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HOUCK: That's what they need to do. But the problem is, like Marc said, the problem is so large, where do you start?

[07:00:08] HARLOW: Yes. We've got to start somewhere. I have to leave it there. It's important. We'll keep talking about it. Marc, thank you. Harry, thank you very much.

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HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: What he's saying now is not only shameful and wrong; it's dangerous.

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: People are saying, "You know, Trump is right."

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Party leaders meeting to discuss the real possibility of a brokered convention.

SEN. TED CRUZ (R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Who is prepared to be a commander in chief? Who understands the threat we face?

CARLY FIORINA (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Donald Trump is Hillary Clinton's Christmas gift wrapped up under a tree.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There is a network that is emerging.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: An FBI dive team is searching a lake in San Bernardino.

DAVID BOWDICH, FBI ASSISTANT DIRECTOR IN CHARGE: We've searching to are any evidence that has to do with this crime.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The two killers were spotted here at this park on the day of the massacre.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We will leave no stone unturned.

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ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY, with Chris Cuomo, Alisyn Camerota and Michaela Pereira.

CUOMO: Good morning. Welcome to your NEW DAY. Poppy Harlow -- Harlow joining me this morning.

HARLOW: Good to be here.

CUOMO: Great to have you. Mick and Alisyn are on vacation today.

We have big news for you. The GOP brass are huddling. Thursday on Capitol Hill it was happening. Why? They're discussing the possibility of a brokered convention. Maybe no one gets enough delegates to win before with all the primaries. Maybe they just don't like Mr. Trump at the top of the field. The problem for them is the Republican voters do. In the newest poll, Trump commanding 19-point lead.

HARLOW: Also, Ted Cruz riding a wave of momentum. The Texas senator rising to No. 2 in the polls, and now Cruz has been recorded on tape, because nothing is private in politics, predicting the demise of Donald Trump's campaign, talking specifically about judgment.

CNN's Athena Jones live with us in Washington this morning with the latest.

Good morning, Athena.

ATHENA JONES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Poppy.

That's right, nothing is private. And Trump's spot at the top of the polls makes him a top target of the other GOP contenders. The thing is, so far, nobody has managed to land any punches on him.

That leaked audio from Ted Cruz is raising questions about whether he's going to become the latest candidate to try to knock Trump from his perch.

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CRUZ: Both of them -- I like and respect both Donald and Ben. I do not believe either one of them is going to be our nominee. Their campaigns have a natural arc.

JONES (voice-over): Newly-released audio from a private fund-raiser, provided to "The New York Times," reveals Texas Senator Ted Cruz questioning the judgment of frontrunner Donald Trump and Ben Carson.

CRUZ: Who am I comfortable having their finger on the button? I think the people run as who they are. I believe that gravity will bring both of those campaigns down.

JONES: Cruz has avoided public criticism of the billionaire. But now, just four days away from the next CNN Republican debate, Cruz may not be able to avoid him anymore. The senator now polling second in the latest national GOP poll, even though Trump is leading by almost 20 percent. This as Trump continues to outline controversial proposals. TRUMP: Anybody killing a police officer, death penalty. It's going

to happen. OK?

JONES: The latest, Trump says if elected president, he would sign an executive order to mandate the death penalty for convicted cop killers.

TRUMP: Police forces throughout the country have had a hard time. A lot of people killed. A lot of people killed very violently, sitting in a car, waiting, sitting in a car watching, and somebody comes from behind.

JONES: And Trump's plan to ban all Muslims from entering the U.S. igniting a firestorm of backlash.

HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I no longer think he's funny.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. I will say I started...

JONES: It doesn't appear to be resonating with voters. More than half saying they oppose his controversial ban in a new national poll. Trump's divisive proposals are making the GOP nervous.

Meanwhile, CNN has learned that a group of Republican leaders met in private to discuss a plan for a contested convention, which would be triggered if no candidate has enough delegates to win the nomination.

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JONES: Now, one participant in that GOP meeting said no one is quite sure what's going to happen. The point here is that, given the crowded field and the way the delegates are awarded, they've got to be prepared for a fight to the finish in this race for the Republican nomination -- Chris.

