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Jeb Bush Appears on "Late Show" with Stephen Colbert; Kentucky County Clerk Who Refused to Issue Same Sex Marriage Licenses Released from Jail; Interview with Presidential Candidate Mike Huckabee; British Airways Plane Catches Fire on Las Vegas Runway; Interview with Trump Counsel Michael Cohen on Trump's Positions. Aired 8-8:30a ET

Aired September 09, 2015 - 08:00   ET

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[08:00:00] HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE: I can have a perfectly fine life not being president. I'm going to fight for all the people like my mother, who need somebody in their corner.

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JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: And today she's moving on to foreign policy. She's delivering a speech later this morning explaining her strong support for the Iran nuclear agreement, addressing skeptics, including many Democrats, providing a counterargument also to Donald Trump and Ted Cruz who are rallying against the plan today on Capitol Hill. Chris?

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: All right, Jeff, it seems like there's something in the water. Hillary Clinton apologizing, Jeb Bush taking to late night TV and criticizing his brother's lack of fiscal control. And then Donald Trump saying, while he hates the concept, this situation with the migrants, we should take some in. Both are planning appearances today on the heels of big media appearances last night. Let's get a roundup of what was said and the impact of it with CNN's Athena Jones live in Washington. Athena?

ATHENA JONES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Chris. That was certainly an unexpected response to the migrant crisis from Donald Trump. He's also doing something else unusual later today. As Jeff mentioned, he's pairing up with another Republican candidate for a rally outside the U.S. capital.

Meanwhile, Jeb Bush is trying to show off his funny and his fiscal sides all as this post Labor Day pre-debate push gets into full swing.

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STEPHEN COLBERT, LATE NIGHT TALK SHOW HOST: Governor Jeb Bush!

JONES: Governor Jeb Bush making his late night debut on the premier of "The Late Show" with Stephen Colbert.

COLBERT: In what ways do you politically differ from your brother George?

(LAUGHTER) (APPLAUSE)

JEB BUSH, (R) FORMER FLORIDA GOVERNOR: I'm obviously younger. Much better looking.

JONES: Zeroing in on his self-touted forte, the budget.

BUSH: I think he should have brought the hammer down on the Republicans when they were spending way too much. He didn't bring order, fiscal restraint.

They called me Veto Corleone in Florida, because I vetoed 2,500 separate line items in the budget.

JONES: Later today Bush is said to unveil his tax reform plan during a speech in North Carolina, laying out the details in a new op-ed in "The Wall Street Journal," saying his tax overhaul will unleash four percent economic growth.

Meanwhile, Trump releasing yet another slam ad on Instagram Tuesday, doubling down on his attacks that Jeb Bush is, quote, "low energy."

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Too much energy? Need some low energy?

BUSH: They have an HAS in some companies. Some companies don't. But I think the norm ought to be --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jeb, for all your sleeping needs.

JONES: Trump also planning to join forces with Ted Cruz later today, protesting president Obama's Iran deal. In his own op-ed in "USA Today" Trump blasts the deal, calling it, quote, "amateur hour," a sentiment he echoed on Tuesday night on FOX News.

DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I will renegotiate that deal. And I will make it - and that's what I do. That's what I do in life.

JONES: Trump also weighing in on the European migrant crisis.

TRUMP: I wonder, you know, where all these people are coming from exactly and do you have people from ISIS in that group.

His response to the possibility of these migrants being welcomed in the U.S. a stark difference from his tough talk on immigration.

TRUMP: I hate the concept of it, but on a humanitarian basis with what's happening, you have to.

JONES: And as former brain surgeon Ben Carson continues to surge in the polls, he is now confronted with questions about joining a potential Trump ticket.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You on track to win the nomination, will you name Donald Trump as your vice president?

(LAUGHTER)

BEN CARSON, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: All things are possible.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Will you serve as his vice president?

CARSON: All things are possible.

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JONES: It really does seem like all things are possible in this election season. And as for that rally Trump is having with Ted Cruz later today, it's rare to see rivals for the party's nomination join together for such an event. But it should be interesting and we'll certainly be watching. Michaela.

MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: Well, I think it's because these are uncommon days. Athena, we have certainly seen a lot of things we haven't seen before and probably will continue for the next year or so. Thanks so much for that.

Kentucky clerk Kim Davis is free this morning. Davis walked out of jail Tuesday with GOP candidate Mike Huckabee by her side. We're going to speak with Huckabee live in a moment. But first Martin Savidge brings us up to date on all the latest from Morehead, Kentucky. Martin?

MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: And good morning to you, Michaela. The Rowan County Courthouse has just reopened, 8:00 is the time they do it eastern time. And Davis is not inside. So I just had a communication from one of her attorneys, and he says, quote, "She is taking a day of rest today to be with her family." So all of us staking out here looking for her are apparently going to be disappointed today. It will be interesting, maybe at some point she might show up, but right now the attorneys say she isn't going to be here, and for a number of reasons. One, legitimately, she probably does need some rest. And then number two, there is probably some legal strategizing as to what is going to happen next. But the reaction yesterday when she stepped out of that detention center to a crowd of what appeared to be several hundred, maybe more than 1,000, well, listen to what she had to say.

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[08:05:08] KIM DAVIS, ROWAN COUNTY, KENTUCKY, CLERK: I just want to give God the glory.

(APPLAUSE)

DAVIS: His people have rallied and you are a strong people.

(APPLAUSE)

DAVIS: We serve a living God who knows exactly where each and every one of us is at. Just keep on pressing.

(END VIDEO CLIP) SAVIDGE: And that was definitely a crowd that is very much in Kim Davis's corner. They support her. They believe that she is standing up for religious freedom. The question now is, will she go back to work? And if she does, will she go against what the judge has said she cannot do, and that is that she cannot not interfere with marriage licenses being disseminated, especially to same sex couples, which is what originally got us into this in the first place. So I guess the answer is, right now Alisyn, stay tuned.

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: Stay tuned for this minute, actually, Martin, because we are about to try to find out what's next as we bring in Republican presidential candidate and former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee. Good morning, governor.

MIKE HUCKABEE, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Hi, Alisyn, great to be with you today.

CAMEROTA: Great to see you. So yesterday was quite a moment yesterday with you there on stage with Kim Davis as she was just released. But let's talk about what happens next. Now we understand she won't be going to work today. But this week while she was in jail, her office, the county clerk's office did begin issuing those same-sex marriage licenses. So when she returns to work, do those marriage licenses continue to be issued?

HUCKABEE: That's a question her attorney and Kim will have to answer. But yesterday let me say that the law enforcement people said there were 5,000 people there. Traffic was blocked for miles around. This ignited for a lot of people around the country a real concern that Kim Davis was being forced not only to do something against her conscience but really forced to do something against the law that she was elected under. And the only law that is in front of her as a county clerk related to marriage licenses. And I think it's a much bigger issue.

CAMEROTA: But government, I want to stop you there, because the law has changed. Since she took her oath to uphold the constitution, the law changed. And that happens from time to time.

HUCKABEE: Where in the constitution did it change?

CAMEROTA: When the Supreme Court --

HUCKABEE: What statute can you quote for me?

CAMEROTA: When the Supreme Court decided that gay marriage could be the law of the land and it was discriminatory not to allow it, that's what changed.

HUCKABEE: Well, but the Supreme Court can't make law. They interpreted law. But the Supreme Court can't make it. Only Congress can make law.

And another thing I think we sometimes miss is the Supreme Court can be wrong. The Dred Scott decision of 1857 said that black people weren't fully human. I don't think anybody would like to go back and say, hey, that's the law of the land. It's never been repealed. But it was soundly ignored.

Alisyn, there's a basic understanding of what it means to follow the constitution. The constitution says three branches of government are equal. The basic issue is not even marriage licenses. It's whether or not we live under judicial tyranny, whether we will have, as Jefferson warned, a country that capitulates to one of the three branches of government and subjugates the other two to servitude.

CAMEROTA: Look, Kentucky now allows gay marriage. The governor of Kentucky says that now gay marriage is the law of the state and it's the law of the land.

HUCKABEE: But it isn't the law of the state. The state law of Kentucky in their constitution voted on by 75 percent of the Kentucky residents said that marriage is one man, one woman. Kentucky hasn't done a thing to change their law. The Supreme Court said their law wasn't valid. But the people of Kentucky haven't implemented that.

