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Shoot-Down Rules; 'CSI' Fact and Fiction

Aired May 12, 2005 - 09:31   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

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SOLEDAD O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome back, everybody. Just about half past the hour on this AMERICAN MORNING.
Coming up, what happened in those extremely tense moments on Wednesday as F-16 pilots tried to get a Cessna to fly out of restricted airspace over Washington D.C.

BILL HEMMER, CNN ANCHOR: Kyra Phillips has flown with those very pilots of those F-16s. She spoke with them last night about what happened yesterday afternoon, and Kyra's going to stop by in a few moments to tell us what she found out from them. They were in the cockpit.

O'BRIEN: Yes, looking forward to that.

First, let's get another check of the headlines with Carol Costello. Good morning again.

CAROL COSTELLO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning. Good morning to all of you.

At least a dozen people killed in new attacks in eastern Baghdad this morning. Iraqi police say a car bomb exploded in a crowded marketplace. Earlier today another bomb struck a few hours later, possibly targeting a U.S. military convoy in the area. No word on American casualties.

Lawmakers taking a closer look at President Bush's plans to reform Social Security. The House Ways and Means Committee set to meet in the next half hour. Politicians are considering the private investment accounts favored by the president and ways to improve long- term care for retirees.

Immigrant groups are attacking new driver's license rules meant to prevent terrorism, calling it an anti-immigrant bill. The measure, known as the Real I.D. Act, was part of the war-spending bill signed Wednesday by President Bush, makes it impossible for people who are not in the United States to get a driver's license legally. Supporters of the bill say it's vital to keep terrorist from hiding in plain sight.

An investigation now under way after a dramatic police chase in Southern California. Look at this. There's the car they're chasing. This chase lasted 20 minutes, and reached speeds of up to 100 miles per hour. And along the way, that car ran into several people. It ended in a hail of police gunfire. You will see the car crash here. OK, this is when the guy gets out. He cashed earlier, then started driving again. You see him stop, get out of the car, try to get away, and that's when police shoot him. In the end, this suspect eventually died, as I said. An investigation now under way in Southern California.

And spring is on hold in parts of the West. Up to four inches of snow mixed with rain fell in northwest Utah. State crews were called in to pump out floodwaters. The snow was welcome at Snowbird Ski Resort. Skiing in May. Lift are firing up this morning to take advantage of more than a foot of powder, and hail, not snow, fell in northeastern Colorado. It's expected to turn to rain today.

(WEATHER REPORT)

HEMMER: Our CNN Security Watch continues now. We are looking at the response of a small plane flying over Washington space yesterday. F-16s scrambled on Wednesday to intercept that plane. They were armed at the time to shoot down if necessary. CNN's Kyra Phillips knows the pilots on board those F-16s. In fact, she's flown with them.

You talked to them last night, Kyra. How was that conversation?

KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: I did. I talked to them last night, Bill, and I also got a chance to talk to them again this morning. As a matter of fact, we're going to have one of them on camera in the 1:00 p.m. hour. It's something you'll only see here on CNN. But basically what they told me, that intercept happened way before we even saw it, before the public knew, before the media knew. And they said it was pretty much standard operating procedure, that they did all the warnings, all the visual signals.

But here's what's interesting, the pilot was telling me, after he dropped the flares -- that's pretty much the final sign before you might have to shoot an aircraft down, and -- but he knew, because of all the intel he received from NORAD and from CONAR, at Tindle Air Force Base --- these two entities work together, all under NORAD, that this aircraft, and this pilot and passenger did not fit an attack profile. So he was giving this pilot every single opportunity to divert away from the White House.

And how it finally happened was by radio communication, Bill. He got him on the guard frequency, the emergency frequency, and he said the pilot was extremely nervous, was very confused. But once they made that radio contact, he was able to divert him away from the White House.

HEMMER: But how do they -- or how did they determine this guy was not harmful? How did they know this plane was not loaded with something on board? How do they know it was not a terrorist?

PHILLIPS: Well, first of all, they knew this pilot's name, they knew everything about the aircraft, they know everything about the passenger, and when I say they...

HEMMER: How did they get that information?