CUOMO: All right, Athena, thank you very much.

Let's bring in someone who's in that fight, Republican presidential candidate Carly Fiorina.

Ms. Fiorina, thank you very much for joining us this morning.

CARLY FIORINA (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Good morning. Thank you for having me.

CUOMO: Let's look at the polls. Not a happy subject for you right now: 1 percent in the national, trending down in New Hampshire. What's your analysis?

FIORINA: Oh, actually, I'm pretty happy with where I am. You know, when I started May 4, nobody gave me a chance. I was 17 out of 16. The pollsters didn't even ask my name. and now I'm in the main debate stage. That's where I'm going to stay. This is going to be a long process of elimination before it's a process of selection. And when we finally get to the process of selection, I'll be standing there. [07:05:18] But there is no doubt that Donald Trump is dominating the

airwaves on every single network. And that's reflected in the national polls.

CUOMO: You think it's just about popularity? I mean, we've given you lots of attention. Your numbers have gone the opposite direction.

FIORINA: Oh, come on, Chris. You haven't given me or anyone else anywhere near the attention that Donald Trump receives on your network. On every other network, he dominates the news coverage, day after day after day. And when he stops dominating the news coverage, he makes an outrageous statement so that he dominates it once again.

CUOMO: But he's at the top of the polls. Obviously, the frontrunner demands that kind of attention. He seems to be connecting with voters in the way that you and the rest of the field is not. Don't you have to give him his due?

FIORINA: I think here's what's going on. I think Donald Trump knows how to play the media like a master. I think he's a pied piper. I think he says things, and you all rush to cover it. Every single network. I'm not being critical of CNN any more than anyone else. But he knows how to dominate the news coverage, and I think it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy in the polls. I'm not saying he doesn't resonate with voters. Voters are deeply afraid. And voters are very frustrated.

And in a way, Donald Trump is a reaction to the unbelievable weakness and delusional nature of national security policy from Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

For heaven's sakes, we have terrorist attacks in the homeland in a community center in San Bernardino, and President Obama begins talking about gun control, as does Hillary Clinton and climate change. People are utterly frustrated by the ineptitude of this government and the lack of a realistic response.

Unfortunately, for Donald Trump, he doesn't have a realistic response either. And every single one of his proposals, while they garner a lot of attention on television, they do nothing to solve the problem.

Banning all Muslims from entering the U.S., set aside the objectionable nature of that proposal, it does nothing to protect us from those who are already here. It does nothing to deny ISIS territory, both of which have to happen to keep America safe.

CUOMO: Two things. First, 40 percent of your party agrees with Trump about a ban or some kind of limitation of Muslims.

And second, is there any other country you'd rather live in, in terms of being safe from terror than the United States?

FIORINA: I would rather live nowhere than the United States of America. But I also know that this administration has been feckless on this issue. Hillary Clinton has gotten every foreign policy challenge wrong. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton declared victory in Iraq in 2011,

withdrew precipitously against the advice of every single general. They did so for political expediency to win an election, and they left behind vast swaths of territory that ISIS could conquer, and weaponry besides that they took over. And they have not had a serious response to this threat.

And so, yes, people are very afraid, and they are very frustrated. And talking about climate change in Paris two weeks after a major terrorist attack makes people even more afraid and frustrated.

What I'm focused on, the candidate with more foreign policy experience, honestly, than anyone running, more understanding of our intelligence and our military capabilities, more experience in and around the world, what I'm talking about are very specific solutions: how we engage the private sector to make sure that our investigative teams have the information they need, how to work with our allies to deny ISIS territory. We need to put forward realistic solutions to solve this problem.

This administration has not. Hillary Clinton has not. But Donald Trump has not either.

CUOMO: When you say you have the most foreign experience in the field, you're not including Hillary Clinton in that, are you? She was secretary of state.

FIORINA: Well, she was secretary of state. It's true. And she flew around a lot, and she met a lot of people and she did a lot of photo ops. I've met not as many foreign leaders as she has, but a lot. More than anyone else. And I didn't do photo ops.

