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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In just hours, here, President Obama will officially announce his executive action on guns.

[05:58:52] SEN. TED CRUZ (R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Trying to go after our right to keep and bear arms.

CARLY FIORINA (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Lawless in his use of executive orders.

SEN. MARCO RUBIO (R-FL), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: On my first day behind that desk, those orders are gone.

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: It will potentially save lives in this country.

GOV. CHRIS CHRISTIE (R-NJ), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Show time is over, everybody. We are not electing an entertainer in chief.

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We don't need four more years of Obama. And that's what you're getting with Hillary.

HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm going to let him live in his alternative reality, and I'm not going to respond.

BILL CLINTON, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: And I thought an election was supposed to be a job interview.

ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: Standoff in Oregon.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A peaceful protest became an armed occupation.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We came very well-prepared.

AMMON BUNDY, PROTESTOR: We're going to stay here until we have secured the land and the resources.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's time for you to leave our community.

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ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo and Alisyn Camerota and Michaela Pereira.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning. Welcome to your NEW DAY. It is Tuesday, January 5, 6 a.m. in the East.

President Obama in just a Matter of hours is going to reveal his executive actions to combat gun violence. What's he going to do? Well, he's going to call for expanded mandatory background checks from private firearm sales. Critics are already calling the measure an assault on the Second Amendment.

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: The president also wants to beef up funding for the FBI and ATF to enforce the existing gun laws. But he'll need Congress for that. He plans to sell his ideas to the American people when he joins Anderson Cooper for an exclusive one- hour live town hall on guns this Thursday night on CNN.

But first, let's bring in CNN's White House correspondent, Michelle Kosinski. Tell us what they're saying this morning, Michelle.

MICHELLE KOSINSKI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, they're really clarifying who is in the business of selling guns and who's a private seller. So you can see right now there could be a lot of people who were saying they're just private sellers or collectors, but the federal government is about to say, "No, you're not."

But, you know, the president is acting alone here. He can't make up new laws. He needs to act within existing laws. So you see the administration trying to make changes everywhere they can, but immediately, you also see the limits they're up against. I mean, they're presenting these changes as proposals or guidance or encouragement with enforcement being a big question.

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OBAMA: It will potentially save lives in this country.

KOSINSKI: President Obama teeing up to announce a major overhaul on gun control this morning, giving Congress a hard pass.

OBAMA: These are recommendations that are well within my legal authority and the executive branch.

KOSINSKI: The president set to lay out a series of executive orders, including clarifying that anyone in the business of selling guns must acquire a license and ensure background checks, no Matter the volume of guns sold or where.

The White House also urging more state reporting of background check records that could disqualify buyers with mental illness or a history of domestic violence.

Proposing beefing up the background check system itself. Hiring more staff to operate it around the clock.

And the president will ask for much more funding for mental health treatment.

The Democratic campaign trail buzzing with excitement.

CLINTON: I am so proud of what the president announced today.

The next president on the very first day could wipe it away. No. I won't wipe it away.

KOSINSKI: Oh, the next president could very well wipe it away. And that's exactly what the GOP 2016 hopefuls plan to do.

RUBIO: Don't worry, when I'm elected president on my first day behind that desk, those orders are gone.

TRUMP: I will veto that. I will unsign that so fast. So fast.

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KOSINSKI: And new House Speaker Paul Ryan put out a statement calling President Obama dismissive of the Second Amendment, saying he's subverting Congress and that, quote, "No president should be able to reverse legislative failure by executive fiat, not even incrementally" -- Chris.

CUOMO: All right, Michelle. Thank you very much.

In the next hour we're going to talk more about the plan with his senior adviser, Valerie Jarrett.

CAMEROTA: Also, another special programming reminder. President Obama will join Anderson Cooper for an exclusive live town-hall event on guns in America. The president will discuss his executive action, and he will take questions from a live studio audience, which will obviously get very interesting. A town hall on guns in America with President Obama moderated by Anderson, this Thursday at 8 p.m., only on CNN.

