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Multiple Shooters Opened Fire in Pennsylvania; Clinton and Sanders Face Off in Miami Debate; Voters Angry at Economy; Texans Sign Brock Osweiler; GOP Debate Tonight. Aired 6:30-7a ET

Aired March 10, 2016 - 06:30   ET

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[06:31:18] MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: Half past the hour. We're following breaking news from Pennsylvania. The search is on for multiple shooters who opened fire at a backyard party. They killed at least five people outside of Pittsburgh. Police say four women and a man were fatally shot overnight; three others remain hospitalized. It is unclear what set off the shooting. Authorities say ballistics indicate there were at least two shooters.

At least two are dead after heavy flooding slams the Southeast. A driver in Louisiana died after his car slid off into the road, plunging into raging floodwaters. A flood emergency has been declared in sixteen parishes. At least 14 inches of rain fell in some areas, forcing over 100 roads to close. One man was also killed in Texas after his kayak capsized.

U.S. forces taking out an ISIS-controlled chemical weapons plant in Northern Iraq using the information from an ISIS operative captured some three weeks ago. U.S. officials tell CNN ISIS was using this facility to produce mustard gas. The operative is considered a key leader in ISIS chemical weapons program. More strikes could follow.

Democrats in Florida are breaking out their score cards. Who won last night's debate? What were the deciding factors? You're going to hear from voters, next.

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[06:36:35] ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: Wide-ranging questions for Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders at last night's Democratic debate. Who do Florida voters think did best there? Joining us now is Cynthia Hernandez, she's a Bernie Sanders supporter; Gail Paris is a Hillary Clinton supporter, and Richard Lamondin is still undecided even at this late date.

Great to have all of you with us. Gail, I want to start with you and let's talk about Hillary Clinton. She -- you said -- oh, she said something interesting last night that I never heard her say before. It was a different explanation for why people, voters, some voters think that she is not trustworthy and honest. She basically said I'm not as good politician as my husband. So let's listen to this moment and I want to get your take.

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HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I am not a natural politician, in case you haven't noticed, like my husband or President Obama. So I have a view that I just have to do the best I can, get the results I can, make a difference in peoples' lives, and hope that people see that I'm fighting for them and that I can improve conditions economically and in other ways that will benefit them and their families.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you. Thank you.

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CAMEROTA: Gail, what did you think about that response?

GAIL PARIS, HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTER : I thought it was great that she actually said that. And I think people have to consider that -- I remember when Bush was running, they said, oh well, he is a kind of guy that you can have a beer with. I don't need to have a beer with my presidential nominee. I need to trust them and know that they are ready to do the job day one and that they step in, and that they have thought through about what they are going to do on various issues and they have a real plan. So she's not the most likeable, she doesn't give out a lot of slogans that people easily digest and relate to.

CAMEROTA: And you are OK with that?

PARIS: Yes, I'm great with it. I want to know that she's going to do the job.

CAMEROTA: Cynthia, let me talk to you about Bernie Sanders, because you support him. Immigration came up in a big way last night. And last night both Hillary and Bernie said that they would not deport the children of undocumented or illegal immigrants here. But Bernie Sanders drew a distinction so let me play that for you.

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SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-VT), DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Children fled that part of the world to try, try, try, maybe to meet up with their family members in this country, taking a route that was horrific, trying to start a new life. Secretary Clinton did not support those children coming into this country; I did. Now I happen to agree on President Obama on many, many issues. I think he has done a great job as President of the United States. He is wrong on the issue of deportation. I disagree with him on that.

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CAMEROTA: OK, he's basically say Hillary has not always been consistent on this, though last night she did say she that was supportive of these children. What do you think of that response?

CYNTHIA HERNANDEZ, BERNIE SANDERS SUPPORTER: Well, I think you know, as Hillary often does, she flip-flops on this issue. She is here in Miami, Miami is a heavily immigrant community. And, you know, immigration is important to me because I was once an undocumented immigrant. I have friends that have come across the borders, children who have fled, and --

CAMEROTA: Did you come as a child?

