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Second Blast Rocks Bangkok After Deadly Attack, Hundreds of Clinton Emails Flagged for Review. Aired 6:30-7a ET

Aired August 18, 2015 - 06:30   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

[06:30:00] CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: We are going to talk more about it later in the show.

Also, as you hopefully know, NEW DAY has an open invite to all candidates to come on and talk to news and issues, Hillary, Bernie, Donald, Jeb. You know, everybody has the invite out there.

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: First name basis on all of that.

CUOMO: We heard them all the time. Well, not good enough because they don't all come on the show. But today, we have Texas Governor Rick Perry. We have former Governor George Pataki. Both coming on the show. Let's put them in who would be your leader to the test.

CAMEROTA: Will do. Also a reminder, CNN will host the next Republican debate on September 16. Set your watches now.

CUOMO: I don't have one.

MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: If you don't have a watch, don't worry. We'll remind you.

We'll have more on the top story. Police in Bangkok were searching frantically for the suspect in the deadly explosion and who could be responsible for this horrific crime. We have a live report coming your way next.

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[06:35:01] PEREIRA: All right. Breaking news that we are following. Thai officials are investigating a second blast that was heard overnight at a pier in Bangkok. You can see it happened there.

Police are working to identify this man seen in surveillance footage suspected of being involved in the bombing outside a popular shrine.

Let's get the latest from CNN's Andrew Stevens live in Bangkok with all the breaking details for us.

What are we learning?

ANDREW STEVENS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, that new suspect is definitely the strongest lead at this hour, Michaela. Police changing their language significantly going from wanting a man to question decide that they have a suspect. The man in the yellow shirt wearing dark rimmed glasses, seen wearing a backpack into the shrine and leaving moments later without the backpack. Some reports saying that he's seen clearly taking it carefully off and putting it on the ground before he left.

Don't know at this stage anything about the identity of this man. He's a young man. Police don't know whether he is a Thai national or foreigner. It's too early to tell. They are combing through a lot of video to see if there's anything unusual leading up to it. There's also video which had been handed by people who actually took video of the moment.

Also as you say, this second explosion in Bangkok, no direct link at this stage, with certainly the signs sort of point to the fact they could be linked. It was what looks like a handheld device, which is thrown. No injuries. We are told police are on the scene.

But that is also being very, very closely looked at to see what's going on here. The Thai government saying clearly, this is an attack on tourism. If you look at these horrific scenes, that moment of impact, the blast taken from that night. You can see the chaos, horrific scenes and the strength of the blast, Alisyn.

And the government saying this is very, very clearly targeting tourist, to hurt tourism, to hurt the economy. They've got their suspect. They know the suspect. They just don't know what the motive is on the moment, Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: Let's hope they find the suspect to speak to him about all of that. Andrew, thanks so much.

Back here at home, the sweltering heat continues to grip the East Coast.

Let's get right to meteorologist Chad Myers with the latest forecast.

What are you seeing, Chad?

CHAD MYERS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Another hot day. New York City got to a feels like temperature of 101. It's still hot. The cooler air is way back out to the west, keeping the Northern Plains cool.

Hot, hot, hot, humidity as well. So, the heat index 96 to 98 degrees. A few showers in the forecast coming on Thursday afternoon, that's tomorrow afternoon as we move into the next couple of days. A cold front will cool you down nicely. By Friday, you'll be back to the 70s, to almost 80 degrees.

Chris, back to you.

CUOMO: All right. Thank you, Chad. Appreciate you following it for us.

So, more than 300 Hillary Clinton e-mails flagged for potentially classified information. This is being done by five different investigative agencies under a Democratic administration. So, the question is, is it really just about politics? What are the real legal issues and potential fallout for the Democratic front- runner? We are going to be talking to a former Clinton campaign manager. Check it out, next.

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[06:42:27] CAMEROTA: Hillary Clinton's e-mail troubles growing. Intelligence officials now flagging 300 e-mails from Clinton's personal e-mail server from further review. So, how much of a hit is this to her campaign?

Let's bring in CNN political commentator and former Hillary Clinton presidential campaign manager, Patti Solis Doyle.

Good morning, Patti.

PATTI SOLIS DOYLE, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Hi. Good morning. How are you?

CAMEROTA: We are doing well. This e-mail mess appears to be getting messier.

The FBI flagged 300 e-mails for further review.

CUOMO: So far.

CAMEROTA: So far.

And the Senate Judiciary Committee wants to know why Hillary's personal lawyer, David Kendall, has three thumb drives of 30,000 e- mail, some of the information they believe marked secret. It doesn't appear to be getting better.

DOYLE: Well, look, you know, back in March, when Hillary Clinton first addressed this issue, she used her personal e-mail out of convenience. But, she went right after that and said that looking back, it probably would have been better to have used a government e- mail, probably, truer words have never been spoken.

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DOYLE: This has been anything but convenience, right.

CAMEROTA: Right. So, he's admitted a mistake. But it seems to go further. There was classified information on there. The secretary of state should know better.

