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ISIS Seizing Control of Kobani; U.S. Sets Up Labs to Help Ebola Victims; Police Break Window, Tase Passenger During Traffic Stop
Aired October 08, 2014 - 06:30 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
ARWA DAMON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: We have been hearing fighter jets overhead. This explosion significantly louder than anything we had been hearing or seeing over the last few days.
Earlier, we also saw similar explosions further to the east, unclear at this stage if that was because of an air strike or not. There were similar explosions reported yesterday around Kobani, but CentCom has yet to come out and say they were firing during the day around the town. They did say that they have struck numerous targets over last 48 hours, but those strikes taking place overnight.
Kobani is significant for a number of reasons. Not to mention the humanitarian catastrophe that unfolded as ISIS swept through here. But no one can really afford to see Kobani fall. There is the issue of that if it does fall to ISIS, ISIS would have a clear logistical supply route from the border with Turkey, to its stronghold in Raqqa.
But then, you also have the underlying dynamics between the Kurds and the Turks. The Kurdish population is very frustrated and angry with the coalition, because even though, yes, we are seeing airstrikes taking place, they want to see a lot more, equally frustrated and angry with turkey for not taking a more definitive military position.
CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Well, Arwa, certainly, if that explosion is the sign of another air strike, we know they've been intensifying the attacks, it shows an urgency by the coalition, and you make the most important point. Whether strategically, Kobani is all-important, doesn't really matter, because the people there matter most and certainly there's been a heavy toll and it will get much worse if ISIS overcomes the city completely.
Arwa, thank you very much. Stay safe. And we'll check back in with you.
Michaela?
MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: All right. A lot of news to get to, so let's look at your headlines right now.
The FBI asking for the public's help now, in identifying a masked man seen in this propaganda video from ISIS. Officials believe he is American. He speaks both Arabic and English. He speaks with a North American accent.
A portion of the video was posted on the FBI's Web site. Officials are hoping someone might recognize his voice or his appearance or even both.
Pardon me. Four men now have been arrested on suspicion of plotting a terror attack in London. This threat was considered serious enough that armed police assisted in the raid. Now, we do not know the specifics of what the men, all in their early 20s, were allegedly planning. These latest arrests come almost two weeks after police in the U.K. arrested at least 10 other men on suspicion of terror offenses.
Confusion over a revised count of new voters in Ferguson, Missouri, in the wake of the Michael Brown shooting. The St. Louis County election board has revised the number from almost 3,300 to just 128. The director of elections says the original number was inflated because it included voters who changed registration information. It had been believed, that protests that followed the shooting inspired a rash of new voters.
All right. A little prank video promotion for a new Halloween movie called "Ouija."
Take a look.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: R.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: U. N.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Run! Run!
(EXPLETIVE DELETED)
(SCREAMING)
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PEREIRA: Yes, I would have run.
I'm suspecting New Yorkers were given a chance to get a free Ouija board reading and wound up getting scared out of their socks. The video is used to ramp up interest in the film which hits theaters October 24th. It is the eyeballs that have sent me --
CUOMO: Are those her eyeballs or those are --
PEREIRA: There are people who apparently can do that. I don't want to try. That would have -- I would have lost it.
ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: Right, that was scary enough.
PEREIRA: That was super-scary.
CUOMO: Ouija board, experiences as a child, believe in truth?
CAMEROTA: First of all, it was a slumber party staple.
PEREIRA: Absolutely.
CAMEROTA: Yes, it was, you would -- I still seek truth on it.
CUOMO: Alisyn Camerota, true that you used it to discover things about yourself?
Michaela Pereira, about boys and whether they liked you? True or not?
PEREIRA: Maybe.
(LAUGHTER)
CAMEROTA: Well, thank you for that analysis.
CUOMO: Nailed it.
PEREIRA: Didn't end well.
CUOMO: They're quiet. A rare moment for me to absorb, we're going to move on.
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CUOMO: It's too late to come back.
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CUOMO: Meteorologist Indra Petersons, also known as the master of perfection, keeping track of things in the latest forecast for us.
INDRA PETERSONS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: I don't think anyone got to the point where we discovered anything. All the kids were screaming, crying, there's a lot going on with that Ouija board. No one ever got there.
Kind of an eerie day today. We're looking at the Northeast, still a lot of thunder and lightning, but the system is making its way offshore. Definitely some visibility issues for everyone trying to look up. We're going to get to that in a second.
