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Source: Joyce Mitchell Warned Husband of Danger; Tropical Storm Weakens, Dumping Heavy Rain in Texas; Teen Who Lost Arm in Shark Attack Speaks Out; Warriors Beat Cavaliers to Win NBC Title; Donald Trump the Ross Perot of 2016 Race? Aired 6-6:30a ET

Aired June 17, 2015 - 06:00   ET

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Despite more than 1,000 leads, still no sign of Richard Matt and David Sweat.

[05:58:55] UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Joyce Mitchell warned her husband, Lyle Mitchell, that he was in danger.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sees her husband for the first time since her arrest.

STEPHEN JOHNSTON, DEFENSE ATTORNEY FOR MITCHELL: He says that he's standing by her.

MATT LAUER, CO-HOST, NBC'S "THE TODAY SHOW": Are you an African- American woman?

RACHEL DOLEZAL, FORMER HEAD OF NAACP IN SPOKANE: I identify as black.

RUTHANN DOLEZAL, MOTHER OF RACHEL DOLEZAL: It's not the Rachel we used to know.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's a lie! I don't believe this term of "transracial."

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I am officially running for president of the United States!

The American dream is dead.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Golden State Warriors are the 2015 NBA champions. Their first title in 40 years!

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ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY, with Chris Cuomo, Alisyn Camerota and Michaela Pereira.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Now that is the city as it sets forth. You see that?

Good morning. Welcome to your NEW DAY. It is Wednesday, June 17, 6 a.m. in the east.

Authorities are now zeroing in on who else helped two murderers escape from a New York maximum security prison, expanding their focus inside and outside the prison. Other inmates causing distractions, other staff. How big was the plot and why would anyone help?

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: This as Joyce Mitchell, the prison worker who allegedly helped the killers escape, gets a jailhouse visit from her husband. How much did he know about the plot?

CNN's Alexandra Field is live in Dannemora with all the latest. Alexandra, what do you know this morning?

ALEXANDRA FIELD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Alisyn.

It's been 12 days since the two convicted killers broke out of this prison. A 16-square-mile search area has been covered. Authorities have come up dry. So this morning, they have removed nearby roadblocks, and police say they'll be pursuing leads that could come from any direction.

After more than 1,000 leads, authorities are expanding and shifting their search around upstate New York.

JOHN CUTT, FORMER HEAD, NORTHEAST FUGITIVE INVESTIGATION DIVISION: These are criminals. They are going to rely on what they know best. So there's been no reports of any carjackings, any break- ins. That's not to say that they might not be holding someone at bay in a house somewhere.

FIELD: Former prison employee Joyce Mitchell, who investigators say gave the inmates, Richard Matt and David Sweat, tools to escape, is feeling the weight of her actions, according to her attorney.

JOHNSTON: She's distraught. She's very upset. She's very weepy.

FIELD: Mitchell's husband, Lyle, worked in the same tailoring block inside the prison. He spent an hour, visiting Mitchell in jail and had a private, unmonitored conversation. Officials say she appeared to be comforted by the visit, and he appeared supportive.

JOHNSON: All I know is that he says that he's standing by her. So that's what he told me when I spoke to him.

FIELD: But Lyle's lawyer says he has no plans to testify on her behalf.

While both worked at the tailor shop, Mitchell had a sexual relationship with 49-year-old Richard Matt, dating as far back as 2013. A source with direct knowledge of the investigation also tells CNN Joyce Mitchell was aware of a plot to kill her husband by the prisoners. And she warned him that his life could be in danger.

Leading up to the elaborate escape, investigators say Mitchell may have agreed to be the duo's getaway driver after Matt and/or Sweat then threatened both her and her husband.

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FIELD: Authorities still searching for two very dangerous men, following leads in every direction. At the same time, investigators are saying they haven't ruled out whether other employees could have played some role. That's one question they/re looking into. They're also looking at whether some of the prisoners, some of the inmates inside the prison may have helped by creating a distraction as the two men got out of here -- Chris.

CUOMO: All possibilities. The key phrase is, they are looking.

Alexandra, thank you very much.

