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Iran Nuclear Talks Push Past Deadline; Officials Deny Reports of Cell-Phone Video; Gov. Pence Vows to 'Fix' Religious Freedom Law. Aired 6-6:30a ET

Aired April 01, 2015 - 06:00   ET

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The State Department said that the talks would go on for another day.

[05:58:56] WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: The United States has not ruled out military force to prevent Iran from going nuclear.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Lufthansa now says it knew Andreas Lubitz suffered depression.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Cell-phone video from on board that plane.

JULIAN RECHELT, EDITOR-IN-CHIEF, "BILD" ONLINE: We hear more screaming, and then that is the end of the sequence.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The commanders do not believe these reports.

GOV. MIKE PENCE (R), INDIANA: I don't support discrimination against anyone.

BART HESTER (R), ARKANSAS STATE SENATE: This is about freedom of speech. This is not about discrimination.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is about whether liberty and justice for all will really be for all.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In Arkansas, a similar bill could soon be law.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I love him. Every class, I feel like it's church.

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: They say that you somehow manage to get them alone.

BIKRAM CHOUDHURY, YOGA GURU: I never assaulted them.

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ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo, Alisyn Camerota and Michaela Pereira.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning to you, and welcome to your NEW DAY. it's Wednesday, April 1, 6 a.m. in the east. The high stakes talks on Iran's nuclear program now in overtime this morning. They blew past that self-imposed deadline. And we're learning that three of six foreign ministers involved in the talks have left with significant hurdles remaining.

CAMEROTA: U.S. negotiators briefing President Obama late last night. So will all sides today agree to any deal or even a framework? We have this story covered the way only CNN can.

Let's begin with global affairs correspondent Elise Labott. She is live at the talks in Switzerland. What do we know at this hour, Elise?

ELISE LABOTT, CNN GLOBAL AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT: Well, Alisyn, negotiators worked throughout the night. They're meeting again today. They'll continue to have meetings. It seems as if there is still some key areas that are unresolved, although there has been a lot of progress.

We understand it's down to just a few areas of the text. But those are key things, Alisyn. And it's just making it more difficult if they don't agree today, to have that comprehensive deal later on.

And we know that, now that we've passed the deadline, if there's not something in the next 24 hours or so, Congress is going to threaten to impose sanctions against Iran. That will certainly scuttle any kind of deal. So the pressure is really on.

But we're talking about a very vague statement, even if one comes out today, because it's very clear there are still unresolved issues. It seems as if, at the best, they're agreeing to keep talking -- Chris.

CUOMO: All right, Elise, please keep us informed of any movement in the talks. And there is no question that President Obama has a lot riding on the Iran situation. The question is now, what if this plan to negotiate doesn't work?

Let's bring in CNN senior White House correspondent, Jim Acosta, with more -- Jim.

JIM ACOSTA, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Chris, the White House is adamant that President Obama is not going to accept a bad deal with Iran.

Last night the president held a video conference call with his national security team and with Secretary of State John Kerry, and energy secretary Ernest Moniz, who are leading the U.S. side of the talks in Switzerland.

At this point, administration officials cannot say whether or not they will reach a breakthrough at the negotiations. The one thing that White House press secretary Josh Earnest made clear to reporters yesterday is that the U.S. is prepared to walk away from these talks. He also said the option of military action against Iran is on the table, should these talks fail. And there's obviously a lot at stake for Secretary Kerry, as well as the president. As you mentioned, after the talks missed its deadline yesterday, the

Republican National Committee put out a statement, saying the president had crossed another red line. Guys, if you thought that the Republicans would give the president a break if these talks fail, guess again.

Back to you.

CAMEROTA: OK, Jim, thanks so much for that update.

Let's bring in now CNN's chief international correspondent, Christiane Amanpour.

Christiane, good morning. So tell us what your sources are telling you about where they are in the talks.

CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR, CNN CHIEF INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, a wire has just dropped from Reuters out of Switzerland, saying that unless -- this is from the Iranian point of view -- unless a framework for the lifting of all sanctions is in place, there will be no deal. And we've been reporting that for a long time.

