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ANDREW STEVENS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: ... thinks it is a part of 370. And I was told that the transport minister says -- has been told that there is a maintenance seal on that flaperon which is -- which belongs to MAS, Malaysian Airline Systems, as it used to be called. He said there was also painting on the flaperon that matched and there was a serial number which matched, as well.

[07:00:19] So that is what the Malaysians are saying is why they are so confident right now that the flaperon at least is part of 370. There is still an awful lot of skepticism, though, particularly among the families of those on board. Listen to what a woman called Grace Nathan, whose mother was on that flight. I just spoke to her about an hour ago. Listen to what she had to say.

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GRACE NATHAN, DAUGHTER OF PASSENGER: Right now we lack a lot of confidence in the Malaysian government. So whatever they say, we just feel like, well, they rushed it or we just keep thinking of something to say. So perhaps, you know, at the end, if we find more pieces, and as they keep moving forward, maybe somewhere along the line we will find closure. But definitely for me and for most of us, this wasn't it.

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STEVENS: So an awful lot of distrust from family members, some family members here in Malaysia. Also, Chris and Alisyn, from Beijing, as well. Voices from Beijing this day saying they flat out do not believe the Malaysian government, the Malaysian prime minister that this piece of flaperon, this debris, is linked to 370.

Back to you both.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Well, trust is often about the past, and the Malaysian officials have been wrong. And the families feel that they've been mishandled. And that is going to stay with them every time they hear anything new. But Andrew, please -- thank you for the new information. Stay on it, and as we get new information, we'll bring it to you.

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: Great new information he just gave us about the serial number and the seal from Malaysian Airlines. Let's bring in now CNN safety analyst David Soucie. He's a

former FAA accident investigator and inspector.

David, great to have you with us this morning for this breaking news. Aircraft seat cushions and pieces of what appear to be window panes have been found. What do you make of it?

DAVID SOUCIE, CNN SAFETY ANALYST: If this is indeed from MH370, it could be a major game-changer. Because the fact is, if all of those parts went to that same location, and yet they're so diverse as far as how they would be affected by the currents and the wind, then that tells us that they may be -- the actual accident site might be much closer to Reunion than we originally suspected.

CAMEROTA: Because you wouldn't think that those pieces, being of different weight and material, would all end up in the same place at the same time?

SOUCIE: That's right. If you recall the speculation model that we are just using here as soon as last night, it showed how dispersed these things can get, particularly when they're that different in size and how much would be submerged versus how much is above water.

CUOMO: Right.

SOUCIE: So this could really, really change the way we view that search area for the underwater part of the aircraft.

CUOMO: And look, we get that. It's science, but some of it's soft science, and a little bit of it is alchemy. And it's currents and really, ballast doesn't travel just by its own weight but what it's being carried by. So that's going to be speculative by its nature.

But something that you will know, as a point of analysis, if it comes from inside the plane, as opposed to an exterior part like the wing, why is that so relevant to you?

SOUCIE: Well, because that does indicate that it was broken up, that the aircraft did hit hard enough. There's some speculation going back to this flaperon that it either was from a ditching, where the aircraft had made a fairly smooth landing, like on the Hudson and that the flaperon was torn off during that event. But in this case, if there's parts from the inside, it would indicate it was a much more violent impact into the water and ruptured the fuselage structure itself; thereby, the parts would be on the outside and floating.

CAMEROTA: The people who found this want to specify that these are very small pieces. It's possible that maybe these are not airplane cushions or window panes or aluminum material from a plane. Or it's possible that, David, that it's from a different plane.

SOUCIE: That's certainly possible, because these things are buoyant items, and they have closed cells, meaning that they don't get full of water and then sink over time. They're closed cell. That means that they could float indefinitely. So if it was from another aircraft, it's possible, highly unlikely, that you'd find debris that wasn't noticed before and now it is on those islands.

CUOMO: But you know what the -- I don't have to tell you, the skepticism is based on the Malaysians being wrong in the past. And people are going to ask for more verification now with this wing. They're having to come up with, like, 50 different points of minutia, you know, that lead you to the conclusion that it comes from the plane. But for the families, if for nothing else, it's better to be safe than sorry in these, right?

