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U.S. Begins Reviewing Guantanamo Cases; Kleenex Releases Anti- Viral Tissues; Palestinian PM Ahmed Qorei Resigns

Aired July 19, 2004 - 08:30   ET

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HEIDI COLLINS, CNN ANCHOR: Just about half past the hour now on this "AMERICAN MORNING." Some of the stories making headlines. Prisoners at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, could be entering a whole new legal reality. We'll talk about hearings scheduled for this week with a former Air Force attorney -- see if the rules are changing in the war on terror.
BILL HEMMER, CNN ANCHOR: Also, we mentioned, a week until Boston for the Democrats to convene -- a week from today. Looking down the road in the Democratic party, will there be a rivalry years from now between Hillary Clinton and John Edwards? Bill Schneider breaks down that comparison in a moment.

COLLINS: Also, Sanjay will be with us to give us the facts about what's being hailed as a breakthrough in Kleenex technology.

HEMMER: Interesting.

COLLINS: Kleenex technology.

HEMMER: That's right.

In the meantime, though, want to get to Iraq right now. A morning suicide bombing has rocked southern Baghdad. Iraqi officials say at least nine are dead. Dozens of others injured outside a police station.

On Sunday, a U.S. airstrike targeted militants in Fallujah said to be linked to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi; 14 were dead there. The office of the interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi says he gave approval for that attack in Fallujah.

Also this week, the U.S. military begins reviewing the cases of detainees, 600 of them, being held at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba. This is in response to the Supreme Court ruling that enemy combatants can challenge their detention in court.

Scott Silliman, professor at Duke University Law School in Durham, North Carolina, here to talk about this. Professor, good morning to you.

SCOTT SILLIMAN, PROFESSOR, DUKE UNIVERSITY LAW SCHOOL: Good morning, Bill.

HEMMER: In a very basic sense, what do these hearings consist of? SILLIMAN: Bill, these are administrative hearings. They're not judicial hearings. And a panel of three officers will be meeting with each detainee to decide whether that detainee has been lawfully -- is being lawfully detained or not.

What the military is trying to do is to provide a documentary record so that when these detainees do, in fact, challenge their detention in federal court -- as the Supreme Court three weeks ago ruled that they can do -- then the military will have something to present to that federal judge to minimize the involvement of the federal judiciary in this whole issue.

HEMMER: Is there something, professor, you can compare these hearings to?

SILLIMAN: Well, Bill, these hearings, as best we understand them, are very similar to what's called for under the Geneva Convention -- what's called Article Five.

That when an individual is first captured, then a hearing is held to determine whether they should be a prisoner of war, or whether they are a lawful combatant. Now, that was urged on the military over two years ago, notably by Colin Powell, as secretary of state, and the president decided he didn't want to do that.

These hearings that are about to start at Guantanamo Bay bear a striking resemblance to that.

HEMMER: Who presents the evidence?

SILLIMAN: A military officer does, Bill, and of course the detainee is presented with an unclassified summary of that evidence. But the evidence comes in not only from what's going on at Guantanamo Bay, it can come from other government agencies: the State Department, the CIA. And the detainee has a military officer to assist him, but he's not a lawyer, and there's no confidential relationship.

HEMMER: Well -- a couple of things here. You said two answers prior that these detainees will go before this hearing because the U.S. government is getting ready for an eventual court hearing. Why do it now if no one has challenged their case in court yet?

SILLIMAN: Well, Bill, we can expect that lawyers probably today or sometime this week are going to be filing petitions for habeas corpus in federal courts.

Theoretically they could do it all over the country. It'll probably be consolidated in one district in Washington. The military is trying to get ahead of the game and have these hearings and documentary records of these hearings ready to go when the first court hearing takes place.

HEMMER: Professor, do you expect anyone to walk free as a result of these hearings? SILLIMAN: Well, it's hard to say, Bill. We have been told by the military that it is quite possible that some down there might have been captured by mistake, might not be of intelligence value anymore. So, some may be released, but I wouldn't expect it.

HEMMER: Does this weaken the U.S.'s hand at all in the war on terror?

SILLIMAN: Well, I don't think it weakens it, Bill. It reinforces the fact that the president's power as commander in chief on the war on terrorism is very much subject to the rule of law and court review and that's something that the administration has had to cope with for the last three weeks.

HEMMER: One final question here. It's my understanding there's a consideration, anyway, to allow the media in. Do you anticipate that happening? And if so, what would that mean?

