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Rubio Earns First Senate Endorsement; Trump On Rubio: "He's A Lightweight"; Russian Airline Under Scrutiny After Crash; Jimmy Kimmel's Halloween Candy Prank. Aired 7:30-8a ET
Aired November 03, 2015 - 07:30 ET
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MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: Or a bomb brought down that plane killing all 224 onboard. Russian airline officials are ruling out human error or technical problems as a possible cause. Even though several aviation experts say it's far too early to make that determination.
CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Ahmed Chalabi, once a pivotal Iraqi figure who pushed for the U.S.-led invasion has died. Officials say the 71- year-old was found in his Baghdad home the victim of an apparent heart attack.
Chalabi supplied information to the U.S. linking Saddam to weapons of mass destruction and al Qaeda. He stayed in with Washington until it was discovered he could be spying for Iran.
ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: Well, we now know the ship wreck discovered at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean is the missing cargo ship "El Faro." The 790-foot ship vanished a month ago off the coast of the Bahamas as Hurricane Joaquin hit that region. Thirty three crew members including 28 Americans were on board that doomed vessel.
PEREIRA: Questions about stadium security after a stunt at "Monday Night Football's" game between Colts and the Panthers. Protesters were rappelling from the upper deck in Charlotte unfurled a banner that read "Dump Dominion."
The North Carolina power company gets financing from Bank of America, which holds naming rights to the Panther stadium. Dominion has generated controversy with plants for liquefied natural gas facility in Maryland. Those protesters are now facing charges.
CAMEROTA: That's commitment.
PEREIRA: Yes, it is.
CAMEROTA: They hung there for a long time.
CUOMO: They did. Like two innings or something like that.
All right, so building on the momentum of a strong debate performance last week, Marco Rubio takes a big leap in New Hampshire. Support tripling there following the debate.
Rubio also picking up his first endorsement from one of his Senate colleagues, freshman, Cory Gardner, the Colorado Republican joining us on NEW DAY this morning.
He's explaining why he's throwing his support behind Rubio. Senator, good to have you on NEW DAY. Why Rubio? Why not Jeb? Why not Trump? Now he's coming after you.
SENATOR CORY GARDNER, ENDORSED MARCO RUBIO FOR PRESIDENT: Well, I think Marco Rubio represents the best opportunity for the future. He's somebody who understands that this race is about someone who's going to be accountable to the next generation.
There are a lot of people in this campaign who understand the past. There are a lot of people, especially Hillary Clinton, who understands the economies and politics of old, but they don't understand the future. That's what this race is about.
CUOMO: Senator, I am older than you are. I will play the aged masses that don't like you young upstarts. Why is age enough for Marco Rubio? What do you point to that shows he is future-minded in terms of seeing a way that you don't see right now from the current state?
GARDNER: If you look at his work on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He's been at the forefront of every foreign relations battle that we've had making sure that we have strong policies from this president, a strategy in the Middle East that we have lacked.
He's somebody who really has led the fight on human rights issues around the globe. In fact, I'm working with him in recent days on a North Korea sanctions bill to help shine a lot on the atrocious record that North Korea has committing crimes against his own people.
That's something that Marco Rubio has stood for. He's released economic plans, tax plan. He's somebody who understands the challenges that college students face.
In fact, when it comes to student loan debt, he entered the United States Senate facing some of the same challenges that college students around the country have right now.
Every day Americans, the people around this country who are struggling to make ends meet, Marco Rubio understands what it is to fight for them and he understands what it's going to take to fight for them. I don't think Hillary Clinton has that ability.
CUOMO: Senator, you support him, now you must defend him against some of the attacks. The first one is an issue that is central to you, you believe in a path to citizenship. It's part of your immigration stance.
Marco Rubio gets criticized for having moved back and forth. He was against amnesty then cut the deal with the Gang of Eight, now he seems to be against that deal. Now he says maybe there's a path.