PHILLIPS: Well, a lot of that is confidential, Bill, but I did have a chance to go inside the training. I was able to go inside NORAD and watch the levels of intelligence from the FAA to the FBI to the Marines to the Air Force. It's incredible, Bill, how information and intelligence on the aircraft and on the individuals inside circulates so quickly. As a matter of fact, we're going to let you have an inside look on how it goes down from the piece that I did not too long ago. Here you go.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Aircraft diverted.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Secret Service has been informed.

PHILLIPS (voice-over): They call it the air war against terrorists. And this is the battlefield. The potential enemy -- a civilian aircraft under terrorist control. The strategy -- to end every incident without firing a shot.

But 9/11 spawned a new kind of war. with chilling new rules of engagement. In this war, the military is forced to think the unthinkable.

LT. COL. T.G. KYRAZIS, 125TH FIGHTER WING, USAF: I don't think the public would have stood for anything -- us firing on commercial airliners in the past, but it's been proven that, yes, something worse might happen. Might happen, so we are just kind of an extension of the public will.

PHILLIPS: Lieutenant Colonel T.G. Kyrazis and Major John Black of the 125th Fighter Wing are getting ready for a routine patrol in southeast U.S. airspace. These Florida Air National Guard F-15 fighter pilots are battle ready.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Back into the gun. Make sure it's all hot, and the bullets are loaded into the chambers. Heat seeker, make sure that all looks good.

PHILLIPS: We're going along on a mission that shows what might happen if a commercial airliner is hijacked.

It doesn't take long before this mission is diverted.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can you give me a mode three on that?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 0-1-2, Jimmy.

PHILLIPS: Something is not right with a passenger plane over the Atlantic Ocean.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is CONAR battle commander. We have a NORDO airliner.

PHILLIPS: NORDO -- no radio contact.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Your NORDO aircraft is Falcon Airlines 401, Miami to Wilmington. It's a metroliner. PHILLIPS: Military intelligence and the FAA want to know everything about this airliner.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Get the range, how far that thing can fly on 3,400 pounds of gas.

PHILLIPS: Could this aircraft reach critical infrastructure. These commanders take no chances.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have committed Rattler 01 flight two out of the Jaguar (ph).

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Your mission, intercept shadow, commit bullseye 100, 158, 21,500 checklist.

PHILLIPS: Fighters monitor Falcon flight 401's every move. Then...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The aircraft is now squawking at 7,500 squawks.

PHILLIPS: Seventy-five hundred is the code for hijack.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: See if they can't give us an indication of who is in control of the aircraft.

PHILLIPS: Pilots attempt hand signals. No response. Pilots rock their wings. Still no response.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Should acknowledge with a wing rock, which it's not doing.

PHILLIPS: Two generals are brought in and briefed, one from the Canadian Air Force, one from the United States.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Souls on board?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sixteen. 14 passengers, two crew. One Pakistani, one Saudi, one French. The others are presumed to be of United States descent. Fighters are on it now.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My concern is we could have something else in this country, so we've to keep our focus on this thing, but we've also got to keep focus on the rest of the country.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The JPAC has authorized the use of flares to get the pilot's attention.

PHILLIPS: Now is the final attempt to get this pilot to respond. If he doesn't, the order could come to shoot this aircraft down.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do we have an engagement authority?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, sir, we have an engagement authority online.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Rattler, these flares are authorized.

PHILLIPS: Flares are released.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Now the guy realizes he's serious. Now he's coming left, following Eagle.

PHILLIPS: The pilot finally responds.

I don't think we should ever relax, and we are going to have to continue to prosecute this enemy until they no longer present a threat.

PHILLIPS: A new kind of war, a new way of fighting, a battle in which a commander's best choice may be the lesser of two evils. And the battle cry is, never again.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

PHILLIPS: And once again, we want to remind you, 1:00 Eastern Time, you're going to hear from one of the F-16 pilots who made that intercept. You'll see it only here on CNN, 1:00 p.m. Eastern Time on "LIVE FROM."

And, Bill, just real quickly about -- you asked with regard to the plane getting close to the White House. It didn't fit the attack profile. Two things to add. That plane was not descending to a lower altitude. It was not going fast. It was not headed right into the White House. These were two main indicators that the pilot and NORAD looked at, realizing that indeed this pilot wasn't a threat.