All right. We have some good news. The National Hurricane Center downgrades Tropical Storm Bill to a depression overnight. The bad news is, Texas is taking heavy rain 24 hours and counting. And they now face a new threat.

CNN meteorologist Jennifer Gray is live in Houston. What is the threat and what's the situation?

JENNIFER GRAY, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Yes, Chris, well, the threat isn't over, even though Houston fared very well during the storm, receives less than two and a half inches of rain. Very minimal flooding across the city.

We were basically sandwiched right in between two of those rain bands throughout much of the day. And that's why we didn't get as much rainfall. However, areas just to our west are under flood watches right now. In fact, flood watches are across much of Texas right now.

And you have to keep in mind that all of this water is going to flow into those creeks, those rivers that are filled to capacity across the state. And so it's going to take four and five days for some of those rivers to crest. In fact, Brazos River just to our west is going to crest at major flood stage in the next four or five days. So that's one to watch.

As this storm continues to push to the north, Dallas getting a lot of rain this morning, showing from on the radar. And then Bill is going to continue to push into Oklahoma and then point (ph) into Missouri, St. Louis by the end of the week.

And so we're going to be watching several inches of rain dump across the Red River Valley as this continues to head north. And just like I said, that water is going to flow into all of these rivers that are already so full. And so we're going to be watching for possible river flooding from this by the weekend into the early part of next week.

And so, flood watches still in effect, of course. And we could see an additional four to six inches of rain across portions of Texas. Dallas could receive up to three inches of rain throughout the rest of today and tomorrow -- Chris. Or Michaela.

PEREIRA: I'll take it here. Important to remember, that just because the storms move on, that water is still there, and those rivers will crest. Thanks much for that.

We have encouraging developments now about the teens who survived back-to-back shark attacks off North Carolina's coast. The family of 13-year-old Kiersten Yow says they expect that she will be able to keep her leg.

Meanwhile, the other victim, 16-year-old Hunter Treschl, who lost his arm, he is speaking out for the first time. He says he didn't see it coming.

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[06:05:05] PEREIRA (voice-over): One of the victims of that brutal pair of shark attacks off the coast of North Carolina speaking out for the first time from his hospital bed, 16-year-old Hunter Treschl recounting that traumatic shark encounter that cost him his arm.

HUNTER TRESCHL, SHARK ATTACK SURVIVOR: I was just in waist-deep water, I would say, playing with my cousin, like I said. I felt this kind of hit on my left leg. It felt like it was a big fish coming at you or something. That was the first I saw it, when it was biting at my left arm.

PEREIRA: The teen from Colorado was swimming in the waters off Oak Island when the shark attacked.

TRESCHL: I didn't see it coming. Like I said, I felt it on my leg, and then I saw it once it attacked my arm.

PEREIRA: This happening a mere 90 minutes after another shark attack unfolded on the same beach, less than two miles away, where 13- year-old Kiersten Yow had her left arm torn off by a shark, bystanders leaping into action to prevent the victims from bleeding to death.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (via phone): She just got her arm bit off.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (via phone): OK, are you with the person now?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (via phone): My husband is. He's got it wrapped up in a towel as tight as he can.

PEREIRA: Just two days after that life-changing attack, Hunter vows to remain positive.

TRESCHL: I have kind of two options. I can try to live my life the way I was and make an effort to do that, even though I don't have my arm. Or I can kind of just let this be completely debilitating and bring my life down and ruin it, in a way. Out of those two, there's really only one that I would actually choose to do, and that's to try to fight and live a normal life with the cards I've been dealt. (END VIDEOTAPE)

PEREIRA: What a great attitude to hear from a 16-year-old. He survived a catastrophic injury.

CAMEROTA: And the perspective that he already has. It's incredible. But you know, to have your life change in a second, in a split second like that. I mean, and he can process it.

PEREIRA: It's really amazing. And Kiersten Yow, as you mentioned, the 13-year-old is really good news. Because she got a severe injury to her leg. She's expected to keep that leg, which is very good news.

CUOMO: And of course, the headline is, they're going to be OK. And this is not cause for some kind of panic about sharks. If you go online and take a look at the attacks, they almost never change year- to-year, how many happen and how many are lethal. I know you're going to hear a lot of media about it. It's horrible for these kids, but don't lose sight of what it's really about.