It shows a lack of consistency that may play to pandering and not the kind of thorough leadership and idealism we need in a president. GARDNER: I think what every person in this country understands is that we have a broken immigration system. Whoever is going to be the nominee from the Republican Party, I hope that's Marco Rubio, will have to address this. That's something that everybody acknowledges.
It didn't it the matter what town meeting I go to. The most ardent oppositions to immigration reform are the most in support of immigration reform.
When we talk about the need for a secure border or a guest worker program because you can't have a secure border without a guest worker program, they understand that's something we have to take. Even those people who oppose immigration reform understand --
CUOMO: Do you know where the senator stands on it with confidence that you know what he would do once he gets into office?
GARDNER: He's going to address our problems in this country. One of the challenges that we have right now with President Obama and one of the challenges that we would have with a third term of the Obama presidency under Hillary Clinton is the fact that they've destroyed the trust with Congress when it comes this very issue.
I think when we have a Republican in office and we can actually restore that trust with Congress, we'll have an amazing opportunity to find solutions that have been so difficult to achieve over the past six, seven years.
CUOMO: Respond to this criticism from none other than poll leader, Donald Trump.
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[07:35:03] DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I think he's a highly overrated person. I've called hem a lightweight. I think he's a lightweight. He says how handsome he is. I don't know. I think I'm better looking than he is. Am I better looking than him?
They're talking about he's so handsome. He is so wonderful. Another thing I didn't like about him and I don't like about him, he should have been more loyal to Bush.
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CUOMO: First of all, I know you're dying to answer whether or not you think Donald Trump is more handsome than Marco Rubio. I will not give you that chance to deal with that criticism. The idea to loyalty of Bush, being overrated, and being an upstart, what is your response of your choice, Senator Rubio?
GARDNER: I think the American people aren't looking for loyalty amongst candidates to other candidates. What the American people are looking for is loyalty to the American people. The fact is the American people have watched their incomes decline, health care costs increase. They've seen more and more people leave the work force because
they can't find the kind of work they're hoping to find and secure. What they're going to see in Marco Rubio is somebody who understands and how to grow the economy, how to get people back into the high- paying jobs by reducing the regulatory burden on the American people.
He understands what it's going to take to grow family opportunity. That's really why ultimately it's not going to come down to the insider games about whether the debate rules are right. It's not going to come down to the insider games of whether or not this candidate likes that candidate or who's better looking than who.
It's going to come down to the American people and whether the American people believes Marco Rubio understands what it's going to take to give our friends around the globe the trust that they once had and the strength of the United States.
Whether we have a president that has the maturity and temperament to lead this nation through some of the greatest challenges we've ever faced. I believe that's Marco Rubio, the next president of the United States. I hope.
CUOMO: Senator Cory Gardner, appreciate having you on NEW DAY. Please come back again. We talk issues all the time. Appreciate you coming out and defending Senator Rubio and not discussing his looks.
GARDNER: Thanks for having me.
CUOMO: Alisyn.
CAMEROTA: He seemed relieved about that.
Back to one of our top stories that's developing, was it terrorism that brought down that Russian jet in the Egyptian desert. There are new clues caught on satellite. We'll examine the evidence, next.
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CAMEROTA: A new clue in the crash of that Russian passenger plane. U.S. satellites detecting a heat flash at the time that that Russian jet went down over Egypt's Sinai Peninsula.
So let's bring in Mary Schiavo. She is our CNN aviation analyst and former inspector general for the U.S. Department of Transportation. Mary, thanks so much for being on NEW DAY this morning. Infrared activity detected by U.S. satellites, what does this mean?
MARY SCHIAVO, CNN AVIATION ANALYST: It's a very important development, new announcement, but it's very significant, because what they say, they saw basically a heat flash in the air in the area of the aircraft. But they're also saying they did not see any signature of a
heat missile or something ascending up to the plane, in other words, they just saw a big ball of explosive energy.
Some kind of heat signature, but they did not see any trails suggesting something was going from the ground up to the sky.
CAMEROTA: That is very telling. If there's just a heat flash without something external causing it, what would you say causes that internal heat flash?
