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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Get 'em out of here!

[05:58:28] GOV. JOHN KASICH (R-OH), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: There is no place for a national leader to prey on the fears of people.

SEN. TED CRUZ (R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: You have a presidential candidate telling his supporters, "Punch that guy in the face."

TRUMP: Knock the crap out of him, would you?

SEN. MARCO RUBIO (R-FL), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Donald Trump on a regular basis, incites his crowds.

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (D-VT), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Nobody is talking about building a wall around the United States. I beg your pardon, there is one guy who is talking about building a wall.

HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The Republicans have been after me for 25 years.

SANDERS: The only way we really transform this country is when people stand up and fight back.

ARWA DAMON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Ankara has been in a state of heightened alert for quite some time. This underscores just how vulnerable Turkey is.

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ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo, Alisyn Camerota and Michaela Pereira.

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to your NEW DAY. It is Monday, March 14, 6 a.m. in the east. Chris and Michaela are off this morning. John Berman joins me. Great to have you here, John.

All right. Up first, violence at Donald Trump's rallies taking center stage ahead of Tuesday's crucial primaries. Trump under fire now from Republican and Democratic rivals after several incidents this weekend. A defiant Trump rejecting any responsibility. JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: Democratic hopefuls Hillary Clinton and

Bernie Sanders, they lit into Trump during a CNN town hall in Ohio. Clinton accused him of political arson. Bernie Sanders called him a pathological liar, and all this as voters prepare to head to the polls in five states, including critical winner-take-all primaries for the Republicans in Florida and Ohio. I've got to say: This could entirely reshape the race within the next 24 hours.

We have complete coverage. We want to go first to CNN's Jason Carroll in Tampa, Florida. Good morning, Jason.

JASON CARROLL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: And good morning, John.

You know, there is a saying the state of Florida, one which I'm sure you've heard of. The saying goes something like this: the further north you go in the state, the more south it gets.

Trump certainly hoping for a friendly, peaceful reception at his rally here in Tampa later on today, much like he saw when he was in places like South Carolina. As for what happened on Friday and over the weekend, he simply says, John, not his fault.

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TRUMP: We had some -- I would say -- let's be nice -- protesters.

CARROLL (voice-over): After a turbulent weekend on the trail, a defiant Donald Trump pointing fingers.

TRUMP: Send them back to Bernie! Hey, Bernie, get your people in line, Bernie!

CARROLL: The billionaire trying to shift the blame to Bernie Sanders.

TRUMP: A lot of them come from Bernie Sanders, whether he wants to say it or not. And if he says no, then he's lying.

CARROLL: But at Sunday night's CNN town hall, both Democratic candidates turned it around, calling out Trump for his incendiary statements.

SANDERS: He is saying, "If you go out and beat somebody up, that's OK. I'll pay the legal fees." That is an outrage.

CLINTON: He is the person who has, for months now, been not just inciting violence, but applauding violence.

CARROLL: The GOP front-runner canceling his event in Chicago Friday night after the rally erupted in chaos.

On Saturday, in Ohio, this man tried to rush the stage. The Secret Service quickly tackled the protester as Trump supporters cheered.

On Sunday...

TRUMP: Get them out of here!

CARROLL: ... more protesters crashed the party.

TRUMP: Get them out! Now!

CARROLL: With over 350 delegates on the line, in five states this Tuesday...

TRUMP: I'd like to punch him in the face, I'll tell you.

CARROLL: ... Trump is doubling down, claiming his heated words are not to blame for the violence, like this supporter sucker-punching a protester last week.

TRUMP: I don't accept responsibility. I do not condone violence in any shape. And I will tell you, from what I saw, the young man stuck his finger up in the air, and the other man sort of just had it.

CARROLL: Now the question is, John, will any of that unrest have any effect on Trump's momentum. A recent poll shows him leading here in the state of Florida, in Illinois, as well, trailing slightly behind Kasich in Ohio. But it should be noted that poll was taken before Friday -- John.

BERMAN: All right. Jason Carroll for us in Tampa this morning. Thanks so much, Jason.

