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El Chapo Escape; Bill Cosby Accuser Speaks Out. Aired 8:30-9a ET
Aired July 16, 2015 - 08:30 ET
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[08:32:13] ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: Mexican drug kingpin Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, wanted by Interpol as one of the most wanted fugitives in the world. Were warnings by the U.S. of a possible escape ignored by Mexican officials?
Let's bring in Jack Riley. He's the deputy administrator for the Drug Enforcement Administration. He has spent much of his career trying to capture Guzman.
Mr. Riley, thanks so much for being here.
As we said, you've spent years trying to capture Guzman and you were successful in 2014. It must be wildly frustrating for you this morning to know that he got out again.
JACK RILEY, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR, DRUG ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATION: You know, Saturday was a terrible day for the good guys on both sides of the border. And I will tell you the hunt's back on. We're shoulder to shoulder with our Mexican counterparts. And he better be looking over his shoulder because we're definitely going to pursue him and get him back where he belongs, in jail.
CAMEROTA: But are we shoulder to shoulder with our Mexican counterparts, because there have been many reports that they have actually refused the help of the U.S. marshals and the FBI here?
RILEY: You know, I don't know where that information comes from. We really work with them around the clock on both sides of the border, 24/7. So we're going to do everything we've got to do to help them. Just like the first time we tracked this guy down and hooked him up, we're going to do it again. And I'm here to tell you, there is a resolve on both sides of the border to make sure this bad guy belongs in prison and stays in prison.
CAMEROTA: So you're not aware of the Mexico - of Mexico refusing help from the U.S.?
RILEY: No. To the contrary, we've been engaged with them on a daily basis for many, many months in this investigation and others. So as we develop information here domestically or around the world, we routinely share it with them and work it through. So there is cooperation here. There will be cooperation here. And, quite frankly, that's how he got caught the first time. So I -
CAMEROTA: Yes.
RILEY: I think this is going to have a similar ending.
CAMEROTA: Can you tell us about that? How did he get captured the first time?
RILEY: Well, you know, we used every tool available to us, human intelligence, legal electronic surveillance, working our investigations here domestically, looking for bits of information. Here's one thing Chapo really hopes, and he plans on, is that the good guys, the cops don't talk to each other. And I've got to tell you, we're exchanging information, we're connecting the dots right now better than we have in the 30 years I've been on this job.
CAMEROTA: But wasn't he also asleep on like a lounge chair at a beach and he had sort of, after 13 years, become complacent, I guess, on the run?
RILEY: You know, it's tough - it's tough being on the lam no matter who you are and no matter what resources you have. This is a guy, in my opinion, who's the most dangerous criminal right now on the loose in the world. He's a billionaire. He has the ability to corrupt and certainly to kill. And human traits got to him. He wanted to come down, you know, into a vibrant society opposed from hiding up in the mountains and that got to him. And when it did, we're all over him.
[08:35:22] CAMEROTA: Let's take a look at the tunnel through which El Chapo escaped. This comes courtesy of our correspondent, Nick Valencia. He went inside the tunnel. Inside there, Mr. Riley, it was incredible what it was equipped with. It had a motorcycle for - to make a getaway. Right there you see Nick showing a cart. They had carts for transportation. He had oxygen tanks in there. The tunnel was also ventilated. The tunnel also was equipped with electricity. What made Mexico think that they could keep him in a prison given all of this?
RILEY: Well, you know, everybody was concerned. He did escape one time before. He has immense connections and wealth. And clearly it was a concern on both sides of the border.
But let's not talk about how he got out. Let's talk about the fact he is out and what are we going to do to get him back behind bars because that's what's important to both Mexico and the United States.
CAMEROTA: OK, so let's talk about that. We've heard that there are 10,000 law enforcement officers who are looking for him. And, in fact, we've seen some video of them looking in - they're checking cars here as they go by at checkpoints. They're going through fields. But let's face it, Mr. Riley, these are - this is not two guys from the Clinton Correctional Facility in New York. He's not going to be hiding in a hunting cabin somewhere. He has an incredible underground network. How are you going to find him?
RILEY: Right. Well, what we're doing is we're looking everywhere. We're looking at people that aid his organization. We're looking at family members that may be involved, former associates, rival cartels that may be in contact with some of his surrogates. And we're also looking at the ongoing investigations that we have here domestically that deal with people that have to report to him. All of those are crucial in connecting the dots and attempting to try to find where he is. And most importantly, once we think we know where he is, getting the right people there with the right equipment to get him hooked up and back in handcuff handcuffs.
CAMEROTA: Jack Riley, we know if you have anything to do with it, you're going to try to get your man again. Thanks so much for being on NEW DAY. Best of luck.
RILEY: Hey, thank you so much, Alisyn.
CAMEROTA: Let's go back to Chris.
CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: All right. Now, CNN and specifically Alisyn Camerota have been on the Cosby story from jump, and now comes another piece in the puzzle, stunning details about where the "Jane Doe" from the now infamous 2005 deposition says she was when Cosby assaulted her, and his bizarre obsession. The interview, ahead.