CAMEROTA: All right. Meanwhile, a major boost to the U.S.-led effort to destroy ISIS. Kurdish fighters and local rebels retaking control of a Syrian border town from ISIS. And this victory is big, because it chokes off the primary supply line to Raqqah, and that's ISIS's self-proclaimed capital.

PEREIRA: Police in Berkeley, California, are working with building inspectors to figure out what caused a fourth-floor apartment building [SIC] to give way during a party. It sent six college students plunging to their deaths. Five of those students were from Ireland on a summer visit to the United States. The other victim was a young woman from California. Seven others were hospitalized. They remain there with serious injuries.

CUOMO: Somewhere, Rick Barry is smiling. Not since 1975 have the Golden State Warriors been able to say, "We are NBA champs." They closed out LeBron James and the Cavs in six games. Let's get to Andy Scholes, live in Cleveland with more.

Boy oh boy, LeBron, he was great, but he proved one guy cannot be the team.

ANDY SCHOLES, CNN SPORTS: Absolutely, Chris. You know, you've got to give it to LeBron, he gave it his all. But, you know, the Cavs ended up falling short in this series.

And I've got to tell you what. It was basically a sea of sadness out here out here in Quicken Loans Arena last night. A lot of disappointed fans, because their 51-year championship drought here in the city of Cleveland will continue.

But for the Warriors, the wait is finally over. Golden State champions for the first time in 40 years. And as you said, Chris, they won the championship as a team. They jumped out to a 15-point lead in the third quarter last night. And you know, LeBron, great, once again. Thirty-two points,

nearly a triple double. But it just wasn't enough. Warriors win game six 105-97. Andre Iguodala was named the finals MVP after just a great series.

After the game, CNN's Rachel Nichols, she caught up with Warriors superstar Steph Curry to talk about winning his first championship.

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RACHEL NICHOLS, CNN SPORTS: What does it feel like to reach this after everything you have been through?

STEPH CURRY, WARRIORS: This is amazing. All those things you just talked about, the injuries, the underdog stories. It makes this moment so much more special. Having to fight your way every year, get a little bit better. Have a great group of teammates. This is a bond that we'll have forever.

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SCHOLES: And it was a pretty cool moment before the game, guys. Nineteen-year-old Marlana VanHoose sang one of the best national anthems you'll ever hear at a sporting event. Take a listen.

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MARLANA VANHOOSE, 19 YEARS OLD (singing): ... star-spangled banner yet wave o'er the land of the free...

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SCHOLES: Social media went absolutely crazy. Crazy for her performance. And rightfully so. Marlana suffers from cerebral palsy and is blind. She wasn't even supposed to live a year. But now she's an inspiration to us all. And guys, I have to say, I witnessed her singing this live, and it was just incredible.

[06:10:15] CAMEROTA: That's great. I mean, knowing her story gives you goose bumps, Andy. Thank you so much.

All right. Meanwhile, we want to get back to our top story now. The search for the escaped inmates, it is expanding as we learn more about the prison worker accused of helping them.

So let's turn to John Shaffer. He's the former executive deputy secretary of the Pennsylvania Department of Corrections. During his tenure, he investigated multiple prison escapes and helped coordinate many manhunts.

John, great to have you here with your expertise. So you were at the helm during one particular prison escape, the search for this prisoner from Huntington, Pennsylvania. That search lasted 19 days.

JOHN SHAFFER, FORMER EXECUTIVE DEPUTY SECRETARY, PENNSYLVANIA DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS: That's correct. Yes. CAMEROTA: Now, we are in day 12 of this search for these two

escapees. From what you see of what the investigators are doing, where do you think these guys are and where do you think the search should be looking?

SHAFFER: Well, of course, nobody knows whether they're local and hunkered down somewhere or whether they've escaped, obviously. That's the huge question before -- we have at hand. I think that it's important to figure out which staff are complacent and which ones are complicit. Usually in these investigations, you have a little bit of both.

CAMEROTA: So you think that there's more than Joyce Mitchell who helped them?

SHAFFER: I think it's likely. It's primarily when we investigate these escapes. It always comes down to staff complacency. That people just simply aren't following the policies and procedures that are in place.