Just keep in mind, as the system makes its way out, we are going to be talking about some gusty winds. I mean, they're going to be out there. It could mean some potential delays, Boston could gust as high as 32. Not too bad, but enough you're going to feel it especially if you have allergies.
Otherwise, temperature difference, we're going to notice the cold front starting to bring showers to the middle of the week. Otherwise, we needed to note, the temperature divide still exists. You're talking about 50s not north, out towards like Bismarck, Dallas looking for 91 degrees, keep in mind, if you're in the southwest, we do have concerns, remnants of Simon could bring some flooding.
Otherwise, this is what everyone is talking about right now -- the blood moon. Almost like a super moon, it's so big out there and it is orange. So what is going on? The peak right now is now until about the next hour or so.
Remember, the Earth is going through, we're seeing the moon in the earth's shadow right now. Not until it become as total lunar eclipse do you start to see all the reflections of the Earth's sunrises and sunsets, to make this guy orange.
Send us photos, we love this. I know if you're in the northeast or maybe in the southwest, there's some clouds out there. I'm still getting good shots. People are still sending me shots with clouds in the mix. You can still see it.
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PEREIRA: No clouds there.
PETERSONS: No clouds in a place where it's beautiful, always.
CAMEROTA: We need an Ouija board.
PETERSONS: Tonight is not the night, it's scary. But if you want to try it with you.
CAMEROTA: Thanks, Indra.
CUOMO: Blood moon, responsible for any types of behavior changes, anything like that?
PETERSONS: One of those, is it? Isn't it?
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CUOMO: Lunatic comes from moon? Lunatic, anything?
CAMEROTA: Notice anything?
CUOMO: Nothing. Every day is a crazy day here. All right. We'll see what happens.
Please report any strange activity.
CAMEROTA: Good.
CUOMO: So, U.S. troops, are they being set up for disaster? Here's why the proposition is in play. Ebola has already killed more than 2,000 people in Liberia. And now, members of the U.S. Navy are on the ground building labs and clinics trying to stop the virus from claiming more lives. But are their lives in jeopardy? We're going to take you inside their monumental effort.
CAMEROTA: And you have to see this shocking video of a police officer using a taser on a man, after breaking his car window, children were in the back. Is this a case of excessive force?
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CAMEROTA: The nurse who contracted Ebola in Madrid says she did nothing wrong. She tells Spanish media she followed all protocols before she got sick.
U.S. naval personnel now working around the clock to help save lives in Ebola-stricken Liberia. America has set up four labs in an effort to diagnose and treat potential victims. It's not an easy task.
CNN's Nima Elbagir gives us a rare glimpse inside one of those labs.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is what we do in our day job.
NIMA ELBAGIR, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): For U.S. naval personnel deployed to Liberia, the day job has become testing for the Ebola virus. Their lab just minutes from International Medical Corps' Ebola Care Center.
The U.S. has funded four such labs in the fight against the virus.
SEAN CASEY, TEAM DIRECTOR: It's a complete game-changer. Some patients have only minor symptoms and they're not convinced they have Ebola. So, they might a avoid coming because they're afraid they'll become infected here. Now that we have the lab, patients can get the results back within hours.
ELBAGIR: Perched on top of a hillside, the IMC treatment facility feels very far away from the crowded beds and dangy hallways of the Liberian government centers.
This 19-year-old waited a week for an ambulance. He was carried here bleeding by his father.
Today, he's recovered enough to tell us he thinks he's going home.
But there will always be those they couldn't save. The IMC treatment center opened less than a month ago. And already, a line of graves has snaked through this clearing in the jungle and more are being dug.
President Obama has authorized up to 4,000 troops. A few hundred have arrived in countries, 600 are expected before the end of the month. But will it be enough?
COL. JIM CZARNIK, COMMAND SURGEON, JOINT FORCES COMMAND: There's no question in my mind that we're making an impact. There is no better fight worth fighting than the one in Liberia right now. Soldiers are used to moving toward the sounds of the guns. These are the loudest guns that the world has heard in a long time.
ELBAGIR: Nima Elbagir, CNN, Bomi County, Liberia.
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CAMEROTA: Incredible glimpse there.
Well, the video is shocking. It's a police officer smashing a car window and tasing a passenger after a routine traffic stop. How can this be justified? We will debate that. CUOMO: And something far less controversial -- the new CNN series
"Roots: Our Journey's Home" kicks off on Sunday. It has a lot of us digging into our histories, including yours truly.
CAMEROTA: I can't wait to see your trip to Italy.