HEMMER: Got it. Thanks, Kyra.

PHILLIPS: You bet.

HEMMER: We'll watch it at 1:00, OK.

PHILLIPS: All right.

HEMMER: All right, back in a moment here, after this.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

HEMMER: When is the work of real crime-scene investigators end and the fictional world of "CSI" begin? Good question. Our series continues now with Dr. Sanjay Gupta.

Nice to have you here, doctor. Good morning.

DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Good morning.

We really wanted to sort of get at this, the fiction verse reality, the sort of constant dance between Hollywood and real life when it comes to homicides and crime scene investigations. So we followed both. That's what we're going to show you in this special one-hour. But today, here's the Hollywood version.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

GUPTA (voice-over): Each week, another murder, another investigation. The bodies are brought here, to the "CSI: Miami" autopsy theater, where all the equipment is state of the art, stuff you'd would be hard-pressed to find, even in a well-equipped hospital.

Candy Alexander plays medical examiner Alex Woods on "CSI: Miami."

CANDY ALEXANDER, ACTRESS: This is the real autopsy table this is where the organs go. Up here is where students will come and watch. And here, of course, you know, where we keep our dead bodies. All this stuff is real in here.

GUPTA (on camera): The special effects were just incredible for you, even, when you're standing here. What's that like?

ALEXANDER: It's really wonderful, because all of the organs are made out of silicone. So there's that exact texture and weight of a real organ. So when you're cutting with the scalpel or when you're removing brain or matter, it feels real. So as an actor, that just lends to your performance. I love the blood.

GUPTA: We got that on tape? She loves the blood.

ALEXANDER: I love the blood. That's my favorite.

GUPTA (voice-over): Liz Devine is the supervising producer. Before going Hollywood, she spent 15 years as a criminalist with the L.A. County Sheriff's Department.

(on camera): Your role is to make sure everybody gets it right. But are you sort of -- you know, do you give leniency? Do you say, that's OK, you can do it like this, because it makes better television.

ELIZABETH DEVINE, "CSI: MIAMI" SUPERVISING PROD.: In DNA, everybody has masks on, gloves on, lab coats. We forego the masks when we have our characters in here, because it realistically is very difficult to understand what someone is saying if you can't see their lips. And, frankly, you know, people want to see Emily Frokker's (ph) face.

GUPTA: Devine works closely with an old friend, John Haynes, a former L.A. police detective, who is the model for Horatio Kane, David Caruso's character. Hayne's police career ended after a bomb blew up in his hands. They drew on his bomb squad days for the episode "Freaks and Tweaks."

DEVINE: This is based on a case that John and I actually worked, where we were at a crime scene, and we were actually searching a vehicle, and found a bomb and literally had to evacuate, and so we decided to make that the beginning of an episode. Have a murder in a methamphetamine lab. And anywhere you have methamphetamines, you have chemicals. Any place you have volatile chemicals, obviously, you can have an explosion or fire. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Run. Everybody run!

GUPTA: For Liz Devine and John Haynes, brainstorming and mining memories together is proving to be a good second act.

(on camera): Did you ever think you would be doing this sort of work here?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Never. Never. Not in a million years.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

GUPTA: Well, I'll tell you, as well, they say they miss the real stuff. And Hollywood is not all glitz and glamour, but I'll tell you, Bill, I don't see them going back anytime soon. They're having a lot of fun with the show.

HEMMER: And somehow they tie it altogether in the last 30 seconds.

(CROSSTALK)

GUPTA: That's right, they solve the entire crime.

HEMMER: What's coming up tomorrow?

GUPTA: Tomorrow we're going to show you the other side. This was the Hollywood version, but the most important part of this special is to show people what really happens in a crime-scene investigation. So a real crime-scene investigation will follow it. We'll see part of that tomorrow.

HEMMER: All right, looking forward to Sunday night, too. "ANATOMY OF MURDER," Sanjay's primetime special. You can see it right here on CNN, Sunday evening right there on the screen, 10:00 Eastern, 7:00 on the West Coast.

