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Ten Candidates Selected for First GOP Debate; Jeb Bush: 'I Misspoke on Women's Health Funding'; FBI Investigating Security of Clinton E-mails; President Begins Campaign for Iran Nuclear Deal; Deadly Tent Collapse Caught on Video; Investigators Begin to Analyze Plane Part. Aired 6-6:30a ET

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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Our country is really going bad. We're going downhill fast.

[05:58:32] UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Donald Trump riding high in the polls.

TRUMP: The poll numbers are not only good, I mean, they're phenomenal.

ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: The stage is set for the Republican debate. Who is in and who is out?

JEB BUSH (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm not sure we need a half a billion dollars for women's health issues.

HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I guess women's health just isn't a priority for him.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He misspoke. And it's going to happen.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is a big mistake.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Shock and outrage after an 8-year-old boy is handcuffed in school.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They had thought that this kid was now a danger.

RICKELL HOWARD, CHILDREN'S LAW CENTER: Why would that ever be OK?

CHAD MYERS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Heart-pounding moments from inside the circus tent that collapsed.

TRICIA COXARAKIS, WITNESS: I saw things that I'll never want to see again.

BRANDON ISHAM, WITNESS: People who were part of the circus just yelled "Run!"

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ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo, Alisyn Camerota and Michaela Pereira.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning! Welcome to your NEW DAY. It's Wednesday, August 5, 6 a.m. in the east; and now the stage is set, literally. We know who will be at the first GOP debate. Front- runner Donald Trump, of course, center stage tomorrow night. Who's in? Who's out? And what will be the tactics, especially for Mr. Trump?

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton is pouncing on Jeb Bush for unscripted comments he made about women's health. This as a new report says the FBI is now looking into Clinton's private e-mail system.

Let's begin all of our political news with our team coverage of the presidential race with CNN political reporter Sara Murray. She is live in Washington.

Good morning, Sara.

SARA MURRAY, CNN POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Alisyn.

Yes, the waiting game is over to who is going to be on this debate stage. And now everyone's wondering, what is the dynamic going to be like with Trump at center stage? Take a look.

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MURRAY (voice-over): Donald Trump riding high in the polls on the eve of the first GOP debate.

TRUMP: The polls are not only good. I mean, they're phenomenal. The -- you know, we just got numbers from South Carolina, which are through the roof, Iowa, New Hampshire. Not only the national numbers. So I'm very honored by it. What it really shows is that people are tired of incompetence.

MURRAY: The billionaire presidential candidate will take center stage planked in Cleveland Thursday, flanked by nine of his rivals. Last night, it was announced who made the cut and clinched a coveted spot in the primetime debate. Along with Trump, we'll see Jeb Bush, Scott Walker, Mike Huckabee, Ben Carson, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Rand Paul and rounding out the bunch, Chris Christie and John Kasich.

Just as remarkable, the seven who won't be onstage for the main event, like Rick Perry, the longest serving governor of Texas; Rick Santorum, the 2012 winner of the Iowa causes; and Carly Fiorina, a former CEO and the only woman in the GOP field. Those candidates will face off in an earlier debate at 5 p.m.

Now one big question remains. Will Trump go on the attack? Last night, he offered a preview.

TRUMP: I'm not looking to hurt anybody. I'm not looking to embarrass anybody. If I have to bring up deficiencies, I'll bring up deficiencies.

MURRAY: The latest polls show Trump with wide support from roughly one in four Republican voters. But if preparing to go toe-to- toe against the former reality TV star feels a little surreal, his competitors aren't letting on.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When you were a young man growing up in Texas, you probably never imagined that one day you would be on television with Donald Trump. But you will be this week.

BUSH: When I was growing up, we didn't have reality TV, either.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK.

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MURRAY: Now, as you might imagine, there are plenty of sour feelings today from those candidate who did not make the main debate stage. A spokesman for Rick Santorum says the process was incredibly flawed. He called national polls in August meaningless.

Back to you, Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: All right, Sara. We'll talk to you in one second for more analysis.

Meanwhile, Donald Trump's chief rival at the moment, Jeb Bush, who you just saw, admitted to another misstep. Bush drawing fire for saying that he's not sure the country needs a half billion dollars for, quote, "women's health issues."

Democratic front-runner, Hillary Clinton, pounced on that. CNN senior correspondent Joe Johns is live in Washington with more.

