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ISIS Widow Charged In Death Of Kayla Mueller; Michigan Governor Declines To Testify On Flint Water Crisis; Voting Underway In New Hampshire Primary; Sanders Plus Three Republicans Get Early Boost In The Granite State; Rubio Momentum Stumbles After New Hampshire Debate; Hackers Publish Info On 20,000 FBI Employees; Will Young Women Support Sanders Or Clinton?; Gloria Steinem And Madeleine Albright Scold Women Voters. Aired 6:30-7a ET

Aired February 09, 2016 - 06:30   ET

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[06:31:29] MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: Get back to New Hampshire at the moment. But breaking overnight at least eight people are dead after two commuter trains collided head on in Germany, south of Munich. Officials believe up to hundred and 50 people have been injured. Now according to the train company, the impact left train carriages fused together and partly derailed. Right now it is unclear what exactly caused that crash.

The widow of a former ISIS leader charged by the U.S. Justice Department in the death of American aid worker Kayla Mueller. Umm Sayyaf was capture in the raid by U.S. forces in Syria last year and it's now being held in Iraq where she is expected to face trial. Justice officials allege that Sayyaf and her husband forcibly held Mueller for 17 months while she was sexually assaulted by ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.

Back to here at home Michigan Governor Rick Snyder declines to testify at congressional hearing on the Flint water contamination crisis tomorrow. Governor Snyder says, he cannot attend because he is delivering a budget presentation to the state, detailing his long-term plans to help the people of Flint. All of this comes with a state board approved a petition to recall Governor Snyder. The districts must collect nearly 800,000 signatures in order to get it on the ballot.

All right, so the polls are already open in a few New Hampshire towns. After the votes are counted tonight, who will stay in and who will drop out of the race? We're going to take a look at which candidates have the most to lose.

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[06:36:58] CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome back. This is "New Day". Voting is under way here in New Hampshire for the first in the nation's primary. And the race is on the Republican side really about number two. It's really wide open. And by that, you could have close to 40 percent of the electorate right now saying, I don't know. I don't know who I'm going to vote for. I don't even which party I'm going to vote for yet, so big variable.

Overnight, three towns cast their votes. One of those is Dixville notch. That's John Kasich and Bernie Sanders winning their respective parties.

Joining us from Dixvill Notch is CNN Politics Executive Editor Mr. Mark Preston, with me here in Manchester, the CNN Political Commentator and senior contributor for the Daily Caller Matt Lewis. Gentlemen, good to have you. Brother Preston, I start join with you out there on the Husting. When you look at today, a little bit of the intrigue early on was that no governor might get a ticket out of here. Now there is more a feeling of an expanded view. Tell us why. And then tell us who you still think is on the bubble.

MARK PRESTON, CNN POLITICS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR: Well, I'm going to tell you what Chris. It's no doubt after the debate performance that Marco Rubio put in Saturday evening the very bad debate performance. What his done his created an opening for the center lane which the governors are really trying to occupy, as is Marco Rubio.

Originally we're looking at three lanes in this presidential race. We had the conservative lane Ted Cruz. We had the Donald Trump which is the Donald lane. And then we have this lane in the middle, where the centres where moving towards Jeb Bush, John Kasich and Chris Christie.

Now, Marco Rubio who has been doing very well up to this point. Had a very strong finish of third in Iowa, seemed to be pulling ahead in that lane. However, after that performance it looks like there is an opening for these governors. And we thought maybe perhaps one Chris would come out of here. But it looks like two can come out of here. John Kasich is putting in a lot of work in as you said up here in Dixville Notch she got three entire votes to win this precinct up here.

But he's also been doing a lot of work and, you know, working the state and quite frankly his campaign is predicated on doing well here in New Hampshire. And of course Jeb Bush we saw some fire in his belly with you yesterday in that interview on New Day. He's also got money. So those are two you want to look at.

CUOMO: I like that your tone, Preston, reflects the salinity of the occasion up there. I like that, you know, you have tone of this very serious what's going on.

Stay with us for one second. Matt, OK so building off with mark was just telling us, who could still be on the bubble? Who are we not talking about? That always a good indication Carly Fiorina, Dr. Carson. Is there vulnerability there? What's the calculus?

