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Human Factor: Jacy Good Advocates Safe Driving; ISIS Video Shows Children as Executors; Newest "Charlie Hebdo" Issue Flying Off News Stands; Arrested Teen Saves Cop's Life

Aired January 14, 2015 - 08:30   ET

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MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: All right, time now for the five things you need to know for your new day.

At number one, "Charlie Hebdo" releasing its latest issue a week to the day after terrorists stormed the magazine's Paris office killing 12 people. Al Qaeda in Yemen now claiming responsibility for that attack.

The main body of AirAsia Flight 8501 has been found. That's confirmed by Indonesian officials who also report they have now successfully downloaded the contents of both the cockpit voice recorder and the flight data recorder.

For the first time, ISIS fighters have entered Afghanistan. They are clashing with the Taliban and recruiting new members in the Helmand province. This according to Afghan military officials.

North Korea once again denying it had anything to do with that massive cyber-attack against Sony Pictures. The North Korean ambassador challenging the U.S. to provide evidence.

Might have to wait a little bit longer to get a tax refund this year. The IRS says those who file paper returns need to wait an extra week or even more. They're blaming budget cuts. The good news, fewer audits.

We do update those five things to know, so be sure to visit newdaycnn.com for the latest.

Chris.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: All right, Mic.

How often do you see someone talking on the phone or texting while driving? You do, right? I've done it. It's a bad habit. It can have deadly consequences. And no one knows this better than the young woman you're about to meet. Dr. Sanjay Gupta has her story of survival in this week's "Human Factor."

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DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Being stubborn may have saved Jacy Good's life.

JACY GOOD, SAFE DRIVING ADVOCATE: My mom didn't appreciate it nearly enough. I think it's my best characteristic.

GUPTA: In 2008, on the day she graduated from college, Jacy and her parents were in a car accident caused by a teenager talking on his cell phone. Her mom and dad were killed. Jacy was given a 10 percent chance of survival.

GOOD: My pelvis was shattered. I had a damaged liver. My lungs were both partially collapsed and I had a traumatic brain injury, which put me on the edge of death.

GUPTA: Jacy fought back, refusing to give in.

GOOD: I wanted my life back. In college, I had the reputation that I was the one who was going to save the world.

GUPTA: Her call to action came after the driver who caused the accident wasn't convicted. There was no law against the use of cell phones.

GOOD: I spoke at a press conference in Pennsylvania trying to get a hand held ban and a texting ban. Finally it went into effect that texting and driving is illegal.

GUPTA: And now the 28-year-old also speaks around the country to raise awareness about the dangers of using a phone behind a wheel.

GOOD: I am so grateful that I still have everything that I do have, in spite of having lost so much. Part of life is getting hurt. None of us escape unscathed. I survived for a reason and with a purpose. I'm going to use my time on this planet to make some other lives a little bit better.

GUPTA: Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN, reporting.

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CUOMO: Heed the message. Heed the message.

PEREIRA: What a motivator.

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: So inspiring. A great report.

Back to our top story. ISIS is trying to lure the most impressionable and vulnerable, it turns out, into its ranks, children, as seen in this shocking new propaganda video. Why are more teenagers trying to join the terror group?

CUOMO: And an historic day for "Charlie Hebdo" defiantly releasing its first issue just one week after that terrible massacre. The cover's, of course, controversial. The question is, what else is in that magazine? We know. We will tell you.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) CUOMO: So ISIS has released a disturbing new video. It's propaganda. And it appears to show a young child executing two hostages. CNN cannot verify its authenticity. Hopefully it was staged. And, obviously, we're not going to show it to you. The point is, this is what this group is about. It is not some brave band of warriors. They routinely recruit kids and use their images.

This isn't something that only happens over there either. In Chicago, the mother of a teenager, accused of trying to join ISIS, sent the terror group a powerful message. Take a listen.

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ZARINE KHAN, MOTHER OF TEEN ARRESTED ON TERROR CHARGES: We condemn this violence in the strongest possible terms. We condemn the brutal tactics of ISIS and groups like it. And we condemn the brainwashing and recruiting of children through the use of social media and Internet. And we have a message for ISIS, Mr. Baghdadi and his fellow social media recruiters, leave our children alone.

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CUOMO: Leave our children alone. That is the reality. And that mother's going to appear on "AC 360" tonight. That's at 8:00 Eastern. So, of course, you're going to want to see that.