CUOMO: What we find out, very surprising, even to us. It turns out my real name, Federico. Kidding.
The series runs across all of CNN next week. Here's a look.
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ANNOUNCER: CNN, all next week, they travel the world to chase the story. But not just anyone's story, their own.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's going to be a journey of surprises.
(MUSIC)
ANNOUNCER: The story of how they came to be.
ANTHONY BOURDAIN, HOST, "PARTS UNKNOWN": I had a great, great, great, great grandfather come to Paraguay around the 1850s.
WOLF BLITZER, HOST "THE SITUATION ROOM": My grandparents died here.
ANNOUNCER: The story of their ancestors.
CUOMO: This is where my great grandmother was begin up for adoption.
ANDERSON COOPER, HOST, "AC360": My dad's report card going back to 1944.
ANNOUNCER: Their history.
DR. SANJAY GUPTA, HOST, "SANJAY GUPTA MD": These records go back 40 generations.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When we found out there's people here related to us, that's when it felt real to me.
ANNOUNCER: And now, they share those stories with you.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's like going back in time.
JAKE TAPPER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: My colonial ancestors were on the wrong side.
PEREIRA: It was like coming home.
ANNOUNCER: Join the familiar faces of CNN as they trace their roots. All next week, starting Sunday, on CNN.
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CAMEROTA: Do you know what time it is, Chris?
CUOMO: Tell me.
CAMEROTA: It's "CNN Money Time."
CUOMO: Thank you.
CAMEROTA: Christine Romans is in our money center. Christine, a big drop on Wall Street ---
CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I know.
CAMEROTA: - - to tell us about.
ROMANS: It's CNN I need more money time this morning, because it was a major sell off on Wall Street yesterday. Stocks dropped to the lowest level in months, worries about slowing growth in Europe, the Dow lost 272 points. Guys, that's the worst one-day drop in more than two months. Will it continue today? Futures are slightly lower right now, so we'll watch.
Walmart eliminating health benefits for 30,000 part-time workers. The cut is an effort to control rising health care costs. Walmart says more employees than expected signed up for health care this year, a reported $500 million increase. Those workers who have now lost coverage will be eligible for government health care.
Now, how would you like to ride a camel through the desert? Google is taking street view to a whole new level. They put a Trekker camera on a camel and walked it through the Liwa Desert. Users can now see the ancient United Arab Emirates landscape on Google from a camel eye view. It's really cook, guys.
CUOMO: I want to hear the story of how that was done. That was good. Thank you, Christine.
Alright, so, police tactics under the microscope again, and for good reason. Take a look at this.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm scared. If you can pull out a gun in front of - - there's two kids in the back seat.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you understand?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Alright.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, don't mess with - - now they're about to mess my - - -no!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm not the operator of this vehicle, so if you do that - - Alright. I'm not the operator of this vehicle.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you going to open the door?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why do you say somebody's not going to hurt you? People are getting shot by the police.
(SCREAMING)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: On the ground.
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CUOMO: This video being taken in the back seat by a kid, and it is of cops in Indiana breaking a window, obviously, tasing that guy in the passenger seat during a routine traffic stop, and the kids in the back seat got hit with glass. They say the passenger, Jamal Jones refused to produce I.D., that's what the cops say, and then refused to get out of the car for 13 minutes. That will be key in this investigation, by the way.
All the while, the cops also say he reached behind him, and when he did, they feared he was reaching for a weapon. Now, he says he didn't leave the car because he was scared of the cops and a weapon was never found in the car. And all of this, from a seat belt violation, and not even his girlfriend, who was driving, she wasn't involved.
So, now they're suing the cops for excessive force and false arrest among other things. What is the legal situation here, and what is the right versus wrong of it? Let's bring in former New York City prosecutor and CNN legal analyst, Mr. Paul Callan and Mo Ivory, attorney and radio host. This story certainly appeals to the heart, but let us begin with the head, okay? Paul, what is the legal basis? When a cop makes a traffic stop, what are they allowed to do?
PAUL CALLAN, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Well, the Supreme Court of the United States actually had a series of cases about this. In the late 1990's they had two cases, the Mims case and the Wilson case. And both of those cases said when you make a routine traffic stop, Chief Justice Rehnquist said the danger that passengers pose to police officers is so great that the police officer, without even reasonable suspicion, can order the passengers out of the vehicle, as well as the driver. So the Supreme Court has said what the Indiana cops did is perfectly legal for the safety of police officers.