MATT LEWIS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: So look, I think Donald Trumps wins pretty easily. I think that Carly Fiorina and Dr. Carson are actually nonfactors. I think that we have is there a jumble in second, third, forth spot.

[06:40:02] And it's unclear now. I think Mark is exactly right. Is Marco Rubio had this opportunity to comment a strong second, close out the "Establishment lane". Now it's not clear that's going to happen. I think John Kasich could have a very strong night. I think Jeb Bush could surprise people.

CUOMO: So how much of the surprise. What would be the highest expectation?

LEWIS: If he comes in second place. And, you know, here's the thing, I mean New Hampshire could have been a clarifying moment. This could have been a three-man race at the end of it all where you have Trump, Cruz and Rubio. Now I think it's much more likely, we see through a glass darkly. It's that we come out of this with four or five people still ...

CUOMO: But does Carson stay in, does Fiorina stay in?

LEWIS: Well look, if they stay in, it is for because they want to keep sort keep their name in the mix. But I think in terms of being viable, being relevant, they should get out.

CUOMO: So how far that we go with this analysis on Rubio though Mr. Preston because David Gregory sent me an interesting quote from Chris Christie where he said, "In New Hampshire the lights shine bright. And either you shine when there the big lights are on you or you melt." Is that a fair metaphor for examining what happened to Rubio here? And to David Gregory's point to Governor Christie. Is that the same test for him?

PRESTON: Right, well you know look. I think what we do in the Media is, we take these moments in time and we define people by them and think that definition is going to continue to last. But Marco Rubio will very likely get over this problem that he had up here in New Hampshire. He does have a lot of backing. He does have a lot of support. What he needs to do though is he needs to turn it campaign around and he needs to be more forceful.

Interestingly enough on the campaign trail yesterday, he would not back down from his criticism of Barack Obama. And he tried to turn it on the media. He tried to put it on us. But Marco Rubio was going down to South Carolina. And let's not forget Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush could face off on March 15th in the Florida primary. Now that would be an amazing epic battle, something we have been looking for over the past year. But to Matt's point as well, I think that when you look at someone like Chris Christie, he could surprise us. He could come out of here. But he needs money. He doesn't have as much money as the other candidates at this point.

CUOMO: No matter what happens here, Matt Lewis, does anybody really take away Rubio's position as the alternative to Cruz and Trump?

LEWIS: In the long run, probably not. But what that does is it ends up meaning that Donald Trump or Cruz wins. Because what needs to happen if you're Marco Rubio or if you're the "Establishment center lane" whatever we want to call it. You need to coalesce around somebody. I think Marco Rubio is the most talented person in that pack. I think he has the best chance to actually run a national election. But most likely now because of that bad debate, it is not going to be a clarifying moment. So it's just sort of we're going to go to South Carolina. It's going to be unclear who the guy is.

CUOMO: I mean, haven't even started talking about the issues for people in the center of the GOP, whether it's abortion, whether it's global warming. You know we're not even talking about those right now. We are staying on the right side of the party.

Matt Lewis, thank you very much. Appreciate it as always. Brother Preston, thank you for being out there in the heartland for us. Appreciate it.

Mark Preston up there when the places that have already voted after midnight. And you're going to want to stay with us all day and night. Nobody has this covered the way CNN can. The New Hampshire primary results, the first in the nation we'll start the tabulation at 4:00 p.m. eastern. Remember New Hampshire counts early. So you don't have to wait all night in all expectation to find out what happened.

Hillary Clinton definitely having trouble connecting with young women voters. We saw it in Iowa, we see it to New Hampshire and in general in polling. Why?

[06:43:44] What is it about Clinton that isn't making an immediate connection with this particular group of voters? Answers ahead.

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PEREIRA: Thirteen minutes ahead to the hour here. President Obama delivering his eight and final budget proposal today. The plan includes a $10 a barrel oil tax for infrastructure and transportation projects, along with money for cancer research and opioid abuse programs. But the Republican chairman of the House and Senate Budget Committees are refusing to even grant the usual hearings to the President's budget director.