Now the protester who rushed the stage at a Trump rally in Ohio Saturday, he is speaking out exclusively to CNN. Thomas DiMassimo says he was trying to send a message before he was tackled by the Secret Service.

CNN's Martin Savidge spoke with DiMassimo and joins us live now from Columbus. This is a lucky guy. You know, it's not a smart move to jump up on a stage with Secret Service protecting a candidate.

MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: No. And, you know, by all appearances, Tommy DiMassimo is clearly bright, articulate and, obviously, politically-involved young man.

But one of the things I wanted to find out was that what he did was different. He didn't just cause a ruckus. He went towards the stage. And I wanted to find him, and I wanted to find out just what would he have done, had he made it to the stage. I started out by finding out who he is.

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TOMMY DIMASSIMO, PROTESTER: I am a student. I am a concerned citizen. I'm a protester. That's about it.

SAVIDGE: Political zealot? Dangerous individual?

DIMASSIMO: Definitely not. I think the dangers that exist in our country exist between Donald Trump and his people, and whether or not I show up at a rally and try to do something, you see that there is violence. There's violence when people just stand there and hold a sign.

So the idea that they now feel like they're under attack is ironic and laughable, because they've been the ones who have been doing the actual attacking to other people.

I, in no way, harmed anyone, intended to harm anyone. I'm not a member of ISIS. I have no known ties to ISIS. I've never been out of the country. I only speak English.

SAVIDGE: Christian?

DIMASSIMO: Christian, yes. I was raised Southern Baptist, and I went to a Baptist church all the way, you know, till I went to college.

SAVIDGE: OK, so given that, what were you thinking?

DIMASSIMO: I was thinking that Donald Trump is a bully. And he is nothing more than that. He is somebody who is just saying a lot of bold things. He's making bold claims, but I can see right through that. And I can see that he's truly just a coward. And he's opportunistic, and he's willing to destroy this country for power for himself.

[06:05:21] SAVIDGE: Well, that's your motivation. But what were you thinking at that moment?

DIMASSIMO: I was...

SAVIDGE: Why did you do what you did?

DIMASSIMO: I was thinking that I could get up on stage and take his podium away from him and take his mic away from him and send a message to all people out in the country who wouldn't consider themselves racists, who wouldn't consider themselves approving of what type of violence Donald Trump is allowing at his rallies and send them a message that we can be strong. We can find our strength, and we can stand up against Donald Trump and against this new wave he's ushering in of truly just violent, white supremacist ideas.

SAVIDGE: Were you, if you had made it to that stage, were you going to attack him?

DIMASSIMO: No, not at all. There would have been no point. Donald Trump is 6'3." I'm 5'9" maybe, you know. He's a giant man, surrounded by thousands of followers, 12 Secret Service and a former Ohio state offensive lineman. And that would have accomplished nothing.

SAVIDGE: Can you see how people might have perceived that you...

DIMASSIMO: Of course. And I wasn't expecting there to be as much Secret Service as there was there that day. From what I had sort of seen, there hadn't been that much or hadn't been that much in a contained area, so I thought my chances of getting up on stage and getting to the podium would have been better.

But again, it was more important for me to show that there are people out there who aren't afraid of Donald Trump. He says scary things. He lets his people do scary things. He's threatened Mexico, Islam, you name it, and yet I'm unafraid. And if I can be unafraid enough to go take his podium away from him, then we all can be afraid [SIC] enough to not let this man walk into the White House.

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SAVIDGE: DiMassimo was charged with disturbing the peace and inciting a riot -- or inciting panic, I should say. He was questioned by the authorities, but he was eventually released on bail. He says since his name has been out there, he's received thousands of death threats on social media, as have his parents and family.

CAMEROTA: Oh, that's terrible, Martin. But so fascinating to hear his side of the story. So thank you for getting that and bringing that to us.

Let's discuss all of this with Maggie Haberman. She's a CNN political analyst and presidential campaign correspondent for "The New York Times." Errol Louis, a CNN political commentator and political anchor at Time Warner Cable News; and Ron Brownstein, CNN senior political analyst and senior editor of "The Atlantic." It's great to have all of you with us on this Monday.