Let's discuss why they're doing this, how does this work for them? We've got CNN counterterrorism analyst Philip Mudd.

Thank you for joining us, Mr. Mudd.

Using kids, it doesn't make sense to me. It seems to me to be such an act of weakness. But why do they think it works for them?

PHILIP MUDD, CNN COUNTERTERRORISM ANALYST: Chris, it makes perfect sense to me. You have to understand, ISIS is not a terror group. That's a western perspective. ISIS is a revolutionary group that wants to change society. They want to own geography in places like Iraq and Syria, and as we just heard, moving into Afghanistan, change the role of women, education. They want to change culture and recruiting children is a way to change culture in the next generation.

Before you believe that this is odd, it's unusual, that it can't work, look at how this has happened around the world in the last few decades. Sri Lanka, we've seen efforts by this -- by militants. We've seen the same thing with abducting women in northern Nigeria by Boko Haram. We've seen this by the Taliban, trying to change the role again of women in education and society. So this is a group that's trying to stage a revolution. It's not a group that's solely focused on this narrow band of terrorism.

CUOMO: Is there a chance of backfire? You know, I mean you've been to these lands so many times. I have as well. These people love their kids just the way, you know, we do here. Is there a chance that they say, no, I don't want you to take your kid. I don't want you to make my kid a killer. I don't want you to make my kid a suicide bomber? MUDD: There is a chance of backfire, but it's a question of how much

time you have to wait before you see that effect. For example, we've seen a lot of success in Somalia, which I would have said in 2006, 2007 is a very significant threat. We had kids from Minneapolis going over to Somalia to become suicide bombers. With a lot of effort, U.S. intelligence, U.S. support, but mostly African union, on the ground military operations in Somalia, that wave of violence has been reversed by al Shabaab. The problem we have, Chris, is in the west we want to say, what's going to happen tomorrow? What's going to happen next week? In my experience, if you want to reverse this tide, you're talking about 2025, 2035. You're talking about a generation of military operations that are brutal to reverse what is not just a terror group, to reverse a cultural revolution that ISIS is trying to spark.

CUOMO: So how do you see it long term for a group like ISIS?

MUDD: This is an unpleasant conversation. Let me give you two characteristics that I would expect to see over -- not just because I'm looking at ISIS, but because I'm looking at experiences in places like Indonesia, the Philippines, again, Nigeria, Somalia. A couple of the characteristics. Overtime, believe it or not, there's going to have to be some conversation with some segment of ISIS about reconciliation. I'm not talking about this today. And for all the --

CUOMO: Reconciliation?

MUDD: That is exactly right. Let me tell you what I mean, Chris, because I'll get a lot of hate mail. I don't like ISIS. I'm perfectly happy to see drone strikes go after them. But over the course of time, if they represent a geographic space and if they represent some sentiment among the people, you're going to have to find a faction of ISIS, like we've looked at in the -- within the Taliban, for example, that says, I don't like this extreme violence. Maybe I can participate in some political process. Now, to be clear, that ain't happening today or tomorrow. That might be in 10 years, believe it or not.

Second and finally, Chris, let me tell you one thing that's going to happen in the interim. If you want to root out people who are recruiting and training child soldiers for the next generation, what I have seen in places like Cambodia, Sri Lanka, Nigeria, you will see, over the next years, tremendous human rights violations in Iraq as Iraqi forces -- and I know people will object to this, they'll say, no, no, it can't happen again. It will happen again. They can't just fight ISIS sort of in the battlefield. They're going to have to go in towns and villages and root them out. And I would predict that's going to lead to tremendous civilian casualties and human rights violations in the coming years.

CUOMO: Well, look, that's a horrible prospect. We, you know, we hope that you're not right.

MUDD: Right.

CUOMO: But this is your business. You've seen it before.

Let me ask you something quickly about Paris.

MUDD: Yes.

CUOMO: The concern is, the U.S. intel community went from saying, oh, no, this is a Parisian phenomenon with these guys, to saying, oh, they're on one of our no fly lists. What's the chance that they wind up being connected over here? Politicians were going sideways on us today, unknown, we don't know. What's the chance that this cell, these brothers, these guys over there, wind up having had contacts in the U.S.?