SILLIMAN: Bill, I don't think we're going to see the media allowed for the very first hearings this week. I think the military has got to prepare for that, got to make sure that there are seats and the courtroom is secured against the possible disclosure of classified -- my guess is they'll be a couple of reporters in -- pool reporters -- but that probably won't take place immediately.

HEMMER: All right -- interesting stuff. Thanks for helping clarify a number of matters for us, Professor. Thanks.

Scott Silliman from the Duke University Law School in Durham. Thank you.

SILLIMAN: Thanks, Bill.

HEMMER: All right -- Heidi.

COLLINS: What would a John Kerry victory or defeat mean for other Democrats who may have their eyes on the presidency?

Senior political analyst Bill Schneider takes a look at the top two contenders, Senators John Edwards and Hillary Clinton.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

BILL SCHNEIDER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): John Edwards now becomes the alternative to Hillary Clinton as the future Democratic standard-bearer. After all, they've both been certified for the job.

She by a Democratic president...

BILL CLINTON, FMR. PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Two for the price of one.

SCHNEIDER: And he by a Democratic would-be president.

SEN. JOHN KERRY (D-MA), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: John Edwards is ready for this job. SCHNEIDER: Watch Democrats who are nervous about having Hillary at the top of the ticket begin to gravitate toward Edwards, particularly in the South.

Does Hillary have higher ambitions? She made a pledge to New Yorkers in her senate campaign.

SEN. HILLARY CLINTON (D) NEW YORK: I am going to serve my six- year term as senator. I owe it to the people of New York.

SCHNEIDER: Her term ends in 2006. If Kerry loses this year, the showdown between Edwards and Clinton could come in 2008. As the vice presidential candidate on a losing ticket, however, Edwards' stature may be diminished.

Suppose Kerry gets elected for two terms? Then, Edwards becomes the instant favorite to head the ticket in 2012. Elected vice presidents have a claim on party loyalty and nearly always get their party's nomination: Nixon in 1960, Humphrey in 1968, Mondale in 1984, Bush in 1988, Gore in 2000.

If Kerry wins this year and then loses in 2008, it sets up a wide-open contest in 2012. Hillary's supporters are ready.

They were outraged to hear that she would not have a speaking role at the Democratic Convention in Boston. The former chairwoman of the New York Democratic Party called it, "a slap in the face for every woman in the Democratic Party."

Party leaders did not want a floor demonstration with signs saying "Let Hillary Speak."

TERRY MCAULIFFE, CHMN., DEMOCRATIC NATL. CMTE.: She is going to be on stage on Monday night. She and other senators collectively agreed of -- which woman senator they wanted to speak.

SCHNEIDER (on camera): Listen carefully to what Senator Clinton says next Monday night and what John Edwards says on Wednesday night. You could hear the beginning of the next Democratic debate.

Bill Schneider, CNN, Washington.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

HEMMER: The shape of things to come.

All right. In a moment here, a new way to fight the common cold. Some experts worry it might do more harm than good. We'll page the good doctor, Sanjay, in a moment here on that.

COLLINS: Also ahead, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger may be in hot water this morning for something he said.

Stay with us on AMERICAN MORNING.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) COLLINS: It's always healthy to keep your nose clean, and now there's a new brand of Kleenex looking for some face time.

Dr. Sanjay Gupta joins us now from the CNN Center with more on the anti-viral version -- is that right, Sanjay?

DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's what it is, and it does help you keep your nose clean, as well, Heidi. It's the new anti-viral version of Kleenex. It's certainly going to be a popular product, I think.

Take a look -- here's the product. I've got a box of it here for you to take a look at.

Basically, it's similar to the old kind of Kleenex, except when you take it apart, there's actually a middle layer to this that has a couple of chemicals in there that are actually going to trap and kill viruses, about 99.9% of them.

And that's what Kimberly Clark is getting excited about -- that's the company that makes this particular product -- and it's going to be available in October.

Now, there are a lot of anti-bacterial products out there; this is actually an anti-viral product. No one is claiming that it's going to either shorten or fix your cold or your flu if you have one, but what the focus here is to try and prevent you from spreading it to other people.

Blow your nose; throw the tissue away, your going to kill most of the viruses so that you don't potentially contaminate someone else in your household or anywhere else.

Again, lot of these products have been pretty popular -- the anti-bacterial soaps, we've seen them all over the place. This is probably going to be a pretty popular product, as well. But again, no one is claiming nor should anyone believe that in anyway it's going to either shorten or fix your cold, Heidi.

COLLINS: All right, about those anti-bacterial products, though, that we see so much of -- especially the bottles of the hand sanitizer and everything...

GUPTA: Right.

