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Woman Slams Into Officer Pursuing Stolen Car; Obama & Netanyahu Meet at the White House; Interview with Senator Chris Coons of Delaware; Republicans Face Off for Fourth GOP Debate. Aired 6:30-7a ET

Aired November 10, 2015 - 06:30   ET

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[06:34:10] MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: A big shake-up at the University of Missouri. The chancellor announcing that he's stepping down at the end of the year after racial tensions erupting on campus. That announcement coming hours after Tim Wolfe, president of the whole university system, announced that he, too, was resigning. The football team returns to practice today. They had refused to take the field until the president, Tim Wolf, has resigned.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Classes will be held as usual today on the campus of Spartanburg Methodist College in South Carolina despite a deadly shooting Monday. Authorities say a campus police officer investigating a vehicle break-in shot and killed a man who hit him with a car as he tried to flee. They say the officer opened fire out of fear for his life. The shooting prompted a temporary campus-wide lockdown.

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: We're learning more about the shootout in Louisiana that claimed the life of a 6-year-old autistic boy.

[06:35:00] A source close to the investigation tells CNN that the deputies saw a physical fight between the dad, Chris Few, and his girlfriend outside of a bar. They say the dad then took off in an SUV. But Few's lawyers tell "The Associated Press" a police body camera shows Chris Few with his hands up as the officers fired into the car killing his son. The two officers are being held on $1 million bond.

A dramatic car chase unfolding in Oklahoma. An officer in pursuit of a stolen vehicle. He gets out of his car, the other driver plows into him.

Enough explaining from me. Watch this video. It's all caught on the officer's body camera.

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OFFICER: Stop, stop!

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PEREIRA (voice-over): Caught on tape, dramatic video of a high- speed chase near an elementary school in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Body cam footage capturing the shocking moments the suspect in a stolen vehicle rammed her car into a police officer's patrol car Friday afternoon.

OFFICER: Stop, stop!

PEREIRA: The video shows Patrol Officer Matt Stacy pulling over to lay down tire spikes but the white SUV shows no sign of stopping, accelerating towards Stacey and nearly 50 miles per hour.

OFFICER: Stop, stop!

CHIEF MIKE CARTER, SAND SPRINGS POLICE: This officer had to make his decision in less than three seconds what he was going to do.

PEREIRA: The video shows him get back up in pursuit of Stacey Ann Bunsey.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They just rammed Stacy.

PEREIRA: This footage from another officer's body cam shows Stacey Bunsey popping out through the sun roof, ignoring police and yelling obscenities.

OFFICER: Do not move your hand.

PEREIRA: After disobeying several orders --

OFFICER: Taser, taser, taser!

PEREIRA: Bunsey is tasered.

Miraculously, Officer Stacy walking away from the incident with just minor cuts and bruises.

OFFICER: Stop, stop!

JOHN GEORGE, PRESIDENT, OKLAHOMA CITY POLICE UNION: It was pretty wild. It's really amazing that he didn't get injured severely.

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CAMEROTA: Oh, my gosh. This is what police have to deal with all the time. You never know what is behind her erratic behavior.

CUOMO: She took the taser, too. There was obviously something that was changing.

PEREIRA: She parentally pulled into the parking lot of the elementary school at one point during the chase.

CUOMO: It's not that random. One happened on Monday. So, cops have to deal with this.

And it's also window into how compressed the time frame is.

PEREIRA: Oh, it happens so quickly.

CUOMO: You know, you can see his handgun there. You say, oh, why didn't he run away, why didn't he do that? Because he had a split second to figure it out.

CAMEROTA: Absolutely. They do have to make decisions in a split second. This is what we ask of our law enforcement officers.

Oh, my gosh.

PEREIRA: Needless to say, she faces a litany of charges.

CAMEROTA: OK.

CUOMO: Next to the next level, what was really motivating her behavior? If it turns out she is an addict, she was unstable, does she get treated the way everybody else does? Yes, right now. Is that the right way to handle these conversations? Bigger conversation.

CAMEROTA: Yes. Meanwhile, new concerns over an insider security threat, 900,000 workers with unfettered access at America's airports. How vulnerable are when we fly? We take a closer look, ahead on NEW DAY.

