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Climate Summit in Paris; Cyber Monday Mania; Black Friday Sales Disappoint; Chicago Cop who Fatally Shot Teen Due in Court Today. Aired 8:30-9a ET
Aired November 30, 2015 - 08:30 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
[08:30:00] KATRINA PIERSON, NATIONAL SPOKESPERSON, TRUMP CAMPAIGN: Nobody knows. The problem here is, Mr. Trump saw it on television, several other people saw it and reported it. There is evidence and record of that happening. Whether or not he sat there and counted every last individual head, probably not, but it looked like a lot, just like it did to a lot of people in Jersey and in New York City, by the way.
ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: Katrina Pierson, thank you. We appreciate getting your perspective this morning.
PIERSON: Thanks, Alisyn.
CAMEROTA: Thanks for being on NEW DAY.
We also want to let you know that the last GOP debate of the year is just two weeks away. It's happening right here on CNN. It will be moderated by our dear Wolf Blitzer. Mark your calendar. It is Tuesday, December 15th, 9:00 p.m. Eastern.
Meanwhile, Chris is in Paris for us. Let's get back to him and all of the world leaders.
CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: And all the way from Paris, Alisyn, that stuff about thousands of people, or any number of people cheering as the towers fell, is still untrue. It's as untrue here as it was back then on 9/11.
Now, what brings us here is 150 world leaders in Paris for the COP 21. The U.N.-sanctioned meeting on climate change. They are here to figure out how to make the world a better place. But they're doing it in the midst of abject fear of future terror attacks.
So, how do you strike this balance between keeping this place safe, this summit safe, and the civil liberties that have been so strongly embraced here in Paris? We have a critical discussion when we come back.
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[08:35:30] CUOMO: Big news out of Paris already. President Obama acknowledging the U.S. is partly to blame for climate change. This comes as 150 world leaders gather here in Paris for a historic week in the battle over climate change. The summit called COP 21. A massive security operation also underway. France on virtual lockdown for the summit here.
Let's bring in Melissa Bell, international affairs editor of France 24, along with French journalist Stefan de Vries. Now you'll remember Stefan. He was one of the first to arrive on the scene of the "Charlie Hebdo" attacks, been a good friend of the show.
It's good to have you both. Thank you. Thank you.
MELISSA BELL, INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS EDITOR, FRANCE 24: Thank you.
CUOMO: Melissa, I start with you. President Obama says having the summit in Paris specifically is an act of defiance, showing that the humanitarian world will not be deterred from the cause of freedom. Yet, it is also a great distraction because how do you focus on climate change when you have 120,000 military and police, an unknown terror networks threat. How do you balance these two?
BELL: I suspect it's likely to play in favor of minds coming together in the (INAUDIBLE). And you've seen, as you mentioned, Barack Obama bring it up, but also the French have this sort of deliberate effort to link the two (INAUDIBLE) presiding over this throughout the next 10 days. France's foreign minister, in his speech, said the fact that all of you are here, speaking to the 150 world leaders who gathered, shows that civilization will win out over all that is barbaric. So there is a certain amount of good will. There is a certain amount of determination. Defiance is probably the right word, the one that you used as these leaders go in to this climate conference, with, of course, these extraordinary security measures all around. But I think that rather than divide, it will probably unite, which (INAUDIBLE) doesn't take away of the real obstacles that these leaders face in trying to sign this very first universal and comprehensive -
CUOMO: Tried twice before and failed.
BELL: They've tried before and failed. And, of course, the big word on everyone's mind but that no one dares speaks is Copenhagen. They do not want a repeat of this. They what to come out with something. What they will come out with is, of course, entirely up for grabs. And there are huge divisions between a number of different countries about precisely what the treaty should look like.
CUOMO: President Obama only mentioning the Copenhagen situation in the context of the U.S. making a further commitment since then. He hasn't discussed any other context.
But here's the thing, Stefan, when you look at the situation here. President Obama sold the urgency of climate control, let's say, by saying it is the biggest threat that Americans face. Bigger than terror. It's hard to make that case right now, especially in Paris, isn't it?
STEFAN DE VRIES, JOURNALIST: Well, yes. It's hard to make that case because a lot of people don't think with their brains anymore. They think just with their hearts. And that's exactly the problem. I personally think that climate change is the biggest challenge we've ever faced as humanity. So terrorist attacks, of course, they're horrible, but it's nothing compared to what lies ahead of us.
CUOMO: Why?
DE VRIES: Because we already see a link between a huge number of refugees and climate change. It's a small link, but it's an important one. We will see far more climate migrants, as well. So we're not adapted to that. And the climate change is just killing far more people than terrorism is. And that's maybe a very harsh truth, but we have to express it anyway.