COLLINS: Do those products really work?

GUPTA: You know, it's interesting. I think that they probably really don't work any better than just soap and water. But here's the thing, though: More people use them because they believe that they're actually getting a benefit from them.

So, you're more likely to use the hand sanitizers, as you can see there, the Softsoap or any of the other products. And they'll probably do the same thing with the Kleenex, as well. The flip side of that, though, is an important one. People have been concerned that by sort of sporadically introducing small amounts of anti-bacterial or anti-viral things into the community, you might increase resistance and that's a concern.

A couple of studies on that actually done really show that there is no superbug increase, those are bugs that are essentially resistant to antibiotics. You really don't see that. But you also don't see any difference in bacterial levels.

The bacteria levels tend to be the same so really soap and water, the anti-bacterial products or just plain old Kleenex are probably going to work the same but the key is you got to use them. Products like this really do get people -- more people using them, Heidi.

COLLINS: OK, now, if we're pretty unsure about the anti-viral, anti-bacterial products and their effectiveness what's to be done to help ourselves? To stay healthy?

GUPTA: Well, I mean, you know, I think it kind of goes back to what your mother probably told you in terms of the age old wisdom, you know, if you're sick you got to usually let these things run their course, the cold or the flu.

Cover it with a tissue when you blow your nose and so many people forget to do that, especially in large newsrooms.

Discard those used tissues. Frequent hand washing. Bill Hemmer and I have talked about this, as well. You've got to wash your hands frequently; it's really important.

You know, every time you go to the bathroom; it's not so much the going to the bathroom you need to wash your hands every time so that you don't spread germs to your co-workers or your family, Heidi.

COLLINS: All right. Still working on that with the three-year- old, I tell you.

GUPTA: Right.

COLLINS: And actually, the husband, too. All right, Sanjay, thanks so much for that, appreciate it.

GUPTA: Thank you.

COLLINS: Still to come this morning, the latest on the uprising in Gaza. We'll tell you why Yasser Arafat's power base may be falling apart.

Stay with us on AMERICAN MORNING.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

HEMMER: Forty-five minutes past the hour, back to Daryn Kagan at the CNN Center looking at the other news this hour.

Daryn, good morning.

DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning to you, Bill.

Let's begin in the Middle East where Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qorei says he is awaiting a written response from Yasser Arafat about his resignation.

Qorei claimed a lack of security and what he says is a state of chaos as the reasons of his move. Palestinians took to the streets over the weekend, protesting Arafat's selection of his nephew as security chief for Gaza and the West Bank. The official Arafat's nephew has replaced now says that he is back in that post.

British officials have launched an investigation into reports that secret police documents were found lying on the side of a road.

According to published reports, the documents show how police plan to prevent possible terrorist attacks at Heathrow Airport. A top British law enforcement official says he believes the documents are genuine.

A former American soldier accused of defecting to North Korea is preparing to undergo medical treatment in Japan. Charles Jenkins and his family arrived in Tokyo over the weekend.

Jenkins faces extradition to the U.S. The Japanese prime minister has reportedly said he's willing to ask the U.S. for special consideration in the case in light of Jenkins health problems.

Less than six weeks before jury selection begins, lawyers are working to hammer out the final details in the Kobe Bryant sexual assault case.

Today's pre-trial hearing will focus on whether lawyers can introduce Bryant's accusers sexual history in court. That portion of the hearing will be held behind closed doors. The judge will also be asked to decide whether cameras should be allowed in the courtroom.

And finally, the claret jug is once again in the hands of an American. Golfer Todd Hamilton beat Ernie Ells in a four-hole playoff yesterday to win the British Open.

That's about as much excitement as you're going to see from Hamilton. He is the fourth U.S. player to win the Open in the last five years. Hamilton and his wife by the way will be guests right here on AMERICAN MORNING tomorrow.

This is the guy who toiled for many years, Bill, as you know, on the Asian tour, took nine tries just to qualify for the PGA tour, so he I think is a little overwhelmed at this point.

HEMMER: Yes. Unbelievable. Great victory for him. Thanks.

We were just talking about it. In fact, you pick up "The New York Times" today; they have a split shot here. This is Todd Hamilton's club back in that small town of Illinois, population about 1,500, and they were going nuts watching this guy play on the other side of the ocean.

COLLINS: We were saying it was like the biggest prize in British Open history.

HEMMER: Lot of cash.

JACK CAFFERTY, CNN ANCHOR: How did Phil Michelson do?

HEMMER: He -- it was...

COLLINS: Third.

HEMMER: Third.