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[08:41:45] CUOMO: Time now for the five things to know for your NEW DAY.
Number one, former President George H.W. Bush in the hospital after breaking a bone in his neck. The 91-year-old suffering a fall at his summer home in Maine. He is listed in stable condition. We wish him well.
"The New York Times" reporting the U.S. is ready to offer Israel increased military aid to soften the blow of the Iran deal. The offer reportedly neither accepted nor rejected, at least for now.
Interpol now on the case for Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, issuing a red alert for the escaped drug lord. Ten thousand soldiers and police now on the hunt. More than 100 checkpoints set up on Mexico's highways.
President Obama doing something no sitting president has ever done. What? Visiting a federal prison. He'll speak with inmates and law enforcement. Why is he doing this? Part of the president's push for criminal justice reforms.
And Caitlyn Jenner making the first major public appearance since transitioning into a woman. Jenner received the Arthur Ashe Courage Award at the ESPYs, using the platform to fight for transgender acceptance.
Do you want to know more about the five things to know? Of course you do. So go to newdaycnn.com for the latest.
All right, time for today's "New Day, New You." Did you participate in the ice bucket challenge last year? Seventeen million people did it, raising $115 million for ALS. Question, what happened to all that money? Here's what we're told. Most of it, $77 million, research, $23 million, patient and community services like canes, wheelchairs, that kind of stuff, another $10 million going to educating the public about disease. The money, therefore, they say, well spent, Alisyn. Did you do it?
CAMEROTA: I somehow avoided it, but I am happy to see the breakdown of where all that money is going. So - people were so interested in that. So, thanks, Chris.
Well, the stories from Bill Cosby's rape accusers have many similarities, but the tale of one accuser has some disturbing and new details. That's next.
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[08:46:36] CAMEROTA: Another woman coming forward to say Bill Cosby drugged and raped her. She was one of the Jane Doe's from the infamous 2005 case against the embattled comedian. Her name is Patricia and she first met Cosby when she was 22 years old and an aspiring singer. This was in the late '70s. She presents two new angles not previously covered. First, a bizarre request that she says Cosby made about her appearance and the location she says Cosby chose for the alleged attack.
We have agreed to protect her identity, which is why she appears in silhouette. Here's her story.
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CAMEROTA: You were 22 years old.
PATRICIA, ACCUSES BILL COSBY OF DRUGGING AND RAPING HER: Yes.
CAMEROTA: When you say Bill Cosby invited you to a dinner party at his home in Massachusetts. When you arrived there you realized it wasn't exactly a dinner party, as you had imagined. You were the only guest.
PATRICIA: That's right. I expected, when invited to a dinner party, to meet his family or some friends, somebody who could help me with my career as a singer and was a little dismayed to discover that it was a place setting for two people on a coffee table in front of a fireplace in his home.
CAMEROTA: Alarm bells start going off. What are you feeling and thinking at that point?
PATRICIA: They did, but I was young, I was very much influenced by his fame and prestige and I was trying so hard to the be grown up and to sort of take it all in as something that I needed to accommodate. The fact that we were alone did bother me but I thought, he's a trusted man, I can trust him.
CAMEROTA: Then what happened?
PATRICIA: He gave me a drink. He fixed it himself, I didn't see him fix the drink, and I started to feel really odd. I started to lose my balance, my speech became slurred. This was after about a half of a drink.
CAMEROTA: What's the next thing you remember?
PATRICIA: I'm waking up, I'm naked, I'm in a bedroom on the main floor of his home, he's standing over me in a bathrobe telling me that I have to get up and offering me a toothbrush. And I said, what happened? And he said, well, you threw up and you passed out. And I said, where's my dress? He said, oh, I had to wash it. He never explained why he was in a bathrobe. And he said you have to go. And this is the middle of the night and I was sicker than I'd ever been in my life.
CAMEROTA: Did you know that something beyond his story had happened to you?
[08:49:49] PATRICIA: No, I did not. I really believed him. I thought I'd humiliated and embarrassed myself and couldn't figure out after less than one drink why I'd had that reaction. To my knowledge, I'm the only person who's accounted for an episode that took place in his family home in Shelburne Falls, Massachusetts, where he raised his family with Camille, where his son is buried. To do that in a house where you raise your family just seems really abhorrent to me and I want the world to know that that's what he did. Whether it was with Camille's knowledge or not, I don't know.
CAMEROTA: So you were embarrassed, you were humiliated, you still wanted to impress this man who was going to act as your mentor who was Bill Cosby, who was, at that time, one of the most trusted men in America, and you saw him again. And then when did you realize that you say you were in danger with him?