Yesterday I spoke to one of the key negotiators from a previous period, but under President Rouhani, who said there has to be proportionality. That's where it's sticking in terms of the Iranian deal at the table there. They want to see a framework for these sanctions being lifted. And that is apparently not forthcoming. Because there is the United States. France has been also quite strict on the idea of not lifting all these sanctions in the same timeframe that Iran wants it. So that is where the sticking point is this morning, Alisyn.

CUOMO: More than just a sticking point, also, right? Because the alternative, Christiane, is if these negotiations fall flat, Congress is probably going to advance a new set of sanctions. So how is that playing into the leverage?

AMANPOUR: Well, look, none of this is great for being around the table. Obviously, people are trying to use as much leverage as they have on all sides: the United States, Europe, Congress, Israel. You know, Prime Minister Netanyahu and Speaker John Boehner are speaking right now in Jerusalem. They don't want this deal. That has been the sort of mood music around this -- these negotiations since they began. The number of people who don't want it to happen have been so, so loud, and those who do want it to happen have slightly been on the defensive.

The Iranians, according to the IAEA, which is the U.N. nuclear watchdog, have been keeping their end of the bargain since the interim deal went into effect and then was extended. And they want sanctions released. This is the sine qua non of the Iranian position. R&D in the future. How much of the stockpile of enriched urine young will stay in Iran, how much will be sent out or diluted.

But Iranian experts and people inside the negotiations who I talk to say that this is what they want. The sanctions is the biggest thing at this precise moment. And you've just seen this wire drop from Reuters. We haven't confirmed it, but that seems to be part of what they're saying now.

CAMEROTA: And Christiane, of course, all of this is set against this big cultural background. David Sanger wrote a very interesting article for "The New York times" this morning. And it gives you a real sort of fly-on-the-wall perspective about the cultural differences that he says are sort of causing a rift between the two sides.

Basically, that Americans are detail-oriented; they're transactional. And that Iranians deal in more symbolism. What do you think about the cultural differences getting in the way?

AMANPOUR: Well, look, symbolism on the one hand, yes. Because they want to see these negotiations succeed. And it is, you know, what President Rouhani and Foreign Secretary Zarif have brought to the table. Their government sort of depends on being able to better the life and the economy of the Iranians who voted for them. And as you know, in Iran there is a massive majority of people who voted for this moderate leadership.

So symbolism to an extent. But it's not just symbolism. It is about lifting sanctions. That is what their economy and their country has suffered from. So they want that gone.

When it comes to symbolism, I spoke to a former negotiator who said, "Look, for 35 years, there has been estrangement, hostility, outright enmity between the United States and Iran. This is the first time in 35 years, since the revolution, that they've had this amount of time together negotiating, talking to each other at personal and professional levels, and getting down to the serious business. But being so close together for so long, after so long estrangement."

CUOMO: Christiane, quickly...

AMANPOUR: So this is also a very incredible moment.

CUOMO: Christiane, when we're talking about the symbolism, you have what's happening when they're together, and then you have what's happening when they're not.

In terms of symbolism, what's going on in Yemen that's Iran driven. What's going on in Iraq in terms of what's Iran-driven. And then moving in to take ownership of the Iraqi fight there, what's going on in Syria. How is all of that contaminating the process at the table?

AMANPOUR: To be honest, I don't think it is. Because I think the negotiations around the table are, pure and simple, arms control negotiations. Kind of -- if you want to throw it back to the Soviet time, the United States and the Soviet Union had arms control agreements, while they disagreed on just about everything else that was going on in the world -- the Soviet sphere of influence, the American sphere of influence -- that was happening while there were arms control agreements on the table. So it is, I think, very separate, and each side has said that they're

keeping them very separate. Although there has been a little cross- pollination when it comes to Iraq, because Iran has backed the Shiite militias. They've had boots on the ground, so to speak, to try to push back ISIS. The United States has come in and bombed Tikrit areas, bombed the positions of ISIS; and they have helped a lot in the liberation of Tikrit. So there is a little -- you know, they're on the same page to an extent right now in the fight against ISIS. But all the other things, they're not.