RON BROWNSTEIN, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: Good morning.

CAMEROTA: Let's talk about the violence that's been going on at Donald Trump's rallies and really try to get to the bottom of it. This weekend Donald Trump said something about the victims of that violence that is demonstrably false. So let me play for you what he said on the Sunday shows.

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TRUMP: Nobody's been hurt at all. And as big as these rallies are, nobody's ever been hurt. We talk, and we try and be good. And I will tell you, some of the protesters are very rough, and they're bad dudes; and they swing, and they punch. And nobody ever talks about that in the media.

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CAMEROTA: Nobody's been hurt at all, he says. That is not true. In fact, we have a list of people who have been hurt. Let's put that up. On March 9, the most famous one was the guy who was sucker- punched or elbowed by that 78-year-old man. February 29, a "TIME" photographer who was slammed to the ground. On November 21, there was a protester who was punched, kicked, briefly choked. On October 23, there was a protester who was kicked. On October 14, protesters were shoved and spit on. There's also the case that's very high-profile of Michelle

Fields. She's the reporter for Breitbart who says that she was roughed up and manhandled. The Trump camp denies that.

People have been hurt. What's he talking about, Errol, that nobody has been hurt at his rallies?

ERROL LOUIS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, this is the Donald Trump, I think what we've come to expect, which is that he'll sort of deny responsibility. He's say things that are absolutely untrue, and you've completely refuted it. That won't change him one bit. That probably won't change many of his followers, as a matter of fact.

Donald Trump says it never happened. For a lot of people it never happened. There are also some officers who got roughed up along the way when some of this jostling goes on.

CAMEROTA: By protesters? Or in the melee?

BERMAN: It doesn't really matter by whom, right? It puts these officers, these Secret Service agents in a bad position, when there is this violence back and forth. There are people who are at risk, and we saw it Friday night in Chicago when we were...

CAMEROTA: But he says it's the protesters doing it. I mean, so that is a point...

BERMAN: The chicken and egg almost to an extent doesn't matter when Donald Trump says the types of things that he says, when he helps contribute to the environment.

Let me just say, you know, he blames Bernie Sanders protesters. Right? He put out a tweet over the weekend where he was saying that it was Bernie Sanders' protesters.

Let me read this out loud. "Bernie Sanders is lying when he says the disrupters aren't told to go to my event. Be careful, Bernie, or my supporters will go to yours."

[06:10:07] Again, where they Bernie Sanders supporters Friday night? You know, there were people there supportive of Bernie, but that doesn't matter when Donald Trump is threatening. That's an outright threat to go to a Sanders event and do, you know, God knows what.

MAGGIE HABERMAN, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: It's also something of a false equivalence to say that Trump and the protesters and his supporters are all standing on the same platform. They're not. Trump is the front-runner for the Republican nomination, and so when the front-runner is up there saying, "I'd like to punch that guy in the face," that was the famous one, for me, that really, I think, changed the tone in recent weeks.

At the end of February, heading in the Nevada caucuses, Trump was at one of his rallies. There were protests, and this is when the protests were starting to increase in number. And Trump claims this guy was throwing punches and yelling. He

always says this. There was no one there who has been quoted saying that they witnessed the protester doing that. But Trump says from the podium, "I'd like to punch that guy in the face. I've been doing this for 20 years. I've never heard someone say something like that who's a major political figure the way Trump is now.

And so to your point, there is clearly unhappiness on both sides of the political spectrum, but Trump is not the same as the people who are voting for him. You are supposed to be in a different category when you're a candidate.

CAMEROTA: And you're supposed to be a leader. And Ron, Trump has said, "I'd like to punch that guy in the face. That guy should be taken out on a stretcher. If you see somebody with a tomato, hey, man, whatever you have to do, you can do to them."

Will he tone down -- is there any indication he will tone down his rhetoric after this weekend?