SOUCIE: Oh, absolutely. And the fact that the Malaysians are putting information out again and again, and the odd thing about this, too, is that it was the Malaysian investigators who are on site that found it. It wasn't the hundreds of other people that have been searching the site. It wasn't the helicopters. It was the Malaysian team that found it. Which is going to raise a lot of skepticism, even more skepticism with the families. And if you're thinking along the lines of some kind of hidden conspiracy or something like that, too. So the stories will keep going, I'm sure.

[07:05:10] CAMEROTA: So David, very quickly, just a few seconds: how soon until they can analyze this and get an answer?

SOUCIE: These are going to be more difficult to analyze because they're not serialized parts. So it's not going to be as definitive as it was for the flaperon.

CAMEROTA: OK. David Soucie, thanks so much for your expertise, as always.

CUOMO: All right. We also have more information this morning about the man who was shot and killed by Tennessee police. What he did, how he did it, it's new. Why this happened may matter most, and it is not new. He had been committed four different times in 11 years.

Let's go right to CNN's Nick Valencia, live from Nashville this morning. What do we know about what happened at the scene and about this guy was and what he was dealing with?

NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Chris. People here in Nashville praising the quick response of the police who prevented something that certainly could have been much worse.

The gunman showed up at this theater yesterday afternoon. He purchased a ticket and went inside, prepared to carry out an attack.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This shady-looking guy stood up, with like two bags, and he walked toward the back of the theater.

VALENCIA (voice-over): A frantic 911 call released this morning reveals the chilling moments inside the Nashville, Tennessee, theater.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He pulled out like a hatchet and started attacking this family. And then he pulled out a gun, and we all ran out of the theater.

VALENCIA: Twenty-nine-year-old Vincente David Montano stormed into the 1 p.m. theater showing of "Mad Max" Wednesday, wearing a surgical mask, armed with an Airsoft gun, a hatchet, and cans of pepper spray.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We heard screams coming from another theater.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We thought it was a scary movie.

VALENCIA: Montano attacking this father, slicing his shoulder with the ax, causing minor injury. His wife and child, doused with pepper spray.

"STEVEN," VICTIM OF THEATER ATTACK: I'm eternally grateful -- excuse me -- for the Metro Police Department for their fast response today and the fact that no one else got injured.

VALENCIA: Racing to the scene, two officers working a car crash right in front of the Nashville theater.

DON AARON, NASHVILLE POLICE SPOKESMAN: The officers stopped what they were doing and immediately ran to the meter. Our response to the theater was probably 60 to 90 seconds.

VALENCIA: At first Officer Jonathan Firth, a six-year veteran, ran inside. Montano raised his gun, and Firth fired, backing out of the theater.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All cars, be advised. We got shots fired, officer involved.

VALENCIA: Minutes later, the SWAT team converged into the theater, donning gas masks, when the suspect tried to escape. A firefight ensued.

AARON: The gunman tried to go out through a rear door. There were other officers waiting.

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VALENCIA: Montano was believed to have been homeless with a lengthy history of mental illness. His mother told police that her son was a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic. Motive still unclear, Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: Oh, my goodness, Nick. So tragic. Thanks so much for your reporting.

Back to politics, the first debate of the 2016 presidential race is tonight in case you hadn't heard. Ten Republicans gearing up for the debate. Seven who did not make the cut will take part in what's being called the happy hour debate at 5 p.m. And we will speak with one of those candidates, Rick Santorum, in a moment. But CNN's complete debate coverage begins with political reporter

Sara Murray. She's live in Cleveland.

How are the preparations going, Sara?

SARA MURRAY, CNN POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Alisyn.

Things are starting to get underway here. The big debate is tonight, as you pointed out. And candidates are trying to fit in those last-minute preparations, whether it means debate prep, a fund- raising event or just working on those zingers. Let's take a look at how they're getting ready.

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MURRAY (voice-over): It's debate day, the biggest day in the campaign so far, when ten Republican candidates make their case to voters and possibly score political points against their rivals. Marco Rubio spent the night before the first GOP debate in a bar in Cleveland.