HERNANDEZ: I did. I did. And for the idea of sending those children back to these dangerous countries, it's just unthinkable.

[06:40:05] You know, she is flip-flopping again on this issue, and she has yet to produce an immigration plan.

CAMEROTA: Richard, you're still undecided?

RICHARD LAMONDIN, UNDECIDED VOTER: I am still undecided.

CAMEROTA: Did you hear anything last night that swayed you one way or the other?

LAMONDIN: I can't say anything that swayed me the whole way. When people ask me why I am undecided, it's because I'm sort of torn between my head and heart, you know. Hillary Clinton, shehas my head, but Bernie Sanders, he's addressed a lot of issues that I think especially people in my generation really value, so he has my heart. So it kind of comes down to which one I go with on election day.

CAMEROTA: So which way are you leaning? Or what you have heard that has given you some fodder for how you're going to make your decision?

LAMONDIN: Well, sort of what like Gail said before, what I admire about Hillary Clinton is that I think she does have the ability to get the job done on day one. She kind of comes across more as a technocrat, and I don't think that's a mistake. At the same time, you know, my girlfriend actually just went to the Bernie rally and she kind of really personifies kind of what people feel, which is when you go there, you sort of feel the energy that you maybe felt in 2008 with Barack Obama.

CAMEROTA: Maybe she will sway you?

LAMONDIN: Maybe she will. It's been a fun debate in my house either way, you know.

CAMEROTA: Yes, what's it been like to be in Florida during all of this? I mean, are you just deluged every day with ads and campaigns?

PARIS: It's definitely exciting times.

CAMEROTA: And attack ads?

PARIS: Yes, pretty much.

CAMEROTA: Well, everybody -- the eyes of the nation are on all of you and how you are going to decide come Tuesday. So thanks so much for being with us and giving us a little preview of how you're all feeling.

LAMONDIN: Thanks for having us.

CAMEROTA: Great to talk to you.

PARIS: Thank you.

CAMEROTA: All right, a tale of two economies. Voters and economists don't always see things the same way, as we know, so we'll look at how candidates are using that to their political advantage. That's next.

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[06:45:47] PEREIRA: All right, CNN Money now time. Chief business correspondent Christine Romans in the Money Center. So voters, we know they're angry; they blame the economy.

CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CHIEF BUSINESS CORRESPONDNET: They do, and Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump are winning with voters who feel this economy is not working for them.

Here are the four factors feeding into the economic populism, Michaela.

First, household income back to 1995 levels. American families haven't essentially had a raise. Second, fewer opportunities for Americans without college degrees. They are left behind. There are fewer manufacturing jobs and the manufacturing jobs left require higher skills. Third, white men face more competition at work. Their participation in the job market have declined now a sixth decade. Finally, inequality is worsening. The top ten percent of income earners in America took half the income made in the United States in 2014.

But economists are rating the U.S. economy a B+, a B, a B+. Home prices are rising, unemployment is low, gas prices are down 25 percent from last year. But voters tell us again and again in these exit polls, Michaela, they do not feel it. That's what is driving so much of energy in the Trump campaign and over on the Sanders side. Michaela?

PEREIRA: And it's got to get paid attention to. It really does. Thanks so much, Christine.

We move on now to sports where there some big moves happening yesterday during the first NFL's first day of free agency. Coy Wire's with us. He's got this morning's Bleacher Report.

COY WIRE, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Hi Michaela. One of the biggest shockers of the day had to be quarterback Brock Osweiler not re- signing with the Denver Broncos, the defending Super Bowl champs, but he signed with Texas instead. Osweiler was offered big money by Denver after Peyton Manning retired this week, but not as much as the Texans. A reported $72 million over four years. He had been Peyton's back up for 3 1/2 years and was solid when he did start for Denver, but now the Super Bowl champs are without a starting QB. Look for them to go after Ryan Fitzpatrick, the long-time vet from the Jets and has the same agent as Osweiler, interesting.