CUOMO: Well, what they did meaning asking for the I.D., asking him to get out of the car was legal.
CALLANL: Correct.
CUOMO: Okay, so now we go to what they do when he doesn't get out of the car. Alright, let's assume that not giving them the I.D., not getting out of the car was wrong. So now what should have the cops done, Mo?
MO IVORY, ATTORNEY, RADIO HOST: Well first of all, under Indiana law, when you ask a passenger in a car for I.D., they do not have to give you that I.D. under Indiana law. You can ask them to get out of the car, but they do not have to produce an I.D. But that is not even what happened in this case.
He told the officers, I don't have my license because it was taken because of an insurance violation, but I do have the ticket to show you that my license was taken. Why don't I give you that? That was not enough for these officers. So of course, they will go to well, we have reasonable suspicion that he had a gun in the car. Because every black man has a gun in the car. This is the problem. An officer can always say, I was fearing for my life. I thought that he was reaching for something. He was reaching for the piece of paper that you asked him for.
CUOMO: Okay, and again, that harkens us to the case that happened just a week or so ago.
IVORY: In South Carolina.
CUOMO: Where the man said he was going for what the cop asked him for, and he got shot a lot by the police officer for his efforts. But let's not go to race yet, Mo, and I know you're going to say I'm avoiding the obvious. But, the man and the woman in the car were not just noncompliant, they were openly defiant of the police officer.
IVORY: I disagree, I disagree.
CUOMO: But hold on. I don't know the Indiana law, I'm trusting you that there is a law somewhere that says, you don't have to offer I.D. to a cop.
CALLAN: Wait a minute, wait a minute - -
IVORY: Chris, but what you just said- -
CALLAN: No, Mo, Mo, just stop for a second.
IVORY: What you just said was that the driver and the passenger were openly defiant. That is not true. That is what the officer is saying.
CUOMO: Right, no, no, that's what I'm saying.
IVORY: This woman was on her way - -
CUOMO: That's their basis for behavior, Mo.
IVORY: Okay, but, Chris --
CUOMO: That's their basis. The cops say they were openly defiant.
CALLAN: Chris, Chris, Chris.
CUOMO: That's why I'm saying it. It's not my opinion, it's what the cop said. What do you think of that?
CALLAN: Well, if we want to talk about the law, alright, the law says that you don't have to have reasonable suspicion. You don't have to think he's reaching for a gun. Chief Justice Rehnquist said you can tell the passengers to get out of the car - -
CUOMO: For whatever reason.
CALLAN: With no suspicion. Alright, so forget about them reaching for a gun.
CUOMO: But the cops say they were being openly defiant.
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CUOMO: Do you buy that?
CALLAN: Now, let me finish my point, because I don't care about the open defiance, whether it happened or not. I'm looking at police officers surrounding a car for 13 minutes and saying to the passengers get out. And they're refusing to get out. Now, have you ever heard of a situation? Mo, have you heard of a situation involving another car where for 13 minutes.
IVORY: Paul, Paul, if you want, Paul - -
CALLAN: Could you please answer the question?
IVORY: Yes, please.
CALLAN: Give me another case where passengers remained in a car, of any race, for 13 minutes, refusing to obey the cops. One case in the United States. I've never heard of one.
IVORY: Paul, let me tell you why. Oh, you've never head of one? I'm sure you haven't.
CALLAN: Well, have you?
IVORY: A lot of people have never heard of one. Let me tell you something, he had every reason to not want to get out of that car.
CALLAN: That being what?
IVORY: Because his life- -
CALLAN: He doesn't like the police?
IVORY: - - could have been in danger getting out of the car.
CALLAN: So he can defy the police at will?
IVORY: And that's what you're failing to address.
CUOMO: Hold on, hold on. Make the point, Mo.
IVORY: This is not about, Paul, please listen. This is not about the 13 minutes and why didn't they just get out of the car. This is about the excessive, rampant force that is being used against black men. This man was a passenger in a car going to see his girlfriend's dying mother.
CALLAN: I did not hear racial epithets used by the police officers.
IVORY: Why didn't the police- - Paul, Paul.
CALLAN: I did not hear a single reference to race.
CUOMO: Paul, let's hear the full case.
IVORY: Paul, let me finish. Why didn't the police officer offer them a police escort to the hospital to see her dying mother? Why does the disrespect happen from the second the stop happens? It doesn't matter if he was --
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CALLAN: Maybe he would have if they had gotten out of the car like the cops asked.