PEREIRA: A frenzy of activity in Iowa and New Hampshire in campaign 2016. Republican candidates swarming, sharpening their messages and their attacks on frontrunner Donald Trump.

Twenty-seven days and counting until the Iowa caucuses. The New Hampshire primary coming just eight days after that.

CNN's Athena Jones live in Dairy, New Hampshire. All of these numbers, the excitement is building.

ATHENA JONES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's right. Good morning, Michaela.

The GOP candidates were out in force. They blasted President Obama's proposed moves on gun control, but they also attacked each other. Marco Rubio warning against isolationism in foreign policy, a critique aimed at Ted Cruz.

Cruz, meanwhile, hitting Rubio on immigration, saying he supported a massive amnesty. And despite spending a lot of time over the past several days talking about former president Bill Clinton's past indiscretions, Trump kept the focus on Hillary Clinton last night on the stump, saying electing her would be like four more years of Obama or worse.

Meanwhile, Chris Christie, who is rising in polls here in New Hampshire, attacked, well, everybody. Take a listen.

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CHRISTIE: I wonder if the people in Egypt think, now that they live under martial law, that their lives are better because Hillary Clinton called for the ouster of Hosni Mubarak.

Show time is over, everybody. We are not electing an entertainer in chief. We don't need a president who's going to sit behind the desk the first day, spin around in the chair and say, "Gee-whiz, isn't it amazing I'm president?"

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JONES: That last line was aimed at the first-term senators running for president. Christie argues they just aren't ready because they haven't run anything. So guys, this is just a sampling of what's to come -- Alisyn.

[06:05:02] CAMEROTA: OK, Athena, thank you for that.

Over on the Democratic side, frontrunner Hillary Clinton keeping up her big push in Iowa and trying to tighten the gap with Bernie Sanders in New Hampshire. Former president Bill Clinton now hitting the campaign trail on her behalf.

Let's bring in senior Washington correspondent Jeff Zeleny. He's live in Des Moines, Iowa. Give us all the latest, Jeff.

JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Hey, good morning, Alisyn.

A one-two punch from the Clintons. Bill Clinton campaigning in New Hampshire. Hillary -- Secretary Clinton campaigning here in Iowa opening up a two-day push beginning yesterday.

Now, you almost think there's not a Democratic primary at all on this side. They're focusing entirely on the Republican side. But they're doing it in slightly different ways. Listen to how President Clinton talked about the Republican side yesterday.

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B. CLINTON: I don't fit anymore. First of all, I'm a happy grandfather. I'm not mad at anybody. And secondly, I thought an election was supposed to be a job interview.

(END VIDEO CLIP) ZELENY: Thought it should be a job interview. Well, he is

trying to use the happy side of this but focusing intensely on the Republicans.

But Hillary Clinton for her part did not take the bait from Donald Trump. Neither did her husband. That's potentially what he thought that they would do. She was asked yesterday by a voter in Cedar Rapids yesterday specifically to respond to some of the things that Donald Trump had been saying.

Let's listen to what she said about a potential New Year's resolution.

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H. CLINTON: I've adopted a New Year's resolution. I'm going to let him live in his alternative reality, and I'm not going to respond.

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ZELENY: So we'll see if that holds up or not for the next month or so, not responding, because that is essentially what she did throughout the day, talking about all Republicans.

But one thing she left out was Bernie Sanders. She did not talk about any of her Democratic rivals at all here. She is trying to convince Republicans she's the strongest nominee by showing how -- how intensely she's going after all these Republicans. So Chris and Alisyn, slightly less than a month here to go before those Iowa caucuses start 2016.

CAMEROTA: OK, Jeff, thanks so much for that.

CUOMO: Appreciate it very much. The one thing that distinguishes Hillary Clinton, for sure, from Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders is -- hasn't been on NEW DAY yet. the invitation is out there, as always.

CAMEROTA: I was going to go with bright pink suit or Bill Clinton.

CUOMO: I've seen the Donald work a bright pink suit. You haven't seen anything yet.