In a moment here, a scandal-plagued carmaker has come up with a new way to spark interest in a struggling brand. Andy has that, "Minding Your Business," when we return.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

O'BRIEN: Welcome back, everybody. Energy news now. The White House is calling for a big cut in crude oil prices. Don't look at me, Jack. And a Japanese automaker is turning electric. Those stories, plus a check of the market this morning. Andy is "Minding Your Business."

ANDY SERWER, "FORTUNE" COLUMNIST: The end of the week is almost here.

O'BRIEN: I know. Having a little tough time getting certain words out.

SERWER: Yes, I know the feeling. Let's talk about the markets, first of all, Soledad. See, I'm having trouble, too, here. Dow was trading down when I checked last point -- and last moment, and it still is. It's down 14 points, even though retail sales up 1.4 percent in April, twice as good as expected. And best rise since September.

Wal-Mart posting some disappointing numbers. Slightly disappointing. That stock is down a bit. Target doing OK. Now, the White House top economic adviser, a gentleman named Allan Hubbard, has said that the White House wants $25 a barrel crude oil. Well, don't we all. The price of crude oil is $50 a barrel. Here's some other things we want: world peace Christmas in July and cocktails on the AMERICAN MORNING set.

HEMMER: Yeah!

SERWER: I'll have a mimosa.

Actually, it's not that crazy. I mean, the price of oil was $25 a barrel, we forget, in 2003. But the chances of it going there any time soon, I think, are remote.

JACK CAFFERTY, CNN ANCHOR: What is the purpose of making a statement like that?

SERWER: I don't understand it. I'm sure he's taking a lot of grief for that. Just don't say things like that anymore, that maroon.

OK, and let's finally talk about Mitsubishi. Here we go again. Another automaker trying an electric car. Why do they keep doing this? It is not a value proposition. Here it is, the tiny electric car from Mitsubishi, set to roll out in 2010. Gee, we're holding our breath for this thing.

O'BRIEN: Why is it not a value proposition?

SERWER: Check this out -- well, because they get about 80 miles on -- a range of about 80 miles or so, and they cost about the same as a regular car. And why would you get one?

HEMMER: You got to drive somewhere that has an outlet, right?

SERWER: Right. Or your garage has one. The one thing with -- that pictures show -- listen to this, a rear wheel motor. The motor is in the rear -- check that out. It's the old lithium ion battery trick. And Mitsubishi trying things because they were scandal- plagued. They've been hiding auto defects from regulators over the past couple of years.

CAFFERTY: This (INAUDIBLE) don't get it.

SERWER: No.

CAFFERTY: This will not solve their problems.

(CROSSTALK) SERWER: Hybrid cars, OK. You know, these things...

CAFFERTY: Plus, I mean, the batteries wear out, and then you have these dead batteries that you have to dispose of.

SERWER: Put them right on the front yard, with the lawn ornaments.

HEMMER: What's happening? One final batch.

CAFFERTY: John Bolton. They may vote today in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee whether to confirm this guy as the next ambassador to the U.N. We want to know if you think he's the man for the job.

Sarah in Florida: "Go right ahead with Bolton. That would almost complete the picture of ourselves that we've worked so hard to create these past five years in the world community."

Jerry in Georgia writes: "John Bolton's insensitive to the needs of others, totally lacking in compassion, diplomacy and team-building. He's incapable of creating consensus, he has no demonstrable leadership skills. John Bolton is absolutely the perfect choice to represent the Bush administration at the U.N."

And Frank in South Carolina: "Jack, of course someone like you would not see anything wrong with John Bolton. So he's a little grumpy and condescending, right? You're kind of guy. You're both just all-around nice fellows. You two should maybe get together and go heckle a new season of the 'The Muppet Show.'"

SERWER: Heckle a new season of "The Muppet Show"?

O'BRIEN: Oh, a low blow.

SERWER: Where did that come from? Hey, being frank.

HEMMER: Yeah, in South Carolina. Negative vote today, in D.C.

Coming up next hour, "CNN LIVE TODAY," tips from the new bestseller on looking younger and feeling healthier. Daryn has that. Tomorrow on AMERICAN MORNING, part two of our "Prom Night Pressure" series. Kelly Wallace has that. We're back in a moment, after this.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

O'BRIEN: Let's wrap this up. We're out of time this morning. Daryn Kagan's at the CNN Center, going to take us through the next few hours on "CNN LIVE TODAY." Good morning, Daryn.