CUOMO: Alright, but, hold on. Mo --
IVORY: Stop with the excuses.
CUOMO: Mo, but you have to.
IVORY: This is a problem.
CUOMO: Mo, there's no question, it's a problem, agreed, undebatable, incontrovertible, and easily demonstrable. We can show it again and again and again. But you do have to look at every case because you have these 13 minutes, what does that show us? Why does it matter? You can't say it doesn't matter at all.
IVORY: Chris- -
CUOMO: It does show that -- but here's why it matters, Mo.
IVORY: I understand.
CUOMO: Because these cops didn't immediately jump to doing the wrong thing. They eventually got to being excessive perhaps, but they didn't start there.
IVORY: Chris, they started by stopping the woman for a seat belt violation.
CUOMO: Right.
IVORY: And automatically questioning the passenger in the car. The second that the woman said, I am trying to get to my dying mother at the hospital, where is the protect and serve in that?
CUOMO: Well, but, hold on, Mo.
IVORY: Where is the compassion?
CUOMO: Mo, I hear you.
IVORY: Where is the respect?
CUOMO: I hear you, but if you talk to cops, you know the number one thing they're told by white, black, green and yellow when they pull them is -
IVORY: White, black, green and yellow?
CUOMO: Come on.
IVORY: What, black, green and yellow?
CUOMO: Everybody says I have an emergency, that's why I was doing whatever I was doing wrong. But you just absolutely believe that if this is had been a white couple or an Asian couple, this would not have happened, true?
IVORY: Chris. No doubt this wouldn't have happened. A white officer just pulled a white woman over the other day because her child wasn't in a car seat. Did she get arrested? Did her child get threatened to go to child protective custody? No, he went to a store, he bought her a car seat, he put the child in the car seat, he let her go. And then he got on the news. And then he got on CNN. Did that happen?
CALLAN: Chris, Chris, these cases - -
CUOMO: It was the Good Stuff actually on this show, Mo, but make your final point, Paul.
CALLAN: I want to be clear. The cops overreacted and , in the end, mishandled this case. We know that, of course, because there was no weapon in the case, there was no danger.
CUOMO: We have to see how it gets resolved.
CALLAN: But four Indiana cops were killed last year in line of duty shootings, the most dangerous thing that happens with a cop is when they approach a car to give a violation.
IVORY: Right, and every black man is carrying a gun.
CALLAN: Please, let me finish.
CUOMO: Mo, hold on a second.
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CUOMO: Let's have each side equally heard..
CALLAN: That's the most dangerous situation a cop faces. And when you approach a car, and you ask the passengers to step out, and they refuse for 13 minutes, I'm not surprised that this escalated. It would not have escalated if the passengers complied with the request.
CUOMO: Look, this situation -- hold on, Mo, Mo. IVORY: What's the saddest part, Chris, is that you're not surprised
that it escalated.
CUOMO: I'm not surprised.
IVORY: That's the saddest part.
CUOMO: I'm not surprised, there's no question, but that could be for various reasons. One, when you get into it with it the cops, bad things invariably happen.
IVORY: Right, especially if you're a black man.
CUOMO: And that could be true as well, but we needed to have our heads wrapped around this. Paul, thank you for that and it certainly evokes passion, Mo, and thank you for bringing that to the show because that's what we need to have the discussion for.
IVORY: Yes, we do.
CUOMO: Alright, and thank you for being a part of it.
IVORY: Thank you.
CUOMO: Mo Ivory, Paul Callan. Alright, be sure to join Don Lemon tonight for his interview with the family involved in this incident so you can learn more about their perspective of what happened and why, because there are some facts in dispute here. That will be "CNN TONIGHT" airing at 10:00 Eastern.
Alright, we're following that story, but there's a lot of news to get to this morning so let's do that.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The FBI is asking for the public's help identifying this jihadi speaking in what sounds like an American accent.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's a murdering terrorist, and it's important, if he is an American, for us to find out who he is.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Four men are now under arrest in London.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This was a terror plot thwarted in its early stages.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We must do everything we can to defeat this organization.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There's anger and fear in the streets of Madrid.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A second nurse's assistant is under observation with a fever.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The enemy is Ebola, not people, not countries, not communities, the virus.
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CAMEROTA: Good morning, everyone. Welcome back to NEW DAY. I'm Alisyn Camerota alongside Chris Cuomo. The FBI this morning is hoping the public can help them identify a masked, English-speaking terrorist seen in this ISIS recruitment video. Let's all have a listen.
