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Trouble For Bush In Iowa; Hillary Calls For Path To Full And Equal Citizenship; Taya Kyle Talks "American Wife"; Wells Fargo Sued Over Unauthorized Accounts. Aired 7:30-8a ET

Aired May 06, 2015 - 07:30   ET

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ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN: We are following breaking news this morning. A preliminary report out just hours ago finds that the co-pilot who crashed Flight 9525 into the French Alps rehearsed his suicide mission. The BEA report finds the co-pilot tried dropping altitude on the outbound flight from Dusseldorf to Barcelona hours before the crash that killed 150 people. The report says that co-pilot set the autopilot to 100 feet five separate times while he was alone in the cockpit.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: One of the men who opened fire outside a Muhammad cartoon contest in Texas did communicate with two known terrorists, one from Al Shabaab, the other from ISIS, which claimed responsibility for the attack although it is still unclear whether the group actually ordered it directly. Intelligence officials are combing through evidence from the Phoenix home of the two gunmen.

MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: Quite a story here. Workers at a Pizza Hut in Avon Park, Florida, never saw an order like this. It read one small hand tossed pizza with pepperoni and call 911, it turns out a woman being held hostage by her boyfriend used the Pizza Hut cell phone app to send a signal for help.

So the restaurant called police. They went to the address on the order and arrested her 26-year-old boyfriend. The woman and her three children are safe, my goodness.

CAMEROTA: Wow. Thank goodness they took it seriously. There are so many pranks called into pizza places.

PEREIRA: I know.

CAMEROTA: Thank goodness they took it seriously.

CUOMO: I love it. One more good thing about pizza.

CAMEROTA: Good point, one more reason to order it. Let's get to "Inside Politics" on NEW DAY now with John King. Good morning, John.

JOHN KING, CNN HOST, "INSIDE POLITICS": Good morning to you as well. A very busy day in politics, we're going to start with a brand new poll in Iowa of the Republican presidential contenders.

With me to share their reporting and their insights are Julie Pace of the "Associated Press" and Ron Fournier of "National Journal."

Look at this brand new poll in Iowa, Scott Walker at the top of the pack, 21 percent the Quinnipiac poll, Rand Paul at 13 percent. Marco Rubio is also 13 percent, Ted Cruz 12 percent, Mike Huckabee 11 percent.

Then we get into the single digits, a guy named Jeb Bush down there at 5 percent when you look at this. Now, there is no overwhelming front- runner. You'd have to say Scott Walker is the leader.

I don't know if we'd call him the front-runner in Iowa right now, but Jeb Bush down from the last poll. Does he have a problem here?

RON FOURNIER, "NATIONAL JOURNAL": Yes. In Iowa, look, first of all, you have to understand that the Republican Party in Iowa has really moved to the right. A guy, Steve Sheffler, is now considered to be a rhino in the Republican Party in Iowa.

So what's really interesting to me about that poll is if look at the people who say they would not vote for a candidate, 10 percent would not vote for Rand Paul, he really irritated some people, his dad did in the Republican Party.

The 20 percent won't vote for Chris Christie under any circumstances, 25 percent in Iowa Republicans are saying they won't vote for Jeb Bush under any condition. That's a big problem.

KING: What they're getting is they're getting, you know, through whether it's their e-mails, Twitter, Facebook's, conservative blogs they log onto, you have a much more organized right saying we don't like Jeb Bush on common core education standards.

We don't like Jeb Bush on immigration issues because he has said path to citizenship and now he said maybe legal status. Here's the issue for Jeb Bush.

If he can't win Iowa, New Hampshire has never been kind to the Bush family. His dad got beat by Pat Buchanan there. His brother got beat by John McCain there. What happens?

JULIE PACE, "ASSOCIATED PRESS": Jeb Bush has to basically make a decision. This is a decision that other candidates in the Republican field have faced before. Does he essentially give up on Iowa and turn his attention fully to New Hampshire?

It's risky because you never know what's going to happen in Iowa and who's going to come out of that with momentum to allow them to continue to play down the line.

And putting all of your chips on one state and saying, you know, if I can win New Hampshire, I can continue on is very risky. We've seen candidates do this in the past.

KING: But if the central tenant of your candidacy or one is I love my party, but we're wrong on a couple issues, the base is wrong on a couple issues, don't you have to make an argument in the place where the party has drifted to the right and take your chances and try to convince those voters we want to take the White House back, we want to be a national political party again at the presidential level, we need to change our way.