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Aired May 12, 2005 - 09:31   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
SOLEDAD O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome back, everybody. Just about half past the hour on this AMERICAN MORNING.
Coming up, what happened in those extremely tense moments on Wednesday as F-16 pilots tried to get a Cessna to fly out of restricted airspace over Washington D.C.

BILL HEMMER, CNN ANCHOR: Kyra Phillips has flown with those very pilots of those F-16s. She spoke with them last night about what happened yesterday afternoon, and Kyra's going to stop by in a few moments to tell us what she found out from them. They were in the cockpit.

O'BRIEN: Yes, looking forward to that.

First, let's get another check of the headlines with Carol Costello. Good morning again.

CAROL COSTELLO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning. Good morning to all of you.

At least a dozen people killed in new attacks in eastern Baghdad this morning. Iraqi police say a car bomb exploded in a crowded marketplace. Earlier today another bomb struck a few hours later, possibly targeting a U.S. military convoy in the area. No word on American casualties.

Lawmakers taking a closer look at President Bush's plans to reform Social Security. The House Ways and Means Committee set to meet in the next half hour. Politicians are considering the private investment accounts favored by the president and ways to improve long- term care for retirees.

Immigrant groups are attacking new driver's license rules meant to prevent terrorism, calling it an anti-immigrant bill. The measure, known as the Real I.D. Act, was part of the war-spending bill signed Wednesday by President Bush, makes it impossible for people who are not in the United States to get a driver's license legally. Supporters of the bill say it's vital to keep terrorist from hiding in plain sight.

An investigation now under way after a dramatic police chase in Southern California. Look at this. There's the car they're chasing. This chase lasted 20 minutes, and reached speeds of up to 100 miles per hour. And along the way, that car ran into several people. It ended in a hail of police gunfire. You will see the car crash here. OK, this is when the guy gets out. He cashed earlier, then started driving again. You see him stop, get out of the car, try to get away, and that's when police shoot him. In the end, this suspect eventually died, as I said. An investigation now under way in Southern California.

And spring is on hold in parts of the West. Up to four inches of snow mixed with rain fell in northwest Utah. State crews were called in to pump out floodwaters. The snow was welcome at Snowbird Ski Resort. Skiing in May. Lift are firing up this morning to take advantage of more than a foot of powder, and hail, not snow, fell in northeastern Colorado. It's expected to turn to rain today.

(WEATHER REPORT)

HEMMER: Our CNN Security Watch continues now. We are looking at the response of a small plane flying over Washington space yesterday. F-16s scrambled on Wednesday to intercept that plane. They were armed at the time to shoot down if necessary. CNN's Kyra Phillips knows the pilots on board those F-16s. In fact, she's flown with them.

You talked to them last night, Kyra. How was that conversation?

KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: I did. I talked to them last night, Bill, and I also got a chance to talk to them again this morning. As a matter of fact, we're going to have one of them on camera in the 1:00 p.m. hour. It's something you'll only see here on CNN. But basically what they told me, that intercept happened way before we even saw it, before the public knew, before the media knew. And they said it was pretty much standard operating procedure, that they did all the warnings, all the visual signals.

But here's what's interesting, the pilot was telling me, after he dropped the flares -- that's pretty much the final sign before you might have to shoot an aircraft down, and -- but he knew, because of all the intel he received from NORAD and from CONAR, at Tindle Air Force Base --- these two entities work together, all under NORAD, that this aircraft, and this pilot and passenger did not fit an attack profile. So he was giving this pilot every single opportunity to divert away from the White House.

And how it finally happened was by radio communication, Bill. He got him on the guard frequency, the emergency frequency, and he said the pilot was extremely nervous, was very confused. But once they made that radio contact, he was able to divert him away from the White House.

HEMMER: But how do they -- or how did they determine this guy was not harmful? How did they know this plane was not loaded with something on board? How do they know it was not a terrorist?

PHILLIPS: Well, first of all, they knew this pilot's name, they knew everything about the aircraft, they know everything about the passenger, and when I say they...

HEMMER: How did they get that information?