CUOMO: So now we're having this conversation in the midst of what happened just two weeks ago. Paris has 120,000 military and police here. There are numbers all over, 8,000 of this, 3,000 of that. They've locked it down. They've closed the beltway around Paris, akin to the beltway around Washington, D.C., that we have in the U.S. So it's basically safe, at least for now. And yet you surrender a lot in terms of civil liberties under a state of emergency and it's extended for three months instead of the 12 days that it says in the constitution. People think it will go beyond that. How do you start to balance the appetite of the Parisian, of the - of the French men and woman about what's going to happen with liberty versus security?
BELL: Well, you saw it very forcefully out on the streets around (INAUDIBLE), where you and I have been speaking for the last couple of weeks. When these - this - there had been all kinds of planned demonstrations for these 10 days of this conference to do with the climate. People out on the street calling for greater action and they believe that these heads of state and government are going to take in (INAUDIBLE) this week and next. All of them, of course, canceled by this state of emergency. And yet last night people went out to the Place de la Republique nonetheless and there were 300 arrests. That's a huge number. Of course, many of them were sort of die-hard activists that came out to make themselves known saying, we're against the state of emergency itself. So it began as a movement of people wanting to make their voices heard on the question of global warming and it ended up being a movement of a few fairly extreme radicals against the idea of the state of emergency itself.
CUOMO: Some bad actors changing the tenor and tone of what supposed to be is a - be a demonstration.
BELL: And yet it is a real problem. You have to bear in mind that under the state of emergency, more than 20 or so environmental activists were essentially placed under house arrests. This is proving hugely controversial and it's being fought in the courts -
[08:40:07] CUOMO: Before - before the protests they were done (ph) it.
DE VRIES: Yes.
CUOMO: But my point is - I take your point, but to take it one step further, how did you let these people come into the Place de la Republique, of all places, under a state of emergency with all this manpower? You still had thousands out there last night. What does that say about the capabilities and the balance? DE VRIES: Well, there's probably a very simple, logistical reason.
Paris is one of the most densely cities - populated cities in the world. So there are people everywhere. You can't tell them to stay at home. Then you have to set a - put a police officer in front of every door. Maybe that's something the government would actually want to, considering what they've been doing the last two weeks. So it's technically not possible to prevent these kinds of events.
And the demonstration yesterday started as a human chain, which was actually a smart way to get rid of the interdiction to demonstrate, just people holding hands. But, unfortunately, it got out of hand. About 200 to 300 people messed the whole situation up. And apparently it was not possible to contain the situation before the demonstrations were going on simply because there are logistical limits to what the police can do.
CUOMO: Stefan de Vries, thank you very much.
Melissa Bell.
BELL: Thank you.
CUOMO: Our hope is that while there is a big development, a big breakthrough on the climate level, that this is a non-event on the security level for this summit and beyond.
Alisyn, back to you in New York.
CAMEROTA: OK, we certainly hope that as well, Chris. We'll check back in with you.
Meanwhile, today is the day to hop online and cash in on some alleged great deals. Will Cyber Monday beat Black Friday? We'll crunch the numbers for you.
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[08:45:36] CAMEROTA: Paging online shoppers. Listen up, Michaela, it is Cyber Monday. It's time for CNN money now. Chief business correspondent Christine Romans is in our Money Center. Christine, what does Michaela need to know?
MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: What am I buying today?
CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CHIEF BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Well, OK, chances are your e-mail inbox is overflowing this morning with shopping deals. Retailers undercutting each other with steep discounts. It's Cyber Monday. This is something that was made up out of the blue ten years ago, right, from the retailers to try to drum up sales after Black Friday. Today, online sales expected to top 3 billion for the first time. That's up 12 percent from last year.
So Cyber Monday is growing but Black Friday, it's fading. Now it's still one of the biggest shopping days of the year, no question. But crowds were smaller this year. More people have moved to online shopping. They shop throughout the month instead of waiting for one specific day. Now they're calling it Black November instead.
So Michaela, here are the three things you need to know this morning. Don't buy anything that's less -- It has got to be 30 percent off or more. You got to have to have free shipping. Unlimited returns.
PEREIRA: But of course.
ROMANS: Keep your standards high, folks.
PEREIRA: It's not my first Cyber Monday. All right. Thanks so much, Christine.
The Chicago police officer charged in the deadly shooting of a teen is about to find out if he'll be allowed to make bail. We'll hear from the attorney for Laquan McDonald's family next.
But first, this Sunday, we pay tribute to the CNN Heroes of 2015. Here's a look.
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ANNOUNCER (voice-over): Our heroes don't fly, they soar.
ANDRA DAY, MUSICIAN (singing): And I rise up, I rise like the day. I rise up...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't see barriers. I see solutions.
DAY: I rise unafraid, I rise up...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Connecting with the communities along the way helps reestablish your faith in humanity.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Love you.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Love you, too.