SCHIAVO: You're going back -- I always like to look at other crashes that I've worked on in the past. There are several that come to mind, for example, TWA 800 where the center fuel tank exploded. In that case, the plane was blown into two or three debris fields as we have here.
Another where the wing came off and caused an explosion, and then, of course, there are situations where we have a bomb on board, Pan Am 103. That, too, had a bomb blast signature flash in the air. There are three scenarios there of an explosion of fuel, a structural member being lost or a bomb on board.
CAMEROTA: Let's talk about what we do know about this particular plane's structural integrity. This Metrojet, the tail of this very plane struck a runway somehow in Cairo in 2001. What would the connection between that incident and this crash, what could it possibly be?
SCHIAVO: It would be the nature of the repair and how good the repair was. Tail strikes happen several times a year in the United States alone. I'd probably say on estimate maybe every other month we have a major plane with a tail strike. It depends on how it's repaired.
Now if this plane had great service and great inspections and we would know that the repair was good and held, but for example, in the crash of Japan Airlines 123 in 1985, there, a tail strike repair did not hold, it blew out. It caused a rapid decompression and the plane was uncontrollable.
However, the difference between that one and this one, in that case, the airplane was able to fly for almost two hours until it ran out of fuel. It just was not controllable. That's a little different than here.
A bad repair is like a ticking time bomb. Once it's painted over, there's no way to jack up the paint job and check how the repair is holding.
CAMEROTA: Mary, what's you're saying is so troubling. First of all, it's troubling to hear how many tail strikes there. What does that mean, something hits the tail or the tail hits the runway, a bad landing?
SCHIAVO: Excuse me, using my hands. When you take off you have to rotate and go up. Sometimes you do that too dramatically and the back of the plane hits. It can be very hard. Mostly it's on takeoff. You rotate too hard and go up too dramatically.
Some airports have takeoff and noise abatement rules that require a very sharp climb. Some are prone to tail strikes, like John Wayne in Orange County.
CAMEROTA: Russian planes we learned have a much spottier safety record than do U.S. planes. There were 21 times as many crashes in the former Soviet nations than in North America and yet, even though we know all this.
[07:45:07] A U.S. official at least says they cannot rule out this could have been terror that this might not have anything to do with that safety record or repair record. Let me play for you what James Clapper, the director of National Intelligence has said about this.
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JAMES CLAPPER, DIRECTOR, NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE: We don't have any direct evidence of any terrorist involvement yet.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Does ISIS have the ability to shoot down an airliner?
CLAPPER: It's unlikely but I wouldn't rule it out.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
CAMEROTA: Mary, nobody has more experience in investigating these things than you. Which way are you leaning this morning?
SCHIAVO: Well, without any kind of indication of a bomb, a lot of this is very early in sketch, because they have said they found no explosive residue. Remember in Pan Am 103 which was brought down by a terrorist bomb, it took weeks to find the pieces that had the plastic explosive residue on it.
And it took many months to test it out. It's too early to say it can't be terrorism. At this point, taking the lessons from TWA 800, which we first thought was terrorism, but was exploding fuel tank, it looks mechanical until proven otherwise.
CAMEROTA: OK, Mary Schiavo, always great to get your expertise. Thanks so much for being on NEW DAY. Let's go over to Michaela.
PEREIRA: All right, Alisyn, you've seen this in Halloween's past, kids freaking out when they hear someone ate all their Halloween candies. Jimmy Kimmel is at it again. His annual torturing of the children, next.
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PEREIRA: Some good news for working parents this is morning. Alison Kosik is in the Money Center. Amazon making some changes? ALISON KOSIK, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Michaela. Absolutely, if you work at Amazon being a new parent just got a little easier. Beginning next year new moms can take up to 20 weeks of paid leave. That's 12 more weeks than Amazon's old policy.
Plus they can ease back into work, be on a flexible schedule. Dads also can take up to six weeks of fully paid leave and employees can share their benefits with the partner who doesn't get paid leave.