CUOMO: But on what basis do you have more foreign policy...

FIORINA: ... or a charity or a policy.

CUOMO: On what basis do you have more than the secretary of state?

FIORINA: I have the highest clearances available. I was talking about the Republican field.

CUOMO: Oh, OK.

FIORINA: I have quite a bit of foreign policy experience, having done business in 170 countries, charity in many countries, having held the highest clearances available to a civilian, chaired the advisory board of the CIA, advised the NSA, two secretaries of defense, a secretary of state and a secretary of homeland security. I know our military leaders and our intelligence capabilities. So I think I have quite a bit, actually.

And she may have met world leaders, but she hasn't used that experience to advance our cause. She has been wrong on every single foreign policy challenge. Whether it was calling Bashar al-Assad a positive reformer before she decided he had to go. Or thinking that Vladimir Putin's ambition, whom I've also met, could be stopped with a gimmicky red reset button. Or calling for the deposal of Moammar Gadhafi, and then ignoring everything going on in Libya so that we had a terrorist attack in Benghazi, which she has never answered for.

[07:10:15] CUOMO: So when you're looking at the field right now, you say among the GOP candidates, at least, although you just made a good case for you versus Hillary Clinton, you don't think anybody has the foreign experience you do, even if they were sitting senators, even if they're governors who have had tons of time in Washington dealing with these issues? You think you're still the better choice?

FIORINA: I do. And by the way, it's one thing to sit in a Senate hearing floor and read a briefing book. It's another thing to know these people. It's another thing to have been in these countries over decades. It's another thing to have sat with CIA and NSA people and given them advice. So it's one thing to read about things in the world. It's another thing to know things about the world.

I believe I am the most qualified candidate to win this job and to do this job. And I'm going to continue to make that case to the people of New Hampshire, which is where I am this morning, but to the people of America. And that's why I think I have confounded every poll and every pundit -- by the way, just to be clear, the pundits have been wrong about absolutely everything in this race. Everything in this race. And they've been wrong about me as well.

So we've got a long way to go is the point, Chris. We've got a long way to go.

CUOMO: You're very -- there's no question we've got a long way to go, but we've come a long way, as well. And you're very analytical. I mean, you see the poll numbers are going the wrong way. What do you account for it in terms of what you did that took the air out of the balloon? Do you think it was what you said about Planned Parenthood?

FIORINA: No, absolutely not. In fact, I have gotten huge support for my strong pro-life stand.

You know, we've come a long way. I mean, yes, you, I, everybody else who's a political junkie, we've spent the last six months talking about politics. But here's what history and the polls tell us.

The vast majority of people make up their minds in last two weeks. We have over 50 days to go. People haven't even started voting, and a lot of people haven't even started paying attention. So what we also know from history is national polls at this point in a race are never predictive. Never. They never have been. So we've got a long way to go.

CUOMO: Now, when we're looking with what happened here in Colorado, very often you've said Trump has got to watch what he says; it has implications. Do you feel any sense of regret about how you characterized what was going on at Planned Parenthood after the attack in Colorado? Because of what the man said, which seems as though he was influenced by some of the rhetoric coming out of you and others that painted a very ugly picture, an unfair one, about Planned Parenthood? FIORINA: Oh, please, really, Chris? Look, nine videotapes have come

out about Planned Parenthood. It is very clear what they have been doing. And in fact, Planned Parenthood several weeks ago made a quiet little announcement that they would no longer accept compensation for the sale of what they call fetal tissue. That's about as close to an admission you can get. In fact, it is an admission.

CUOMO: That's not what they say.

FIORINA: Look, what happened in Colorado -- what happened in Colorado is a terrible thing. This guy is a deranged murderer, and I hope he is put away for life. It may be that we should be classifying that as domestic terrorism, as well. But that has nothing to do with the truth of what is going on in Planned Parenthood.

And this is a typical left-wing tactic, to try and shut down the truth by silencing people. This has happened over and over and over again.

CUOMO: Ms. Fiorina...