CAMEROTA: How do you go about figuring out which workers helped them?

SHAFFER: Well, you'd have to gather the intelligence. You interview staff. You interview inmates. You go through telephone records, correspondence and just basically look for the circle of contacts.

CAMEROTA: You also say that one of the things investigators will be doing is checking the prison visitation list. How will that be a clue?

SHAFFER: Well, all inmates have an authorized list, both for their telephone communications, as well as for their visits. That's the first place you go to find out who they've been in communication with and who they've been talking to and then start questioning those individuals.

CAMEROTA: Joyce Mitchell's husband came to visit her in prison for the first time yesterday. They had a one-hour-long meeting. He is an interesting figure, because he may have been a target. There are suggestions that they were going to kill him. And also, just what he knew. If he was somehow complicit, what she told him. So would their conversation, would that hour-long conversation have been monitored somehow in prison?

SHAFFER: Very likely it was. Yes.

CAMEROTA: And what would that look like?

SHAFFER: Well, it was a noncontact visit to my understanding. So each party on the other side of the glass has a telephone. That is probably recorded and monitored, so I'm sure they listened in on that conversation.

CAMEROTA: You stay the good news of all this is that we are not seeing a crime spree. And that's sort of surprising. In your experience, after prisoners escape, do you see other -- do you see carjackings or you see robberies or home invasions?

SHAFFER: Yes. That's generally very common. Most inmates spend all their time focused on getting out, don't spend a lot of time on the plan afterward.

These guys obviously have a plan. It's pretty apparent that they had some outside assistance, whether that was to allow them to hunker down in place or to travel elsewhere. We don't know at this point. It's pretty clear. The fact that they aren't on a crime spree, you're not seeing hijackings of cars, you're not seeing home invasions, looking for food, drugs, weapons, or any of that kind of thing. So I think that's important to the investigators to try to figure out where they went.

CAMEROTA: So to your mind, does that mean that there is some sort of summer house, summer rental that nobody has figured out yet and to haven't shown up. The people who own the house in Vermont haven't shown up -- and we've heard this theory -- and they're just hanging out and laying low?

SHAFFER: That's certainly a possibility. And they could be in a survivalist bunker. Who knows?

CAMEROTA: Are these not survivalists?

SHAFFER: No. But I'm saying, if they have an outside accomplice who have one of those, they're off the grid, they're not on the map. You know, you can go knock on cabin doors all day long, but you're not going to find some bunker somewhere

But I think usually, they get caught because they do go out and commit other crimes, and they are on the move. And so it's troublesome that we haven't seen that.

CAMEROTA: You were a prison warden for many years. How common are relationships like the one that is being suggested between Joyce Mitchell and this convicts?

SHAFFER: Unfortunately, they're all too common. Staff do become compromised. They fraternize with inmates, and sometimes that goes on and becomes sexual relationships, as has been reported in this case.

CAMEROTA: Is there any training of prison workers to stop that?

SHAFFER: Absolutely. There's a lot of training. And New York has a good reputation in the New York Department of Correctional Services for that type of training. But staff become disenfranchised. That's been widely reported. But one time, she was investigated for a prior relationship.

Obviously, that didn't have a lot of substance to it or they would have either fired her or they would have transferred the inmate. But the fact that she remained in place. But that's how inmates then manipulate her. She's disenfranchised by the administration, because they've come after her. The inmates use that and say, "Hey, look, we're on your side. We're your friend. We care about you."

[06:15:08] And that's how they groom employees and eventually get them to do things like Joyce Mitchell is accused of doing.

CAMEROTA: John Shaffer, thanks so much for sharing all of your experience with us. Great to have you.

SHAFFER: You're welcome.

CAMEROTA: Let's get over to Chris.

CUOMO: All right, Alisyn. Donald Trump for president. Yes. What? Yes. How does someone so unpopular stay so popular? And now he may be more relevant than ever. Do you remember Ross Perot? How Trump could really infect the 2016 election.

PEREIRA: Another big topic of the collective consciousness right now, Rachel Dolezal speaking out, defending herself about allegations that she's lying about her race. One of her brothers joins us, again, with his reaction to her comments.