Hi, Joe.

JOE JOHNS, CNN SENIOR CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Alisyn.

The battle over Planned Parenthood now spilling over onto the presidential campaign trail. Just another indicator of how tricky this controversy is for Republican candidates like Jeb Bush, who would try to use the moment to turn the abortion debate to their advantage while also trying to do a balancing act so they don't alienate voters over the underlying concerns about women's health.

GOP presidential hopeful Jeb Bush walking back a seemingly offhanded jab over women's health funding.

BUSH: I'm not sure we need a half a billion dollars for women's health issues.

JOHNS: Jeb said in a statement soon after he misspoke at the Southern Baptist Convention in Tennessee Tuesday. He says he meant to say the $500 million in federal funding that goes to Planned Parenthood should be directed to other women's health organizations. No matter, rival Hillary Clinton pounced. CLINTON: I guess women's health just isn't a priority for him.

JOHNS: Hillary first firing off this tweet at Jeb Bush: "You are absolutely, unequivocally wrong."

Bush tweeting right back an hour later: "What's absolutely, unequivocally wrong is giving taxpayer money to an organization whose practices show no regard for lives of unborn."

At a campaign event in Denver Tuesday, Hillary did not hold back.

CLINTON: I'm really tired of the double speak. I'm tired of women being shamed and blamed and dismissed.

JOHNS: Coming to his aid, Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, tweeting that Clinton ought to be ashamed for standing with Planned Parenthood.

The fight over women's health intensifying just a day after the Republican effort to defund the organization failed to get enough votes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The motion is not agreed to.

JOHNS: Some Republicans now threaten a government shutdown if Planned Parenthood is not defunded.

CLINTON: When you attack Planned Parenthood, you attack women's health. And when you attack women's health, you attack America's health.

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JOHNS: And this dust-up between candidates is coming on the same day the Center for Medical Progress, an antiabortion group, released its fifth undercover video, purporting to show methods and money motives of Planned Parenthood abortion dividers engaged in the exchange of fetal tissues to be used for research -- Michaela.

PEREIRA: All right, John. Thank you for that.

Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton's lawyer confirming a new report this morning that the FBI is investigating the security of the private e- mail system used by Clinton when she was secretary of state.

[06:05:04] CNN senior White -- Washington correspondent Jeff Zeleny joins us from Washington with these developments -- Jeff.

JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Michaela.

Michaela, you're right. The FBI is looking into the security of Hillary Clinton's private e-mail server that she set up in her home in Chappaqua, New York, back when she was secretary of state.

Her lawyer, David Kendall, is telling CNN they are actively cooperating with this ongoing probe to determine whether hundreds of e-mails, some containing material that was later classified, were handled properly.

Now, Clinton is not accused of any wrongdoing here in this probe, but intelligence officials have raised concern about sensitive information that could have been compromised.

Now overnight, her campaign spokesman, Nick Merrill, told CNN, "She did not receive any e-mails that were marked classified at the time. We want to ensure that appropriate procedures are followed as these e-mails are reviewed while not unduly delaying the release of her other e-mails."

Now, this decision to set up a private e-mail server back in January of 2009 has been at the center of controversy in her presidential campaign, and it's raised questions of her trustworthiness and honesty. And as the FBI inquiry continues, so will all of those questions in this presidential campaign -- Chris.

CUOMO: All right, Jeff. Thank you very much.

Let's discuss the impact of what's going to happen, and who is in and who's out with the debate and Planned Parenthood, which is probably the introduction of the first real cultural and legal issue into this election.

We have CNN political reporter Sara Murray. Thank you for being back. Joined by CNN political commentator, political anchor at New York One, Mr. Errol Lewis.

Let's put up who's in and who's out again, just to remind people. Errol, for all of the disgruntlement over who didn't get in, that's the way it works. At some point, you have to put numbers to this popularity. And you're either in or you're out.

ERROL LOUIS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, they didn't have to do it. FOX News, nor the RNC, they didn't have to do it this way. They announced that they would, that they would take the average of five polls a year and a half out from the election and let that be sort of a determining factor. There's also some question about which polls they used and whether or not they're all equal and whether or not, for example, Rick Perry was really that far behind John Kasich. You know, so...

CUOMO: But are they good questions? Do you think you could moderate a panel with 17 people?

CAMEROTA: No. You can divide it in half. And that was the other option, right, was divide it in half...