CAFFERTY: Are you going to interview him anyway?

HEMMER: Maybe. You want him?

CAFFERTY: No, no. No, no.

Arnold Schwarzenegger's spokesman says he will not apologize for referring to some Democratic legislators in California as "girlie-men" over the weekend.

He was referring to these legislators who he claimed were delaying the passage of a state budget, claiming that they were "girlie-men" because they were slaves to the special interests.

Critics say that it was a sexist, homophobic remark. The governor's spokesman says it was a forceful way of showing that legislator's are wimps for allowing themselves to be pushed around by the special interests.

Question is: Should he apologize for doing this?

Michael in Edmonton, Alberta: "We live in a ridiculous culture when it comes to apologizing. Of course Arnie shouldn't apologize because they'd still be "girlie-men" anyway. Why don't they just get to work, maybe that would help their wounded self-esteem?"

Maggie in Fairfax, Virginia: "Yes, he should apologize. Unless of course he stands up and tells people that Republicans don't have the guts to represent them because they represent corporations and the wealthy." Hypocrisy at its finest.

Don in Bakersfield, California: "As a Democrat who voted for Arnold, I object to being called a 'girlie-man.' Should I go to Sacramento and punch him out or just vote differently next time?"

And Tom in Falls Church, Virginia: "Jack: You go, girl."

(LAUGHTER)

HEMMER: Yes, nice.

CAFFERTY: So, we have it this time. COLLINS: That was good.

CAFFERTY: Got to thank Arnold for making the Monday after vacation you know kind of hit it right over the middle of the plate.

HEMMER: Ease right on in to it.

CAFFERTY: Slide in, yes. Compensates for the mediocrity of "The Cafferty Files."

(LAUGHTER)

COLLINS: All right, Jack, thanks a lot. Still to come this morning, political candidates will argue they aren't for sale but in one instance this year their names are.

We're "Minding Your Business" this morning. Stay with us right here on AMERICAN MORNING.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

COLLINS: Now for a preview of today's Wall Street action and the latest on the Kerry-Edwards Web site, but not the one that you're probably thinking of, Christine Romans is in for Andy Serwer today. She's "Minding Your Business."

All right, what's the deal here?

CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: What's in a name? OK, there's a guy in Indianapolis, a bail bondsman, 34-year-old, named Kerry Edwards.

And as you know, he has the Web site that he bought several years ago for his little kids to put the pictures of his child up on, and he thinks that maybe somebody would want to buy this.

He calls it one of the hottest pieces of Internet real estate in the political sphere and he says -- well he'd like to see $150,000 for that Web site. He says he's had some offers of up to maybe $30,000 so far but there must be someone out there who wants it, right?

Democratic Party asked him if he wouldn't mind donating it to them and he said no, I think if I can make some money out of this, I'm going to. So far, John Kerry and John Edwards own Web sites are pretty good reflection of the Kerry-Edwards campaigns so they're not going to bite.

COLLINS: Not so far.

ROMANS: And there are a lot of people in this country named Kerry Edwards.

HEMMER: Yes?

ROMANS: I have to tell you. I was kind of surprised. Yes. This guy who's 34; he's one of just many, many people named Kerry Edwards who are all getting a little bit of a hoot out of this ticket.

COLLINS: Interesting. And maybe some cash, too. What about the markets? Not so good for several weeks.

ROMANS: No, several weeks the markets have been moving sideways to lower and you know we've had decent earnings but it's one of those things, as you both know the market sort of predicts what's going to happen. Earnings have been good while the market predicted that all the way to last year.

Some stocks to watch today earnings -- Kraft cut it's target meaning it thinks it's going to make less money than it thought because of higher cheese costs and watch the Tribune Company shares today.

The "Chicago Tribune" this morning saying a computer glitch has delayed its newspapers to many of its customers, a computer glitch in the printing department. It's one of those things you can't live with computers you can't live without them. Relying on the computer and now you take a paper out.

COLLINS: So, watch and see if that moves the stock. All right, interesting.

Christine Romans, thanks so much for that.

And also want to let you know about one programming note.

Tonight on CNN, Martha Stewart joins Larry King for her only live prime-time interview since her sentencing. She'll also be taking your phone calls. You can catch it tonight 9 p.m. on "LARRY KING LIVE"

HEMMER: That is must see TV later tonight, yes. There is only one Chad Meyers, we know that, right? Whether it's his Web site or not.

(WEATHER REPORT)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

HEMMER: In a moment here, last we saw with Kobe Bryant he was signing a big contract with the Lakers. Today, he gets a big reminder of his off the court problems. We'll go live to Eagle, Colorado, in a moment on AMERICAN MORNING.