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TRUMP: The American dream is dead. But, if I get elected president, I will bring it back bigger and better and stronger than ever before, and we will make America great again.

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[06:20:11] CUOMO: Donald Trump. Could he play the spoiler? Is he the Ross Perot of 2016 or are we all part of a problem here fanning the flames of distraction? The answer to the last question is yes. The others are open to analysis. So let's have at it.

CAMEROTA: Here to weigh in, CNN political commentator and political anchor at New York One, Errol Lewis, and CNN analyst and presidential campaign correspondent for "The New York Times," Maggie Abraham. Great to have both of you.

Things just got interesting, people. Or fill in the blank, bizarre, entertaining. Maggie, how do you define his entry?

MAGGIE ABRAHAM, CNN ANALYST: I give Chris enormous points for self-awareness for self-awareness. The answer to that is yes. But 51 minutes, it was absolutely mesmerizing. No questions. It was not the speech they handed out. He just sort of talked. And some of what he said was real. Some of what he said is not holding up to the light. Look, he's going to run until he doesn't run. Right?

The big question is how long he stays in this race. He will be in this race long enough, I think, to get on the debate stage. I think that's the goal. His field is huge. It's basically going to be ten candidates-ish up on the field for the first few debates. At his press conference, he called Jeb Bush, essentially a loser, referred to Marco Rubio similarly.

You're going to see that in person. It is -- this is why party officials are very worried about his presence because it's going to turn this already massive and unwieldy field into something of a clown show. And that's they're afraid -- their fear as it goes off the rails.

But in the meantime, we're talking about him. People are watching him. He's on the front page of papers. That's what he wants.

CAMEROTA: So is he a spoiler, Errol?

ERROL LEWIS, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Well, he's -- look, he's a gut check for those of you who say we believe in free speech and open debate.

CAMEROTA: Absolutely.

LEWIS: Free speech is free speech for everybody. Open debate means including people in that debate who may say some things that are inconsistent, untrue, kooky, or a distraction. And so I think we're going to get all of that, in some part from Donald Trump. It is what it is. And so we'll take it for what it is.

I think, though, he is going to probably get a little bit of a surprise at how much people, if they do take him seriously, are going to find. And it's going to start to cut into the Trump brand. I mean, he talked endlessly yesterday about other countries and how they're doing bad things with trade, China and so forth. But the ties, and the cuff links and the suits that he has made in Mexico and Vietnam, and the shirts that he has made in China, he's part of that. He's benefitting from it. He needs to answer some questions.

CUOMO: Standard for simple hypocrisy. You know, the media would laugh him out of the race, wouldn't cover him, wouldn't take him seriously. The beauty of this man is that, for all the people who want to criticize him, the media covers him like they wouldn't cover their own mother.

And that's what fuels what was happening yesterday, is the coverage that he gets. And let's be honest. The media, this election, has not been rated well. These guys are -- this is not an exciting field. They will cover everything he does and keep him in the race maybe even longer than he wants.

CAMEROTA: Should we prove that point by showing a little more of what he said yesterday? Let's do that.

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TRUMP: I will be the greatest jobs president that God ever created.

I would repeal and replace the big lie, Obamacare. Nobody would be tougher on ISIS than Donald Trump. I will stop

Iran from getting nuclear weapons. I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will have Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words.

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CAMEROTA: He said, "Nobody is better at building a wall than me."

ABRAHAM: Actually, than Donald Trump is what he said at one point. At least at one point.

Look, what you just saw is -- this why you can't take your eyes off. It is entertainment, and that is what he does. You're talking about a reality TV star. That's how he's branded himself. That's what he is very good at.

One of the things that Donald Trump has been historically great at in the New York media, and we know this firsthand is playing the New York media. I think Pete Hamill once had a line, the columnist, that he would not allow Trump to be quoted as a source close to Trump in "The Daily News" at one point. This became a big piece of controversy. But he is very effective at managing his image, and he is very effective at getting us all engaged. What he has always wanted is credibility in politics. I'm not saying he has it. But I am saying a lot of people showed up yesterday.