And even the fact that Kim Davis was put in jail because she was following the under which she was elected, the law that she had in front of her, she asked the question, Alisyn, and I think it's the right one, cite for me which statute in the Kentucky law, cite for me which article in the constitution or which statute in the federal law authorizes her to just scratch out that marriage form and make something completely different. There isn't any.

CAMEROTA: Governor, let me just ask you about a parallel case, because I think that that would help all of understand where you're coming from. So at the same time that this whole thing with Kim Davis has been playing out in Kentucky, there's another case that's been playing out in the media, and that is of a Muslim flight attendant who was suspended from her job because she was not comfortable serving alcohol to passengers. Does that flight attendant have the right to deny all the passengers on that plane who don't share her religion alcohol?

HUCKABEE: Historically we have made accommodations for people with religious convictions. You've seen it at Michigan where they spent $25,000 providing foot baths for Muslim students. I think most notably, I saw it personally when I visited Gitmo. And I watched as terrorists who were being detained at Gitmo, there were signs painted on the floor that directed them to Mecca. We gave them prayer rugs and provided expensive meals that cost three times what the meals for the soldiers guarding them. So we have a history of accommodating them.

[08:10:17] CAMEROTA: So it is OK for a flight attendant who is against drinking alcohol to not serve it on passengers aboard a commercial flight who did want to have a drink?

HUCKABEE: I think accommodations are made when they can. Sometimes it can't be done. But in this case there was no attempt to make accommodation for Kim Davis. The governor could have done that in Kentucky. If he really believes that same-sex marriage is something that he supports, what he ought to do is call his legislature and let the elected representatives of Kentucky vote for that. CAMEROTA: The governor said that he didn't want to spend the hundreds

of thousands of dollars of taxpayer money to call the legislature back into session. But what he believed the accommodation could have been was for her to take a different job, was for her to resign. If she couldn't fulfill her duties that she had taken an oath to do to take a different job. That was the choice that she had.

HUCKABEE: How convenient for him to suggest that she, elected to the people, give up a job for which she was elected. And when she was elected, Kentucky law was expressly clear, as was U.S. law, expressly clear, that marriage was one man, one woman.

The governor could have made an accommodation by simply saying that the courthouse and the county clerk doesn't have to have her name on the certificate, or that marriage licenses could be done online. There are a number of ways. But he chose not to do that.

And instead what is really outrageous -- this isn't just about someone not being accommodated. Alisyn, let's not forget we're talking about a woman who was sent to jail for this, to jail, without bail. That is an unprecedented, watershed moment in America when a person, an elected official, a Democrat, by the way -- I think it's important to note this was not some Republican right wing person. This is a Democrat elected by the people and sent to jail for her beliefs and trying to carry out what she believes was the law.

CAMEROTA: And so Governor, back to my original question of what is going to happen next. She chose to go to jail other either issuing the marriage licenses or resigning. So now what happens on Monday when she goes back to work? I know you've spoken to her. What he's her plan? What does she say? Will she allow the clerks in the office to issue the marriage licenses even if they do have her signature, her name, on the license?

HUCKABEE: I don't know exactly what she'll do, but she's made it very clear as has her attorney yesterday when we had a press conference, and that is that she does not plan to violate her conscience. She's not going to surrender and give up her basic First Amendment rights, which, by the way, are expressly clear in the constitution. Nothing in the constitution says there's any federal interest in marriage. But there is absolutely an interest in protecting people's right to religious liberty.

I think this is more than a right of religious liberty. The goes to the heart of the separation of powers, checks and balances, and whether or not a court can just make up a law out of thin air. But there are many issues. The one thing that I think we ought to agree on is that while this is all getting sorted out, that you shouldn't be putting people like Kim Davis in jail for heaven's sakes. And I thinking, if this is what's going to happen, who is next? Your pastor, the person who is a caterer? Where does this end when you have this level of outright discrimination and, frankly, persecution for someone who genuinely believes in her heart the difference between marriage and something that the Supreme Court has created.