CAMEROTA: Christiane, always great to get your perspective. Thanks so much.

MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: All right. Developing overnight, police denying claims that cell-phone video exists from inside Flight 9525, capturing the final moments before the jet crashed into the French Alps. This as Lufthansa now acknowledges it knew about the co- pilot's bout with severe depression during training.

CNN senior international correspondent Frederik Pleitgen is following all the newest developments for us live from Cologne, Germany -- Fred.

FREDERIK PLEITGEN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, and as far as that cell-phone video is concerned, Michaela, there certainly are a lot of questions that are out there.

The French prosecutor came out this morning with a statement saying that, so far, there has been no cell-phone video that has been used in the investigation. And he also said that, if anybody has any cell- phone video from inside the cabin, that that person needs to come forward immediately.

So there is a lot of criticism also out there of those media reports. It certainly is something that is very much playing out here in the public's view.

Let's have a look at what these two publications say that cell-phone video contains.

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PLEITGEN (voice-over): A chilling discovery purportedly pulled from the wreckage of Germanwings Flight 9525. Cell-phone video shot from inside the cabin, purportedly captures the chaos and horror of the final moments before the crash.

French magazine "Paris Match" and German newspaper "Bild" say they've seen the video, recovered from a memory card by an investigator, though a French official says the reports are, quote, "completely wrong" and "unwarranted."

The publications say from watching the video, it's disturbingly clear the passengers knew what was about to happen.

RECHELT: It's very shaky. It's -- it's very chaotic. But there are some things that are very much in line with what we know about the investigation so far.

PLEITGEN: According to "Bild" and "Paris Match," as the plane descend descends, screams can be heard with cries of "my God" in several languages.

Metallic bangs can be heard more than three times, which they believe is the captain trying to break his way back into the cockpit with a heavy object.

[06:10:06] Towards the end, the heavy shake, reports say, as the cabin abruptly jerks, presumably as the plane's right wing scrapes a mountain. The screams intensify, then silence.

Lufthansa's CEO visiting the crash site this morning to pay his respects. This just a day after the stunning revelation that Lufthansa knew Andreas Lubitz had a history of psychological problems before he deliberately crashed the jet. In 2009, Lubitz told his flight training school he suffered from, quote, "a previous episode of severe depression."

JIM PHILIPS, GERMAN PILOTS ASSOCIATION: If they withheld information intentionally, that's not good.

PLEITGEN: Lufthansa says Lubitz provided that information in medical documents he submitted to resume flight training. After taking a break for several months, he was cleared to fly shortly after.

CARSTEN SPOHR, CEO, LUFTHANSA: All the safety nets we're so proud of here, have not worked in this case.

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PLEITGEN: And guys, this very morning that Lufthansa CEO, Carsten Spohr, was close to the crash site; and once again, he did thank the French who were trying to work there on the crash site. He also once again apologized that this crash would have happened there and said that all of the victims' families would, of course, get Lufthansa's support.

He was also asked about that new information, that Lubitz had told the company that he was suffering from depression previously. He did not answer that question from reporters -- Chris.

CUOMO: All right, Fred, thank you very much.

From the quest to answer the question there to a very different kind of question back here at home. What kind of America are we becoming? Both sides in Indiana agree that is the question. And that's where the agreement ends.

The latest, Governor Mike Pence, who said he would not change the state's controversial new religious freedom law; now says he will consider efforts to clarify the law, so everyone understands it was never meant to allow discrimination against gays and lesbians. Despite the uproar there, Arkansas, approved a similar measure overnight. So let's get to CNN's Rosa Flores, live in Indianapolis with the

latest -- Rosa.

ROSA FLORES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, good morning.

Governor Pence telling reporters that this is all a perception issue that can be changed, that can be fixed by changing the language of the actual law. Opponents not so sure, saying that they're asking for a repeal and fearing that the bad perception is already casting a shadow on the Hoosier State.

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PENCE: Was I expecting this kind of backlash? Heavens no.