FOURNIER: Yes, but it's not about convincing all Iowa voters, it's about showing you have a sense of authenticity which you can then throw up against Hillary Clinton. It's to make yourself part of the conversation while everyone else is focused on Iowa so you're still standing in New Hampshire, South Carolina. Remember, it's not like going to dry up on him.

KING: He'll have the money. We could well have a long protracted Republican race like we had in 2008 on the democratic side. Speaking of the Democratic side and speaking of the immigration issue, Hillary Clinton is the far away front-runner. We'll back that up in just a minute.

She's in Nevada yesterday and she knows it, she knows, number one, she wants to keep the Obama coalition together. She knows, number two, the more she talks about immigration, the more likely to remind Republicans and stoke the debate within the Republican Party. Listen.

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HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We can't wait any longer for a path to full and equal citizenship. Now, this is where I differ with everybody on the Republican Party side.

Make no mistakes today not a single Republican candidate announced or potential is clearly and consistently supporting a path to citizenship. Not one. When they talk about legal status, that is code for second class status.

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[07:35:11] KING: Like her or not that's smart politics and number one, it stokes the Republican fight. Number two, she is sitting in Nevada used to be a swing state, but a Democratic state in the last couple of cycles.

New Mexico used to be a swing state and moving Democratic the last couple cycles. We could go on and on. If the Latino population is growing in your state, guess what? The presidential politics is turning blue.

PACE: Hillary Clinton laid down a really tough marker there. She was to the left of President Obama on this saying not only does she want to have citizenship through legislation, but she suggested she would even be willing to do that through executive actions.

When she's talking about the Republican field, the person she's really talking about there is Jeb Bush because Jeb Bush has talked about how he would be willing to look for legal status for people, who are in this country illegally, but he has not talked as clearly about citizenship. She's saying she would go that far. FOURNIER: I agree. It's smart politics. I also think personally it's the right thing to do. She's on the right side of the history. We can't do what the Republicans want to do on immigration, this country's changing too much.

I do want to look beyond the election though and I wonder what is it about her past, what it is about her current positions, what is it about her makeup as a person that if she did become president she would actually get this done. Obama wasn't able to get it done. What could she do differently as a leader?

KING: I think that's part of the case whoever the nominee is on either side's going to have to make to the American people after years and years of dysfunction in a broken Washington how will I be different, can I be different?

It's still going to have an evenly divided Congress. Let's look at interesting poll numbers. Here's the new granite state poll this morning, Hillary Clinton is far and away the front runner among Democrats, 51 percent in New Hampshire among Democrats.

Elizabeth Warren is not running, she's at 20 percent. Bernie Sanders is running. He is at 13. Keep an eye on that number, the New York governor, Andrew Cuomo at 3 percent.

The big surprise for me here is that Joe Biden has fallen even more to 2 percent. I think most Democrats have now processed she's in. He's not going to run. I don't think that's anti-Joe Biden, just a reflection he's unlikely to run.

She's far and away the front runner in New Hampshire. We'll watch to see if those numbers change, watch Bernie Sanders, watch Lincoln Chafee, watch Jim Webb, the guys running at the moment and Governor O'Malley as well.

Here's what gets me. This is proof to me that number one, Hillary Clinton is unlike anybody else in this race because she's been with us so long and people think they know her so well.

And number two, polls are interesting, polls are helpful, but depending on how you ask a question even a slight change in a question gets a different answer.

Here's the "New York Times"/CBS poll out this morning, is Hillary Clinton honest and trustworthy, 48 percent say yes, 45 percent say no. That's not great. That's an evenly divided country, but in an evenly divided political country that's about what you might expect, 48 yes, 45 no.

NBC/"The Wall Street Journal" asked the question this way, is Hillary Clinton honest and straightforward? A little different in the question there, we've talked about the private e-mail server. We've been talking about the Clinton Foundation donations.

Only 25 percent rate her as good or very good on honest and straightforward and about half who'd say she's honest and trustworthy if you compare the other poll.

FOURNIER: Right. I'm struck by the fact that you have Clinton loyalists on Twitter right now bragging about the "New York Times" poll and say, OK, they've won and they've gotten past the scandal.

I think reporters and pundits need to keep two questions in mind when you're looking at a scandal like this, a controversy like this. One what is the effect on the campaign and depending on what poll you're looking at.

Either it's had an impact or it hasn't. Good debate to have. But also what does it reflect about the candidate as a potential leader, going back to my previous point.