All right. Let's discuss what is going on this morning with this sweeping change? From President Obama and the other political goings on. We have CNN political commentator and political anchor of Time Warner Cable News, Mr. Errol Louis. And senior contributor to "The Daily Caller" and conservative commentator, Mr. Matt Lewis.

Matt, happy new year to you. I haven't seen you yet.

Errol, I start with you. I did this when I was talking about sweeping change, because I don't see it. I see both sides exaggerating the potential of these executive orders greatly. Gun control advocates are saying, "Wow, what a historic thing." No, it isn't. It's clarifying existing law.

You have other people saying it's an assault on the Second Amendment. How? When it's just clarifying what's existing law.

ERROL LOUIS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, exactly right. This is one of those silent covenants you have between both sides. Right? It will be in the interest of all of the Republican presidential candidates to say, this is massive. This is huge. I'm going to undo it. I'm going to unsign it in my first day in office. And it is, in fact, in President Obama's interests to say that "I can't do much, but I'm going to do something big and profound and transformative." It's not really going to be that.

On the other hand, if it moves the discussion in any way forward, and we can cross our fingers and hope, perhaps we get out of what has been, you know, sort of a decade-long gridlock on this issue.

I mean, the polls show 40 percent in favor of things that the president is thinking about doing. Forty percent absolutely oppose. Twenty percent sort of on the sidelines, and that's where we've been for ten years now.

CAMEROTA: All right. Well, hold on a second. Let me challenge you on that and bring in Matt. Matt, doesn't it close the so-called gun show loophole? Doesn't it close the Internet sales that have been largely sort of a free for all online? And to challenge your statistics, don't 89 percent of Americans believe that we should close the gun show loophole?

MATT LEWIS, CONSERVATIVE COMMENTATOR: Well, first of all, we don't know specifics yet, of course, but looking at the media reports, I think, really, what this does is clarify existing law.

And by the way, I think that everyone is in on this. You know, it's in the best interest of both sides to pretend this is a big deal. And we should probably be doing that, as well, to ratchet this up as a big deal.

Again, we don't know the details yet. But the gun show loophole, really, I think the big problem, if you're concerned about gun violence, I don't think this is going to solve it.

The big problem would be individual sales. You know, I could sell a gun to my cousin at a gun show as an individual or just to a stranger as an individual. I'm not a dealer. And this doesn't change that.

CUOMO: Well, Matt, just so you know, we don't know what the executive orders are yet, you know, by detail. But the ATF put out some documents, which was very helpful in my waking up process this morning, to read all these different scenarios. They have defined more tightly what catches you in the loop.

[06:10:06] CAMEROTA: Yes, what makes a dealer.

CUOMO: However, I will tell you this, though, Alisyn. One of the first examples they give is, well, you know, if you're selling at a gun show, you probably can only do it to those in state.

So the first example they give shows that there's still a possibility to transfer at a gun show without requiring a background check. But then they go through detailed things. If you're trying to make a profit, if you buy and sell guns, if you do it for volume, and you're not just liquidating a personal collection, these things all go.

But then I looked at the statute. That was all in there pretty much anyway.

CAMEROTA: So they're clarifying it?

LOUIS: Yes. Yes, I mean, that really is what's going on. Although those transfers, the particulars of it, I agree with Matt. I mean, that's really what this is about: trying in some way to sort of bring some of these personal, smaller transactions under the loop of federal scrutiny and registration. That's the one step that the president could take that would start to change the regime of how we have 100 million guns floating around.

CUOMO: I'll just say, the NRA attorney came out and said...

LEWIS: If he went there, it would be -- that's what it would be nuclear. If President Obama were to go after these individual transactions, not dealers, but individuals, that would be, I think, crossing a Rubicon, and you would see a huge, huge pushback.

CUOMO: I'm telling you, the examples from the ATF in this document are all individuals. It's all...

CAMEROTA: But I think family-to-family transfer does not appear to be affected. I mean, that's what people often say. If your grandfather wants to give you an heirloom, that is not affected.

CUOMO: The ATF makes it clear in its document that that's not going to be captured by this executive order.