CAMEROTA: Governor, it seems like this is an issue that might come up a week from tonight at the next debate, the CNN debate. What are you expecting that night?

HUCKABEE: You know better than me. You're at CNN. I'm not. But I'll be at the debate and I hope it will come up. I truly do, because of all the things we talk about, if we lose our constitutional form of government with separation of powers, clear lines of the authority -- the founders, I believe were brilliant. They knew the frailty of man. They knew if you let too much power get in one branch of government within one group of people, it would be disastrous. I think the most important issue in the presidential election is what do we believe the constitution teaches about the separation of powers, the distribution of power? I hope it comes up.

CAMEROTA: I predict it will. Governor Huckabee, we will look forward to seeing you out there a week from tonight. Thank you so much.

HUCKABEE: Thank you, Alisyn, good to talk to you.

CAMEROTA: You, too.

PEREIRA: Another very concerning story, the European Union is unveiling a new plan to help a flood of refugees. They're proposing quotas to provide shelter to thousands of migrants. In the meantime the U.S. said to be considering resettling more Syrians. Australia just announced it will take in 12,000 more refugees from Syria and Iraq.

[08:15:001] CAMEROTA: So imagine being on a plane ready for takeoff when all of a sudden fire breaks out. This happened to more than 100 people on this British Airways flight down from Paris on a Las Vegas runway, as you can see there.

CNN's Dan Simon is live for us now with all the very latest. What caused this, Dan?

DAN SIMON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, hey, Alisyn. First of all, the plane caught fire as it began accelerating down the runway. This was the left engine that caught fire. As you can imagine, you had passengers scrambling for safety, some of whom were injured as they went down the emergency slide.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

SIMON (voice-over): A terrifying image at the Las Vegas airport as thick black smoke could be seen pouring out of the Boeing 777, just moments after the pilots aborted takeoff.

Witnesses describe a frantic situation.

DOMINIC WORTHINGTON, PASSENGER ON BRITISH AIRWAYS FLIGHT: I was just shouting at people, just run away from the flight, just run as far as you can get.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Tremendous explosion from behind.

SIMON: The British Airways Flight 2276 bound for London Tuesday afternoon with 159 passengers and 13 crew members on board. You could see many running from the burning aircraft. Authorities

determining it was the left engine that caught fire.

JAY JENNINGS, INJURED PASSENGER: We were just getting speed to take off and I just heard a big thud. I opened up the cover of my window and just saw flames on the engine. We suddenly stopped and sat still for about a minute just waiting to hear what to do.

SIMON: The pilots and air traffic control showing their professionalism as the frightening situation unfolds.

CALLER: Mayday, mayday, Speedbird 2276. Request fire services.

AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL: Speedbird 2276 Heavy fire services are on the way.

SIMON: The crew directed everyone to evacuate down the emergency slides. 14 people were taken to a nearby hospital, thankfully with only minor injuries. Fire crews racing to the scene in minutes and quickly putting out the flames.

Unidentified male: It was - It's pretty crazy (ph) stuff.

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SIMON: Well, the passengers did spend the night in Las Vegas. The airline putting them up at a hotel. No word yet when they'll be able to get on another flight. Some of them might need to be questioned by investigators. The NTSB is sending a team down today to try to determine what happened.

Chris?

CUOMO: All right, Dan. Thank you very much for staying on that for us.

Other news, Stephen Colbert making a claim on the smart funny space in his debut, bringing jokes at the expense of the 2016 presidential contenders. GOP frontrunner Donald Trump even a target. Dangerous stuff. Watch as Colbert mocks the brash billionaire on one of his key proposals.

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TRUMP: What's more complicated is building a building that's 95 stories tall.

COLBERT: Yes, a border wall could not be simpler. Just build a 95 story building, knock it over 10,000 times.

(AUDIENCE LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE)

COLBERT: Then you keep the Mexicans out with a doorman.

(AUDIENCE LAUGHTER)

(END VIDEO CLIP) PEREIRA: Talk about layered funny because he was eating an Oreo like a guilty pleasure. He was talking about the guilty pleasure of covering Trump. We're struggling with this in the media. How do we cover the presidential elections and not focus solely on Trump? And he kept sort of saying, oh, I'll just have one more, one more, and then he'd run another bite and another bite of Trump saying something and eat another cookie.