All right, to the NBA where the human highlight reel Steph Curry, oh man, check this out. Half-court buzzer beater. I mean, who is this guy? He makes these trick shots look like typical shots. This is a victory over the Jazz for the Warriors, 115-94. Check his sprint into the locker room there. I mean, this guy is unbelievable. The Warriors now 57-6 on the season. Michaela.

PEREIRA: That is incredible. Watching that guy play is magic, Coy. That shot and he just ran to the locker room. It's fantastic; I love it. All right, talk to you soon.

So we know tonight's CNN debate is the last chance for Donald Trump's GOP rivals to get after him on a national stage before next Tuesday's big contest. How will anything they do stick? We'll look at that ahead.

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[06:52:53] CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Big, big night for the GOP. Donald Trump looking to solidify frontrunner status at tonight's CNN debate. Millions of dollars in attack ads are airing here in Florida and in Ohio. The question -- can Trump withstand his biggest test yet and emerge victorious?

Let us discuss. We got Kayleigh McEnany, CNN political commentator and a Trump supporter; and Kevin Madden, CNN political commentator and Republican strategist. Shall we have a little taste, my friend, of some of the ads that are out there? Control room, would you please play a sample of what's being offered by the PACs?

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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I went to an Ivy League school. I'm very highly educated. I know words, I have the best words.

This here (EXPLETIVE DELETED). He gets the nomination, they're going to sue his (EXPLETIVE DELETED).

She said he's a (EXPLETIVE DELETED). I don't give a (EXPLETIVE DELETED).

We'll beat the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) out of them.

They're ripping the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) out of the sea (ph).

What the hell are we doing?

You're not going to raise that (EXPLETIVE DELETED) price.

I have the best words, and you can tell them to go (EXPLETIVE DELETED) themselves.

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CUOMO: So let's say why this is a good ad and then we'll say why it is a bad ad? Kevin, take the --

KEVIN MADDEN, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: It's a very effective ad because what people expect of their president is not consistent with what you heard from Donald Trump. The problem that I think for any other candidate, that ad is very effective and would have an impact on the race. I think the problem is that these ads came way too late. Donald Trump had spent probably six months, you know, shaping people's perceptions about him as a strong, tough leader with a great deal of clarity on what he was going to do. And that had a much bigger impact on the perceptions of voters than an ad that is running five months too late. And in many ways that probably reinforces what they like about Donald Trump.

CUOMO: Now that's -- that second point I think is where you're going to have a resonance issue. The interesting thing is, Kayleigh McEnany, she's a Trump supporter. We don't have anybody on the show who uses language like that less than you ever would, and yet you support Trump.

[06:55:01] So how do you bridge this divide between what you find acceptable in your own behavior, let alone in a president's, and supporting Trump when you hear language like that?

KAYLEIGH MCENANY, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Look, I don't like the profanity. In fact, I hear many Trump supporters say I can do without the profanity. It's not how I speak in my personal life. It's not something that I like to see. That's why when you look at the polls, the exit polls for Donald Trump, he wins virtually every category except "shares my values".

But here's the thing -- people aren't necessarily looking for a president who shares their values; they want someone who will fight with their values. And I think Donald Trump does share my values. I believe he's a Christian man.

CUOMO: Fight for their values?

MCENANY: Yes, but we believe that we need a fighter at this point in the presidency in that role, and we will take and accept the rhetoric if that means that there's someone there who will fight for what we belive in.

MADDEN: Just real quick, this was, as a political observer of voters, this is the one thing that I found fascinating about Donald Trump was his ability of his supporters to either rationalize or compartmentalize what they don't like with what they do. And that is I think a really powerful thing right now that's driving a lot of his momentum. Ads right now are not having an impact on people's perceptions as they go to the polls.

CUOMO: Well, it's also a reflection of how you guys feel about everybody else. You know, the idea that the language is offensive means that you believe in a certain dignity of this process, which people don't right now. When they look at the rest of the politicians, they say oh I don't believe you either. At least I know where this guy is coming from. That's what you mean when you say authentic.

MCENANY: Absolutely.