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[06:41:58] BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I want to be very clear that we condemn in the strongest terms Palestinian violence against innocent Israeli citizens. And I want to repeat once again that it's my strong belief that Israel has not just the right but the obligation too protect itself.

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CAMEROTA: President Obama and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu face -- a meeting face to face at the White House for the first time in more than a year and the first time since the Iran nuclear deal.

Let's talk about this and so much more with Senator Chris Coons. He's a Democrat from Delaware and a member of the Foreign Relations Committee.

Senator, thanks so much for being here on NEW DAY.

SEN. CHRIS COONS (D), DELAWARE: Thank you, Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: What do you think came out of this meeting yesterday?

COONS: Well, I think this was a positive opportunity for President Obama and Prime Minister Netanyahu on the world stage to set straight on the record, there are many who suggested that strong disagreements over the Iran nuclear deal may have permanently frayed the U.S./Israel relationship.

And nothing could be farther from the truth. I think the meeting between Obama and Netanyahu yesterday reinforced our strong, deep and lasting relationship. It's stronger than even an important tactical disagreement. And they got to work on the important business of making sure the Iran deal is fully and forcefully implemented and of working together to ensure Israel's qualitative military advantage.

CAMEROTA: I mean, look, you're right, obviously, Israel is a deep and strong ally of the U.S. However, it's no secret there have been personal issues between President Obama and Netanyahu.

Do you think that somehow relations are improving?

COONS: Yes, I think they are. I do think there hasn't been great chemistry between the two national leaders but the relationships between our defense and intelligence communities and the long and deep relationships between the peoples of our countries, I think will support and sustain the working relationship between Obama and Netanyahu.

CAMEROTA: Senator, let's talk about our national security. In light of what happened with Russian MetroJet, the crash there, there is a new look at the 900,000 airport workers. I mean, that number is staggering. Who knew we had 900,000 airport workers here in the U.S. and their unfettered access to our airplanes.

Are you worried that something could happen and sneak on board a U.S. airline given that there are so many people connected to -- you know, as we said, the unfettered access at our airports?

COONS: I do think we have to be constantly vigilant. I think we are fortunate that we haven't had a major terrorist incident that's brought down an American plane in the last decade. That's not for a lack of trying by those who would do us harm.

We are fortunate to have a strong and robust TSA system, but it's got some challenges. Given what happened in Sharm el Sheikh, given the Russian plane brought down over the Sinai, we need to redouble our efforts.

As you know, I've traveled through the Middle East and Africa. In some parts of the world, the security standards aren't as ours.

[06:45:01] We need to redouble our efforts to make sure that the American people understand that the inconvenience and the hassle that we all go through when we get on an airplane is for good reason, and we have to make sure we secured the perimeters of our airports and taken a hard second look at everyone who has access to an airplane.

CAMEROTA: I mean, so you say, redouble our efforts. You mean here at home, you are concerned about an insider threat? Or you're concerned about airports in other countries?

COONS: I'm much more concerned about airports in other countries. The standards are more lax in some countries around the world and that would make it easier to get something on to a plane that then ultimately would be in American air space or might be carrying Americans. I do think generally, we do a strong job in the United States.

But there's been some recent studies that suggest there's room for improvement. I have confidence in our homeland security secretary, in the TSA, but there's always room for improvement. Given the number of folks who work in our airports, given the number of flights every day, I think we have to be -- we have to be concerned and we have to be vigilant.

CAMEROTA: Senator, let's talk about presidential politics. I know you were and are a big Joe Biden supporter. You were hoping that he would run. Now that the vice president has decided not to get in the race, have you decided whether or not you will support one of the other Democratic candidates?

COONS: I have. That's right, Alisyn. I'm a big Joe Biden fan and supporter. I was hopeful he would be running for president. I think his voice for our middle class has been unequaled.

But I think he's made the right choice for his family. I've had a number of conversations with Hillary Clinton's policy folks, and yesterday, I spent some time speaking directly with Secretary Clinton. I got to know her when we traveled together and worked together in my first few years in the Senate and across a wide range of issues -- from college access to manufacturing, from foreign policy to leadership. I'm thrilled to be endorsing her today in her run for president.

CAMEROTA: Oh, that's good news, senator. I mean, that is news I should say.