Hackers making good on their promise to publish information on FBI employees. A tweet from an account called At.Govs claims details about some 20,000 workers are now posted online it comes a day after data on 10,000 workers from the Department of Homeland Security were supposedly shared. The Justice Department for it's part says it's investigating. A spokesman says there's no apparent sign that private information like social security numbers were exposed.

So Chris and Alisyn, we've been obsessing obviously for weeks about who's climbing in the polls for weeks. But I got to show you something. A little panda bear climbing in the tree that is stealing my heart and I know America's heart except for Chris.

This is Bei Bei climbing a tree for the first time at Smithsonian National Zoo. Mama's standing by, oh, yeah, she's got him. Keep in close guard on her little one. At one point baby get stuck and mom has to jump into the action and kind of give a boost there. But look at him, go. I thought you would appreciate that Alisyn because you...

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: Oh my gosh, Michaela...

(CROSSTALK) PEREIRA: And a share a love a panda.

CAMEROTA: Yes. That's right because we recognized that they're just giant stuffed animals zaps to life.

PEREIRA: We know they're from nature.

CAMEROTA: Where as Chris sees them as ferocious.

PEREIRA: Exactly.

CUOMO: What they're not showing is you is that further up that tree is a scared zoo keeper who is about to be mangled and eaten by wild animals hundreds of pounds a piece.

PEREIRA: In your nightmares.

CAMEROTA: I'm sorry Michaela. I can't do anything abut this.

PEREIRA: I know, even for New Hampshire we can't do it.

CAMEROTA: That was adorable.

CUMUO: Eat your face hashtag.

CAMEROTA: Thank you Michaela.

PEREIRA: You're welcome.

CAMEROTA: That is the best video of the day.

[06:49:40] All right, Hillary Clinton bringing out some big names to help her connect with young women. But did it back fire? Our panel of young female voters here to discuss it next.

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[06:63:27] CAMEROTA: It's a big name Clinton supporters getting in some hot water for comments about young women, one of them former secretary of state Madeleine Albright.

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MADELEINE ALBRIGHT, FMR. SECRETARY OF STATE: And a lot of you younger women don't think you have to -- this been done. It's not done. And you have to help. Hillary Clinton will always be there for you. And just remember there is a special place in hell for women who don't help each other.

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CAMEROTA: Well, those comments rubbing some young women the wrong way. So let's talk about it with our group of young women voters. We have Crystal Paradis, she's a Hillary Clinton supporter. We have Gabriellie Greaves, she's a Bernie Sanders supporter. And Rebecca Rand is still undecided. Ladies, great to have you here with us this morning at Waterworks

Cafe.

Rebecca, before we get to what these some of the women have been saying for Hillary Clinton, you're still undecided? You have 12 hours left. But I know you have a bit of a loophole. So what is it?

REBECCA RAND, FRESHMAN AT SAINT ANSELM COLLEGE: Yes, so I am a student in Manchester, I go to Saint Anselm College. And this is my first time voting. And as a freshman, I am still very undecided. And I think I have an advantage because I am from Maine. And our primary is not until the sixth.

CAMEROTA: Aha, so you really don't have just 12 hours.

RAND: Yes. I only got few days, yes.

CAMEROTA: Because here in New Hampshire, you got -- you couldn't go back to Maine. Don't mind if -- which way are you leaning?

RAND: I think it's kind of exciting because everything is happening right here at New Hampshire, and it's all taking place at my school. So, I think, you know, maybe if I wanted to get out today and if I'd make up my mind by this afternoon then I'll get out there.

CAMEROTA: That's great.

RAND: Yeah.

[06:55:05] CAMEROTA: OK. So, Crystal, let's talk about some of the things you heard from Gloria Steinem and Madeline Albright. Were you offended when as you just heard the former secretary of state said there is a special place in hell for women who don't help women? How did you interpret that?

CRYSTAL PARADIS, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATION, VITAL: No. I wasn't offended. I think that for comments like these, we need to take them in context not only of the full conversation that they happened in but also, full context of these women's entire life history.

I saw Gloria Steinem, recently she came at Portsmouth. And she said -- one of the first thing said was that, she wasn't there because she was against Bernie Sanders. And that you don't have to be against someone just because you're for someone else. But I think that's here over all method.

