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[08:00:00] CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: -- today. We believe the president will be in the Eastern Room of the Rose Garden. So let's goat CNN's Athena Jones live at White House with the breaking details. What more do we know?
ATHENA JONES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Chris. In that e-mail sent out last hour President Obama said in part "As president it is both my constitutional duty to nominate a justice and one of the most important decisions that I or any president will make."
He also says he devoted a considerable amount of time and deliberation to this pick. So in three hours we'll know who that pick is. But we do know already that the president has said he wanted a so-called a consensus candidate, someone who could get Republican support. And there are three appellate judges that we are told from several sources are at the top of the list of potential nominees, all of them received bipartisan support during their confirmations.
Let's got through them quickly. One is Sri Srinivasan. He's 49- years-old. He sits on the U.S. court of appeals for the District of Columbia. He was confirmed unanimously by the Senate in May of 2013. He was praised by Texas Senator Ted Cruz who called him a good friend. Cruz of course is on the Senate Judiciary Committee. Srinivasan was born in India, raised in Kansas, and would be the first Asian-American to serve if he's confirmed.
Merrick Garland is the chief judge on the D.C. circuit. He is 63- years-old. He was an appointee of President Clinton back in 1997, and he received praise from Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah during his confirmation process. Hatch is also on the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Last on the list of top contenders is Paul Watford. He's a judge on the Ninth Circuit out in California, 48-years-old, and he would be the third African-American to serve on the court if he is confirmed. So those are some of the names of the top people said to be finalists and we'll find out the real finalist in a few hours.
MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: We certainly will, and we'll get more analysis on this coming up on the show. Thanks, Athena. To our other big story of the morning, the race for the White House.
Donald Trump winning at least three more states, routing Marco Rubio in Florida, knocking him out of the race. John Kasich clinging to life with a big hometown win in Ohio.
And on the Democratic side Hillary Clinton slamming the brakes on Bernie Sanders' momentum. We're going to hear from Donald Trump in his own words in a few minutes, but we begin with John Berman on who won what and the latest delegate count. John?
JOHN BERMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Michaela, extra innings in the state of Missouri. Look at this, Donald Trump 1,700 votes ahead of Ted Cruz, but too close of a margin right now for us to give a projection on the race. They want to count the provisional ballots and the absentees. But better to be Donald Trump there ahead by 1,700.
So too, better to be Hillary Clinton ahead of Bernie Sanders by 1,500 votes. But again, they want to count the absentees and provisional, so we are not projecting a winner in that race just yet.
Let's look at the Republican race a little bit in depth right now. Ohio, John Kasich, his first win in this entire election season. He won his home state with 46 percent of the vote. Donald Trump finished second, but it is a winner-take-all state. John Kasich gets all 66 delegates there.
Florida, a different story. The hometown kid Marco Rubio crushed by Donald Trump, 45 percent of the vote for Donald Trump. Look at this. This is how bad it was for Marco Rubio. The only county he won in the entire state of Florida, Miami-Dade County. He lives there. If he didn't live there, he didn't win it. Marco Rubio suspending his campaign.
Other Republican races right now, Donald Trump wins North Carolina. Donald Trump wins Illinois. He'll get the lion's share of the delegates from that state. He is leading Ted Cruz by more than 200 delegates in the delegate race right now.
On the Democratic side, Hillary Clinton the big winner in Florida, also won Ohio. That one was a bit of a surprise, especially the margin there. Other races looking in the state here, where else we got. We've got no other races coming up. Also Illinois and North Carolina all for Hillary Clinton. Again, Missouri is close. This is the delegate race right now. Hillary Clinton leads Bernie Sanders. She has 1,500. He's got about 800. That does include super delegates. She still, though, has a 300 delegate lead even without the super delegates.
ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: You covered so many state you got lost in the math.
BERMAN: I had to wait for the states to appear to operate.
CAMEROTA: Nicely done. I'm going to lay some bread crumbs for you next hour. John, thank you, excellent job. Donald Trump with three wins, maybe a fourth, but a setback in Ohio, a state that he wanted badly. Did Governor John Kasich just survive? And will his momentum moving forward actually thrive? CNN's Sara Murray is live in Miami Beach with more. Hi, Sara.
SARA MURRAY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Alisyn. Donald Trump definitely proved last night as he has any election night before that he can win all across the country. But with John Kasich giving him a little bit of a hiccup, the question is, is this finally an opportunity for someone to stop Trump?
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DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We're going to win, win, win.
MURRAY: Donald Trump celebrating another big primary night.
TRUMP: I'm having a very nice time. But you know what, I'm working very hard, and there is great anger. Believe me, there is great anger.
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MURRAY: The Republican frontrunner racking up victories in three more states, bringing his total now to 18. The race between Trump and Ted Cruz so tight in Missouri that a winner hasn't yet been declared. Now Cruz is insisting the race is down to him and Trump.
[08:05:14] SEN. TED CRUZ, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Only two campaigns have a plausible path to the nomination.
MURRAY: But Ohio Governor John Kasich is still keeping hope alive, clinching his first win of the race in the winner-talk-all state of Ohio.
GOV. JOHN KASICH, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I have to thank the people of the great state of Ohio. I love you.
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MURRAY: And in Florida Trump putting a nail in the coffin of establishment darling Senator Marco Rubio.
TRUMP: I want to congratulate Marco Rubio on having run a really tough campaign. He's tough, he's smart, and he's got a great future.
MURRAY: Rubio ending his presidential ambitions after a bruising double digit loss to Trump in his home state.