FIORINA: Let's focus on -- yes?

CUOMO: The question doesn't go away. The videos were edited. You know that. The scenes that were depicted...

FIORINA: Actually, I don't know that. There has been forensic evidence of those nine videotapes over and over again. There have been reports that say they are not edited. So...

CUOMO: Of course they were edited. Of course those videos were edited.

FIORINA: It's amazing to me that we're still having this conversation.

CUOMO: No, no, no. Let's be careful about what we're saying. Of course they were edited. What you're saying...

FIORINA: Let's be very careful about what we're saying, Chris. Let's be very careful about what we're saying.

CUOMO: You're saying that the raw -- you're saying that the raw portions of the video substantiate the claims that you and others made. That has not been proven to any satisfaction in any objective way.

There were scenes and pictures depicting horrible things that nobody should want to see that weren't authentic and weren't germane to the conversation within the video.

We had the guy on here.

FIORINA: Here's -- here's the thing.

CUOMO: He couldn't justify it. Now you have somebody that went out and killed in the name of that. FIORINA: Really? Really? OK, I don't recall, Chris, careful, you're

a journalist.

CUOMO: Yes.

FIORINA: I don't recall anybody in the pro-life community celebrating this tragedy. I don't real any of that happening. And I also know for a fact that Planned Parenthood -- by the way, have you ever watched those videos?

CUOMO: Yes, I have.

FIORINA: You have to if you haven't.

CUOMO: I have.

FIORINA: You really ought to if you haven't.

CUOMO: I have I said.

FIORINA: I don't understand why Planned Parenthood would make an announcement that they're no longer accepting compensation.

CUOMO: To clarify a policy that was used to villainize them when they felt that there was no need to do that. That's what the head of the organization says.

[07:15:07] FIORINA: Well, it's clear what -- it's clear -- it's clear what your opinion is, Chris. It's clear what your opinion is.

CUOMO: What's my opinion, Ms. Fiorina? What do you think it is?

FIORINA: Well, I think you've bought the Planned Parenthood line, hook, line and sinker. So good to know that.

CUOMO: No. What I'm saying is, I'm asking you if you feel that, coming out of Colorado, it gave you any new sense of the power of rhetoric and what it can do, especially when it's playing on a sensitive issue like abortion. Because of what we just saw with, as we agree, this deranged man who went out and killed in the name of saving the baby parts.

FIORINA: OK. So in other words, you would also accept that President Obama's rhetoric might incite people when he is standing in the Philippines and saying that anyone who opposes any of his policies, whether it's the Iran deal or stopping Syrian refugees, when he says that some of us, like me, like other Republicans are as bad as the Iranian hard-liners shouting "death to America"; or that we are as bad -- we're giving ISIS recruitment tools. You would say that that rhetoric is a problem, as well?

I mean, it is unconscionable, to use your word, to deride people who are conservative their rhetoric but not to acknowledge that the left uses incendiary rhetoric all the time.

It is not objective to say that the left wing does not try and shut down conversation that they don't want to have by accusing people of inciting others. This has happened in election cycle after election cycle.

Remember Sarah Palin? Sarah Palin was somehow responsible for the murder -- the attack on Gabby Gifford. It turned out that wasn't true either.

CUOMO: Well, I don't know anything about what you're saying about Sarah Palin. I certainly never made that allusion.

FIORINA: Of course you do. Of course you do.

CUOMO: No, no. I really never have.

FIORINA: Everybody made that allusion.

CUOMO: But I didn't, Ms. Fiorina. You've got to be careful about who you accuse of what. What I'm saying is that, of course, dangerous rhetoric is what it is. It should be identified and it should be called out, because it doesn't help the process.

FIORINA: Well, have you ever identified President Obama's dangerous rhetoric? Have you ever identified President Obama's dangerous rhetoric?

CUOMO: I don't understand what -- I don't understand what President Obama...

FIORINA: Have you ever identified Hillary Clinton...

CUOMO: ... in the Philippines has to do with you and Planned Parenthood. What does one have to do with the other?

FIORINA: You...