CAMEROTA: Madeline Albright has been saying that for a long time, about there being a special place in hell. I remember this say for long time of what it used to meant early, how I used to interpret it when I was your age, that it meant that older women needed to help younger women. But now, in this election it means younger women like you all need to help the older women like Hillary Clinton who has tried to be a trailblazer. How do you interpret it, Gabrielle?

GABRIELIE GREAVES, BERNIE SANDERS SUPPORTER: I have opposing views from, you know, a few. And I think that it wasn't the right place to say it.

I do believe that women should help women, strong feminist and I do believe that. However, I don't think it was the time to say that. I think women should make up their own minds whether they want to support Hillary Clinton. As I said before, I think it should be about her principles, and her morals, and her values and what she can bring to the table as a president, as opposed to her being woman.

And so there is a special place in hell for women who don't support other women, but that wasn't the time to say that.

CAMEROTA: I'm sure you've all seen the numbers. Many more young women are leaning towards Bernie Sanders than Hillary Clinton. Let me just pull up this up. This is the latest WMUR/CNN Poll. And look at these margins. 87 percent of women in your age group 18-34 years old are leaning towards Sanders. Whereas nine percent towards Hillary Clinton.

Rebecca, do you have a sense why young women are more enthusiastic about Bernie Sanders?

RAND: I think it all goes back to like the "girls chase boys" kind of things. I think a lot of females see men as being powerful because in our country, that has been a thing over the past years. And I think unfortunately like that. So that's the way it is. And I think ...

CAMEROTA: So you do see sexism here?

RAND: I do, yes. Yeah.

CAMEROTA: And you think that there's (inaudible) play that women are -- see men as more authoritative.

RAND: Yes, I believe so. And I -- not necessarily I agree with it. I just think that's the way it is in our country. And I think that there's lot at stake going having more men -- more men are going for Bernie, therefore women are following him, or following them.

CAMEROTA: But who are you -- I'm sorry. Crystal, you support Hillary.

PARADIS: Oh yeah.

CAMEROTA: You support Hillary. So what do those women not understand?

PARADIS: Well I think if you're looking at the age demographics, Secretary Clinton is leading a lot more with people over 35. And I don't see people saying, why is Bernie not resonating with older men? But she is held to the standard.

CAMEROTA: But don't you think it is a phenomenon that more young people are more interested in a 74-year-old man?

PARADIS: You know, that's not something that is my view. I don't know why they are. But I think there's a difference between supporting a candidate just because of their gender and supporting a candidate because of their track records and passion for supporting people who don't have a voice, like she has done gender issues like women's rights, girls' access to education, reproductive health care. Those are issues that I feel really strongly about and she supports those. So, it is not her gender but what she has done to give us a voice.

CAMEROTA: Gabriellie what do you think of that theory that Rebecca just tell that still young women see men as more authoritative.

GREAVES: I disagree, I do think that is the problem in society where men are viewed as more authoritative, bu I don't think that that plays a role primarily in why Bernie Sanders has the majority of a young woman's vote.

I think women have ability to make up their own minds and be independent and decide for their own. I don't think it has anything to do with male. But I also think that's viewing everything do heterosexual point of view because where all the boys are that's where all the girls are going to flock. And I don't think that's not giving women enough credit to think for themselves.

CAMEROTA: Well, it's great to see all of you so engaged and that you're with us early morning, Waterworks Cafe. It's going to be a fascinating day. Thank you so much panel, great to talk all of you.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you.

CAMEROTA: We're following a lot of news this morning, so let's get right to it.

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DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Jeb Bush is having some kind of breakdown, I think. And you know, look, he is an embarrassment to his family.

JEB BUSH, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm defending the honor of people that I really respect. I'm a joyful warrior.

TRUMP: She said he's [bleep] that's parrot.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Marco had a tough night. There's no doubt about that.

GOV. CHRIS CHRISTIE, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: There's a big difference between me and Marco Rubio, between my experience and his. I'm ready for the job, Senator Rubio is not.

SEN. MARCO RUBIO, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: There is a reason why they attack me more than anyone else.

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS, (D) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It's not just who wins, but whether the people of New Hampshire are prepared to lead this country.

[07:00:08] SEN. HILLARY CLINTON: I hope I can close the deal, between now and the time the poll is closed.