BROWNSTEIN: No, in fact he continues to escalate. And as Maggie points out that I want to punch in the face was one marker. I think a significant escalation, both of the language, the violent language but also the racial coding in the language, was his remarks over the weekend about the 78-year-old who sucker-punched the African-American protester on the way out, when he said first that he was obviously someone who loves the country, and second that he would -- you know, was looking into paying the legal fees.

And look, I think this is why you see so much anxiety among leaders in the Republican Party about where this is going.

First, in the sense that Trump is someone who may say and do anything. But second, the risk that he will lastingly stamp the GOP as a party of white, racial backlash at a time when the country is enormously diversifying.

Let's not confused about what we're seeing in the pattern are white Trump supporters physically scuffling with predominantly African-American and Latino protesters. And that is, I think, something of kind of an image of the campaign. If there's one defining image of this campaign so far, it may be that attack on the way out of the Trump rally.

So you know, you have a lot of people in the Republican Party who are very nervous about what this means, not only for 2016, but as a longer-term image. By the way, the way he was talking about those questions from the immigrant son of an immigrant doctor at the town hall last night.

BERMAN: Nervous? Because he's winning. And the fact is he is winning. He has more delegates than any other candidate. If you look at the polls, heading into tomorrow, he's leading by 21 points in the latest poll in Florida, maybe close in Ohio. But he could very well emerge with the most delegates at stake tomorrow, Errol. So what incentive does he have to stop doing this, if it's working for him at the polls?

LOUIS: Well, I mean, one incentive is that, if you start to look ahead, and if he assumes, as he says almost every single day, that he's going to be the nominee, then you do have to start taking into account some of the things that Ron is pointing out, which is that you know, you've got a pretty unfriendly map for Republicans just to start with.

And you know, you can pull some Reagan Democrats here and there, but which states are going to actually be in play? What's the campaign going to look like when everyone is paying attention, when something like 120 million people are getting ready to go to the polls? I don't know if he's ready for that, but he should certainly be thinking about it or the people around him should be.

CAMEROTA: Panel, stick around, because we do want to talk to you all about what's going on, on the Democratic side, as well. Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders making their final pitch to voters last night at CNN's Democratic town hall in Ohio. The rivals pointing out key policy difference, but finding common ground on Donald Trump.

CNN's senior Washington correspondent Jeff Zeleny is live in Chicago, where Clinton is campaigning today. Good morning, Jeff.

JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Hey, good morning, Alisyn.

Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders were trying to show that each one of them would be the strongest roadblock to Donald Trump. But long before any of that would ever take place, they have to convince Democratic voters to support them, and this race is far from over.

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CLINTON: Whoever goes up against Donald Trump better be ready.

ZELENY (voice-over): Stopping the Republican front-runner, a critical topic for Democrats ahead of yet another Super Tuesday.

SANDERS: The way you beat Trump is to expose him. And he can be exposed at many, many levels.

ZELENY: Hillary Clinton touting her experience and resilience.

CLINTON: The Republicans have been after me for 25 years. And...

ZELENY: Keeping some of her battle plan against Trump under wraps for now.

CLINTON: I'm not going to spill the beans right now. But suffice it to say, there are many arguments that we can use against him.

I'm having foreign leaders ask if they can endorse me to stop Donald Trump. Some have done it publicly, actually. The Italian prime minister, for example.

JAKE TAPPER, CNN ANCHOR: How about the ones that have done it privately?

CLINTON: No, Jake. We're holding that in reserve, too.

ZELENY: Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders hitting his rival hard on trade, which he believes helped him pull off an upset last week in Michigan.

SANDERS: You are looking at a senator and a former congressman who opposed every one of these disastrous trade agreements, which have cost American workers millions of jobs. One of the very different, strong differences between Secretary Clinton and myself, she has supported almost all of those trade agreements.

ZELENY: And taking a dig at Trump along the way.

SANDERS: Everybody understands that trade is a positive thing. Nobody is talking about building a wall around the United States. Of course, we're going to trade. Oh, I beg your pardon, there is one guy who is talking about building a wall. Let me rephrase it. No rational person is talking about building a wall.