CUOMO: It's just a question about whether or not you felt differently. That's all. Do you feel differently after what you said there and what happened in Colorado?

FIORINA: I do not. You don't like my answer. I do not. I stand by my statement. I stand by the facts, and I think Planned Parenthood has done an excellent job of pulling the wool over lots of people's eyes. I am asking you a question, Chris.

CUOMO: Please.

FIORINA: Which is do you not acknowledge that the left wing uses incendiary rhetoric over and over and over again to silence messages that they don't want to deal with?

When Hillary Clinton stands on a debate stage and says the enemy she is most proud of are Republicans, does that help our political dialogue? I don't think so.

CUOMO: I would agree with you. I think that what we have seen out of both parties is disgusting. I think it's cheapened the process. I think it's turned people off, and I think it's fed an anger that now is almost out of control.

And I think that the job of all of us is try to bring the system back into conformity with what it was supposed to be about, which is people with different ideas going at it, not scaring people, not pushing people to violence.

FIORINA: OK. Well, I agree with you on that. And so what I'm going to continue to do is talk about the facts, talk about the truth, talk about what's really happening and talk about real solutions to solve what is actually happening. That's what I'm going to do.

CUOMO: You are always welcome to come on NEW DAY to do exactly that, Ms. Fiorina. Thank you for doing it today.

FIORINA: Thanks, Chris. Thanks. Have a great day.

CUOMO: All right. You, too.

So how will the next president keep this country safe? You just heard that's a big issue. Four days from now, Wolf Blitzer is going to moderate the final GOP debate of the year right here on CNN. Coverage begins Tuesday night at 6 Eastern with the undercard; 8:30 Eastern, that's the main debate, Poppy. We're going to be there, of course.

HARLOW: Fascinating interview with Carly Fiorina, Chris.

Also this, breaking news on the business front. Two of the biggest chemical companies that employ tens of thousands of people, they are announcing plans to join forces. DuPont, Dow Chemical announcing this morning they will merge in an all-stock deal valued at $130 billion. The new name of the company, Dow DuPont. There are plans to split that company into three. As it goes with these deals, it will face intense regulatory scrutiny. What will it mean for jobs? It matters to a lot of you. We'll keep on it.

CUOMO: The fight against global terror, the threat very much in focus and in question. What is working? What is not? There's so much criticism out there. We have a former homeland security chief. Let's get the straight talk from him, next.

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[07:23:48] HARLOW: Welcome back to your NEW DAY. National security an increasingly important topic in this 2016 election, with terror threats expanding at home and abroad. We will tackle the issue. It is the focus of the next CNN Republican debate. The last GOP debate of the year, Tuesday night, hosted by our very own Wolf Blitzer.

This morning, new questions being raised about the connection between one San Bernardino terrorist and a convicted terror recruiter right in his state, California.

Tom Ridge is with me now. He's the chairman of Ridge Global, the former homeland security secretary, the governor of Pennsylvania and also congressman.

Thank you so much for being with me. No one better to get their perspective on this.

You have said point blank we are not being offensive enough on this front. Let's take a listen to what Senator Lindsey Graham said on the Hill this week.

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SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R-SC), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Is there any evidence that this marriage was arranged by a terrorist organization or terrorist operative? Or was it just a meeting on the Internet?

JAMES COMEY, FBI DIRECTOR: I don't know the answer to that yet.

GRAHAM: Do you agree with me that, if it was arranged by a terrorist operative or organization, that is a game changer?

COMEY: It would be a very, very important thing to know.

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HARLOW: That's the head of the FBI saying there they don't know that. they're trying to figure it out.

Talk to me about what difference you think we have learned in the fight against terror from just this case with all of these open questions, sir.

TOM RIDGE, FORMER HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY: Well, first of all, I think we are always underestimated the global reach of these jihadists. I think we have also not demonstrated to these radicals that we are not as committed. And I don't mean just the United States. I mean the broader western community. We are not as committed to their defeat and destruction as they are to our defeat and destruction. I think it's languished too long. There's not been a global strategy among the civilized world to defeat them.