MUDD: First, Chris, if you want to talk about how politicians deal with terrorism in Washington, we need another show because I will go off on that. I'm tired of the way they talk about things like sleeper cells in the United States. Nonsense. If you want to talk about the issue of counterterrorism and data that might link the Paris cell to the United States, my guess is, if you get at least one or two hops out, that is one or two steps out from the terrorists looking at phone and e-mail data, you're going to have to find some linkage to the United States.

We've already seen it. We've seen allegations that one these individuals in Paris trained in Yemen and was somehow maybe even a roommate of the underwear bomber who attempted to take out an airliner over Detroit five or six years ago. We're going to see some linkages in the United States. The question is, how direct those linkages are. My guess is that they will be indirect, and whether they suggest there's some imminent threat here. But in the age of data in 2015, you're going to find some link, even if it's not direct, one or two steps out from these guys in Paris.

CUOMO: Philip Mudd, what you have to say isn't always easy to hear but it's important to hear. Thank you for joining us on NEW DAY, as always.

MUDD: Thank you.

CUOMO: Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: Well, the latest "Charlie Hebdo" newspaper is selling out across France. We'll take a look at the first issue since the Paris terror attack.

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PEREIRA: So the newest issue of Charlie Hebdo is now on newsstands around the world this morning. The surviving cartoonists and journalists lent a hand by their competitors to get that magazine, the one that is viewed as most historic, that most historic edition, to press.

So what exactly is inside it? Brian Stelter, our CNN senior media correspondent, has been on the streets of Paris getting some reaction. I also know you've been trying to get, since early this morning, your hands on one of the copies of this magazine and I sense you've had no success yet. BRIAN STELTER, CNN SENIOR MEDIA CORRESPONDENT : I'm empty handed,

Michaela. All of CNN Paris, all of our reporters and producers here, we only have one copy among all of us. That's how fast this magazine flew off newsstands and kiosks this morning. It was before sunrise that folks started queuing up in line, waiting to buy copies. And by the time the sun actually rose here around 8:00 a.m., the copies were basically gone. The distributor has said they're going to keep printing more. It was going to be 3 million; now the new number is 5 million. That's probably the starkest demonstration of how interested this country is in this issue.

PEREIRA: So what are people on the streets of Paris saying about it? What are the sellers saying about the magazine and selling out of it?

STELTER: Well, we haven't sensed any trepidation on the part of the sellers. And I've been curious about that, because as you know, this cover is of the Prophet Mohammed. Any depiction of the Prophet Mohammed is highly controversial and highly offensive to some Muslims.

I was just walking by actually out here. One person has brought the cover and placed it atop a mass of flowers here as a tribute to the fallen cartoonist. By the way, this new magazine, the cover and all the rest, is selling on eBay for hundreds of dollars. People are putting it online for sale. But I do think new issues, new copies of the issue, will start to become available tomorrow. So we might see more long lines tomorrow for the issue.

We talked to one person who said they've been to eight different newsstands in Paris this morning, trying to get a copy, and couldn't do it. Even some people who don't believe in the values or the opinions or in some cases the vile sorts of cartoons printed in the magazine do want to support it. We've heard that loud and clear today.

PEREIRA: So let's talk about what's inside. I know you've had a chance to look at a digital version. Is it sort of their standard lambasting everybody, religion of all kinds, but also a tribute to the writers who were lost and the cartoonists?

STELTER: It sure is. It's a doubling down of their points of view. This is a proudly secular magazine, rejecting all religions and mocking all religions, having a lot of fun, in their minds, with laughing at the Pope in the same way they laugh at Mohammed or they mock Islamic extremism. So all of that is there.

There's -- one of the few English cartoons is a riff on the phrase, "Keep calm and carry on." It says, "Keep calm and Charlie on." And there is a lot of appreciation that comes through in the pages for this country's and this world's outpouring of grief and emotion about last week's attacks. The magazine, the letter on the second page says Charlie has made a lot of new friends this week.

PEREIRA: Yes, expect to see that slogan you just mentioned on T- shirts and on memes around the Internet.

So talk to us here. Because folks in the U.S. are not going to be able to see the magazine in terms of get a copy of it. It won't be available here. Are you sensing that the momentum is going to last overseas and around the world for the magazine?

STELTER: You know, my wife was just saying that to me, Michaela. She's there in New York this morning; she was thinking, this is a little bit like the movie "The Interview". The controversy around that Sony comedy last month when it appeared for a while that it wasn't going to be seen. And of course then they figured out an online release strategy so it was seen around the world for anybody who wanted to.