PHILLIPS: Well, a lot of that is confidential, Bill, but I did have a chance to go inside the training. I was able to go inside NORAD and watch the levels of intelligence from the FAA to the FBI to the Marines to the Air Force. It's incredible, Bill, how information and intelligence on the aircraft and on the individuals inside circulates so quickly. As a matter of fact, we're going to let you have an inside look on how it goes down from the piece that I did not too long ago. Here you go.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Aircraft diverted.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Secret Service has been informed.

PHILLIPS (voice-over): They call it the air war against terrorists. And this is the battlefield. The potential enemy -- a civilian aircraft under terrorist control. The strategy -- to end every incident without firing a shot.

But 9/11 spawned a new kind of war. with chilling new rules of engagement. In this war, the military is forced to think the unthinkable.

LT. COL. T.G. KYRAZIS, 125TH FIGHTER WING, USAF: I don't think the public would have stood for anything -- us firing on commercial airliners in the past, but it's been proven that, yes, something worse might happen. Might happen, so we are just kind of an extension of the public will.

PHILLIPS: Lieutenant Colonel T.G. Kyrazis and Major John Black of the 125th Fighter Wing are getting ready for a routine patrol in southeast U.S. airspace. These Florida Air National Guard F-15 fighter pilots are battle ready.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Back into the gun. Make sure it's all hot, and the bullets are loaded into the chambers. Heat seeker, make sure that all looks good.

PHILLIPS: We're going along on a mission that shows what might happen if a commercial airliner is hijacked.

It doesn't take long before this mission is diverted.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can you give me a mode three on that?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 0-1-2, Jimmy.

PHILLIPS: Something is not right with a passenger plane over the Atlantic Ocean.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is CONAR battle commander. We have a NORDO airliner.

PHILLIPS: NORDO -- no radio contact.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Your NORDO aircraft is Falcon Airlines 401, Miami to Wilmington. It's a metroliner. PHILLIPS: Military intelligence and the FAA want to know everything about this airliner.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Get the range, how far that thing can fly on 3,400 pounds of gas.

PHILLIPS: Could this aircraft reach critical infrastructure. These commanders take no chances.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have committed Rattler 01 flight two out of the Jaguar (ph).

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Your mission, intercept shadow, commit bullseye 100, 158, 21,500 checklist.

PHILLIPS: Fighters monitor Falcon flight 401's every move. Then...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The aircraft is now squawking at 7,500 squawks.

PHILLIPS: Seventy-five hundred is the code for hijack.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: See if they can't give us an indication of who is in control of the aircraft.

PHILLIPS: Pilots attempt hand signals. No response. Pilots rock their wings. Still no response.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Should acknowledge with a wing rock, which it's not doing.

PHILLIPS: Two generals are brought in and briefed, one from the Canadian Air Force, one from the United States.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Souls on board?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sixteen. 14 passengers, two crew. One Pakistani, one Saudi, one French. The others are presumed to be of United States descent. Fighters are on it now.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My concern is we could have something else in this country, so we've to keep our focus on this thing, but we've also got to keep focus on the rest of the country.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The JPAC has authorized the use of flares to get the pilot's attention.

PHILLIPS: Now is the final attempt to get this pilot to respond. If he doesn't, the order could come to shoot this aircraft down.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do we have an engagement authority?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, sir, we have an engagement authority online.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Rattler, these flares are authorized.

PHILLIPS: Flares are released.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Now the guy realizes he's serious. Now he's coming left, following Eagle.

PHILLIPS: The pilot finally responds.

I don't think we should ever relax, and we are going to have to continue to prosecute this enemy until they no longer present a threat.

PHILLIPS: A new kind of war, a new way of fighting, a battle in which a commander's best choice may be the lesser of two evils. And the battle cry is, never again.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

PHILLIPS: And once again, we want to remind you, 1:00 Eastern Time, you're going to hear from one of the F-16 pilots who made that intercept. You'll see it only here on CNN, 1:00 p.m. Eastern Time on "LIVE FROM."

And, Bill, just real quickly about -- you asked with regard to the plane getting close to the White House. It didn't fit the attack profile. Two things to add. That plane was not descending to a lower altitude. It was not going fast. It was not headed right into the White House. These were two main indicators that the pilot and NORAD looked at, realizing that indeed this pilot wasn't a threat.