COONS: That is news. I haven't made the announcement before now.

CAMEROTA: Thanks for sharing it with NEW DAY. You are officially endorsing Hillary Clinton.

Why not Bernie Sanders?

COONS: You know, Bernie, I reached out to Bernie and I hope to talk with him in person about it today. I think Senator Sanders has conducted himself really well in this campaign. He's got some strong ideas. He's got a great record. I like Bernie personally.

But I just think we need an economic message of optimism and that focuses on growth as well as one that looks with a clear eye about some of the issues of income inequality that Bernie has raised. There are folks I'm close to in my community and extended family who are big supporters of Bernie Sanders.

But I frankly think that Secretary Clinton will make the stronger president. I have a closer, longer relationship with her and I'm optimistic that she can win in the general election and lead our country well.

CAMEROTA: Senator Chris Coons, thanks so much for sharing your endorsement news on NEW DAY. Great to talk to you this morning.

COONS: Thank you.

CAMEROTA: Let's get to Chris.

CUOMO: We go from governing to politics. Let's talk truth about what will make a politician pop at the debate tonight. There's no secret about what works and what does not. We will have the strategies laid out for you by those who know, next.

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[06:52:32] PEREIRA: The fourth Republican presidential debate is tonight. Many are wondering how Fox Business moderators are going to handle it. You'll recall after the last GOP debate, candidates complained there were too many gotcha questions.

I want to bring in the director of the School of Media and Public Affairs at George Washington University, Frank Sesno, CNN senior media correspondent and host of "RELIABLE SOURCES", Brian Stelter, who's already in Milwaukee, trying to get a front row seat, make sure he's there to take notes.

Gentlemen, so, let's talk about this.

I know we hear a little bit of buzz from the moderators in advance of the debate. Frank, we're hearing that Cavuto and Bartiromo want to be essentially invisible. They want to sort of stay out of the way.

What is your best advice for them tonight?

FRANK SESNO, DIR., SCHOOL OF MEDIA AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS, GWU: Well, don't be quite that invisible. They don't want to stay out of the way entirely.

No, my advice for them is exactly what they're saying and I think they're right on it. Do the job that CNBC should have done -- focus on the issues, go for your expertise, be the person getting the candidates to talk to one another, not to talk at you. Keep the focus on the things that the network is all about, and that the public cares about, and that the candidates disagree about -- the economy, jobs, taxes, size of government, right down the middle.

PEREIRA: Easy as pie. Sounds easy to do, right, Brian? You've had a chance to talk to Maria. How is she feeling? What's her game plan for tonight?

BRIAN STELTER, CNN SENIOR MEDIA CORRESPONDENT: The best moderators make it look easy though it's very, very hard.

Bartiromo told me yesterday she's been in debate prep sessions but she's not changing the strategy based on how well it didn't go with CNBC. She says the goal is always to make this about the viewers, make this about the voters. But like I said, that sounds easy. It's actually very hard.

She also said she agrees with President Obama. Remember two weeks ago at a Democratic fund-raiser, Obama said if these Republicans candidates can't handle the CNBC moderators, how are they going to handle China and Russia?

PEREIRA: Boom!

STELTER: She says she agrees with Obama on that, that the moderators should not be the story, that the candidates shouldn't waste time attacking the moderators tonight. And I have a feeling that if they do, if the candidates do cry foul and accuse the moderators of media bias, even on a FOX stage, I have a feeling the moderators will come back with some pretty good response.

PEREIRA: Yes, but I'm curious how that is going to play. So, Frank, how do you think -- what do you think is going to happen? Are they going to avoid or head on address some of the controversies, whether it's Rubio's credit cards or Ben Carson's violent past? Do you think they'll skirt around it? Or do you think they might actually use the tactic of allowing the other candidates to sort of come at them?

SESNO: Well, that's the thing. Look, first of all, I think that they won't start with those issues, whether they get to them at all or not is another matter.

[06:55:03] But they will start with, I think, the substance, then the candidates won't be able to say, look, you haven't talked about the substance, because if you get to the controversy, you get to that later. That's where it belongs.

If they get to the controversy based on what Maria said publicly, they will set the candidates up to take one another on. By the way, the candidates have shown no reluctance to do that up until now, because it's getting fight direct and nasty out there. So, it's not about the moderators. It's about the candidates dealing with the issues. What does George Bush say about Marco Rubio's credit card?