ZELENY: The most emotional moment of the night.

RICKY JACKSON, FALSELY IMPRISONED FOR 39 YEARS: Excuse me, I'm sorry.

ZELENY: On the death penalty, as Clinton was pressed by a man exonerated after nearly 40 years in prison for a murder he didn't commit.

JACKSON: I came perilously close to my own execution. How can you still take your stance on the death penalty?

CLINTON: This is such a profoundly difficult question. A very limited use of it in cases where there has been horrific, mass killings. That's really the exception that I still am struggling with, and it would only be in the federal system. But what happened to you was a travesty.

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JACKSON: Now both candidates are campaigning hard before those five key primaries tomorrow that will test the strength of Sanders' insurgency.

You can see how close the race is by the fact that Hillary Clinton is coming back to Chicago. She believes her native Illinois is the closest of those five states. One reason: Bernie Sanders has been trying to tie her to Rahm Emanuel, the mayor of this town who is so unpopular among African-American voters and others. So that is an interesting local dynamic that could affect her outcome here in Illinois.

CAMEROTA: Yes. Illinois will be very interesting to keep an eye on. Jess, thanks so much for that.

Be sure to stay with CNN for tomorrow's final Super Tuesday. We have some big coverage, of course, of the day's activities and the full results as they come in. That is all day tomorrow, right here on CNN.

BERMAN: Although I guarantee every Tuesday beyond that will be super in its own way. I don't want to limit the possibilities.

CAMEROTA: It's going to be fabulous.

BERMAN: Yes, absolutely.

More ahead on Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton and that CNN town hall. Some really important, emotional moments and creative ways of going after Donald Trump. Why so much focus on Donald Trump? We'll address that next.

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[06:22:03] BERMAN: All right, there was a CNN Democratic town hall last night in Ohio, Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders, but there was certainly a large presence on that stage by the name of Donald J. Trump. He was there very much, in some ways dominating the discussion.

I want to bring back Maggie Haberman, Errol Louis, also Ron Brownstein. And Maggie, I want to play this sound for you, because really, Donald Trump, the issues and the controversy over the violence has been overwhelming both sides of this race, and both Clinton and Sanders addressed it last night. Listen.

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SANDERS: I hate -- hate to say this, because I really don't like to disparage public officials, but Donald Trump is a pathological liar. Donald Trump is literally inciting violence with his supporters. He is saying, if you go out and beat somebody up, that's OK.

CLINTON: Donald Trump is responsible for what happens at his events. What Trump has done is like a case of political arson. You know, he has lit the fire, and then he throws his hands up.

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BERMAN: It's really remarkable to see, you know, a Republican not running against him right now, in some ways dominating the discussion.

HABERMAN: I think he's dominated the discussion throughout, frankly. I think lesser -- at some points less than we're seeing now in the Democratic primary.

But look, one of the things that was striking at last week's Democratic debate, both of them got asked, do you think Donald Trump's a racist, and both Sanders and Clinton sort of avoided the question. They answered, "Well, I think he says things that are un-American" or this or that or the other.

And I got the sense last night, especially on the heels of what happened in Chicago, that whether correct or not, they regret it. How they have handled that, and they decided to be more forceful of Trump. You saw collectively on both sides between Sanders and Clinton and then Kasich, Cruz and Rubio over the weekend, a sudden sort of drawing of the line and saying, you know, this is too much; this has gone too far.

What is striking, particularly on the Republican side -- it's not the same on the Democratic side -- these are people who have been fighting on stage with Donald Trump for many, many, many months, and you pointed to that graphic in a previous block, going back to October was the first incident where you had a protester who was spit on, kicked or punched or whatever, and you had Trump saying maybe that person deserved to get roughed up. So while the incidents have increased and his language has increased, it's not like it's suddenly come out of nowhere.

CAMEROTA: Yes, you make a good point. But somehow our consciousness has been raised, and violence is in another category. Now that it's tipped into violence, and there seems to be a series of it, now people are talking about it.