SEN. MARCO RUBIO (R-FL), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I came in early today, trying to convince LeBron James to come back to Miami. Just wanted you to know.

(BOOS)

MURRAY: Ahead of tonight's debate, the candidates are deploying all kinds of tactics to prepare and to shake off their nerves. After a couple of political stumbles this week...

JEB BUSH (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: You could take dollar for dollar, although I'm not sure we need a half a billion dollars for women's health issues.

MURRAY: ... Jeb Bush will spend the morning going to mass.

And Scott Walker is kicking off his day at the Wisconsin State Fair before hopping a flight to Ohio.

But the man who is overshadowing them all, Donald Trump, is laying low. He's expected to land in Cleveland this afternoon, debate and depart the very same night. His rival campaigns say they don't have much interest in taking on Trump onstage, a strategy that would be high risk.

MICHAEL COHEN, TRUMP ORGANIZATION: If you attack Donald Trump, and look what happened to Lindsey Graham, not even in the debate. Look what happened to Rick Perry, not even in the debate. If you attack Donald Trump, he's going to come back at you twice as hard.

[07:10:09] MURRAY: Instead, candidates like Chris Christie and Scott Walker are hoping for a chance to take Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton to task on issues from the Iran deal to her support for Planned Parenthood. You can bet every candidate on that stage is looking for a

breakout moment. But for now, they're keeping their strategies close to the vest.

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MURRAY: Now remember tonight's debate is a double-header. We'll have the primetime debate at 9 p.m. But we're also having what Lindsey Graham is calling the happy hour debate at 5 p.m. for candidates who are lower in the polls. That's where we'll see Graham, Rick Perry, Rick Santorum and Carly Fiorina among others. And a lot of campaigns are telling me they're relieved to be able to get their debate moment without the distraction of Donald Trump onstage.

Back to you, Chris.

CUOMO: All right. Thank you for the reporting. We'll check back with you.

Let's bring in one of those candidates who will be onstage tonight, but he won't be in the primetime debate with Donald Trump. He'll be in the 5 p.m., the so-called happy hour debate. Republican candidate Rick Santorum, the runner up for the Republican nomination in 2012. Not only relevant as history, but also relevant to you about why you believe tonight is not only wrong, but is it true, sir, that you believe that the RNC should be apologizing to people like you?

RICK SANTORUM (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Well, I just think it's -- when you have an abundant of riches, which we do in the Republican Party, if you look at the fact that we have, you know, over a dozen candidates who are clearly very qualified, competent leaders, the fact that we're arbitrarily limiting that debate is, I just think, a disservice to the American public. And you know, if I was the Republican Party, I'd be boasting about our riches, not trying to cull the field by -- by debate rules.

CAMEROTA: So how would you have done it, Senator? And are you looking for them to apologize to you and the other candidates who are in the earlier forum?

SANTORUM: Well, what I've suggested from the very beginning is let everybody in. Divide it up randomly between -- between two debates. You know, have eight people on a stage a piece. That way you really can have an opportunity to see, and let the public decide, you know, who the best candidate is.

I mean, I've been out there, you know, talking about how we're going to create jobs for working Americans. Others have been talking about national security. Others have been talking about, you know, issues like -- like the marriage debate. And all of those things are important to sort of get a sense and the flavor of what candidates are all about.

CAMEROTA: So have you heard from the RNC? Have they apologized to you?

SANTORUM: Well, I haven't heard anything yet and don't anticipate hearing anything yet.

You know, we've always been the candidate that -- that ever since my first race in 1990, we've been fighting the establishment. We've been the guy on the outside looking in and, you know, we've done pretty well. We've gone up against city hall in Washington and passed a lot of reforms. We've run some tough races, again, against the establishment; and we're doing the same thing here. And it all works for me. You know, I like coming from behind and being the underdog and trying to fight through the pack. I did it four years ago. I have every confidence we can do it again.

CUOMO: But fair enough. I mean, you know, you can complain about how the RNC is doing it, how FOX is doing it in this first debate. But at the end of the day, the polls do matter and you're not doing well in the polls, and neither is the group that's at 5 instead of at 9. And shouldn't that be relevant in deciding who is on and when, if at all?