PEREIRA: Right. It's so interesting, because you think about this. We're number four in for the GOP candidates. They've had a chance, right, each time the number is getting slimmer, we only have eight candidates on the stage tonight. They're getting more practice, a little more rehearsal about how this goes -- a chance to react to how the conversation in America is going post-debate.

But the moderators as well, too, these guys have a chance to learn from everybody else's mistakes, missteps and also from their successes -- Brian.

STELTER: It's also very personal by the way. You know, some of -- Maria Bartiromo recently left CNBC. The head of FOX News used to run CNBC. They really do want to want up CNBC.

Everybody seemed to agree the debate was disappointing. This one will be much better because I think they've had time to prepare and because they want to have a contrast to the past debate. But it is personal for them.

PEREIRA: We know substance will be key tonight, Frank, obviously. We also know that often times in these debates, people want to make a name for themselves. Who are you watching to see if they get some traction tonight?

SESNO: Well, first of all, I'm not going to make a name for myself. I think I said George Bush when I meant Jeb Bush.

PEREIRA: That's all right.

SESNO: So, that's one of the issues. The candidates actually have to stand on their own.

Look, Ted Cruz has got to show that he's not just out there to attack the media. Marco Rubio has got to show that his personal past overcomes the way he would manage the nation's finances. Donald Trump has seen numbers slip. Ben Carson has been under attack for how he went to school and whether he stabbed a friend.

So, whether and how they go after the substance, they will, they also all have to pop through and in some cases counter the narrative they've encountered on the trail. Time is running out. They're now only eight of them up there, right? This is musical chairs and the music stops at some point, and what is this national primary that we're experiencing. It's quite extraordinary.

PEREIRA: It is extraordinary special when you think about the topic of whether somebody stabbed their friend as a child is coming up in a presidential debate. My goodness. What times we are in.

Frank Sesno, Brian Stelter, thank you so much.

SESNO: Thank you.

PEREIRA: All right. We're following a lot of news. As always, let's getting right to it.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: An economic debate that we were supposed to have, I think we're finally going to have it.

CUOMO: Here comes the fourth Republican debate.

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Everyone tells me Rubio is a wonderful speaker. I said, really? Jeb Bush -- but I don't mention him anymore because he's not working out.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Jeb Bush has certainly telegraphed that Marco Rubio has a target on his back.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is just the beginning of aiding and dismantling systems of oppression.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I didn't look at consequences. It was about helping my players.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The harder we fight, the greater the reward.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We never ever would have thought anything like this would be going on to this magnitude.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This has become something everybody was doing. People make mistakes. It's a big mistake.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do I think parents should be very concerned? Absolutely, yes.

ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo, Alisyn Camerota and Michaela Pereira.

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CAMEROTA: And good morning, welcome back to your NEW DAY.

The spotlight will be on Ben Carson tonight when Republicans gather in Milwaukee for the fourth GOP debate. Carson is neck and neck with Donald Trump in the latest national polls. And, of course, as you know, he's facing scrutiny as the media digs into several stories about his childhood and his past.

CUOMO: Trump is an interesting study in what's going on. He is now marveling at how bizarre the election has been, though he is certainly a big reason for the unique nature of this campaign thus far. He's also baffled that his negative attacks seem to be helping opponents in the polls. That said, it does seem the time for negative attacks may have arrived on the stage tonight.

Let's go live to Milwaukee and bring in CNN's Sunlen Serfaty.

What is the prediction tonight? Is it like Clubber Lang would say, pain?

SUNLEN SERFATY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Chris, we already are seeing rumblings between a few of the campaigns today. There was really an escalation in the war of words between the Bush campaign and the Rubio campaign overnight, which certainly sets the stage for what could be a fiery debate.

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SERFATY (voice-over): Tonight's debate, a critical moment for candidates in the Republican race to the White House. The main stage a bit roomier this time around, former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee and New Jersey Governor Chris Christie bumped off the main stage to the undercard debate. Fewer people means more time for each GOP hopeful. The network saying they'll allow the candidates to respond to each other's criticisms directly.

TRUMP: This is a strange election, isn't it?