If you ask that question, clearly we're seeing a candidate who right now is not showing us transparency, accountability or high level of ethical standards.

Those are things we should be factoring in as well especially reporters. We shouldn't look at this, as you know, the polls go her way that doesn't necessarily mean we should stop reporting on it.

And the Clinton people certainly shouldn't take any solace because they haven't gotten beyond those fundamental questions of leadership.

PACE: What I think it's interesting when you look at the numbers and compare them side by side is that even though perhaps half of voters don't think she's some combination of honest, trustworthy, straightforward. She is still far and away the Democratic choice in this primary season.

There is no indication that Elizabeth Warren, Joe Biden, anyone else is going to seriously challenge her. The party is all in regardless of honesty and trustworthiness. It's kind of a sad situation actually.

KING: Well, it's an interesting situation. Number one, she's a unique candidate. She's been with us so long and Alisyn as we get back to you in New York, I think if she has the resources, doesn't have a competitive challenger right now.

They're going to spend a lot of their dimes looking at that 25 percent who view her as honest and straightforward and try to shore their weaknesses as they go forward because in a campaign, she has a lot of good numbers, but that one there that's the equivalent of a five-alarm fire.

CAMEROTA: OK, got it. Thanks for that insight, John. Stick around because we have a special segment coming up. The widow of "American Sniper" Chris Kyle is going to open up about the devastating moments after she learned that her husband was killed. Taya Kyle has a new memoir out and she joins us here to talk about it next. We'll be right back.

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PEREIRA: The bestselling book and blockbuster film "American Sniper" centered on the life of Navy SEAL sniper, Chris Kyle. Kyle was murdered two years ago and now for the very first time his widow is taking the world inside their marriage and how she grieved his death in a new memoir entitled "American Wife, Memoir of Love, War, Faith and Renewal."

Taya Kyle joins us now. What a pleasure to meet you. Your strength has impressed so many, me included. We know the story well. We've watched it on film with Bradley Cooper.

TAYA KYLE, WIDOW OF CHRIS KYLE: Right.

PEREIRA: We've seen the book that your husband wrote, but this is your story.

KYLE: Right.

PEREIRA: This is your vision. This is your view of the world according to you and Kyle.

KYLE: Right.

PEREIRA: You go very intimately into that world. Was that a hard thing to do? And why did you decide to do that?

KYLE: I think it is hard in some ways because it leaves you very vulnerable. But the other side of that coin is that why do it if you're not going to be raw and really share your story?

I think the healing comes from people being able to relate enough so that they can look at the story and see components of their own life in it and also see it from just one step removed, you know, from an outsiders perspective.

[07:45:08] PEREIRA: Did you do it for healing, Taya?

KYLE: No, I did not do it for healing. I found that I was almost surprised and there are times that I would talk to the co-author of the book, when I would talk to him sometimes, it would be so emotional and heart wrenching.

And I would get off the phone and feel like maybe a little bit of a weight had been lifted. So I think sometimes knowing that you're preserving a memory allows you to not walk around obsessively carrying it too.

PEREIRA: Yes. It does. It lightens your load. We know that for Chris writing his book, his memoir he wrote with the same co-writer, it actually scratched the wound. It opened the wound again.

KYLE: Right.

PEREIRA: Did it do that for you? KYLE: It did for "American Sniper" it did, for both of us. It was not therapeutic, just painful, right, but for American wife it was just a mix. And I was in the middle of such a, you know, difficult time obviously of grieving and then also different business issues and different things with the kids. And it just, I think it forced me to deal with things sometimes too.

PEREIRA: Yes.

KYLE: Which is probably good and hard.

PEREIRA: Grief is such a strange thing. It has its own timing. There's no sort of manual for it.

KYLE: It does. Right.

PEREIRA: We all do it differently. Forgive me for asking, but I want to take you back to the day that you found out Chris was dead, the day he died. You had probably prepared yourself for the eventuality or possibility that he could die overseas serving our country.

KYLE: Right.

PEREIRA: The idea of him dying at home in such a horrible way never had occurred to you.

KYLE: No. And, you know, I think one of the things I'm painfully aware that people die every day for various reasons. I think the most horrifying thing is that he was murdered and his friend was murdered when they were trying to help somebody.

The person they were trying to help turns a gun on them in a way they don't even see it coming. That to me was what was most shocking and horrifying and it's the hardest thing to get my head around.