CUOMO: But then you don't have...

CAMEROTA: ... eight on one stage, nine on the other. And then mix it up.

LOUIS: They -- whatever... CUOMO: You don't have them going against the right people, and

"I want to talk to that guy and I can't." You know.

LOUIS: I've done -- I've done a ton of debates for statewide and local offices, and the one thing that they can't do, which I suspect they might, is ask one question and ask all ten people to answer it.

CUOMO: That's right.

LOUIS: And that is the worst mistake you could possibly make. All of these rules are supposed to be sort of a framework around which you can get a good conversation going.

CUOMO: Right.

LOUIS: The goal is the conversation.

On the other hand, if they want to try and be fair to ten people in 90 minutes, it's going to be, you know, an exchange of billboard ads. You know, it's going to be a bunch of talking points of a few people saying their slogans, and then the whole thing will be over.

CAMEROTA: So Sara, what do the other nine non-Trumpers need to do to steal some of the limelight?

SARA MURRAY, CNN POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, I do think it's going to be tough, because we don't know how many people are going to tune in for this earlier debate.

But if you have a good moment on that debate stage, we will be replaying it. We will point to it here on CNN. It will be on cable news. So I think that if you are a Carly Fiorina, if you are a Rick Santorum, you do want to have your breakout moment on the debate stage.

How you're going to do that, whether it's going after Hillary Clinton, whether it's going after another one of the -- your fellow candidates on stage, I think that's still an open question.

The interesting thing is, so many of the people who have been most vocal about taking on Trump are not going to be in the primetime debate. They're going to be on that 5 p.m. panel.

CUOMO: Kasich makes it into the debate. He's probably the most formidable guy in terms of creating an opposite-effect arrow for Donald Trump within the party. And now he's in there. Do you think that it's not so much about whether Donald Trump hurts or helps himself? You know, you could argue he can't do either, really, and he's a known quantity. But do you think this is an opportunity for someone like Kasich?

LOUIS: Well, this is a real opportunity for Kasich. He's one of the last to get into the race. For one thing, he does have a great resume. He's got -- he's a serious guy. He's more in the mold of what we've seen from national leadership. Somebody who runs what is an important swing state, where the convention is going to be held. A guy who has a lot of different ideas and a guy who deserves a chance to be heard, like all of the other candidates.

So it's good that FOX News -- and it's very possible, I think, that they tweaked their own standards to make sure that he was in. And fine. You know?

What we're going to see, though, going forward, though, is this really tricky situation where the RNC has said to all the Republican candidates, if you're not -- if you take part in an unapproved debate, you cannot take part in an approved debate.

So now the whole thing is sort of at the mercy of the FOX News Channel, some unknown pollsters out in the world. There's a little more chance involved here than one would expect for something so important.

CAMEROTA: Sara, let's talk about Jeb Bush and the comments that he made that were unscripted that Hillary Clinton then pounced on about women's health and how much money should be spent on women's health issues. Here's -- here is the soundbite for those who missed it.

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[06:10:05] BUSH: You could take dollar for dollar, although I'm not sure we need a half a billion dollars for women's health issues. But if you took dollar for dollar, there are many extraordinarily fine organizations, community health organizations that exist, federally sponsored community-health organizations to provide quality care for women on a wide variety of health issues.

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CAMEROTA: Sara, he was trying to make the point that it doesn't have to go to Planned Parenthood. But he said he wasn't sure we needed that much money anyway. How big of a stumble is that?

MURRAY: I think that comment is pretty cringe-worthy when you listen to it. And, look, you know, you don't replay the statements that they put out over and over again. You replay the soundbite.

So I also think it sets up a huge contrast for him and Hillary Clinton. And I think this was -- this was exactly the gift Hillary Clinton wanted to show the difference between where she stands and where the Republican Party stands.

The difficulty for Jeb Bush is when you talk about it in those frames, when you talk it as $500 million for women's issues, the reality is everyone knows those services are not just for women's issues; they're for family issues. This is how we reproduce in America. This is how we ensure women are healthy and can have babies. You can have families and sort of talk about it in that demeaning way. I don't think that does any favors for women.

CUOMO: He was trying to play to his audience there and accomplish two things. One, take a shot at Planned Parenthood and, two, take a shot at government for spending too much money on things. And he got tripped up on it. It's part of learning how to play the game.