CUOMO: He seems to have less than ever. The pushback used to be, you know, people like him. Regular people like him, because he's kind of that unfiltered conscience, you know, of what you would say if you didn't think before you said it. But his numbers don't prove it out this time. He is the least popular guy in the race by every metric that they can create.

So the question becomes, might that translate somehow into something counterintuitive in this race? That's why I brought up Ross Perot. He is not Ross Perot on paper. He is not Ross Perot on a legitimacy standpoint for a lot of reasons. But could it happen, Errol, and how?

LEWIS: I doubt it. Because what we've all seen, any of us who have been out on the campaign trail, is that there are people in different pockets around the country who are really hurting, who are really scared, who have kids who are serving overseas.

[06:25:08] It's one thing to sort of put all this bombast out about ISIS while you're standing in the well of Trump Tower. It's another thing if somebody's kid has been injured or killed, or parents who are afraid. And it doesn't sell, and the polls already suggest that.

The people have an extremely negative reaction to that. So in the talk show circuit, the radio talk show circuit, he's going to be fine. He's great with one liners. He'll give you something. He'll actually bring up points of debate that are probably worth talking about.

But when it comes down to it, when people go in to a voting booth and people, I think, do recognize, at least on a presidential season, that running the country is serious business. I think a lot of this all starts to sort of fade away. I doubt also, by the way, that this is a guy who does not like to lose, that he'll be out of the race before any real test.

CUOMO: He was ready to sue my parents when I was reporting on him. He damned me back to the womb.

LEWIS: I can believe it. That's for sure.

CAMEROTA: Well, speaking of entertainment, Jeb Bush was on Jimmy Fallon last night, and he slow-jammed the news. Let's watch this.

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JEB BUSH (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm looking forward to hitting the campaign trail and discussing the issues that are important to all Americans and having spirited debates with my fellow Republicans about how to solve them.

JIMMY FALLON, HOST, NBC'S "THE TONIGHT SHOW WITH JIMMY FALLON": You don't want to mess with little Jebby. When it comes to debating, he's a master.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's a master debater.

FALLON: While we're talking about the issues, where do you stand on immigration?

BUSH: Well, Jimmy, we're a nation of immigrants. And I believe everyone should have the chance to achieve the American dream and to translate that for all your Spanish speaking viewers, (SPEAKING SPANISH).

FALLON: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold the telephone-o. I know you just got back from Miami, but I didn't think I was interviewing Governor Pit Bull.

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BUSH: Fire ball.

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CAMEROTA: Maggie, how does this impact the race?

ABRAHAM: He gets points for showing up. He gets points for doing it. He didn't exactly look entertained for the first half. He loosened up a little bit.

CUOMO: That's why it was so good.

ABRAHAM: He gets points for doing this kind of thing. One of the things that was really striking about Jeb Bush's announcement was how real he seemed. I mean, I think that it was very well put together. It was a good event on any level. But he actually came across as a real person. I think that has been a bar that lots of candidates are having trouble with. And one in particular has gotten criticized for that, Hillary Clinton.

So actually, I think that Jeb Bush, after many, many bad weeks has had a successful reboot this week.

LEWIS: It is part of the modern campaign trail, you know. Just like going out and looking at prize pigs in Iowa and so forth, you know, sort of mucking around...

PEREIRA: Riding a Harley.

LEWIS: ... in foreign lands and all this sort of thing. You've got to go on television and sort of talk to the millennials in their preferred venue, which happens to be late-night TV.

CUOMO: And it's every generation. The trick is, you take the job seriously; you take the issue seriously. But do you take yourself too seriously? And that's the beauty of this, if you do it right.

CAMEROTA: Maggie and Errol, thank you. There's only 509 days, by the way. If you guys need to rush out right now, 509 days.

CUOMO: There's only three days.

LEWIS: Every one of them with great coverage.

CAMEROTA: Yes, you will. Maggie, Errol, thank you very much.

PEREIRA: But think about that, Alisyn. That's 509 days' worth of opportunities to slow jam the news, and I can get behind that.

All right. So we have heard them saying there's no crying in baseball, right? How about spying? How about that? Well, the feds are investigating allegations the St. Louis Cardinals hacked a rival team. We have details ahead in our "Bleacher Report."

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