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Legal View with Ashleigh Banfield
ISIS Trains And Promotes Its "Child Army"; Obama Taps Joe Biden To Lead Fight For Cure To Cancer; $1.5 Billion Up For Grabs In Powerball Tonight. Aired 12:30-1p ET
Aired January 13, 2016 - 12:30 ET
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[12:30:12] NIMA ELBAGIR, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: .. and the swimming of reader, with the -- in making their way, through that river, swimming to the river under cover of dark, risking their lives, to make it here to safety. But not all manage to escape.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Many times when we are fighting ISIS, we see children of the front line, and they are wearing explosive vests.
ELBAGIR: What is it like for you the have to open fire on children?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They are brainwashed. When they make it through our lines, they kill our fighters. It is an unbearably hard decision. You don't know what to do. If you don't kill them, they will kill you.
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ELBAGIR: U.S. military sources tell CNN as ISIS comes on the increased pressure on the battlefield. They are relying on child soldiers to fill out the ranks.
This 12-year-old boy was featured in the Al-Farouq Institute propaganda video. He says he was training to be a suicide bomber. Now, reunited with his mother, he is asked us not to broadcast his face or his voice, and we are asked that we call him "Nassr", not his real name.
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TRANSLATOR: There were 60 of us. The scariest times for us all were when the air strikes happened. They'd lead us all underground into the tunnels to hide. They told us the Americans, the unbelievers were trying to kill us, but they, the fighters loved us.
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ELBAGIR: This, of course, was all part of the indoctrination. His ISIS handlers would tell him they were now his only family.
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TRANSLATOR: When we are training, they would tell us our parents were unbelievers, unclean, and that our first job was to go back and kill them, that we were cleaning the world of them, of all unbelievers.
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ELBAGIR: "Nassr" says the youngest of the boys was five years old. None of them exempt are from the grueling training.
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TRANSLATOR: We weren't allowed to cry, but I would think about my mother, think about her worrying about me and I try and cry quietly.
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ELBAGIR: Highly stylized and romanticized, ISIS has released a number of videos showcasing its "child army", but the reality is of course very different.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When they arrive to us, they are so skinny and, they barely look human. They tell us they have been living in a hell.
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ELBAGIR: Back at the camp, Sarah mother hopes her little girl will eventually forget about the headscarf and the face covering and the men with guns who threatened her life. Nima Elbagir, CNN, Gwer, Iraq.
ASLEIGH BANFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Our thanks to Nima Elbagir, thank you for that.
And coming up next if you watched the State of the Union address last night, you probably smell something very significant, Joe Biden getting a brand new job. And it is a job that could save millions of people's lives. He's smiling because he lost his own son to cancer. His new fight is that no one else has the same thing happen.
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[12:37:13] BANFIELD: I want to show you some recent pictures just into CNN. This is the president heading out of the White House. He's going to board at Marine I and then head over to join Andrews Air Force Base to jump on Air Force One, because he is off on the selling to our folks, selling all those key points that he made last night in his last State of the Union address.
On the right, you can see what happened after he boarded Marine I, taking off from the air force base.
So, one of the really critical and I think would might be the penultimate points that he made in the State of the Union address is what's been called the moonshot moment. And it brought some very big applause from both sides of the aisle during this address.
The president issued a very tall order and a personal task for his Vice President Joe Biden. He put the V.P. in charge of finding a cure for cancer. Have a listen.
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BARACK OBAMA, U.S. PRESIDENT: Tonight, I'm announcing a new national effort to get it done, and because he's gone to the mat for all of us on so many issues over the past 40 years, I am putting Joe in charge of mission control. For the loved ones that we've all lost, for the families that we can still save. Let's make America, the country that cures cancer once and for all.
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BANFIELD: Joining me now to talk about whether that is possible even as the Executive Vice President for the American Cancer Society, Dr Otis Brawley. Doctor thank you so much being with us today. I'm sure that you were elated to hear that call for a head of mission control in this stand, but President Nixon also declared war on cancer, but it's 45 years ago. Is it realistic, this mission that Joe Biden has been given?