DAY: And we'll rise up...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Don't give up on yourself because you're still worthy.
ANNOUNCER: See the stars come out to celebrate the change makers.
KATHY GRIFFIN, ACTRESS & COMEDIAN: We all love to pay tribute, and this is the way we really can.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) people who are living the work that they're doing every day.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's going to be really, really inspiring.
ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome to CNN Heroes.
KELLY RIPA, TALK SHOW HOST: Please join me in honoring CNN Hero --
MAGGIE DOYNE, CNN HERO OF THE YEAR FOR 2015: There's no time to waste.
ANNOUNCER: The top ten CNN Heroes of 2015.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's an honor to be recognized.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is an amazing honor.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you!
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ANNOUNCER: Join Anderson Cooper for "CNN Heroes: An All-Star Tribute," Sunday, December 6th at 8:00.
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[08:51:55] CAMEROTA: Chicago police officer Jason Van Dyke back in court today to learn if he will be granted bail after the release of that graphic dash cam video, showing him shooting 17-year-old Laquan McDonald.
Joining us now is the attorney for Laquan McDonald's family, Jeffrey Neslund. Mr. Neslund, thanks so much for being here.
The general public is just learning about this case because the videos were just recently released. But this happened a year ago and Laquan's family has been dealing with this loss for a year. You have been trying to investigate, to figure out what happened. What led up to this shooting? I know that one of the things that you did was you went to the Burger King that is seen in a little bit of the dash cam video. Laquan ran in front of a Burger King. You went there to get their surveillance footage. There was 86 minutes that were apparently missing from their surveillance video. What do you believe happened to that video?
JEFFREY NESLUND, ATTORNEY FOR LACQUAN MCDONALD'S FAMILY: Well, I believe what we were told by the Burger King employees. We spoke to the manager, the employees that were there that night, the district manager, and they have all told us, my partner, Mike Robbins and myself, that police came into the restaurant shortly after the shooting, demanded access to the video system, and the next day when the district manager came to look at the footage, it was gone. It was deleted. So I take them at their word.
CAMEROTA: What do you think would that video, if it were there, would reveal?
NESLUND: Well, there's no doubt it wouldn't show the actual shooting. The shooting happened just south of the Burger King. But it would have shown the events leading up to the shooting. The chase through the parking lot, the chase in front of the restaurant, and it would have shown the police interaction with witnesses in the drive-through after the shooting. CAMEROTA: This officer, as we all know, has been arrested. He's been
charged with murder. Laquan's family did get a substantial settlement from the city.
NESLUND: Right.
CAMEROTA: Obviously, they don't want him to make -- the officer to make bail today. But beyond that, what does his family want to see happen?
NESLUND: They would like to see the officer prosecuted to the full extent of the law. And you have to understand, this family is still grieving. They're in shock over all of this. And I know they want, not just the shooter, but in my opinion, everyone responsible who tried to cover this up or tried to justify what cannot be justified, should be held accountable.
CAMEROTA: and by that, you mean the police superintendent?
NESLUND: Well, I'm not going to get into political finger pointing. I don't think there is any doubt this could have been handled differently. If you really want to have transparency and accountability in your department, if you want to build trust in the community, this could have been and should have been handled differently.
CAMEROTA: The police union is standing by Officer Van Dyke. In fact, they're paying for his attorney. His attorney was on CNN last week, on Erin Burnett's show, and gave what he says was the rationale for the shooting. Let me play that for you.
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[08:54:59] DANIEL HERBERT, ATTORNEY FOR CHICAGO PD OFFICER JASON VAN DYKE: And when he jumped out of the car, the subject made a motion which put my client in fear that this individual was perhaps going to attack him with a knife.
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CAMEROTA: Mr. Neslund, it sounds like that's what they will say during the trial, that he felt in danger. What's your response?
NESLUND: Sure. Well, I -- first, let me say, I've known Dan Herbert a long time. He's an excellent attorney and I'm sure he'll do a great job for his client. But that said, you cannot justify this shooting. The idea or suggestion that my client was threatening anyone, from 12, 15 feet away, is ridiculous. And then once he's on the ground and he is shot repeatedly, that's nothing but first degree murder, in my opinion.
CAMEROTA: OK. Jeffrey Neslund, thank you for your perspective. Obviously, we will check back in with you as this case progresses. Thanks so much for your time on NEW DAY.
And thanks so much for watching us today. "NEWSROOM" with Carol Costello will pick up right after this quick break. See you tomorrow.
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CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR (voice-over): Happening now in the "NEWSROOM" --
UNIDENTIFIED OFFICER: Shots! I'm under fire, I'm shot. I'm hit!
COSTELLO: After the Planned Parenthood shootout, what we're finding out about the victims. An Iraq war vet, a mother, a police officer killed. And what we're learning about the suspect.