The larger issue is here, though. And yes, Hillary scored some easy political points, Errol. But the -- the risk of insensitivity, which has come out in these videos and especially this fifth one where you have someone saying, "You know, it's kind of fun." The regard, that word in that, the regard for what's being done to these fetuses. Is that something that should be given a little bit more credence by supporters of Planned Parenthood?

LOUIS: Well, I think supporters of Planned Parenthood should get ready for the uncomfortable reality that it's very possible that they will be stampeded into a position that is unattainable and that really sort of makes a mockery of the facts, but accomplishes the political goal of people who set this whole thing up.

I mean, it -- this, in some ways, looks like a replay of what happened to ACORN, right? I mean, you can take what one person says in one little unit and then sort of blow it up into some kind of much larger sort of accusation, that the facts no one actually supports. And if that's what the political reality, is, I mean, I'll give you an example, Chris.

I would recommend, on the Center for Medical Progress, to their credit, they have published transcripts of two-hour conversations. If you actually plow through the transcript, you get a very different sense than if you just watch a couple of seconds of video.

However, we all know, because we work in television, the video is going to be what people remember. The video is going to be what's controlling. And it leaves Planned Parenthood in a terrible situation.

CAMEROTA: I mean, of course, Planned Parenthood says that they don't -- they can't ensure that those transcripts are accurate. But you're right, they do seem to be much better represented in the transcripts than they are on the video.

But I want to get to one more point by Hillary Clinton, because this morning, the FBI is announcing that they are now looking into her e-mails and whether or not some of them were classified and should have been not on her private server. How big of a problem is that?

MURRAY: Well, I don't think this is helpful for the Hillary Clinton honest and trustworthy numbers, which we know are already taking a hit. An investigation is different from whether you find anything. And her campaign has maintained that nothing was classified at the time.

Now, since then, things have become classified. And you can go back and forth on that. But I think the question here is really what the FBI finds during this investigation. That said, if people are sitting there reading headlines about the FBI investigating the Democratic front-runner, again, I don't think that's going to help her poll numbers.

CAMEROTA: All right. Sara, Errol, thanks so much. MURRAY: Thanks.

CAMEROTA: Michaela.

PEREIRA: All right. President Obama is rolling out his campaign to defend the Iran nuclear deal today. He'll do that publicly in a speech at American University later this morning. This all comes a day after a sometimes contentious meeting at the White House where he privately lobbied American Jewish leaders to back the deal.

CNN White House correspondent Michelle Kosinski has the latest for us now -- Michelle.

MICHELLE KOSINSKI, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Michaela, right, we have seen intense lobbying on both sides, too. Advocacy groups spending millions of dollars. The president holding one-on-one meetings with undecided Democrats. Several prominent Democrats already saying no to the deal. And even these kinds of dueling speeches between Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Obama.

Here's Netanyahu in a webcast that was meant specifically for Jewish groups here.

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BENJAMIN NETANYAHU, ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER: The deal does make it harder for Iran to produce one or two nuclear weapons in the short term, but it does so at a terrible price, because the deal makes it far easier for Iran to build dozens, even hundreds of nuclear weapons in a little over a decade.

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KOSINSKI: So today, President Obama will deliver a speech of his own at American University. And he's going to frame this as the most consequential foreign policy debate since that over whether or not to go to war with Iraq.

[06:14:50] And he's going to compare those who oppose the Iran deal with those who voted for war. The way the president sees this, when the opposition is there and those who feel that way are going to see that Iran, unchecked, could go for a bomb within a couple of months. And the president says, then we'll hear Israel talking, you know, possible military intervention -- Chris.

CUOMO: you know, Michelle, the proposition had always been not if, but when. And that's something people are going to have to get comfortable with as they accept this deal or not. Appreciate the reporting. Check back with you in a little bit.

Also want to tell you about this situation. Two separate trains derailing off the same bridge in India. The trains were crossing a small bridge that had been flooded in Harda. It's 450 miles south of New Delhi. The waters caused part of the track to sink. Both trains wound up tumbling just within minutes of each other. Twenty-seven people lost their lives, but more than 300 were rescued.

CAMEROTA: There's new video out this morning capturing that deadly circus tent collapse in New Hampshire. The images show the chaos in the moments after the wind swept up the tent, sending poles tumbling into the crowd below. Officials looking into whether criminal charges could be on the way.