DOYLE: Well, look, having said that was a mistake, she has turned over her server to the FBI. She has given more than 30,000 work related e-mails to the state department and asked they be released publicly. She's agreed to testify in front of the Benghazi committee in October where she's going to be grilled for hours upon hours and answer the questions.

So, at this point, I don't think there's much more that she can do. I think we have to wait and see where this inquiry leads.

CUOMO: No, you know what it is, Patti? Here is the thing. Let me take you down a different avenue. Alisyn is saying she should know better. You can argue that point.

I think that the more complicating and potentially pernicious aspect is that she did know better. The Clinton's new better. That's why they had the server set up in the first place. That's why she refused to turn it over. That's why she scrubbed it.

And now, she's saying she go along after all the scrubbing and she's still saying it's political. The most direct question and of course we can't get Hillary out to answer it now, but, do you think, as a Clinton friendly, this is just political at this point?

[06:45:04] DOYLE: Look, I think -- the fact that the FBI is looking at it --

CUOMO: Five investigative agencies.

DOYLE: I agree. I agree. But, they have also said this is not a criminal investigation. She is not the target. That this is an inquiry to see whether this information --

CUOMO: But how has the Obama administration tasking look with five different agencies purely political? That's where the trust factor comes in, right? Shouldn't you be saying no, it's not purely political, but we don't think anything that's going to come from? Shouldn't that be an answer?

DOYLE: Well, it's not purely political.

CUOMO: That's what she said.

DOYLE: Well, it is not purely political. She also said it was a mistake to have done it. And now, the inquiry is going to move forward and we are going to find out what we find out.

But as far as what she can do, she has done it. She has answered questions from the press. She is going to testify. She's handed over the server. So, now, we are going to move forward.

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CAMEROTA: Hold on a second. Help us understand one thing. She has said, the secretary of state, the former secretary of state said none of the information was classified when she sent it and received it. But how is that possible that someone could be secretary of state for years and not be reading classified information on their e-mail?

DOYLE: Well, from my understanding, the information that she handed over to the state department, the e-mails, it was classified post -- you know, when they got it. They reviewed it, it was classified after the fact.

CAMEROTA: And that's what you and she and her campaign have said. However, the inspector general said that that's not true. It was classified before the fact.

I mean, to my larger point, doesn't the secretary of state often read classified e-mail? Doesn't it stand to reason some of it would be classified while she was in that post?

DOYLE: Well, what she said is it wasn't marked classified. I know that's a -- you know, slight distinction, but it wasn't mark classified. Also, it's worth pointing out, she didn't send these classified e-mails.

CUOMO: Patti, here is my thing. You are a political person. You understand running campaign. You are not a lawyer or forensics looking at e-mails.

This has been handled lousy by them from the beginning. It's what's fueling her biggest knock right now. Yes, Bernie Sanders is tapping into something that is left and cultural. Which Democratic candidate is most honest and trustworthy is not only popping sanders to 35 percent and Clinton at 28 percent, which she should never be at given her hold on the Democratic super structure. And it's making Biden relevant at 23 percent when he hasn't even said he's been in.

So, don't you see the handling of this as something that she needs to clean up immediately?

DOYLE: Look, I agree it is a political problem, absolutely, because here we are on this hot, Monday morning talking about Hillary's e-mails as opposed to talking about this, you know, expansive policy agenda she's given out already in the few months she's announced running for president.

She's talked about college affordability. She's talked the economy. She's about criminal justice. She's talked about climate. She's talked about so many issues.

But here we are talking about e-mail.

CUOMO: But she's also talking about it selectively, Patti. Please extend the invitation. Say it's from Alisyn, make it even more --

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CUOMO: Come on the show. Talk about the issues.

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CAMEROTA: We would love to talk to her. Please let her know that.

And, Patti, great to talk to you this morning. Thanks so much.

DOYLE: Great talking to you. Thank you.

CUOMO: What do you think? Is Camerota right and Cuomo crazy?

As usual, use the #NewDayCNN or boost your comment on Facebook.com/NewDay.

CAMEROTA: Am I more appealing than Chris or not?

CUOMO: Well, that's easy. My mother would say yes to that one. We are on the same page on this one pretty much, that, you know, this can't be just about politics. So, what do you think?

Now, it's early, not too early for five investigative agencies to be looking at you. We have the polls. And we are trying to see what predictability they have about your Republican and Democratic nominations. Is there a magic number for a candidate?

History is a guide and we have someone who knows history coming up.

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[06:53:40] PEREIRA: Good to have you back with us on NEW DAY.

New CNN/ORC polls are out. They still show Donald Trump with quite a commanding lead. Does it necessarily mean he has a lock on the Republican nomination? Shall we go back in time?

John Avlon is here. He's a CNN political analyst and the editor-in-chief of "The Daily Beast".

We're going to break down some of the numbers, because I think perspective, by looking at past elections and where they were at this point, what 400 and something days. I don't have it tattooed. The number can't count down.

So, if we look at what's happening now, here is what we have been talking about ad nauseam about where the current status is right now.

JOHN AVLON, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Yes, this is the status of the circus.

PEREIRA: Should we go back in time? Let's travel back in time at this point in 2011. We are going to ignore that widget there. Rick Perry, who's under there, Rick Perry had 27 percent at this point in the game.