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Aired July 19, 2004 - 08:30   ET
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HEIDI COLLINS, CNN ANCHOR: Just about half past the hour now on this "AMERICAN MORNING." Some of the stories making headlines. Prisoners at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, could be entering a whole new legal reality. We'll talk about hearings scheduled for this week with a former Air Force attorney -- see if the rules are changing in the war on terror.
BILL HEMMER, CNN ANCHOR: Also, we mentioned, a week until Boston for the Democrats to convene -- a week from today. Looking down the road in the Democratic party, will there be a rivalry years from now between Hillary Clinton and John Edwards? Bill Schneider breaks down that comparison in a moment.

COLLINS: Also, Sanjay will be with us to give us the facts about what's being hailed as a breakthrough in Kleenex technology.

HEMMER: Interesting.

COLLINS: Kleenex technology.

HEMMER: That's right.

In the meantime, though, want to get to Iraq right now. A morning suicide bombing has rocked southern Baghdad. Iraqi officials say at least nine are dead. Dozens of others injured outside a police station.

On Sunday, a U.S. airstrike targeted militants in Fallujah said to be linked to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi; 14 were dead there. The office of the interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi says he gave approval for that attack in Fallujah.

Also this week, the U.S. military begins reviewing the cases of detainees, 600 of them, being held at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba. This is in response to the Supreme Court ruling that enemy combatants can challenge their detention in court.

Scott Silliman, professor at Duke University Law School in Durham, North Carolina, here to talk about this. Professor, good morning to you.

SCOTT SILLIMAN, PROFESSOR, DUKE UNIVERSITY LAW SCHOOL: Good morning, Bill.

HEMMER: In a very basic sense, what do these hearings consist of? SILLIMAN: Bill, these are administrative hearings. They're not judicial hearings. And a panel of three officers will be meeting with each detainee to decide whether that detainee has been lawfully -- is being lawfully detained or not.

What the military is trying to do is to provide a documentary record so that when these detainees do, in fact, challenge their detention in federal court -- as the Supreme Court three weeks ago ruled that they can do -- then the military will have something to present to that federal judge to minimize the involvement of the federal judiciary in this whole issue.

HEMMER: Is there something, professor, you can compare these hearings to?

SILLIMAN: Well, Bill, these hearings, as best we understand them, are very similar to what's called for under the Geneva Convention -- what's called Article Five.

That when an individual is first captured, then a hearing is held to determine whether they should be a prisoner of war, or whether they are a lawful combatant. Now, that was urged on the military over two years ago, notably by Colin Powell, as secretary of state, and the president decided he didn't want to do that.

These hearings that are about to start at Guantanamo Bay bear a striking resemblance to that.

HEMMER: Who presents the evidence?

SILLIMAN: A military officer does, Bill, and of course the detainee is presented with an unclassified summary of that evidence. But the evidence comes in not only from what's going on at Guantanamo Bay, it can come from other government agencies: the State Department, the CIA. And the detainee has a military officer to assist him, but he's not a lawyer, and there's no confidential relationship.

HEMMER: Well -- a couple of things here. You said two answers prior that these detainees will go before this hearing because the U.S. government is getting ready for an eventual court hearing. Why do it now if no one has challenged their case in court yet?

SILLIMAN: Well, Bill, we can expect that lawyers probably today or sometime this week are going to be filing petitions for habeas corpus in federal courts.

Theoretically they could do it all over the country. It'll probably be consolidated in one district in Washington. The military is trying to get ahead of the game and have these hearings and documentary records of these hearings ready to go when the first court hearing takes place.

HEMMER: Professor, do you expect anyone to walk free as a result of these hearings? SILLIMAN: Well, it's hard to say, Bill. We have been told by the military that it is quite possible that some down there might have been captured by mistake, might not be of intelligence value anymore. So, some may be released, but I wouldn't expect it.

HEMMER: Does this weaken the U.S.'s hand at all in the war on terror?

SILLIMAN: Well, I don't think it weakens it, Bill. It reinforces the fact that the president's power as commander in chief on the war on terrorism is very much subject to the rule of law and court review and that's something that the administration has had to cope with for the last three weeks.

HEMMER: One final question here. It's my understanding there's a consideration, anyway, to allow the media in. Do you anticipate that happening? And if so, what would that mean?