And I have a feeling we will get to that point with this issue of the magazine. A lot of folks in the United States are curious to see it for themselves. And you're right, right now it's not on newsstands, it's not available. But I think a distribution strategy might be in the works down the road and so people might be able to get their hands on it in the future.

Now whether this momentum continues into the weeks and months, I think that's an open question. We know that the magazine has taken a week off, the staff has taken a week off. There's going to be funerals during that time and I expect some more grieving during that time. But then they will be back at work on be a new issue later this month.

PEREIRA: It's not all business as usual. They do have to, as you mentioned, deal with the trauma that they've incurred, loss of colleagues, the funerals, the mending, the healing. All of that.

I want to change topics ever slightly, if you will. Follow me here on this. We've been learning about a bit of a dust-up, some controversy, at Al Jazeera English, which has obviously an American counterpart here in the United States. The editor and executive producer sending out some sort a communique to the staff. Some are calling it an effort to minimize the Paris terror attacks. What are you hearing?

STELTER: That's right. And now Al Jazeera is doing damage control about that and saying that that was not the intent of this memo. But basically what happened, there was a series of e-mails internally that were never supposed to be seen by the public. They got leaked over the weekend and have continued to leak out ever since. And they do show this vigorous internal debate at Al Jazeera about how to characterize what happened here in Paris and whether it's appropriate to say, "We are all Charlie", whether that's an accurate slogan or if it really shows a divide.

So there's been a controversy inside the news network. And it's a real problem for them, because Al Jazeera is trying very hard not to be seen just as a Middle Eastern broadcaster, a broadcaster of the Arab world It wants to be seen in the United States and its channel in the United States has been very low rated for the past couple of years. They're trying to get traction and whenever a controversy like this happens, it's not good for Al Jazeera. They're trying to distance themselves.

PEREIRA: To that point, do you think it is going to have ill effects on that effort? Because, as you said, the numbers for them have been a challenge. And they are trying to grow this brand within the United States?

STELTER: They are. I've heard from a number of American employees at Al Jazeera who say it's a very difficult situation they're in right now working there because they do feel like there's pressure from the network's owners in Qatar to take a certain point of view. Obviously, a network like Al Jazeera wants to be seen as being unbiased and totally balanced. And so these e-mails seem to undermine that. And I'd recommend people check them out online because you do see a very vigorous debate internally about how to describe the attack and how to treat it.

PEREIRA: All right, Brian Stelter.

STELTER: I thikn one of the issues, Michaela, is whether it's appropriate to describe -- I'm sorry. A little bit of a satellite delay. I'll catch you next time.

PEREIRA: Oh, that's all right. There's a lot to say. We'll just wish you a -- we'll say good-bye until next time. Thanks so much for your reporting there.

STELTER: Thank you.

CUOMO: All right. So how about this? Once a criminal, always and in all ways a criminal, right? Wrong. We're going to show you an amazing thing that one young man did to change the cops' impressions of him and change the life of one of them. It is the Good Stuff.

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CUOMO: Come over here, Charlotte. This is a good one for you. You're going to want to see you. It's time for the Good Stuff. Today's edition is one of our newest cast members, Charlotte.

17-year-old Jamal Rutledge, now this kid, he's 17 years old. He's no stranger to the Fort Lauderdale police. OK, here he is. He's getting arrested. He's getting booked by police here on juvenile charges. He did bad things, criminal mischief, probation, stuff that you'll hopefully never know about hopefully.

But watch this, while that's happening, that officer, he collapses. No one else is around, just Jamal in his handcuffs, remember. So you know what he did? He kicked the chain link fence where he was. He started screaming and he alerted the other officers, come, come, come, there's a problem. The officers come. Turns out Franklin Foulks was having a heart attack. Police say if it wasn't for Jamal's quick thinking, he would have died.

And now they're going to honor him. Because, you see? You are what you do, but you're not always just what you do. He did a good thing. Isn't that nice?

CHARLOTTE: Uh-huh.

CUOMO: Would you have done that?

CHARLOTTE: Yes.

PEREIRA: Of course she would.

CUOMO: It's good to know. It's good to know.

PEREIRA: One of our colleague's daughters visiting.

CAMEROTA: That's great. Great Good Stuff.

CUOMO: Time for the NEWSROOM. Let's get you to Carol Costello. Carol?

CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: Thanks so much. Have a good day.

"NEWSROOM" starts now.