HEMMER: Got it. Thanks, Kyra.

PHILLIPS: You bet.

HEMMER: We'll watch it at 1:00, OK.

PHILLIPS: All right.

HEMMER: All right, back in a moment here, after this.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

HEMMER: When is the work of real crime-scene investigators end and the fictional world of "CSI" begin? Good question. Our series continues now with Dr. Sanjay Gupta.

Nice to have you here, doctor. Good morning.

DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Good morning.

We really wanted to sort of get at this, the fiction verse reality, the sort of constant dance between Hollywood and real life when it comes to homicides and crime scene investigations. So we followed both. That's what we're going to show you in this special one-hour. But today, here's the Hollywood version.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

GUPTA (voice-over): Each week, another murder, another investigation. The bodies are brought here, to the "CSI: Miami" autopsy theater, where all the equipment is state of the art, stuff you'd would be hard-pressed to find, even in a well-equipped hospital.

Candy Alexander plays medical examiner Alex Woods on "CSI: Miami."

CANDY ALEXANDER, ACTRESS: This is the real autopsy table this is where the organs go. Up here is where students will come and watch. And here, of course, you know, where we keep our dead bodies. All this stuff is real in here.

GUPTA (on camera): The special effects were just incredible for you, even, when you're standing here. What's that like?

ALEXANDER: It's really wonderful, because all of the organs are made out of silicone. So there's that exact texture and weight of a real organ. So when you're cutting with the scalpel or when you're removing brain or matter, it feels real. So as an actor, that just lends to your performance. I love the blood.

GUPTA: We got that on tape? She loves the blood.

ALEXANDER: I love the blood. That's my favorite.

GUPTA (voice-over): Liz Devine is the supervising producer. Before going Hollywood, she spent 15 years as a criminalist with the L.A. County Sheriff's Department.

(on camera): Your role is to make sure everybody gets it right. But are you sort of -- you know, do you give leniency? Do you say, that's OK, you can do it like this, because it makes better television.

ELIZABETH DEVINE, "CSI: MIAMI" SUPERVISING PROD.: In DNA, everybody has masks on, gloves on, lab coats. We forego the masks when we have our characters in here, because it realistically is very difficult to understand what someone is saying if you can't see their lips. And, frankly, you know, people want to see Emily Frokker's (ph) face.

GUPTA: Devine works closely with an old friend, John Haynes, a former L.A. police detective, who is the model for Horatio Kane, David Caruso's character. Hayne's police career ended after a bomb blew up in his hands. They drew on his bomb squad days for the episode "Freaks and Tweaks."

DEVINE: This is based on a case that John and I actually worked, where we were at a crime scene, and we were actually searching a vehicle, and found a bomb and literally had to evacuate, and so we decided to make that the beginning of an episode. Have a murder in a methamphetamine lab. And anywhere you have methamphetamines, you have chemicals. Any place you have volatile chemicals, obviously, you can have an explosion or fire. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Run. Everybody run!

GUPTA: For Liz Devine and John Haynes, brainstorming and mining memories together is proving to be a good second act.

(on camera): Did you ever think you would be doing this sort of work here?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Never. Never. Not in a million years.

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GUPTA: Well, I'll tell you, as well, they say they miss the real stuff. And Hollywood is not all glitz and glamour, but I'll tell you, Bill, I don't see them going back anytime soon. They're having a lot of fun with the show.

HEMMER: And somehow they tie it altogether in the last 30 seconds.

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GUPTA: That's right, they solve the entire crime.

HEMMER: What's coming up tomorrow?

GUPTA: Tomorrow we're going to show you the other side. This was the Hollywood version, but the most important part of this special is to show people what really happens in a crime-scene investigation. So a real crime-scene investigation will follow it. We'll see part of that tomorrow.

HEMMER: All right, looking forward to Sunday night, too. "ANATOMY OF MURDER," Sanjay's primetime special. You can see it right here on CNN, Sunday evening right there on the screen, 10:00 Eastern, 7:00 on the West Coast.

In a moment here, a scandal-plagued carmaker has come up with a new way to spark interest in a struggling brand. Andy has that, "Minding Your Business," when we return.