SILLIMAN: Bill, I don't think we're going to see the media allowed for the very first hearings this week. I think the military has got to prepare for that, got to make sure that there are seats and the courtroom is secured against the possible disclosure of classified -- my guess is they'll be a couple of reporters in -- pool reporters -- but that probably won't take place immediately.

HEMMER: All right -- interesting stuff. Thanks for helping clarify a number of matters for us, Professor. Thanks.

Scott Silliman from the Duke University Law School in Durham. Thank you.

SILLIMAN: Thanks, Bill.

HEMMER: All right -- Heidi.

COLLINS: What would a John Kerry victory or defeat mean for other Democrats who may have their eyes on the presidency?

Senior political analyst Bill Schneider takes a look at the top two contenders, Senators John Edwards and Hillary Clinton.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

BILL SCHNEIDER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): John Edwards now becomes the alternative to Hillary Clinton as the future Democratic standard-bearer. After all, they've both been certified for the job.

She by a Democratic president...

BILL CLINTON, FMR. PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Two for the price of one.

SCHNEIDER: And he by a Democratic would-be president.

SEN. JOHN KERRY (D-MA), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: John Edwards is ready for this job. SCHNEIDER: Watch Democrats who are nervous about having Hillary at the top of the ticket begin to gravitate toward Edwards, particularly in the South.

Does Hillary have higher ambitions? She made a pledge to New Yorkers in her senate campaign.

SEN. HILLARY CLINTON (D) NEW YORK: I am going to serve my six- year term as senator. I owe it to the people of New York.

SCHNEIDER: Her term ends in 2006. If Kerry loses this year, the showdown between Edwards and Clinton could come in 2008. As the vice presidential candidate on a losing ticket, however, Edwards' stature may be diminished.

Suppose Kerry gets elected for two terms? Then, Edwards becomes the instant favorite to head the ticket in 2012. Elected vice presidents have a claim on party loyalty and nearly always get their party's nomination: Nixon in 1960, Humphrey in 1968, Mondale in 1984, Bush in 1988, Gore in 2000.

If Kerry wins this year and then loses in 2008, it sets up a wide-open contest in 2012. Hillary's supporters are ready.

They were outraged to hear that she would not have a speaking role at the Democratic Convention in Boston. The former chairwoman of the New York Democratic Party called it, "a slap in the face for every woman in the Democratic Party."

Party leaders did not want a floor demonstration with signs saying "Let Hillary Speak."

TERRY MCAULIFFE, CHMN., DEMOCRATIC NATL. CMTE.: She is going to be on stage on Monday night. She and other senators collectively agreed of -- which woman senator they wanted to speak.

SCHNEIDER (on camera): Listen carefully to what Senator Clinton says next Monday night and what John Edwards says on Wednesday night. You could hear the beginning of the next Democratic debate.

Bill Schneider, CNN, Washington.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

HEMMER: The shape of things to come.

All right. In a moment here, a new way to fight the common cold. Some experts worry it might do more harm than good. We'll page the good doctor, Sanjay, in a moment here on that.

COLLINS: Also ahead, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger may be in hot water this morning for something he said.

Stay with us on AMERICAN MORNING.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) COLLINS: It's always healthy to keep your nose clean, and now there's a new brand of Kleenex looking for some face time.

Dr. Sanjay Gupta joins us now from the CNN Center with more on the anti-viral version -- is that right, Sanjay?

DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's what it is, and it does help you keep your nose clean, as well, Heidi. It's the new anti-viral version of Kleenex. It's certainly going to be a popular product, I think.

Take a look -- here's the product. I've got a box of it here for you to take a look at.

Basically, it's similar to the old kind of Kleenex, except when you take it apart, there's actually a middle layer to this that has a couple of chemicals in there that are actually going to trap and kill viruses, about 99.9% of them.

And that's what Kimberly Clark is getting excited about -- that's the company that makes this particular product -- and it's going to be available in October.

Now, there are a lot of anti-bacterial products out there; this is actually an anti-viral product. No one is claiming that it's going to either shorten or fix your cold or your flu if you have one, but what the focus here is to try and prevent you from spreading it to other people.

Blow your nose; throw the tissue away, your going to kill most of the viruses so that you don't potentially contaminate someone else in your household or anywhere else.

Again, lot of these products have been pretty popular -- the anti-bacterial soaps, we've seen them all over the place. This is probably going to be a pretty popular product, as well. But again, no one is claiming nor should anyone believe that in anyway it's going to either shorten or fix your cold, Heidi.

COLLINS: All right, about those anti-bacterial products, though, that we see so much of -- especially the bottles of the hand sanitizer and everything...

GUPTA: Right.

COLLINS: Do those products really work?