FLORES (voice-over): Today, Indiana's Republican governor gets closer to a, quote, "fix" for SB 101, the Religious Freedom Reformation Act. Opponents calling the law the latest attack to legalize discrimination against gays and lesbians.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We must repeal this offensive RFRA law.

FLORES: Governor Mike Pence's public appeal comes as the nationwide uproar continues. Those against it speaking out in protest. And Nike, one of the world's largest athletic apparel companies, joining the growing group of corporations condemning the state's action.

The White House blasting the governor on Tuesday, saying Pence tried to falsely suggest that Indiana's law simply mirrors a federal religious freedom law signed by President Bill Clinton in 1993.

JOSH EARNEST, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: This is a much more open- ended piece of legislation. That could reasonably be used to try to justify discriminating against somebody because of who they love.

FLORES: Pence says, though the bill's intent is not discrimination, he now wants a fix.

PENCE: I've come to the conclusion that it would be helpful to move legislation this week that makes it clear that this law does not give businesses a right to deny services to anyone.

FLORES: But the governor still says he won't sign legislation that includes protections based on sexual orientation.

(on camera): Will it stand in court, do you think?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know, I don't want to start going into our legal analysis.

FLORES (voice-over): Indiana's attorney general says he'll take what he's heard from protesters back to the capital as lawmakers work on the fix. But wouldn't discuss any legal specifics.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We shall overcome!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We shall overcome!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We shall overcome!

FLORES: Despite national outcry, Arkansas just passed a similar bill, and Georgia is considering one as well. Republican governors in both states have said, if the bill hits their desk, they'll sign it.

HESTER (R): This bill is not about discrimination. This bill is about the First Amendment person's individual right to believe. And your rights stop where someone else's rights start.

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FLORES: Now the speaker of the house telling CNN that he is crafting the fix, talking to activist groups, other stakeholders about the particular language. And hear this: that that language could be finalized as early as today or tomorrow -- Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: OK, Rosa. Thanks so much for that update.

Now to an update in Iraq. Iraqi forces declaring victory in their battle against ISIS for control of Tikrit. But even though Iraq's prime minister says they've retaken control, pockets of fighting remain as Iraqi forces and Shiite militias work to clear the battle zone. Tikrit had been under ISIS control since June.

[17:15:18] PEREIRA: A new day in Nigeria, perhaps. Nigeria has a new president. The opposition candidate, retired Major General Muhammadu Buhari, defeating incumbent Goodluck Jonathan by about two million votes. After calling the president-elect, Jonathan issued a statement thanking Nigerians for the, quote, "great opportunity" to lead the country. One of the biggest challenges, obviously, facing the 72- year-old Buhari will be Boko Haram's continued campaign of terror.

CUOMO: Legend Joni Mitchell is in intensive care this morning at a California hospital. Paramedics were called to the 71-year-old singer-songwriter's home in L.A. They found her unconscious there. Now, a message posted overnight on Joni's website says she's now awake, in good spirits and undergoing testing. The message asks fans to light a candle, sing a song, and send all good wishes her way.

PEREIRA: We wish her well. A Canadian treasure, very proud of her.

CAMEROTA: We're going to monitor that.

PEREIRA: Yes.

CUOMO: All right. So the story of Indiana Governor Mike Pence continues. Now he's saying he wants clarification. I guess that's short of a fix. But it certainly concerns this religious freedom law, and he's clearly not happy about the fallout. So what is this fix? And will it be enough or too little too late?

CAMEROTA: Also a CNN exclusive to show you, our one-on-one interview with yoga guru, Bikram Choudhury. He's responding for the first time to allegations from a half a dozen women, claiming that he sexually assaulted them.

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CHOUDHURY: And this is the reward? I'm a rapist? Shame of your culture, western culture.

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CAMEROTA: Stay tuned for that exclusive interview, ahead on NEW DAY.

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[06:20:29] CUOMO: All right. Indiana's governor now says that he is open to a clarification of his state's religious freedom law. Clarify probably being a step short of fixing, which he says he doesn't need to do. But the problem is clear: People believe that it is opening the door to discriminating against the LGBT community.