Volkswagen's emissions cheating scandal extended to Porsche. U.S. regulators say 10,000 high-priced Porsche and Audi vehicles contain the cheating software. That's very small compared to the nearly 500,000 cars already cited in the U.S. and 11 million cars worldwide. But it's yet another blow to VW's credibility. The company denies these new claims.
And the Candy Crush getting a new owner, Activision Blizzard announced plans overnight to acquire King Digital Entertainment for $5.9 billion. Activision is best known for tradition games like Guitar Hero and Call of Duty that are played on PCs or gaming consoles. Buying the maker of Candy Crush is going to help Activision get a stronger foothold in mobile gaming.
PEREIRA: Does that going to mean I'm going to get more invitations to play it on Facebook?
All right, Alison, thank you so much. Speaking of the candy, I want to know where you stand on this prank that Jimmy Kimmel has annually. Is it a prank? Is it fun? Is it all in good fun? We'll take a look at Jimmy Kimmel and talk about it on the other side.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I got really hungry and I eat it all.
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: Wait. Remember last time you told me that joke.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, this time it is not a joke.
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: I'm going to -- if I see no candy, you are in big trouble young lady.
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: Did you eat all the chocolate things?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. I don't want to wait --
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: Did you eat the cookies?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I eat all of it. Daddy too.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I wanted to try Skittles. Daddy did you eat my candy? No don't eat my candy.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He seriously ate every bit of your Halloween candy.
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: That is totally Jimmy Kimmel related and -- they're lying.
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: Sorry Jimmy Kimmel.
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PEREIRA: That's good. Finally somebody got hip to it.
CUOMO: They were a little too old. You get above five or six.
PEREIRA: I think it is really hilarious, but then I also think it's like so mean.
CUOMO: Trauma is good for personal development. Life is pain.
CAMEROTA: I hope so because they are traumatizing these kids. But I love that it has an expiration date. That they can only play this joke so many times. Even 6-year-olds are like I think you tried this last year.
CUOMO: The power of candy overwhelms reason. Does this happen in your house? When one of the kids freaks out like that, do you immediately observe them and look at your spouse and say that is so you?
CAMEROTA: No.
CUOMO: That is what I see when I watch the kids. You know you're going to get this young lady. You know he's heard that so many times and you know their parodying what they see in their --
CAMEROTA: How about the little infant who like slams the hand down --
CUOMO: That is where they get it. That's a little you there making those reactions.
CAMEROTA: Adorable.
PEREIRA: Good stuff.
CUOMO: All right, a man who is not crying at all is Ben Carson because he's popped to the top in another GOP poll. Could he be the threat to Donald Trump? It seems so. What about the Donald? The findings from the latest 2016 polls ahead.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right now Ben Carson is the man to beat here.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's Marco Rubio that's surging.
TRUMP: Marco doesn't show up to vote.
JEB BUSH (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The answer isn't sending someone from one side of the capitol city to the other.
BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: They can't handle a bunch of CNBC moderators.
JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: A heat flash seen been an American satellite high overhead.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Was this flash part of the plane breaking up or was it something else?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Any sort of damage to the aircraft can cause a problem.
SCHIAVO: But it also could have been a bomb. Anything is on the table at this point.
CUOMO: Ohio residents voting on marijuana legislation today.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Voters will decide whether to approve recreational and medical marijuana at the same time.
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CUOMO: Good morning. Welcome to your NEW DAY. It is Tuesday, November 3rd, 8:00 in the east. And now a second national poll suggests the tide may be turning in Ben Carson's favor in the Republican presidential race. The NBC News/"Wall Street Journal" poll has Carson six points ahead of Trump nationally.
CAMEROTA: Donald Trump taking the rhetoric between the two to new levels this morning questioning if Ben Carson is handle the job. We'll get to that in a moment.
CNN's Athena Jones is live in Tampa with more on the race for the White House, but first we do have breaking news that we want to get to right now because there is new information about what happened to that Russian passenger jet.