SANTORUM: Chris, two weeks before the Iowa caucuses, I was at 2 percent in the national polls; and I won the Iowa caucuses and went on to win ten other states. So it's an irrelevant -- it's not a predictor of anything. National -- it's not a national race. It's a state-by-state race.

And again, that's what I'm focused on. I want to talk to the people in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina. I've been in those states the last few weeks. We'll continue to focus on where the race is. And that starts first and foremost in Iowa.

And we've got a strong message there that I think will appeal to the people who feel very much left behind by this economy. Folks who are not rising, seeing their wages flat-lining. And they look -- they're looking for somebody who's going to be out there fighting for them to create opportunities for them and their family. And that's the message we're going to deliver, and think it's going to be successful.

CAMEROTA: Senator, let's talk about some of the issues that are sure to crop up tonight. One of them that has been very hot in the past couple of weeks is Planned Parenthood and whether or not it should be de-funded. I know you support that, but the public opinion polls do not support that. A majority of Americans do not think that Planned Parenthood should be defunded, 49 versus 39 percent. And they also don't think that abortion should be banned. Is this a winning issue for the Republicans?

SANTORUM: Well, no one is talking about banning abortions when it comes to the Planned Parenthood debate. We're talking about providing money, federal taxpayer dollars, for an organization that is doing barbaric things, performing these horrific procedures, all for the purpose of trying to market these organs and sell organs.

[07:14:57] I mean, this is -- this is part of the dehumanization that we see that abortion is all about. Planned Parenthood, from its very beginning, was founded by someone who believed -- who was a eugenicist, who believed that the black race should be culled out. And that -- and that this organization is doing the same thing. It's dehumanizing the child in the womb just like they were trying to dehumanize blacks many, many years ago. That's wrong, and we should not be providing federal funds to an organization that is doing these types of barbaric things.

CAMEROTA: Well, Planned Parenthood says that no federal funds, because of the Hyde Amendment, go to abortions. And they say that, if you defund them, that they end up going away. The services that they provide for women, the health services, birth control, et cetera, that all that goes away. And it ends up making abortion much less accessible. And I know that that's your goal, but that's not where the public is at the moment.

SANTORUM: Well, I would just say this. There are plenty of health organizations out there that don't do this type of barbaric thing. They don't -- don't co-mingle.

Look, these -- you're giving money to an organization. The idea that you can separate them is ridiculous. The bottom line is Planned Parenthood is given a half a billion dollars a year for things that can be done in a whole lot of other places...

CUOMO: But Senator...

SANTORUM: ... that are much less objectionable to enter (ph). These are -- these are dollars that hard-working taxpayers pay into Washington, and they shouldn't be used for morally objectionable purposes.

CUOMO: But Senator, here's the thing: Are they morally objectable [SIC] -- objectionable? That's up to you. Are they legal? Yes. Unless you have proof of otherwise. Are they co-mingling funds? No. Unless you have proof otherwise.

SANTORUM: I -- I would say this...

CUOMO: My question to you, Senator, is do you have proof that they are doing anything that is illegal? Because that's the way you sound, like we know they're doing barbaric and terrible things. We do not know that unless we know that they're doing something that the law has not allowed for quite some time.

SANTORUM: I'm very familiar with the law, Chris, because I passed it. I wrote the partial birth abortion statute. And if you listen to the tapes and you look at what the procedures are, they're doing just that. They're manipulating the baby in the woman to deliver the baby feet first and then -- so the organs aren't hurt, and then they're crushing the skull. That's a partial birth abortion. That's illegal under federal law. I know because I drafted the statute. And it's a statute that is a federal law that's in place. It's a criminal procedure. So I know for sure they're doing that. The marketing...

CUOMO: How do you know for sure they're doing it?

SANTORUM: They're not allowed to do that. CUOMO: How do you know for sure they're doing it when Planned

Parenthood says they're not doing it? There's been no investigation of it.

SANTORUM: I have ears and eyes, Chris. That's how I know.