CAMEROTA: Right.

CUOMO: In their clarification, not the executive order. But every one of their examples is an individual. It's Alisyn has a kid going to college. She's decided to buy guns to sell them on this in overtime. That doesn't qualify, and here's why. So they are trying to make it about individuals.

CAMEROTA: All right. So that's going to need some clarification in a few hours.

Let's also talk about something that needed clarification over the past 12 hours, and that is Donald Trump's newest, first television ad. So Errol, as you know, in his ad, he showed people running, scores of people running...

CUOMO: Thousands and thousands. CAMEROTA: ... across the border. And it said, "Migrants at the

southern border." Of Morocco, we now know. He clarified that is not Mexico. That's not the U.S. It's Morocco.

CUOMO: It rhymes with Mexico, by the way.

CAMEROTA: And it starts with an "M." Is it OK to have a misleading campaign?

LOUIS: Well, I mean, look, the ads may. They have acknowledged it. They're not pretending that this is something that it's not. They're going to probably just say this is the point, and we don't want Mexico and the Texas border to look like Morocco.

CAMEROTA: That is what they're saying.

LOUIS: Yes. So -- so there you have it. Right? I mean, it's an emotional appeal. If you look in the -- in the context of the whole ad, we all watched it yesterday, it's got the ominous music. It's got the shadowy figures. It's got the black and white. It's got the slow motion, all of the different things, check, check, check. This is supposed to scare you. Whether you're scared because this was something that was done at the Rio Grande or in Morocco doesn't make that much difference. It's an emotional punch of an ad. It's not about sort of getting a lot of information. Because frankly, the ad says, "I'm going to stop this." Never says how.

CUOMO: Well, wait a minute. Why does it not matter that much? We made such a stink about the image that was very emotionally moving in the Planned Parenthood undercover videos that didn't belong from a Planned Parenthood abortion. We made a big deal that it was deceptive. It was false, emotional warfare. But this doesn't qualify?

LOUIS: This is a pattern. Donald Trump's, you know, images of people protesting in the West Bank on 9/11 and somehow transposed it to -- to Jersey City.

CAMEROTA: So you're giving up, basically, Errol?

LOUIS: Well, not -- listen, there's a great deal of freedom when you're talking about political ads. I mean, nobody is holding -- nobody is pretending this is a documentary, right? I mean, it's an emotional appeal. And anybody who looks at that and doesn't get that it's simply an emotional appeal, not really tethered to specific facts, I think is kind of missing the point of the ad.

CAMEROTA: Well, that's exactly what Donald Trump said last night on FOX News. Matt, listen to how Donald Trump explained it. Stand by.

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LEWIS: It's just a display of what our country is going to look like. We're like a third-world country; we're a dumping ground. So you can just take it any way you want. (END VIDEO CLIP)

CUOMO: Does this pass the smell test, Matt?

LEWIS: The best thing was somebody on the Internet that took the Donald Trump ad and used scenes from "World War Z," where people were trying to, you know, climb walls. I think it was in Israel.

Look, here's the thing. I think Errol is right. I mean, it works -- if Donald Trump gets away with it, then it works. And I think that he does. You know, nothing really stops him, and I think that this could have been a scandal if this was another candidate.

I mean, remember, as Mitch McConnell used an ad using the wrong college football team, you know, in some "B" roll in one of his ads. And it became, like, a scandal in Kentucky that lasted for weeks and weeks and weeks. And here you have Donald Trump using this -- he says now, "Of course, it -- we were just using it to show what might happen. I don't know that that's clear that they -- that they made that clear from the beginning. But he gets away with it. That's all that matters. It works.

[06:15:09] CAMEROTA: There you go. Errol, Matt, thank you very much. Great to get your perspective.

LEWIS: Thank you.

CAMEROTA: Michaela.