CUOMO: You don't like what comes out of his mouth but at least you know what's coming out of his head?

MCENANY: Yes, because forever we've had politicians who poll-test their speeches, who have focus groups and test certain words and say those buzzwords over and over. Think of Rubio thinking "con man, con man, con man". Clearly that tested well or he thought that that was an effective thing to say.

With Donald Trump, you get the sense this man talks at his dinner table the same way he talks on the campaign trail. We can believe him, we can believe what he's saying because he's not testing what he says.

CUOMO: What about the inconsistencies? How come they don't bother you? Anderson gave one of -- really, a number of samples, recent and past, of him struggling to stay consistent on something. I would do torture and I would waterboard and worse. What does that mean? It could only mean torture. You're in law school right now. You know that's a continuum of thought. Well, no, it's OK, I'll be within the law. But I'm going to change the law. You're going to change the Geneva Convention? No, you're not going to change it. Well, I'll work with the generals. No, you don't work with the generals. That's not how it works.

And yet it's OK, why?

MCENANY: Because here's the thing. I think we know that Donald Trump has a core set of beliefs, for instance, building the wall. That is a core belief that he wants to do. Nevertheless he's willing to change his position on the margin. So H1-B visas, he says, you know what, I thought about it, yes, I'm going to change my position on that because I think we need more H1-B visas. He's not changing his core principles; he's changing things on the margins. And I think people like that; they see someone who's willing to say, yes, I was wrong about this, Now I'm right about this and I'm willing to say that I changed my views.

CUOMO: Kevin Madden runs races for a living. If he had an opponent with any other race, where the man or woman, said we have to go after the families of terrorists. And then when asked about it, I said well I didn't mean kill them. I meant pursue them. He would crush me with it. It doesn't work here.

MADDEN: Because I actually disagree Kayleigh on the idea that people think Donald Trump has a core set of beliefs. I think Donald Trump, his appeal and I think what he continues to use as almost his core campaign strategy, is that he's a political amorphous, that he is whatever you need him to be when you need him to be it at this moment. And so it's much more about whether or not he's driving this idea that he's strong and he can be clear on some of the issues that worry people, whether it's the economy or national security. And that's his core appeal. And I think the big mistake was that, you know, you talked about how I would run a campaign is the problem is none of the other campaigns decided to take that line of attack early, very early on.

CUOMO: OK, let me ask you this, because this is -- we got a little bit of time left. Tonight, what's the tone tonight?

MCENANY: I really want to see Donald Trump attack Ted Cruz substantively. That means he could say, look, this is someone who can't work with his colleagues. This is someone -- how is he going to --

CUOMO: But no cheap shots? You want to see him --

MCENANY: No cheap shots.

CUOMO: -- pick up the tone?

MCENANY: Absolutely.

CUOMO: Who has to do what?

MADDEN: Well, I think -- I think Donald Trump is going to continue to do what he did in some -- parts of that interview with Anderson Cooper, which is try to be more of a unifier and try to be more presidential.

But, look, they -- the Cruz campaigns and Rubio campaigns have to continue to go at Donald Trump on what his -- what the problem he would present for if he were the major party nominee. How it would potentially be a destructive force for the party. The question is whether or not that's the guiding principle that people are considering when they go to the polls in places like Florida and Ohio on the 15th.

CUOMO: The guess is that tonight the story of this debate is going to be about tone and approach, so we're going to have to see how it plays out, because that's certainly the basis of comparison right now. Kevin, Kayleigh, thank you very much.

This is a big night. We've the news coming into the debate. We have developments in the election and around the world, so let's get right to it.

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CLINTON: I'm not even answering that question.

TRUMP: If you knock them out, nothing can happen.

SEN. MARCO RUBIO (R-FL), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: You heard it from me, they are lying to you.

GOV. JOHN KASICH (R-OH), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I think people are beginning to hear me.

[07:00:02] SANDERS: The secretary's words to Wall Street has really intimidated them.

CLINTON: He's talking about a very tall wall.

TRUMP: We're going to have a very, very big and powerful wall.

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