CUOMO: You're relying on something that you know wouldn't be admissible in court. So we don't really know.

Why not investigate, find out and, if you're right, immediately cut the funding, immediately change what happens with Planned Parenthood? But shouldn't you know first before you just completely convince everybody that something is going on that we don't know?

SANTORUM: I think we have fairly good evidence, but I would embrace your call, Chris, to do a full investigation. I hope the Obama administration is going to do that. I hope the Justice Department is going to fully investigate this, try to get to the bottom of it, and actually, you know, do something that they haven't done before, which is to go after their political supporters instead of after Republican political supporters, which this administration is very, very famous of doing.

CAMEROTA: Rick Santorum, former senator, we will be watching you tonight. Best of luck up there, and thanks so much for making time for NEW DAY.

SANTORUM: Thank you.

CUOMO: I appreciate you coming on to be tested on these issues that matter, Senator. You've done it before, and we hope you do it again. Thank you, sir.

SANTORUM: Thank you, Chris. You bet.

CAMEROTA: All right. So we're going to talk much more about what we can expect tonight with Rudy Giuliani; of course, former mayor of New York City. He has taken part in GOP debates himself.

CUOMO: Look at that bow tie.

CAMEROTA: I know. Very dapper.

CUOMO: Fetching.

CAMEROTA: We will also talk with RCN chair Reince Priebus about what he's expecting and if he thinks he owes Senator Rick Santorum and others an apology.

CUOMO: Now, something you will definitely, hopefully, hear about tonight, and a lot, is what's going on with the Iran deal. And we have news there.

President Obama tried selling that deal. Now he's making Congress an offer he says they can't review -- refuse. In his most aggressive speech on the issue yet, he says rejecting the deal is a vote for war.

Let's get right to the White House correspondent, Michelle Kosinski.

He said a lot more than that. Boy, he was making analogies to wrong thinking, to saying America must die, as an analogy to the Republican Caucus. I mean, he really threw some big bombs, metaphorically.

MICHELLE KOSINSKI, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Yes, I mean, this was different. He really criticized his critics in this speech, and the criticism to that came swiftly, although from the expected sources.

I mean, the Republicans, you could say, were none too pleased with him saying that Iranian hard-liners were making common cause with the Republican Caucus. Senate Majority Leader mitch McConnell said that even Democrats who are simply questioning the deal or wanting to look more closely into it also have reason to be offended when the president said things like this.

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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Those making this argument are either ignorant of Iranian society or they're just not being straight with the American people. Those who say we can just walk away from this deal and maintain sanctions are selling a fantasy.

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[07:20:05] KOSINSKI: The president really wants to hit home how momentous this decision is. He invoked history, the diplomacy of Kennedy and Reagan, comparing this to the decision to go to war in Iraq. Again, though, framing it in these terms of it being a decision between diplomacy and war.

And we know that not all Democrats agree with that in making that argument.

And the president said while he understands the deep concerns that Israelis have over this deal, that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, in his opposition, is simply wrong -- Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: OK, Michelle. Thanks so much for all of that.

So Republicans, of course, making their final preparations for the first presidential debate. What are they doing, exactly to get ready? We will ask someone who has done all this before. Rudy Giuliani joins us live.

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CUOMO: Just like at the beginning of a WW -- you know, MMA match...

CAMEROTA: Yes? CUOMO: It is time. All eyes will be on the Republicans as they

face off in their first debate. There are ten of them on the big stage. Right? And then you have the earlier debate, as well. How are they prepping?

[07:25:00] We have people joining us live to figure that out. We have Alex Castellanos, Republican consultant, the founder of NewRepublican.org, as well as Patti Solis Doyle, CNN political commentator and former Hillary Clinton presidential campaign manager.

Clue us in, Patti, on the intrigue of preparation and the kinds of people these candidates gather around them and the mock debating that goes on and the policy prep. How does it work?

PATTI SOLIS DOYLE, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, you know, normally -- I've been involved in some debate prep with Hillary Clinton. And normally, we have weeks and weeks of putting briefing books together on each of the hot-button issues. We have a mock debate. You know, we have someone playing the other opponents.