Ron, before we get to the Democrats' policies -- and we do want to do that -- they both made the case last night of why they are the better candidate to beat Donald Trump. Hillary Clinton claimed it's because she's been battle tested for 25 years, and there's nothing that he can throw at her that, you know, she can't handle. And Bernie Sanders said that he beats Trump more consistently in the polls. Are those -- are those good lines of argument?

BROWNSTEIN: Well, you know, frankly, Alisyn, I thought the answers were less important than the question. I mean, look at who the question came from. The same question was allowed to ask both candidates, and it was a doctor who described himself as the son of immigrants who is obviously very successful, who is the sort of voter who might have been open to Republican arguments on many fronts, but who said that he was afraid, his parents were afraid, and he now viewed it as his one mission in 2016 to stop Donald Trump from being president.

[06:25:16] And it was a reminder that when George Wallace ran in 1968, and those comparisons, you know, are increasingly coming, 7 percent of the electorate were voters of color. Now it's going to be 30 percent in 2016.

And I think you see, in that question, encapsulated why so many forward-looking Republicans are concerned about what Trump might mean to the party. Even if he can be competitive, which at the moment, he is not, but even if he could be competitive by maximizing his vote among whites, particularly working-class whites, what will be the long-term impact on the party for voters like that gentleman? Will they feel unwelcome in a Republican party that is willing to nominate someone who has said and done the things that Donald Trump has done in recent months?

BERMAN: Errol, were it not for Trump, there would be another "T- R" word that would be dominating the Democratic debate. To a certain extent it was a big part of the discussion last night, and that's trade.

Bernie Sanders sees serious possibilities to make in-roads against Hillary Clinton on the issue of trade. Hillary Clinton fighting back. Let's listen to a little exchange there on that issue.

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SANDERS: One of the very different, strong differences between Secretary Clinton and myself, she has supported almost all of those trade agreements. I have vigorously opposed it.

I will not only continue to oppose trade agreements like the TPP, which asks us to compete against people in Vietnam who make 65 cents an hour minimum wage, but what we're doing to do is develop an entirely different process in terms of trade.

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BERMAN: Now there's a lot of reason to think that one of the reasons Bernie Sanders pulled off his upset in Michigan was the trade issue. You have Ohio. You have Missouri. You have North Carolina. You have Illinois, where trade could play big, too.

LOUIS: Absolutely. And let's remember that, you know, when he wins in Michigan, which is where we think of as the place where they make the cars, they make all the parts in Ohio. I mean, this could really work to his benefit tomorrow. It's -- it is the understanding of a lot of people, a generation of people, frankly, that trade harmed them; trade harmed their industry; trade is bad. And so we can't go down that route.

It's way more complicated than that, of course. And Hillary Clinton is trying to make this more nuanced argument that, you know, you don't get a cheap iPhone unless you have sort of free trade. There's a flip side of this, in that the consumer dollars that end up in your pocket are things that have really helped boost the middle class.

She's making an argument that's not that popular with a certain segment. People have been waiting, I think, for a generation to get revenge on some of these free trade deals; and she -- they've now got the first lady of the president who signed those bills.

CAMEROTA: All right. So much more. Ron, do you have one last thought?

BROWNSTEIN: Real quick, yes. What -- it's striking, and it's worth noting, though, that in national polling, there is now more support for free trade on the Democratic side than the Republican side. And one thing we have not heard at all in this debate is that the

TPP, the Pacific trade deal and the trade from ocean authority was supported by the U.S. Conference of Mayors, which is dominated by Democratic mayors. Democrats are now overwhelmingly dependent on big cities.

And they support it, because exports have become such a critical part of the economic engine for all of the major metro areas. And the fact that you have Democratic mayors in all of these cities supporting the free trade agenda is something that has almost been completely obscured by this blue-collar debate in the Rust Belt.

CAMEROTA: All right. Much more to analyze. We'll be talking about that town hall all night -- all morning long. Panel, thank you so much for being here.

BERMAN: A lot of other news to talk about this morning. Carnage in the capital city of Turkey, dozens killed in a devastating car bomb. Who was behind this attack? We have new details, next.

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