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O'BRIEN: Welcome back, everybody. Energy news now. The White House is calling for a big cut in crude oil prices. Don't look at me, Jack. And a Japanese automaker is turning electric. Those stories, plus a check of the market this morning. Andy is "Minding Your Business."

ANDY SERWER, "FORTUNE" COLUMNIST: The end of the week is almost here.

O'BRIEN: I know. Having a little tough time getting certain words out.

SERWER: Yes, I know the feeling. Let's talk about the markets, first of all, Soledad. See, I'm having trouble, too, here. Dow was trading down when I checked last point -- and last moment, and it still is. It's down 14 points, even though retail sales up 1.4 percent in April, twice as good as expected. And best rise since September.

Wal-Mart posting some disappointing numbers. Slightly disappointing. That stock is down a bit. Target doing OK. Now, the White House top economic adviser, a gentleman named Allan Hubbard, has said that the White House wants $25 a barrel crude oil. Well, don't we all. The price of crude oil is $50 a barrel. Here's some other things we want: world peace Christmas in July and cocktails on the AMERICAN MORNING set.

HEMMER: Yeah!

SERWER: I'll have a mimosa.

Actually, it's not that crazy. I mean, the price of oil was $25 a barrel, we forget, in 2003. But the chances of it going there any time soon, I think, are remote.

JACK CAFFERTY, CNN ANCHOR: What is the purpose of making a statement like that?

SERWER: I don't understand it. I'm sure he's taking a lot of grief for that. Just don't say things like that anymore, that maroon.

OK, and let's finally talk about Mitsubishi. Here we go again. Another automaker trying an electric car. Why do they keep doing this? It is not a value proposition. Here it is, the tiny electric car from Mitsubishi, set to roll out in 2010. Gee, we're holding our breath for this thing.

O'BRIEN: Why is it not a value proposition?

SERWER: Check this out -- well, because they get about 80 miles on -- a range of about 80 miles or so, and they cost about the same as a regular car. And why would you get one?

HEMMER: You got to drive somewhere that has an outlet, right?

SERWER: Right. Or your garage has one. The one thing with -- that pictures show -- listen to this, a rear wheel motor. The motor is in the rear -- check that out. It's the old lithium ion battery trick. And Mitsubishi trying things because they were scandal- plagued. They've been hiding auto defects from regulators over the past couple of years.

CAFFERTY: This (INAUDIBLE) don't get it.

SERWER: No.

CAFFERTY: This will not solve their problems.

(CROSSTALK) SERWER: Hybrid cars, OK. You know, these things...

CAFFERTY: Plus, I mean, the batteries wear out, and then you have these dead batteries that you have to dispose of.

SERWER: Put them right on the front yard, with the lawn ornaments.

HEMMER: What's happening? One final batch.

CAFFERTY: John Bolton. They may vote today in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee whether to confirm this guy as the next ambassador to the U.N. We want to know if you think he's the man for the job.

Sarah in Florida: "Go right ahead with Bolton. That would almost complete the picture of ourselves that we've worked so hard to create these past five years in the world community."

Jerry in Georgia writes: "John Bolton's insensitive to the needs of others, totally lacking in compassion, diplomacy and team-building. He's incapable of creating consensus, he has no demonstrable leadership skills. John Bolton is absolutely the perfect choice to represent the Bush administration at the U.N."

And Frank in South Carolina: "Jack, of course someone like you would not see anything wrong with John Bolton. So he's a little grumpy and condescending, right? You're kind of guy. You're both just all-around nice fellows. You two should maybe get together and go heckle a new season of the 'The Muppet Show.'"

SERWER: Heckle a new season of "The Muppet Show"?

O'BRIEN: Oh, a low blow.

SERWER: Where did that come from? Hey, being frank.

HEMMER: Yeah, in South Carolina. Negative vote today, in D.C.

Coming up next hour, "CNN LIVE TODAY," tips from the new bestseller on looking younger and feeling healthier. Daryn has that. Tomorrow on AMERICAN MORNING, part two of our "Prom Night Pressure" series. Kelly Wallace has that. We're back in a moment, after this.

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O'BRIEN: Let's wrap this up. We're out of time this morning. Daryn Kagan's at the CNN Center, going to take us through the next few hours on "CNN LIVE TODAY." Good morning, Daryn.

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