GUPTA: You know, it's interesting. I think that they probably really don't work any better than just soap and water. But here's the thing, though: More people use them because they believe that they're actually getting a benefit from them.

So, you're more likely to use the hand sanitizers, as you can see there, the Softsoap or any of the other products. And they'll probably do the same thing with the Kleenex, as well. The flip side of that, though, is an important one. People have been concerned that by sort of sporadically introducing small amounts of anti-bacterial or anti-viral things into the community, you might increase resistance and that's a concern.

A couple of studies on that actually done really show that there is no superbug increase, those are bugs that are essentially resistant to antibiotics. You really don't see that. But you also don't see any difference in bacterial levels.

The bacteria levels tend to be the same so really soap and water, the anti-bacterial products or just plain old Kleenex are probably going to work the same but the key is you got to use them. Products like this really do get people -- more people using them, Heidi.

COLLINS: OK, now, if we're pretty unsure about the anti-viral, anti-bacterial products and their effectiveness what's to be done to help ourselves? To stay healthy?

GUPTA: Well, I mean, you know, I think it kind of goes back to what your mother probably told you in terms of the age old wisdom, you know, if you're sick you got to usually let these things run their course, the cold or the flu.

Cover it with a tissue when you blow your nose and so many people forget to do that, especially in large newsrooms.

Discard those used tissues. Frequent hand washing. Bill Hemmer and I have talked about this, as well. You've got to wash your hands frequently; it's really important.

You know, every time you go to the bathroom; it's not so much the going to the bathroom you need to wash your hands every time so that you don't spread germs to your co-workers or your family, Heidi.

COLLINS: All right. Still working on that with the three-year- old, I tell you.

GUPTA: Right.

COLLINS: And actually, the husband, too. All right, Sanjay, thanks so much for that, appreciate it.

GUPTA: Thank you.

COLLINS: Still to come this morning, the latest on the uprising in Gaza. We'll tell you why Yasser Arafat's power base may be falling apart.

Stay with us on AMERICAN MORNING.

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HEMMER: Forty-five minutes past the hour, back to Daryn Kagan at the CNN Center looking at the other news this hour.

Daryn, good morning.

DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning to you, Bill.

Let's begin in the Middle East where Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qorei says he is awaiting a written response from Yasser Arafat about his resignation.

Qorei claimed a lack of security and what he says is a state of chaos as the reasons of his move. Palestinians took to the streets over the weekend, protesting Arafat's selection of his nephew as security chief for Gaza and the West Bank. The official Arafat's nephew has replaced now says that he is back in that post.

British officials have launched an investigation into reports that secret police documents were found lying on the side of a road.

According to published reports, the documents show how police plan to prevent possible terrorist attacks at Heathrow Airport. A top British law enforcement official says he believes the documents are genuine.

A former American soldier accused of defecting to North Korea is preparing to undergo medical treatment in Japan. Charles Jenkins and his family arrived in Tokyo over the weekend.

Jenkins faces extradition to the U.S. The Japanese prime minister has reportedly said he's willing to ask the U.S. for special consideration in the case in light of Jenkins health problems.

Less than six weeks before jury selection begins, lawyers are working to hammer out the final details in the Kobe Bryant sexual assault case.

Today's pre-trial hearing will focus on whether lawyers can introduce Bryant's accusers sexual history in court. That portion of the hearing will be held behind closed doors. The judge will also be asked to decide whether cameras should be allowed in the courtroom.

And finally, the claret jug is once again in the hands of an American. Golfer Todd Hamilton beat Ernie Ells in a four-hole playoff yesterday to win the British Open.

That's about as much excitement as you're going to see from Hamilton. He is the fourth U.S. player to win the Open in the last five years. Hamilton and his wife by the way will be guests right here on AMERICAN MORNING tomorrow.

This is the guy who toiled for many years, Bill, as you know, on the Asian tour, took nine tries just to qualify for the PGA tour, so he I think is a little overwhelmed at this point.

HEMMER: Yes. Unbelievable. Great victory for him. Thanks.

We were just talking about it. In fact, you pick up "The New York Times" today; they have a split shot here. This is Todd Hamilton's club back in that small town of Illinois, population about 1,500, and they were going nuts watching this guy play on the other side of the ocean.

COLLINS: We were saying it was like the biggest prize in British Open history.

HEMMER: Lot of cash.

JACK CAFFERTY, CNN ANCHOR: How did Phil Michelson do?

HEMMER: He -- it was...

COLLINS: Third.

HEMMER: Third.

CAFFERTY: Are you going to interview him anyway?