CUOMO: I've always wanted to eat while on the show. You know, we're not allowed to do that.

PEREIRA: (INAUDIBLE) never actually said that.

CUOMO: They don't even like it when I drink during a segment. You're on camera. But this is what they're doing at home.

PEREIRA: Look at - I mean, how many cups does a man need? Do people really put a cup within a cup?

CUOMO: This is my water. This is where the caffeine -

CAMEROTA: What is that?

PEREIRA: I don't even understand.

CUOMO: And this is my cup of crazy, which I like to drink from occasionally.

CAMEROTA: Which you've finished, I see.

CUOMO: Once again.

PEREIRA: Can you refill the crazy?

CAMEROTA: Here's a good segue. Would a president Donald Trump, what would he do? Would he welcome migrants fleeing the Middle East? Given his tough stance on illegal immigrants, the answer may surprise you. We will ask one of Trump's top advisers.

CUOMO: Refill!

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[08:22:40] TRUMP: I hate the concept of it, but on a humanitarian basis with what's happening, you have to. You know, this was started by President Obama when he didn't go in and do the job when he should have, when he drew the line in the sand, which turned out to be a very artificial line. But you know, it's living in hell in Syria. There's no question about it. They're living in hell.

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CUOMO: He doesn't like the concept of it, but on a humanitarian basis, he has to do it. That's Donald Trump not referring to going back on Fox News, but on dealing with the migrant situation, the crisis that's going on in Europe.

Now some see this as a change of heart because of what he has said about the domestic immigration program. So how do you reconcile that? He also made a controversial statement about the Black Lives Matter movement. He's having an event today about Iran and there's new information about him in polls.

So let's get somebody to weigh in on all of this who know Mr. Trump very well on his positions. Executive Vice President of the Trump Organization, special counsel to Mr. Trump himself, Michael Cohen.

Counsel, good to have you here.

MICHAEL COHEN, EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT, TRUMP ORGANIZATION: Good morning.

CUOMO: Yes, he's talking about migrants, but let's - we'll get to that. The criticism, one criticism of Donald Trump is, you know, the way you talk about the blacks, the way you talk about the Hispanics and immigrants, you cannot win those votes. You're saying polls show otherwise. Make the case.

COHEN: They sure do. There's a new poll that just came out that shows Mr. Trump actually substantially head of any other Republican ever at 25 percent with the African-American vote and 31 percent with the Hispanic vote. And again, we've been saying this going back to the July 17th event where Mr. Trump announced his candidacy. This is not Hispanics, it's not about Latinos, this is about illegal immigration and everybody agrees and it clearly shows that in the polls. Mr. Trump is right.

CUOMO: Now, something else that we've seen in polls, while they do say he's ahead, there's a large part, maybe more than 50 percent, of his own party that says Trump is not the guy I want as a candidate. How does he move from where he is into the realm of the moderate Republicans and then the independents, as many of our viewers are.

COHEN: Mr. Trump is going to be Mr. Trump. There's no doubt about that. He's going to say what's on his mind and he's going to back it up. And again, the polls show that he's correct. He signed this pledge that, in all fairness, they never should have had anybody sign the pledge. It's the first time, I believe, ever --

CUOMO: To not run as a third party.

[08:25:00] COHEN: That is correct.

CUOMO: Why did he do that?

COHEN: Because it was right for the party. Because they turned around and they told him that they were going to play fair and he's taking them at their word for it.

CUOMO: But what if they don't? What if they get to the convention and it's tight -- COHEN: I believe that they will. I believe that Mr. Trump will end up

being the Republican nominee. I believe that the support by the American people will force the RNC and others within which to back him. And that's part of the pledge. And supposedly - even though I didn't see it anybody else - I mean, Mr. Trump had a massive press conference. Nobody else knows if anybody else even signed it, though I was told that they did, that they agreed to support whoever the Republican candidate is. And it's going to be Mr. Trump and we're going to expect their support.

CUOMO: A pledge is a nonbinding contract. He could break it. Is there a chance?

COHEN: He could break it and so could they, but Mr. Trump doesn't break his word.