But in this case, with Donald Trump as the frontrunner, I honestly don't know what he's doing. He's saying he's not preparing. And he really doesn't have any policies to speak of, right? He hasn't really shown us any. So I think he's just really practicing his showmanship and his one-liners, if he's practicing at all.

CAMEROTA: Alex, this is not your first rodeo, of course. You've been around debate prep yourself for a long time. How would you be prepping Donald Trump?

ALEX CASTELLANOS, REPUBLICAN CONSULTANT: I would be prepping Donald Trump? Donald Trump is not exactly known as a great listener. So I don't know that you could have a -- his advisors are going to have that much impact. Trump is Trump. I think Patti is right: he's going to be himself up there. I think it's the other nine gladiators that are going to be in the coliseum with him that are -- they're the ones prepping.

CUOMO: And when you say prepping, one of the interesting things that happens in a debate brings the Dan Quayle-Lloyd Bentsen moment to mind, where Dan Quayle had been analogizing himself to John Kennedy. So Bentsen had time to prepare.

Similarly, these ten have been saying repetitive things. So how does it work in terms of getting your one-liner ready? Do you have somebody dedicated to just writing those? You know, are you trying to pick your moments? Is there a playbook?

SOLIS DOYLE: Well, look, I think...

CAMEROTA: I'm sorry. Go ahead.

SOLIS DOYLE: You know, I think there is someone out there trying to pick the right moment, writing the one-liners. And you look for that. I think in this particular case, because Trump is such a wild

card, it's going to be very difficult. This -- this debate is tailor- made for Donald Trump. It is 90 minutes once you factor the commercial breaks. It's ten candidates, nine minutes per candidate, if you're lucky. And there's not a lot of time for policy discussions. There's not a lot of time for discourse on substance. It's really going to be about the one-liners, about the clever soundbite. So you really need to come up with those in this debate and be prepared for them.

CAMEROTA: OK, so Alex, as all the candidates are preparing their zingers, what do you -- what do you normally tell candidates to try to avoid?

CASTELLANOS: Well, you -- you try to avoid a moment of weakness. What you prep a candidate for and what you try to help them prepare for is what we call a moment of strength, M.O.S., because these things are gladiatorial contests. We want to see -- these are kind of alpha- dog battles.

If you can't stand up to Chris Christie, or Donald Trump, how are you going to stand up to Putin? So these are -- these are tests of strength. And that moment of strength, where you give as good as you get.

You mentioned the Lloyd Bentsen-Quayle moment. Ronald Reagan, "I paid for this microphone." So they're not just zingers; they're not cute lines. They actually have a purpose, and that's to demonstrate that you have the strength of character, the resolve, the quick- wittedness to lead the free world.

CUOMO: Well, you know, NewRepublican.org is the name of your organization that you founded, right? And I'm not just giving you a plug, Alexa. What I'm saying is that the new reality for the GOP seems to be what Donald Trump is the face of right now. "We're angry. You guys don't get it done, and you don't tell us the truth about not getting it done."

How do you take that from Donald Trump? How do you prep someone to own that? Because you don't win by bashing Trump; you win by owning his base.

CASTELLANOS: No. That's exactly right. And here's what you do. Candidates like Trump usually aren't defeated; they're exhausted. Their anger burns bright and hot. And it's legitimate anger.

Republicans, we know we're part of the problem in Washington. Trump has tapped a vein there. But that anger burns bright for a while, but after a while, voters want to turn anger into action. What are you going to do about it?

And so Howard Dean has his scream, but eventually, somebody harnesses that heat that he generates as their fuel and says, "OK, I'm going to lead the country in a better direction. We're going to reform the Republican Party. We're going to clean our house before we can clean anyone else's." CAMEROTA: Alex Castellanos, Patti Solis Doyle, thanks so much

for giving us your take on what to be watching tonight.

And what is your take at home? Tweet us, please, using the hashtag #NewDayCNN or post your comment on Facebook.com/NewDay. We'll look forward to reading those.

CUOMO: All right. So it is the secret phone call raising a lot of eyebrows. What did Donald Trump and Bill Clinton...