Did you know there are 82 similar measures up for consideration across the country? And several 2016 hopefuls saying that they support the idea of Indiana's law, fixed or not.

So let's bring in Richard Socarides, former senior advisor to President Clinton and a Democratic strategist; and Mr. Ben Ferguson, friend of the show, CNN political commentator and host of "The Ben Ferguson Show."

Gentlemen, good to have you both.

BEN FERGUSON, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Good morning.

CUOMO: Let me just -- let me just clarify one thing before we get into the points of debate of what needs to happen next, which is there is an assertion that this law is simply the federal law from 1993 that Bill Clinton signed, moved into the state realm, because the Supreme Court said the state needed to own this law. That is not necessarily true, and here's why. Put up the graphic. OK?

Federal law on one side, Indiana on the other side. Federal law was designed to protect rituals of religious minorities, specifically Native Americans using peyote. Peyote got caught up in this bundle of drugs that were outlawed. The Natives said that this is part of their religion, went to the Supreme Court. That is what birthed this law.

The Indiana law flips that, and it is really designed to protect majority religious groups in the form of businesses that are allowed to be religious actors under the law. Very different.

Under federal law, you must show a substantial burden to your religious exercise. Indiana, burden or likely burden, which means you don't even have to be harmed yet; you just think you may be.

Government must be a party. What does that mean? That's key. It was supposed to stop state action, the government, from infringing on your rights of religious exercise. Here, it can be a private party. That's a major concern. That means when someone doesn't like something, they can sue you about it, and that this extends protection to those suits.

And the last one, anti-discrimination amendment was rejected, which means that, under the Indiana law -- that part of the graphic is wrong. Under the Indiana law, the Democrats in the general assembly said, "Hey, we should add this provision that says this law can't be used to discriminate," and it was rejected. All right. That was never an issue under the federal law.

All right. So that's -- those are the facts about the two laws. Now let's talk what should happen next. Ben Ferguson...

FERGUSON: Yes.

CUOMO: ... the governor says, "We want to clarify not fix." Semantics aside, what's the right thing to do?

FERGUSON: I think they need a fix. I think he realized that this has become such a bad P.R. stigma for the state, even though other states have done virtually the same exact thing. And to clarify it, is probably the right decision moving forward. The big issue that...

CUOMO: Clarify it how?

FERGUSON: Well, clarify by saying, "Look, if you are gay or lesbian, and you walk into a business, you can't be kicked out just because you're gay or lesbian."

Here is the other issue, though. Does this infringe on the rights of a business owner to stand up for what they believe in? A great example of that would be this: if you own a gay bar and someone comes in and says, "I want to rent your facility for a traditional marriage rally," should you have the right to say, "That goes against my beliefs. I'm not going to rent my private business to you"? The same way that if a KKK member comes in and says, "I want a birthday cake made to celebrate the birth of the KKK," should a baker, regardless of the color of their skin, be able to say, "I am not going to make that cake?"

It also would apply to a Christian who is asked to make a wedding cake for a gay marriage.

CUOMO: Got you. Got you. Socarides, Ferguson is flipping the script on you and is putting the onus on how would you like it if it happened to you? What's your response?

RICHARD SOCARIDES, FORMER SENIOR ADVISOR TO PRESIDENT CLINTON: Well, first of all, I would say with respect to the law that nothing short of an outright repeal of this law...

CUOMO: Not going to happen.

SOCARIDES: ... is going to be acceptable to the American businesses, the American businesses...

CUOMO: No way.

SOCARIDES: ... the American business that are speaking out. I mean, more and more businesses last night came out against this law.

CUOMO: Absolutely. Unprecedented.

SOCARIDES: I think Indiana is going to be in -- is going to be in an untenable position, unless they repeal...

CUOMO: What about what Ferguson says?

SOCARIDES: Well, I think, you know, these examples, you can come up with all kinds of crazy examples. I think the...

FERGUSON: They're not crazy. They've happened, John [SIC].

SOCARIDES: The differences that you laid out at the top of the segment about how this law is different from the federal law are important.

But I think most important is the fact that this law came up in a certain context. Context is very important, and laws convey values.