OTIS BRAWLEY, EXECUTIVE PRESIDENT, AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY: Well, I think it is somewhat realistic. Curing cancer perhaps not in the near future, but we can do a lot better than what we've been doing. We have had a 25 percent decrease in risk of death from cancer to the last 25 years, and we can do a lot better. We need coordination. I like the mission control analogy.
BANFIELD: OK so as a I understand it, and, you know, the business far better than I do. Effectively in lay person's term, it is clunky, the business of finding a cure for cancer. It is messy. There are silos of information that don't get shared. There are privacy laws that inoculate information from getting out to people who might best be able to use it well towards the ultimate goal. So does this require this problem? Does it require the position that the president just created in Joe Biden?
BRAWLEY: I think it does. It is actually much more of a problem of logistics than it is a problem of science. We actually have a lot of information that's currently not getting to the American people. For example, in breast cancer, we have data to show that 20 to 25 percent of women with breast cancer get less than optimal care. That's research that's already been done that people are not able to benefit from the American people.
[12:40:03] For example in breast cancer, we have data that show the 20 to 25 percent of women with breast cancer gets less than optimal care. That's research that's already been done that people are not able to benefit from.
When we do the research, there we got number of scientists who are now competing with each other. We need someone to come in and fix the system, fix the logistics. We need concerted effort to fund those scientists. Right now, many of the scientists are spending half of their time writing grants to get money, and half of the time to doing research. If we can have someone to come in and make that system more efficient, we're going to have more research, and if we can have someone come in look at what is going on with the patients, we can get the benefits of that research, the fruits of that research to the patients more quickly, and get them to more patients.
BANFIELD: So Dr. Brawley, project to compare the fight against the AIDS - the HIV and AIDS back in the '80s when that became, you know, war number one in medicine, and things seemed to be manageable. Is that sort of the track that we might be looking at with cancer?
BRAWLEY: Well, you know, when we had the AIDS epidemic, we actually created and AIDS czar. The title is actually AIDS czar, and that was someone who had command and control of what was going on in research. What was going on in treatment, and what we really now are seemingly getting is a cancer czar. Vice President Biden being in charged and having that command in control authority.
BANFIELD: And my assumption is that he will be calling you very shortly, and my best regards and my wishes towards this cure. This is something that affects everyone.
BRAWLEY: Thank you absolutely.
BANFIELD: And no degrees of separation in this illness. Dr. Brawley, thank you so much for being with us today and good luck
OK. Who wants to be a billionaire? Apparently just about everybody, especially if you've seen those lines with the powerball ticket, because this is an all-time record jackpot. It is now a billion and a half dollars, and folks, it is going up. It is growing. The pictures of the lines are one thing, and we are going to take you to Tallapoosa, Georgia, to buy one in a minute.
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[12:46:33] BANFIELD: This next segment is called you won't win, but if you do, I am speaking of course with Powerball and the mind-blowing jackpot that now stands at $1.5 billion. But probably, it is going to go up again before tonight's drawing at 10:59 p.m. Eastern time.
It is by far the biggest jackpot available to to a single winner in all of human history. The El Gordo lottery in Spain has had bigger jackpots, but there are thousands of winners. You won't win the Powerball because of the odds of matching all six numbers extraordinary, they are 1 in 292,201,338 and those last eight are the toughest odds. Sorry.
You are more likely in fact to be struck by lightning. You are much more likely to drown, and you are even more likely to be struck by lightning while you are drowning. I am not kidding. But if do win, you will probably pick the lump sum payout because almost everybody does. And if you do that after you pay the taxes on it, here is what you can buy, folks. Get ready. Seven Gulfstream jets, the G6 ones $65 million box a pop or you could buy this Playboy mansion which just went on the market for $200 million and you could fill that Playboy mansion with 700,000 bottles of Dom Perignon. And if you wanted to pay or pay it forward, you could put 6,000 kids through a four-year public university or 2,700 kids to a private university or you could buy a few hundred million more Powerball tickets for the next time around, because your odds are really good if you won that one.