CNN's Chad Myers joins us with more. What have you seen here, Chad?

MYERS: The weather service saying that the winds from this microburst may have been 90 miles per hour. The pictures you just showed, and I have them in my piece in a second, it looks like Hollywood, but in fact, that video is real.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (EXPLETIVE DELETED).

MYERS (voice-over): New video this morning showing the heart- pounding moments from inside the circus tent that collapsed on Monday, killing two spectators and injuring dozens more. The big top giving away to severe weather, less than 20 minutes into a performance in Lancaster, New Hampshire.

Panic and chaos, spectators desperately scrambling to get out of the way of flying poles and uprooted stakes under the collapsed structure.

ISHAM: People who were part of the circus yelled, "Run!" Next thing you know, the tent is coming up and over.

MYERS: Open flaps on the side of the tent flailing wildly in the high winds, the tragedy claiming the lives of a father and his young daughter, 41-year-old Robert Young and his 8-year-old daughter, Annabelle, fatally struck by a flying pole.

Nearly 40 spectators hospitalized. Many seriously injured.

COXARAKIS: I saw things that I'll probably never want to see again.

MYERS: Twenty-three minutes before the collapse, the National Weather Service issued a severe thunderstorm warning. Officials saying it's likely a microburst, packing winds up to 90 miles per hour, hit the area at the time of the collapse. Investigators are now trying to determine whether circus organizers are criminally culpable for the incident.

BILL DEGNAN, NEW HAMPSHIRE STATE FIRE MARSHALL: It's really the responsibility of the show to monitor the conditions. And we don't know why they -- they were going on at that time or what they knew.

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MYERS: Officials there will be looking at permits, inspections and all the other legalities of this tragedy.

And if you are in Arkansas today, there will be weather a lot like this. Winds could approach 60 or 70 miles per hour, 4 or 5 p.m. tonight from Tulsa to Little Rock to Memphis. Damaging winds, large hail, isolated tornadoes. Being outside in a severe thunderstorm is always dangerous. Go inside, please.

Guys, back to you.

CUOMO: Good advice, Chad. Thank you very much. We'll be back with you throughout the morning to see what's going on.

But here's a little tease for you. So we now have this big discovery on Reunion Island. Right? What does it mean about how big the search area should be? Right now it's 50,000 square miles. But that's before they found the wing. Should it be much smaller now? There is a new theory. We're going to test it.

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[06:22:40] CAMEROTA: An investigative team in Toulouse, France, analyzing a wing component found on an island in the Indian Ocean to see if it belongs to the missing MH370. If so, what will they learn about the plane's final moments?

Let's bring in David Soucie. He's our CNN aviation analyst and former FAA accident investigator and inspector. David, thanks so much for being here. Great to see you. Let's look at the piece that investigators are analyzing. Tell us what's happening at this hour.

DAVID SOUCIE, CNN AVIATION ANALYST: Well, the first thing is, as an investigator is to shake off everything you know about MH370. Just forget about everything you know, because you're going to let this part tell its story. Every single part in the accident has its own story to tell.

CAMEROTA: How does it do that?

SOUCIE: Well, as we look at it, first of all, visually, you look at it and you can see a couple of very interesting things about this. We've talked a lot about the barnacles.

CAMEROTA: Yes. I'll let you draw on that.

SOUCIE: These are strategically put there. I mean, see how they grow here and here and here and here?

CAMEROTA: Yes.

SOUCIE: All along the back here are these barnacles. Well, why are they there and why are they not here?

CAMEROTA: I don't know, why?

SOUCIE: Well, because this -- what happens is this is a zinc chromate paint. This is an imron paint which is an epoxy paint. So it's designed to keep microbes and algae and that sort of thing from growing. So what happens here, this tells us, that this is where it broke. This is where the metal broke, because that's exposed aluminum, exposed magnesium, exposed steel. All of those things are what this barnacle really likes.

CAMEROTA: OK. And the fact that it tells you -- let's do this -- where it broke, what does that -- go further down that route.

SOUCIE: More important is -- it's more important where it didn't break. If you look at this, there is no evidence of any barnacles right here...

CAMEROTA: Yes.

SOUCIE: ... or on the top. What that tells us that this thing was -- had a lot of stress here and here and here and at the mounting points. But it did not crush; it didn't come into the water and crush with the rest of the aircraft. I suspect this thing is telling me that it was not on the airplane at the time it hit the water.