AVLON: That's right. More than Trump right now. Just reality check here, folks.

PEREIRA: And reality check as well, Rick Perry right now is 2 percent.

AVLON: Rick Perry has slid - considerably from the high water mark. This is an important reality check. Rick Perry had a commanding lead, almost twice what Romney had at this point in the cycle. Romney went nowheresville in last election and he's somewhere of south of nowheresville now.

[06:55:00] PEREIRA: And more importantly, what happened to Rick Perry?

AVLON: Well, that's right. First of all, he had a couple major gaffes on the stump. Remember the oops moment? Love that. And just generally, a philandering campaign, high expectations, really roared in because there was dissatisfaction about the state of the rest of the field, but failure to convert. Failure to convert when it came to debates and obviously when voting came.

This is just another reminder, folks, we are still a long way from the voting cast.

PEREIRA: Should we go further back in time because we can?

AVLON: Just remember the people who finally competed with them.

PEREIRA: This is worthy of note.

AVLON: Newt Gingrich gave him a run for the money early. Santorum, that lowly 1 percent, won Iowa. So, the people who end up in the polls --

PEREIRA: Are still players.

AVLON: Still players, they end up in the top three. They are barely registering at this point in the cycle.

PEREIRA: Which is important for us to know. Again, really quickly, look back at the players where we are currently. Don't discount the folks in the single digits is what you are saying.

AVLON: That's right.

PEREIRA: OK. Let us go even further back in our time machine. I remember 2007, I had less gray in my hair then.

OK. So, we know, you worked inside Giuliani's campaign.

AVLON: I did. I did.

PEREIRA: You have insight there.

But we also know that this man became the nominee but was in third place at this point.

AVLON: Not only third place, but a brutal fund raising cycle. John McCain was the second place runner up in the 2000 cycle, winning New Hampshire, inspirational campaign, had totally failed to raise money at this point in the '08 cycle. Rudy Giuliani, my old boss, was running high in the polls.

PEREIRA: High.

AVLON: And Fred Thompson, a late entry was number two. The person at 27 percent, higher than Trump is today, the campaign failed to convert when it came to actual votes in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina and, of course, in Florida.

PEREIRA: Can you almost see the moment when it happens?

AVLON: No. What you can tell is when you are in October/November, when you start getting the polling solidifying, Iowa was in January. This year, it's February, 2016.

You really can hit a pivot point. This is silly season. They start to solidify it come fall. That's when perceptions harden.

And, obviously, the people that gave McCain a run for his money. Romney give him a run for his money and Huckabee, 2 percent. He ended winning a number of states.

PEREIRA: On the Democratic side, we know this was happening here. Obama was at 21 percent, Hillary Clinton was taking the lead. Do you think Hillary has learned from this about having such a commanding lead?

AVLON: Every Hillary staffer and donor hopes to God she has, because that obviously didn't work out. Barack Obama was a strong second place here catapulted ahead. The candidate was running on inevitability. So, that is a sea change in the way the Democratic Party ran things before. Hillary Clinton trying to desperately avoid those mistakes she made last time.

PEREIRA: We have the benefit of looking back in time. It's nice to do so with you. Thank you for traveling in my time machine.

AVLON: I like your time machine. I like perspective.

PEREIRA: Fast forwarding back to current perspective, we've got a lot of news to get to this morning. Let's get to it.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thai officials are on the hunt for this man.

CUOMO: This blast comes less than 24 hours after the deadly bombing.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A lot of damage.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A vicious and cruel attack.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The ones that ended up underneath --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There were no survivors.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The worst concerns from the Indonesian plane.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They also retrieved the black box and there was no distress signal.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Trump leading the Republican pack.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. Trump is a clear front-runner in this race for the president of the United States and will be the nominee.

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We are going to keep the families together, but they have to go.

SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R-SC), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Trump's eight-page plan is gibberish.

ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo, Alisyn Camerota and Michaela Pereira.

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CAMEROTA: And good morning again, everyone. Welcome back to your NEW DAY.

We do begin with breaking news. There's been another blast overnight in Bangkok, Thailand. At this hour, it does not appear that anyone was hurt.

CUOMO: The explosion comes as officials work around the clock to identify and track down the suspect behind Monday's bombing outside a popular shrine. That one killed 22 people, injured over 100.

Now, we want you to take a look at this new video. This is whom the authorities are now -- they are being shady in truth about who they are looking at and why. It is early. They don't want to divulge information. But they have highlighted this man in this very identifiable t-shirt. This was at the Monday bombing. This is who they are looking for now.

Let's get more context on this with CNN correspondent Andrew Stevens live this morning in Bangkok.

Shady probably isn't the right word. But they are very hands on in terms of saying what they want to identify as a suspect, what they don't, what they think the link is. What's the reason for that?

STEVENS: Yes, they definitely chasing the language on this. It started as a person of interest connected to the blast. Now, they are saying we have this suspect.

It seems to be the video is showing pictures of this man clearly identified, as you say, wearing a yellow shirt with a backpack going into the shrine.