We are going to go now to where the tickets are flying out the door in Tallapoosa, Georgia with my colleague, Polo Sandoval, and then in Manhattan also where Phil Mattingly is watching the cash register go bing bing (ph).
Polo, first to you as I understand that you can buy a ticket in Georgia, but you can't buy a ticket in next door Alabama. So let's (inaudible) the Alabama and it's coming to where you are.
POLO SANDOVAL, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Exactly. We've seen that all morning, Ashleigh. In fact, as I show you what is aligned that has been building, let's go ahead and do a very quick nonscientific poll here.
Show of hands. How many folks visiting from Alabama right now? As you can see, you can see a couple in the crowd right now, Ashleigh. What's interesting here is as you mentioned, our six states in the U.S. who do not participate in Powerball, you have Alaska, Hawaii, Mississippi, Alabama, Utah and Nevada, so a lot of people, they live in those states wants at least to shot at that $1.5 billion pie.
So, much of the morning, we've seen people drive a couple of miles, a couple of hours perhaps because that state border only five miles from here, this crowd only going to get bigger as we get closer to the drawing, Ashleigh.
BANFIELD: There's a lot of zeroes below you. I keep just like - I'm mesmerized by them. I can barely even think of what you're saying, Polo, just because there are so many zeroes on the graphics below you.
Hold your thoughts for a second, Polo. I want to skip over to Manhattan where loads and loads and loads of people are really, really rich.
Phil Mattingly, you are standing among presumably some of them and nobody cares, they're all going after the bigger jackpot.
Tell me what's going on in the business there. The business is selling tickets where you are.
[12:50:02] PHIL MATTINGLY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Two levels down in Penn Station, you were looking at a place, one store official said he's seeing about a three to four times up to in terms of customers. Why does that matter? This store sells more lottery tickets in the state of New York than any other and they are seeing that kind of increase right now between commuters and travelers that we talked to a bunch of them obviously, you have your (inaudible), they buy a lot of tickets. But there are some that are out for one reason and one reason only, the size of this jackpot.
Take a listen.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm one of the guys who play when it gets to be a big jackpot. I need big. I'm a big time guy.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I usually play if it's over $200 million, just for the thought of, you know, maybe got possibility.
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MATTINGLY: So, Ashleigh, as you can see, the big jackpot bringing out a lot of people. And if there is no winner today, $2 billion could be the next one. You can expect this place to be packed once again.
BANFIELD: Unbelievable. All right.
Phil, thank you. Polo, thank you. Don't forget to get your tickets before you sign off.
And by the way, if you are one of those people who bought one, we've got some really good advice for you. We have tapped our lawyers to do all of the research to let you know how you can avoid a massive legal mess over your winning ticket, especially if you are in an office pool.
And by the way, you could lose it all. We are also going to give you some important legal advice on how to handle all those winnings, where to stash all the cash, how to handle all the taxes, because do you know what, folks? It ain't easy being a billionaire.
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[12:55:43] BANFIELD: OK. I don't think I need to tell you, but this is really the talk of the nation right now or at least the talk of the 44 states that actually played the Powerball whose ten-figure jackpot is up for grabs in a little over ten hours.
I also draw your attention to the states marked in yellow. They are the ones, the are the only ones that allow Powerball winners to stay anonymous.
Would you really want your old college roommates to know that you are a brand-new billionaire, and they got a startup? Or a friend in need?
It brings me to all of the little issues that can blow up into major battles if you are lucky enough to strike insanely rich.
And our legal analyst Joey Jackson and Paul Callan have done all of the number crunching and they scoured the code to find out what you need to do to make sure you are inoculated against those jerks.
JOEY JACKSON, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: And we're sharing it with no one. We're keeping it to ourselves.
Look, here's the reality. All office pools, you mean well, by your colleagues, you love each other, you're playing every week and then all of the sudden, you do something called winning. And then when you win, people have this memory that says, "It was my ticket." And interestingly enough, Ashleigh, a number of years ago --
BANFIELD: Well, you used my ticket and none of yours?
JACKSON: No - None of yours.