PEREIRA: All right. Some breaking news: another country adding to the fallout in the devolving relations between Saudi Arabia and Iran. Kuwait siding with the Saudis, recalling its ambassador to Iran this morning. The United Arab Emirates, Bahrain and Sudan, all Sunni strongholds, also cutting or downgrading ties with Tehran. Now Iran's President Rouhani slamming Saudi Arabia for severing political relations. That tension started after Saudi Arabia's embassy was attacked in Iran, following the execution of a prominent Shiite clerk.

CUOMO: More breaking news. There is an active standoff at a motel in Decatur, Georgia. Police say a man is holding a woman and possibly 11 children inside a room in a domestic dispute. SWAT team is on the scene negotiating with the man. Police say he does have a knife, at least. We'll keep you updated as more information becomes available.

CAMEROTA: Well, the sheriff of Harney County, Oregon, offering strong words to those occupiers of the federal wildlife refuge. He says go home. The activists refusing to budge. They say they are looking at other cases where the federal government is stepping on the rights of ranchers. Meanwhile, ranchers Dwight and Steven Hammond, whose cause sparked this whole protest, surrendered to authorities on Monday.

CUOMO: Three NFL teams -- the Chargers, Raiders and Rams -- all officially filing papers for relocation to L.A. next season. League owners are expected to decide which teams, if any, get to move at a meeting next week.

Now, the NFL has said it does want one new stadium in the L.A. market, and it could be able to house two teams. All right.

The New York Giants are in the market for a new head coach after Tom Coughlin resigned Monday. Coughlin led the Big Blue to two Super Bowl titles in 12 seasons.

PEREIRA: Lots of changes in the NFL.

CUOMO: Yes. And, you know, this was a little bit, they say, of a dignity move. You know, resign. They were going to move on him. Three straight losing seasons. But he certainly did great, great things with the second best team in New York.

PEREIRA: Nice little football roundup for us there.

All right. Bill Clinton is hitting the campaign trail, trying to sell voters on his wife's softer side. There's a topic, though, that the former president is not touching. You can probably guess what it is. That's next on NEW DAY.

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[06:21:12] CAMEROTA: All right. So a couple things happened on the Democratic side yesterday. Hillary Clinton brushing off Donald Trump while Bill Clinton made his first appearance selling Hillary Clinton's softer side to voters.

Let's talk about all of this with Errol Louis. We want to bring him back, as well as Jeff Zeleny of CNN.

Guys, let's talk about -- Errol, I'm going to start with you. How did Bill Clinton's first campaign appearance go?

LOUIS: He was somewhat subdued. I think some of that is he is -- you know, he's a grandfather now. He's getting a little older. On the other hand, I think he's being careful to not outshine Hillary Clinton. If he'd gone and given us the full Bill Clinton, it makes you wonder. It's like, well, maybe this should be the candidate, and not -- and not Hillary. So that was clear.

I think he, you know, obviously sidestepped some of the Trump stuff, because that -- it's not in his interest to go anywhere near that. It can only cause problems, become a distraction, and take them off their game. So Bill Clinton, you know, sort of following orders, sticking to his talking points. Probably a little reluctantly. I know he likes to sort of campaign a little more vigorously. But I think that's what we're going to see, at least in the short term.

CUOMO: And what do we think the strategy is? You're out there with them, Jeff. What do you think in terms of what are you being told about what President Clinton should mean in this campaign, what he won't mean? What are we being given?

ZELENY: Well, Chris, it's really two for the price of one, at least in terms of campaigning. But not necessarily any more than that. Not necessarily from the governing aspect here.

Look, I mean, frankly, the two of them out on the road, out meeting voters can do twice as much work as one of them. So Bill Clinton has been sort of waiting in the wings. It doesn't look like he's been involved in the campaign much in 2015. But that is wrong. Behind the scenes he has been intimately involved with so much of this. He has been chomping at the bit to get out there. So he is going to be campaigning a little bit more, but not so aggressively, as Errol said. He can't overshadow her or outshine her.

But what voters love when they see Bill Clinton is they remember sort of, you know, the strong economic time of the '90s. They remember sort of his policy positions. But it does open the Democrats and the Clintons specifically up to the criticism of their going backwards, not forwards. That's what all the Republicans tried to do yesterday.