This law comes up in a context where the Supreme Court is about to rule that gay marriage needs to be allowed in all 50 states.

CUOMO: In May.

[06:25:04] SOCARIDES: And we all know what Indiana was trying to do. They were trying to give businesses in their state an opportunity to discriminate against loving couples who wanted to get married once the Supreme Court decision came down.

FERGUSON: John [SIC].

SOCARIDES: This happens in a context. You have to interpret everything that happens in a context.

CUOMO: Ben.

FERGUSON: The context, though, is this: Does a private business have the right to have their moral beliefs and practice those beliefs when it comes to business? Recently...

CUOMO: Ben, one second, because you need to clarify something for us. Can you clarify why you link a belief with a practice? Because that's what this law was always about. Was is it stopping you or burdening your practice of a religion? How does this burden your practice, as opposed to just being offensive to your ideas, which would not be easily protected?

FERGUSON: If I -- if I have a venue that is practicing, and I use it on my faith, if I am having a Christian business, I should be able to hold true to those standards, without having to worry that I'm going to be sued and my business is going to be shut down because I stand up for my moral beliefs.

The same way that you may not even be a religious belief. But you might have someone comes in that wants you to participate in something that goes against what you believe in as an individual, regardless of religion. You as a private business should have the right to say, "I do not want to participate in this event." This is a protection for multiple people, and unfortunately, it's being distorted in a way that I think is incredibly unfair.

SOCARIDES: Ben -- Ben, but you're trying now to have an academic debate about this. And the fact remains and the problem for Governor...

FERGUSON: It is an academic debate.

SOCARIDES: But the problem for Governor Pence is, is now -- he's now getting up and saying, "This was never our intention to discriminate." But it is so clear, the record is so clear -- and I hate to say this about the man, but the man is just lying at this point. I mean, it is so clear what they were trying to do.

FERGUSON: What did he lie on?

SOCARIDES: It is so clear what they were trying to do. Because if you look at the legislative history of this bill, this is exactly what they were trying to do. They saw that Indiana was one of the 13 states that remain where gay marriage is not permitted. It was coming this summer. They needed to do something. And now he's saying that, "It was never our intention. It was never our intention to discriminate against anybody."

CUOMO: Let's see where they go with it, because that will be a reflection of intentions, as well.

Richard Socarides, Ben Ferguson, let's leave this part of it here for now. We'll pick it up on Twitter, Ben. And I want to start with send me a tweet about your explanation of why this fits into an extension of "No shirt, no shoes, no service." No gays, as an extension of that. Because it sounds like you're treating gays like a hygiene issue. So let's start with that.

FERGUSON: I don't think so.

CUOMO: Send that tweet, though. We'll pick it up online.

FERGUSON: Let me say...

CUOMO: We'll pick it up online.

FERGUSON: Let me say this, though.

CUOMO: Finish and then we've got to go.

FERGUSON: If someone comes into your business...

CUOMO: Yes.

FERGUSON: ... and they want to have a racist rally, should you, Chris, be able to say, "I am not going to participate in your racist rally and allow you to rent my business?" I think you would want to say no to that.

CUOMO: Pick it up online. Send me the tweet. We'll get the dialogue going. Thanks for being on here.

SOCARIDES: Thanks.

CUOMO: Also, this is about you. That's why we're going to do it online. So you can tweet us, @NewDay, or go to Facebook.com/NewDay. And we'll continue the conversation.

We're going to cover this story from all angles throughout the morning. We're going to have Indiana's controversial measure with state lawmakers from both sides of the aisle. And then we'll know what's going to happen next. And in the next hour, Arkansas just passed the same law. Will the governor approve it? We have a lawmaker who proposed that bill on to make the case -- Mick.

PEREIRA: All right. We'll dig into all that. Looking forward to it, Chris.

Meanwhile, new developments in the Germanwings crash investigation. Lufthansa originally said the co-pilot was 100 percent fit to fly, nothing off in his background. Now a very different tune from the airline. Next we're going to tell you about an email from six years ago that very well could have prevented the crash of 9525.

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