PEREIRA: Well, you've had so many chances to have to do that. You've sat through two trials now, the defamation lawsuit against -- from Jesse Ventura against Chris's estate and Eddie Ray Roth's murder trial. That is losing out loud in the most painfully obvious way. What did you do to get through those times?

KYLE: I think the best thing that's helped me through all of these different things are my friends that are very warm and supportive. And, you know, they don't have an opinion on how I should do things. They just kind of got your back and family certainly. And for me, my faith is --

PEREIRA: I see the cross on your chest.

KYLE: Right. It is the reason that I'm OK and I believe that God puts people in your path too that will help you and provide whatever it is that you need because it's ever changing. And like you said you can't predict what you're going to need in those times because I've never been through those things before.

PEREIRA: Has justice been served do you believe? KYLE: With the murder trial I think absolutely. I feel like those people on the jury had a really difficult job, honestly, to differentiate and to try to listen to things that really are heart wrenching but, yes, absolutely.

They got it right and the prosecution, they're topnotch. I'm telling you, those lawyers -- only because, yes, they had a good case, but they dotted every I, crossed every t, left no stone unturned, really did just a good job.

PEREIRA: Taya Kyle, your book is going to inspire so many.

KYLE: Thank you for that.

PEREIRA: And help many through a difficult time of grieving their own loss. Thank you so much for sharing with us and the world and thanks for visiting us on NEW DAY.

KYLE: Thank you for having me.

PEREIRA: Chris.

CUOMO: All right, Mich, another story to watch this morning, Wells Fargo is under fire. The city of Los Angeles is suing the banking giant accusing it of fraud. Its own customers are the alleged victims. We'll tell you what's going on.

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CUOMO: It is time for CNN money now, and that means chief business correspondent, Christine Romans is here. Christine has news about banks behaving badly this morning. What is it?

CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CHIEF BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: It's Wells Fargo sued, Chris, over sketchy sales tactics. The city of Los Angeles said Wells Fargo pressured its employees to meet unrealistic quotas and that meant opening accounts and opening credit cards for customers without their permission. Wells Fargo did not comment on these unauthorized accounts, but promised to defend itself from the allegations.

Oil prices are rising. U.S. crude oil is back up to 60 bucks a barrel that's the highest so far this year. Oil collapsed because of supply, but prices are creeping up as production slows and yes, that means higher gas prices at the pump.

In today's NEW DAY, new you, some news this morning about weight loss. Shopping lists may be a useful tool to help control your weight. A brand-new study looks at low-income individuals in food deserts, places where it's hard to find fresh and healthy food that is affordable.

It turns out people who used shopping list were more likely to eat better and be thinner, why? Well, first of all, grocery lists serve as memory aids and it's good to plan ahead and make good decisions.

Next, lists prevented impulse purchases like snacks and sweets, and finally lists help you eat healthy and stick to a budget, a common complaint, healthy food is too expensive, but lists can help budget for good food and not leave room for the junk.

CAMEROTA: Thank you.

All right, back to our breaking news now because that Germanwings co- pilot, who crashed Flight 9525 into the French Alps rehearsed his suicide mission earlier in the day. The bombshell new findings at the top of the hour.

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CAMEROTA: The co-pilot who crashed Flight 9525 into French Alps rehearsed the suicide mission.

CUOMO: He set the auto pilot to 100 feet five different times.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The controller would have no different idea.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: An attempted terrorist attack was foiled.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have individuals who never have been part of a group, but just because of the ideology, I will get a vested weapon of attack.

CLINTON: I will fight for comprehensive immigration reform and a path to citizenship.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She has been in politics all her life and a lot of people are tired of that.

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CUOMO: Good morning. Welcome to your NEW DAY. It's Wednesday, May 6th, 8:00 in the east, and we do have breaking news, a major development on the crash of Flight 9525.

A co-pilot who crashed that Germanwings plane into the French Alps took his previous flights hours earlier for a dry run, a rehearsal according to a preliminary report from French investigators.

CAMEROTA: This report is just out this morning and it finds the co- pilot reset the auto pilot on an earlier flight to just 100 feet and he did it five times.

With all the breaking developments for us is CNN senior international correspondent, Frederik Pleitgen. He is live in London. I know you've poured through this report. Fred, what have you found? FREDERIK PLEITGEN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Alisyn, there is many remarkable things in this report, but certainly that dry run is the thing that stands out, and the interesting thing about it is that the scenario that he went through in that would-be dry run was exactly the same as on that fatal flight.