But look, everyone at least in these Democratic audiences, loves to see Bill Clinton, because they remember how good things were under him. So I think overall, it's a plus, plus. Unless he gets drawn into some of these criticisms out there. And he was very, very careful yesterday to not do that.

CAMEROTA: Yes. He danced around it. But he did call this current election, quote, "scary" or at least "kind of scary." So let's listen to Bill Clinton in Nashua, New Hampshire, yesterday.

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B. CLINTON: Every presidential election people run and, believe it or not, it's kind of scary this year, but believe it or not, most everybody actually tries to do what they say they're beginning to do when they're running. They're telling you what they believe. And -- so you've got to take them seriously. But you also have to take seriously whether they have any chance of doing what they say they're going to do or any record of doing it.

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CAMEROTA: So first he was sort of being flippant, like it's kind of scary but then you have to take it seriously.

LOUIS: Well, yes absolutely. And this is -- look, this is classic politics; this is classic Clinton politics. Try and define your opponent. This is what he did to Bob Dole, by the way, back in 1996. You define them months in advance. You sort of get the phrases, you get the images, you get the issues sort of embedded in people's minds. By the time the candidate actually steps out and you're ready for the main event, people say, "I don't like that guy." And they don't even know why.

So he's trying to do that with the whole Republican Party. He's looking at the whole field and saying they're scary. They don't have experience. They're going to change your life. Right behind that you can almost hear them waiting to talk about Supreme Court court appointments and so forth. And he wants to get that locked in now, well before you get to something like Super Tuesday, let alone the November contest.

[06:25:10] CUOMO: The game has changed, though, my friend. Donald Trump has changed the tactical premise of how politics is fought right now in terms of defining people.

CAMEROTA: The messaging.

CUOMO: I mean, he's just really, really good at it. You know, that doesn't mean -- whether you like what he says or not, he's good at it.

Let me ask you this, though, Jeff. Is perhaps the best defense to what Donald Trump seemed to try to introduce as a new salvo about Bill Clinton and about character and past what Hillary Clinton said about her New Year's resolution? Have we played it enough or do you want to hear it again?

CAMEROTA: Let's hear it.

CUOMO: All right.

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H. CLINTON: I've adopted a New Year's resolution. I'm going to let him live in his alternative reality, and I'm not going to respond.

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CUOMO: Now, Jeff, when not getting attacked by Republicans, often Democrats will come up to me and hit me over the head with the, you know, "Why do you give so much attention to Trump and no, she shouldn't engage. And stop asking her on your show if you just want to talk about Trump." The -- is this her best way of dealing with what happened yesterday?

ZELENY: Look, I mean, I think in this moment, she was asked by a voter specifically. And, look, I think we're going to see her responding to Donald Trump a lot. I mean, that is the basis for her sort of argument right now in the final stretches: "I am the only Democrat who can stop a Republican like Donald Trump or anyone else from winning the White House."

But I do think, you know, she's not going to get sort of in the back and forth. But it's an open question if any of these attacks from the other side are working and if they should respond to them. I mean, we've seen a litany, a string of Republicans who have sort of not figured out how to deal with Mr. Trump in this election cycle. And they've been falling by the wayside.

So we'll see if the Clinton approach here of not responding to him directly is the right one. But I think it's a bad idea at this point for the Clintons to sort of follow him down this path here. But we'll see -- the thing I'm watching for in the coming weeks and days is, is Bill Clinton going to be tempted to take the bait at some point? Because we know he really wants to respond to his old friend, Donald Trump. So that's what we're going to be watching for in the next month.

CAMEROTA: OK. Jeff, Errol, we'll be watching for that, as well. Thanks so much, guys.

LOUIS: Thank you.

CAMEROTA: Michaela.

PEREIRA: All right. Tension is building between the Saudi Arabia -- between Saudi Arabia and Iran this morning, triggering global fears of a regional war. How can that crisis be diffused? We're going to take a closer look ahead, right here on NEW DAY.

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