HEMMER: Maybe. You want him?

CAFFERTY: No, no. No, no.

Arnold Schwarzenegger's spokesman says he will not apologize for referring to some Democratic legislators in California as "girlie-men" over the weekend.

He was referring to these legislators who he claimed were delaying the passage of a state budget, claiming that they were "girlie-men" because they were slaves to the special interests.

Critics say that it was a sexist, homophobic remark. The governor's spokesman says it was a forceful way of showing that legislator's are wimps for allowing themselves to be pushed around by the special interests.

Question is: Should he apologize for doing this?

Michael in Edmonton, Alberta: "We live in a ridiculous culture when it comes to apologizing. Of course Arnie shouldn't apologize because they'd still be "girlie-men" anyway. Why don't they just get to work, maybe that would help their wounded self-esteem?"

Maggie in Fairfax, Virginia: "Yes, he should apologize. Unless of course he stands up and tells people that Republicans don't have the guts to represent them because they represent corporations and the wealthy." Hypocrisy at its finest.

Don in Bakersfield, California: "As a Democrat who voted for Arnold, I object to being called a 'girlie-man.' Should I go to Sacramento and punch him out or just vote differently next time?"

And Tom in Falls Church, Virginia: "Jack: You go, girl."

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HEMMER: Yes, nice.

CAFFERTY: So, we have it this time. COLLINS: That was good.

CAFFERTY: Got to thank Arnold for making the Monday after vacation you know kind of hit it right over the middle of the plate.

HEMMER: Ease right on in to it.

CAFFERTY: Slide in, yes. Compensates for the mediocrity of "The Cafferty Files."

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COLLINS: All right, Jack, thanks a lot. Still to come this morning, political candidates will argue they aren't for sale but in one instance this year their names are.

We're "Minding Your Business" this morning. Stay with us right here on AMERICAN MORNING.

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COLLINS: Now for a preview of today's Wall Street action and the latest on the Kerry-Edwards Web site, but not the one that you're probably thinking of, Christine Romans is in for Andy Serwer today. She's "Minding Your Business."

All right, what's the deal here?

CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: What's in a name? OK, there's a guy in Indianapolis, a bail bondsman, 34-year-old, named Kerry Edwards.

And as you know, he has the Web site that he bought several years ago for his little kids to put the pictures of his child up on, and he thinks that maybe somebody would want to buy this.

He calls it one of the hottest pieces of Internet real estate in the political sphere and he says -- well he'd like to see $150,000 for that Web site. He says he's had some offers of up to maybe $30,000 so far but there must be someone out there who wants it, right?

Democratic Party asked him if he wouldn't mind donating it to them and he said no, I think if I can make some money out of this, I'm going to. So far, John Kerry and John Edwards own Web sites are pretty good reflection of the Kerry-Edwards campaigns so they're not going to bite.

COLLINS: Not so far.

ROMANS: And there are a lot of people in this country named Kerry Edwards.

HEMMER: Yes?

ROMANS: I have to tell you. I was kind of surprised. Yes. This guy who's 34; he's one of just many, many people named Kerry Edwards who are all getting a little bit of a hoot out of this ticket.

COLLINS: Interesting. And maybe some cash, too. What about the markets? Not so good for several weeks.

ROMANS: No, several weeks the markets have been moving sideways to lower and you know we've had decent earnings but it's one of those things, as you both know the market sort of predicts what's going to happen. Earnings have been good while the market predicted that all the way to last year.

Some stocks to watch today earnings -- Kraft cut it's target meaning it thinks it's going to make less money than it thought because of higher cheese costs and watch the Tribune Company shares today.

The "Chicago Tribune" this morning saying a computer glitch has delayed its newspapers to many of its customers, a computer glitch in the printing department. It's one of those things you can't live with computers you can't live without them. Relying on the computer and now you take a paper out.

COLLINS: So, watch and see if that moves the stock. All right, interesting.

Christine Romans, thanks so much for that.

And also want to let you know about one programming note.

Tonight on CNN, Martha Stewart joins Larry King for her only live prime-time interview since her sentencing. She'll also be taking your phone calls. You can catch it tonight 9 p.m. on "LARRY KING LIVE"

HEMMER: That is must see TV later tonight, yes. There is only one Chad Meyers, we know that, right? Whether it's his Web site or not.

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HEMMER: In a moment here, last we saw with Kobe Bryant he was signing a big contract with the Lakers. Today, he gets a big reminder of his off the court problems. We'll go live to Eagle, Colorado, in a moment on AMERICAN MORNING.

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