PATRICIA: The last time I spent any time with him was in Atlantic City, New Jersey. He invited me to meet him for a taping of "The Dinah Shore Show." After the show, he invited me to his penthouse suite in the casino resort where he was staying and he met me at the door and he would not allow me to enter the suite unless I took the two pills that were in his hand. I said what are they? He said, oh, they're just something to relax you. I said okay because I wanted to spend time with this man who was offering to help me with my career. And about 30 minutes later I don't remember anything until the next morning when I was waking up. I woke up with my hair a mess, my makeup a mess, naked and I felt like somebody had penetrated me.
CAMEROTA: That's the time that you felt fairly certain that you had been raped?
PATRICIA: That's right. I went to confront him about it and he became furious with me, called me ungrateful and threw me out of his suite.
CAMEROTA: Did you go to the authorities?
PATRICIA: I did not. You know, I've been asked a lot, why didn't I go to the authorities? People didn't challenge powerful men in 1978, 1979 or 1980. They just didn't. I told friends and family members and sadly, many of them didn't believe me.
CAMEROTA: Those pills, we've just heard, because some of the documents from the 2005 Andrea Constand case, of which you were Jane Doe, have been released, and in it, in a deposition, Bill Cosby admits that he got seven prescriptions for Quaaludes. What did you think when you heard that revelation?
PATRICIA: I was happy that that was released, because it felt like our stories were validated. I know that in the same deposition at one point he said he gave Andrea Constand some Benadryl. Benadryl will not do to us whatever he gave us did. It will not make us unable to move, it won't make us as sick as we were made, so I was happy that that was reported that way.
CAMEROTA: There's another thing that happened around "The Dinah Shore Show" where he, before you feel that you were attacked and raped, he wanted you to look a certain way.
PATRICIA: Yes.
CAMEROTA: What was that?
PATRICIA: I believe he had an obsession with Queen Noor of Jordan. She met and married King Hussein. He would send me clippings, photo clippings from the newspaper and magazines of her. She wore her hair up in a particular way and he asked me, before coming to Atlantic City, to have my hair done the same way that she had her hair done.
CAMEROTA: So bizarre. He had a fixation, you believe, with Queen Noor and wanted you to pose as her. I mean, unconsciously.
PATRICIA: Yes. I believe so. And I've also heard from my therapist who was the one who connected me with the detective investigating Andrea Constand's case, that there were other women who also spoke about their experience of trying to be made to look like Queen Noor. So I don't think I was the only one. But to my knowledge, I'm the only one who's mentioned it so far.
I think what he's done is very addictive in nature, something that he can't seem to stop, a compulsion of some kind. And it does seem to be about women whoa re incapacitated and unconscious and taking advantage of them.
It's important to me also to say that I know that I had a part in this. I allowed my ambition to become a singer to overrule the choices that I made. I did not listen to my intuition about the red flags that I saw along the way, so I know that I played a part in that and I also placed my trust in a flawed human being. And that was my part. But what he did was not right and it was without my consent.
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CAMEROTA: So interesting to hear her talk about that she believes that he had this fixation with Queen Noor and wanted her to dress like that and that she says that this happened in his family's home and she saw pictures of his children. CUOMO: Every one of these people you've brought out in this story adds
something.
CAMEROTA: Absolutely. And they say there's strength in numbers. They all -- many of them have now been in touch with each other and it has been a great source of comfort for them.
CUOMO: And they have a new supporter: President Obama.
CAMEROTA: Right, who talked about it for the first time yesterday.
CUOMO: All right. We're going to take a little break. When we come back, "The Good Stuff" actually forgettable. But that's what makes it a good thing. Hm.
CAMEROTA: Hm. Interesting tease, Chris Cuomo.
[08:54:51] CUOMO: That's a clue. We have not seen one like this before. Coming up.
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CUOMO: Time for "The Good Stuff." Right out of a movie, last year Jeremy and Justice Stamper have had the storybook wedding. "For better or worse" gets tested too soon. A car wreck 20 days later left Justice with a terrible concussion and absolutely no memory of the wedding.
CAMEROTA: Oh my gosh.
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JUSTICE STAMPER, DOESN'T REMEMBER WEDDING AFTER BEING IN CAR WRECK: I don't remember any of it. I've looked through it many of times. I would do anything and give anything just to have that moment back.
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CUOMO: So Jeremy says, look, I want you to have another wedding. The problem is, I got no cash. They try a Go Fund Me page, nothing. But a local wedding DJ hears about the story and that's when everything happens.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just kept (INAUDIBLE). I can do more than this. And I picked up the phone and started calling the people that I work with, everything from the tuxedo all the way to the wedding cake and the napkins and the music and their first dance. They're going to have a spectacular wedding, one that she will remember for the rest of her life.
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CUOMO: The entire town gets together. Now the wedding is almost completely covered. People coming together to help people in need. I love it.
CAMEROTA: That's wonderful. Such a nice gesture from that DJ.
CUOMO: Gets me right here in the ring.
CAMEROTA: That's where it hits you?
CUOMO: Yeah, in the wedding ring.
[09:00:00] CAMEROTA: That's your show. Thanks so much for watching NEW DAY. Time now for "NEWSROOM" with Carol Costello.