CAMEROTA: It came off first?

SOUCIE: Exactly.

CAMEROTA: And that tells you what?

SOUCIE: Well, it tells me a couple things. One is it could have been extended or down when it did glide into the water and then pull it off. But the reason I don't think that's the case is you can see how straight and -- straight this piece is here. If it had hit the water, it would be all twisted and deformed. So I don't think that's the case.

I think what happened is this thing, in the air, as the aircraft was -- run out of fuel, it made a quick and straight and really, really almost the speed of sound descent. And what happens when that happens is flutter.

[06:25:10] CAMEROTA: Oh, we have a flutter. So you can actually draw on this and tell me what that means.

SOUCIE: So if the flutter is, now this part is right down inside here.

CAMEROTA: That's where the flaperon is?

SOUCIE: Yes. But if we can go -- I don't know how to get that up here.

CAMEROTA: Hold on a second. Me neither.

SOUCIE: Something like that. OK. Well, what we have then, let's go back to the flaperon.

CAMEROTA: Oh, there we go.

SOUCIE: So what happens is we have air flow. And in a normal situation, the air flow goes over like this and creates lift. Right?

CAMEROTA: Yes.

SOUCIE: Now as it goes faster and faster and faster, this air flow goes further out and creates more lift. But at some point, this starts going close to the speed of sound, creating a shock wave. And the shock wave blocks air. So now the air can no longer go the way it was. It tries to get up and over, and it ends up burbling back here, like that.

CAMEROTA: Yes.

SOUCIE: So we get all this burbling air behind it. And it starts fluttering, starts flapping the back in this control surface. Eventually, it lets go, and it breaks here. It breaks here. It breaks here, and it crushes all this back here. Where did we see the barnacles?

CAMEROTA: OK.

SOUCIE: That's where we saw them.

CAMEROTA: So this is the scenario that you think happened. And that means that it didn't glide in; it went in a fast, more downward spiral?

SOUCIE: Right. And that was one of the options when investigators the tried to find the search area. One of the assumptions was that the aircraft continued to glide, which it can glide 70 or 80 miles. So that search area was expanded very wide.

If this is true, if this theory pans out, it's going to have a dramatic effect on the search area. A lot of this search area has already been looked at. But the areas that haven't been, out it looks, out in this area...

CAMEROTA: Yes.

SOUCIE: And up in here.

CAMEROTA: That has not been, you're saying this hasn't been searched?

SOUCIE: Correct. Most of the -- most of the primary search area is here.

CAMEROTA: OK.

SOUCIE: So most of that has been searching. This area has not.

CAMEROTA: Yes.

SOUCIE: There's a lot that hasn't. But they can tip -- they can actually rule out all this extra area. So you'd shrink that. So we could know very soon where that aircraft is. Because we're narrowing down that search area. CAMEROTA: And how quickly -- hmm, how quickly could we know if

this is actually MH370?

SOUCIE: It could be very quick. Because what's on the part, inside of the part, which is pretty tamper-proof, that they'll be looking at first is the part number for the assemblies. There's several assemblies within it. And that part number is 113-W and then 66-something at the end. So that's the number they'll know. So they'll know on the surface.

But we'll probably have to wait for a forensic analysis, which means that they'll test the metal to see if it was the metal that actually came from the manufacturer.

CAMEROTA: But we, the public could know today?

SOUCIE: It's possible. But these are professionals. They're not going to tell us anything until they're absolutely 100 percent done with the investigation. It may be a while.

CAMEROTA: Very, very quickly. The fact that the debris was found here, can we assume that there are investigators on this little island and this little island and around here looking for other debris?

SOUCIE: Not investigators. Because the investigators are focusing on the post-crash investigation. So...

CAMEROTA: So there are spotters? We're just hoping that random people find something?

SOUCIE: Most likely. There are probably some people that are within the police organizations and things like that of each of these countries that are looking, for sure. But it's important that they don't damage that once they see it.

CAMEROTA: Right, great point. David Soucie, thanks so much for all the information.

SOUCIE: You bet. Thank you.

CAMEROTA: You really helped us understand it.

Let's get over to Michaela.

PEREIRA: You've probably seen this video. It has sparked outrage nationwide. A Kentucky deputy handcuffing an 8-year-old little boy with ADHD inside his classroom. You might be surprised to learn who is now defending that officer.

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