CUOMO: So you're saying there is zero chance he runs as a third party candidate?

COHEN: I would say that there's pretty close to a zero chance.

CUOMO: You lawyers, Michael Cohen.

COHEN: Yeah, you, too.

CUOMO: When we need one - I like this. But right now I don't need this. So you're saying close to zero, but you're keeping a little window.

COHEN: Well, you have to keep a window -- Nothing is 100 percent certain. But I can turn around and tell you Mr. Trump never breaks his word.

CUOMO: All right. So that's that situation. Now let's see how he gets to this point of having to make a decision like that. The Iran deal today, he's having a meeting, Ted Cruz is going to be there, they've been loosely allied in the past, we know that. Why is he having an event where he wants to talk about Iran in a productive way and he's got the "Duck Dynasty" guy there, Sarah Palin there, Glenn Beck there. It seems like he's catering to a very definite perspective. What's he trying to say --

COHEN: I don't think he's catering to anybody. I think that they asked to come to the event and he's not going to turn anybody away. Their vote is as important as anybody else's. Their voice is as important as anybody else's.

You know, Mr. Trump, he's a deal-maker. Let's be honest. We talk about this in every show. He's --

CUOMO: Written books about it.

COHEN: "Art of the Deal," right -- The Iran deal, as Mr. Trump has said, is probably the worst deal in the history of this world. And it's one that I believe we're going to regret many years from now. CUOMO: But you know that the global consensus, certainly in Europe and

beyond, is that this was better than no deal. Nobody's ever happy when you make a deal with someone who's not your ally. You had Russia, you had China, you had India saying we're not for these sanctions going forward. We want the commercial opportunities here. It's easy to say I could do better, but all the people at the table, including the Iranians, say we had to give things up we didn't want to give, but it's better than no deal.

COHEN: What did they give up? They're taking $150 billion from the United States.

CUOMO: The sanctions don't get given up right away. There is monitoring. They don't get to refine plutonium the way they wanted to. They have to reduce their stores in a way they didn't want to --

COHEN: (INAUDIBLE) that we're supposed to believe them because they've been so honest in the past? You know, it's --

CUOMO: But you had nothing in the past. You had nothing in the past.

COHEN: I don't think we're going to have anything either right now and I think that's the sad part. When you have the ayatollah turn around and say in 25 years from now, Israel will be wiped off this planet, that they will no longer exist - That's America's ally. You got to be true to your allies. You have to be good to your friends. You can't just turn around and take a foreign country that we really have not had great relations with and put them ahead of those that we have. It just doesn't make sense and that's Mr. Trump's point. He's the greatest deal-maker on the planet. This is a lousy deal. And when he wins the president, you're going to see, he'll change this deal. He will renegotiate this deal.

CUOMO: But he talked about the situation with migrants. Here he wants to find all the illegals and get rid of them. People say it's impractical, let alone potentially impossible. But then he says, well, this humanitarian crisis, we've got to do something here. It's terrible. Why doesn't he apply the same logic to so many who come to this country from Central America in the same way?

COHEN: One could turn around and say one is an immediate humanitarian need, the other are individuals who are seeking to come to the United States improperly. They're seeking to just walk through a border and call this place home.

CUOMO: A window into the fact that this is a little bit more of a complex issue than maybe he laid it out as first, that it's not as easy as saying all or none. You know, that you have to think it through.

COHEN: Well, again, I don't think we really know the extent of the problem. And only until Mr. Trump becomes the president and actually gets into the White House where he can look at the deal and understand the deal and then he could revise the deal in order to make it work. That's what he does and that's what he does best.

CUOMO: Michael Cohen, thank you for coming on to clarify the positions.

COHEN: (INAUDIBLE)

CUOMO: All right. So NEW DAY tomorrow 7:00 hour, Donald Trump joins us live. He says he wants to explain how he is going to put proposals into business. And he wants to discuss his issues directly to you. We invited Hillary. We invited Jeb Bush. Donald Trump is the one who said yes. You'll get him tomorrow.

Mick.

PEREIRA: We look forward to it. So violent crime is rising in New York as police and their use of stop-and-frisk. The mayor says those two facts simply aren't related. We're going to get him to explain live ahead.

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