I think Lindsey's question and Jim's response highlight once again that global reach. And whether it's an arranged marriage or not, it is pretty clear to me they couldn't have done this alone. So they obviously had auxiliary support here in the United States. And that's one of the reasons I think the FBI is working so furiously to find out other connections as it relates to the San Bernardino tragedy.

HARLOW: Yes. So let's dig into your words a little bit. It's one thing to point to President Obama's rhetoric and the changing tone. And I know you and other -- there are other Republicans who have been critical of it and said his words don't match the threat. That's one thing.

But then there's another thing to assess the capabilities of the United States and U.S. intelligence. Are you saying something was missed on the intelligence front?

RIDGE: Well, it's tough to say, you know. And I don't necessarily believe that every incident is the result of an intelligence failure. Let's face it: I think democracies by definition are soft targets.

And I don't think that every incident necessarily means that somebody failed to do their job or their due diligence was inadequate.

One of the revelations I do think that we see here as a result of the San Bernardino tragedy is that it appears that law enforcement may have had a connection or two between one of the actors and other terrorists. But because the connection wasn't deep enough or certain enough, they kind of let that investigation slide.

I've heard several people comment over the past couple of days that the FBI doesn't have enough people on the streets to follow up on some of its leads. And I think I understand what the problem is, but I don't think the FBI really takes advantage of over 700,000 men and women in the state and local level, over 12,000 police departments to share that.

We're never going to build up the FBI so they have an infrastructure that covers the states. But I think more information sharing to support the FBI might be one of the gaps that we can close in the future.

HARLOW: All right. So what about the fact that, as a coincidence, four days before the attack in California, the NSA, you know, bulk data collection program ended. They've still got two years' worth of data. They can't get five years' worth of data. Some have said moot point. She, the female terrorist, didn't come into this country until two years ago.

But just your broader -- as you talk about getting the most information possible to protect this country, does that concern you, sir?

RIDGE: Well, it does concern me if there is, clearly -- if there's evidence out there or information out there that, in the normal course of business, we could have acquired. It concerns me if there was a -- the possibility based on previous references to one or both of these people with their actions, either overseas or here, that we didn't follow up. That concerns me.

But I also think that we need to really understand that not every incident means somebody didn't do their job. It is conceivable that people could conspire to bring harm and destruction, death and honor to the United States without it being on the Internet, without anybody else knowing.

It's conceivable, given the kind of interview process we have and the work that the State Department did they didn't quite pick things up, because there was nothing to be seen. It's easy to take a look at what happened after the fact and try to connect the dots.

The question is whether or not we did enough due diligence before. And in order to do that, you have to say there was something tangible to see. I don't know that yet. I think that's why the FBI is working so furiously. HARLOW: Certainly, and our thanks to all law enforcement officers out there doing their job. It's easy for people to Monday morning quarterback on all of this, no question.

Got to ask you before I let you go. You were in the beautiful state of New Hampshire. You were with Jeb Bush. You've been up with him for two days. National polls not looking good. Let's pull it up. Three percent right now for your friend Jeb Bush. What does he have to do? Can he turn this around, frankly?

RIDGE: Well, first of all, I've had a great two days with Jeb. I've had a couple town meetings with him. You know, I for one, is somebody that doesn't take too much stock in national polls.

Frankly, even in my own close elections for Congress and governor, I was -- was losing badly until the last couple weeks. So I think that, particularly New Hampshire residents have told me over the last couple days, we haven't made up our mind yet. We've got to see more of these candidates. We want to hear more of these candidates. We need to go to more town meetings.

The holiday season is upon us. We're going to start paying a lot more attention after the first of the year. And Jeb has to keep on doing what he's doing. He's got great ground operation here in Nevada, South Carolina and Iowa. We're going to do very well in New Hampshire.

HARLOW: All right. Governor Tom Ridge, appreciate you joining me this morning. Thank you, sir. Have a nice weekend.

RIDGE: Great pleasure to join you. Thank you.

HARLOW: Chris, back to you.

CUOMO: All right, Poppy, it's a good take on the national security system and the ongoing race...