BANFIELD: Maybe?
JACKSON: This was I - no, look, I purchased it, I know I'm the designated person for the pool that o goes out every week and purchases for everyone. But this week, I purchased for myself and then I went and I purchased the other people's tickets, so this ticket is mine and I am claiming it, and you are getting nothing.
And in fact, a number of years ago, I represented someone with just that case particular case. And the court basically said nonsense.
BANFIELD: So these are the things --
JACKSON: So this is what you do.
BANFIELD: -- you have to do.
JACKSON: This is what you do. You're going to photograph the ticket, that's presuming you get a designated person who goes every week, and that designated person goes out, they get the ticket.
BANFIELD: You need photocopy?
JACKSON: Right, photocopy the ticket, you do what you need to do, you distribute the ticket but you can post it in a place that everybody convenes then like (inaudible) or something else, everybody signs the ticket, and then that is all good.
BANFIELD: Really? You got to sign?
JACKSON: Well, you don't have to sign, but you know what? This is a legal issue, and as a result of that, you want to protect yourself.
BANFIELD: How about the guy in the poll who says, "Joey, you're the designated guy who's going to buy the ticket. Yeah, (Joey), I got you, spot me the five on this one, I'll pay you next week."
JACKSON: I say that the courts will award that person the money.
BANFIELD: Really?
JACKSON: You know, when it comes down to one of the couple of things I have to say about it, number one, oral contracts, oral contracts can be, an agreement can be oral, all right. You don't go when you don't make contracts with people you are doing the office pools in. But the other issue is courts look at matters of equity.
BANFIELD: OK.
JACKSON: And they look at matters of who is going to be unjustly enriched as a result of behavior.
BANFIELD: So we have one so -- JACKSON: So I say --
PAUL CALLAN, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: And they all will look at who is telling the truth.
JACKSON: Yes.
CALLAN: And did the guy --
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CALLAN: Oh, the truth.
Yes, the truth. And like the guy who said, you know, buy me the ticket really save why (ph).
BANFIELD: That's the prove that we won. Hey, everybody, we won. Wow. This is awesome. What is the first thing I need to do?
CALLAN: Well, the first thing, and I'll tell you it is based on experience that I've had with clients who have recovered large amounts of money, every hanger-on, relative, neighbor, is going to be hounding you, they want a piece of the money to invest in some harebrained scheme. And by the time it is all said and done, a lot of people have lost all of the money.
So the most important thing I think is find a way to remain anonymous about it. So you're at home, you read, you won the lottery, the first phone call you make would be to Donald Trump's lawyer, actually, if you knew who he was, and he might take your case.
JACKSON: (Inaudible) the call.
CALLAN: Yes.
BANFIELD: I think he's probably right.
CALLAN: Now, assuming he is out of town and you can't get him, I would suggest go to a local lawyer in your town, not to hire him to do this, but to have him do the research as to best trust lawyer and set up an anonymous trust, a claiming trust, their all kinds where you can keep your identity relatively secret and the second thing is put the ticket in a safe deposit box. And you might want to hire a security guard to take you to the bank.
Those two things could be very smart moves to get setup to surrender the ticket to the lottery officials.
BANFIELD: And on top of all those very savvy moves, other people have said change your phone number, change your e-mail, take down your social media, just so that you don't get the onslaught. That you can really think this through carefully with stage advice and stage folks who surround you.
And the last thing real quickly, Mark Cuban said put it in the bank, don't invest it. CALLAN: Yeah. Well --
BANFIELD: That sounds crazy.
[12:60:03] CALLAN: Well, I mean when he said put it in the bank, I'm sure --
JACKSON: Money changes the reality, I guess, put it in the --
CALLAN: In an index fund or, you know --
BANFIELD: Yes. And with all the welfare (inaudible) to win.
CALLAN: Invest conservatively. You're very rich. You don't need --
JACKSON: I scream, I want stake at a minimum.
CALLAN: Yeah, you need --
BANFIELD: OK, well, you're going to talk to Wolf Blitzer about that because we're walking into his show right now.