SEN. MARCO RUBIO, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: While it is not god's plan that I be president in 2016 or maybe ever, and while today my campaign is suspended, the fact that I've even come this far is evidence of how special America truly is.
MURRAY: Now down to a three-man race, Trump continues to call for unity.
TRUMP: We have to bring our party together. We have to bring it together.
(APPLAUSE)
MURRAY: While Kasich and Cruz make a pitch to Rubio supporters, both pledging to take this fight all the way to the convention.
CARLSON: To those who supported Marco, who worked so hard, we welcome you with open arms.
KASICH: Thank you from the bottom of my heart. But I want you to know something. We are going to go all the way to Cleveland and secure the Republican nomination.
(APPLAUSE)
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MURRAY: Right now Ted Cruz is trailing in the delegate fight, but he's still in the hunt. As for John Kasich, though, he has this one win in Ohio. It is not clear where else he can win, but his campaign insists they are going ahead to Pennsylvania and they have a shot to make this competitive and at least head towards the convention. Back to you, Chris.
CUOMO: All right, Sara, thank you very much.
Let's flip over to the Democratic side where Hillary Clinton scored huge victories, major gains in the delegate count, slowing Bernie Sanders momentum. Senior Washington Correspondent Jeff Zeleny has more live from Chicago. Did I even get that right? Do you think that she slowed Bernie Sanders momentum? Or was it actually something more than that?
JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: I think it was more than that, Chris. Last night was a turning point in this Democratic race, no question about it. Yes, Bernie Sanders, is likely to go forward. Yes he's likely to win delegates in some states coming up that are favorable to him, Washington state and even New York and California. But the reality is setting in. You could hear it last night. You could see it, particularly in Hillary Clinton's speech last night in Florida.
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HILLARY CLINTON, (D) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We are moving closer to securing the Democratic Party nomination and winning this election in November.
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CLINTON: Because of all of you and our supporters across the country, our campaign has earned more votes than any other candidate, Democrat or Republican. (APPLAUSE)
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ZELENY: So the question of the day in Democratic circles is, is Bernie Sanders going to get out? The answer is almost certainly no. We asked Hillary Clinton that herself last week, if he should get out. And she said, look, I didn't get out in 2008. I don't expect him to get out now. But the reality here is setting in. It is mathematically becoming impossible for him to overtake her in delegates. And soon you will see this party shifting, turning ever so much to take on Donald Trump. That's just exactly where this is going, Michaela.
PEREIRA: All right, Jeff, thanks so much for that. So let's talk about what voters think when it comes to who will win head-to-head matchups in November. Christine is looking at the exit polling that we have. What do we see?
CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: So interesting, you guys. Landslides of course for Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. But when put head-to-head in a general election, a chunk of voters aren't so sure about that matchup.
Let's start in Ohio where we asked GOP voters leaving the poll, if Trump and Clinton were nominated, would you be satisfied? And 51 percent said yes, 44 percent said they would consider a third party candidate. In North Carolina similar results, 39 percent of GOP voters said they would consider a third party. Perhaps Trump has work to do in bringing the party together. That could be what this means.
But not in Florida. Voters seemed more settled with the Trump nomination. And 29 percent say they would consider a third party nominee in a Trump/Clinton match up, 62 percent would be satisfied there. For the Democrats, Clinton has consistent support from minority voters but has work to do with young people, older white men, independents. In Ohio, for example, 57 percent of white Democratic men voted for Bernie Sanders, same trend in North Carolina, 58 percent of white men picking Bernie Sanders. North Carolina, Ohio, Florida, all these places shaping up to be close races in November, at least that's what it looks like. Both candidates might have some work to do, guys.
[08:10:02] CUOMO: Christine Romans, thank you very much.
So we had Donald Trump on this morning. His new message is that he is a unifier. He believes that last night's victories show it and that winning will heal all. Take a listen to what he said.
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TRUMP: I don't think he has to get out. I think he has to stay in and I think he has to run. And John has to run. And, you know, we'll see what happens. We have a good chance of getting there before the convention. You know, with what we won yesterday, if you look at it, that was just about as good as if I won Ohio. And I did well in Ohio, but I was running against a popular governor and it is not easy because they have the machine working and I didn't have time. I ran out of time. I think if I had a day or two more it would have been perhaps a little bit different. But I congratulate John on that. I think he deserved it.
And, frankly, to be honest with you, I think we're doing very well. You know, with the bonuses that you get and with Illinois being a tremendous win. That was a very, very big win. That was far greater than we even thought. We get a lot of bonuses which I didn't even know about. And I think it was just about the equivalent as if I had a normal set of victories plus Ohio. It was pretty much -- we got about the number of delegates that we would have gotten the other way.
CUOMO: There is no question that people are watching. There is no question there is a lot of energy certainly on the GOP side when we see the voting. But there is pushback. Not only in your own party, but there is an idea that your divisiveness, what you are bringing out in terms of your anger of the country is also motivating the base on Hillary Clinton's side. She spoke to it last night and I want to get your reaction to what she said. Here is Hillary Clinton, and we can both safely say she's talking about you.
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CLINTON: When we hear a candidate for president call for rounding up 12 million immigrant, banning all Muslims from entering United States, when he embraces torture. That doesn't make him strong. It makes him wrong.
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CUOMO: Your response?
TRUMP: Well, I think she's an embarrassment to our country. She's under federal investigation. She doesn't have the strength or the stamina to be president, frankly, as far as I'm concerned. She doesn't have the strength. She doesn't have the stamina. She talks about defeat our enemies. But where has she been for the last year? We can't even beat ISIS. She's not defeating our enemies. She wouldn't know how to defeat the enemy.
CUOMO: So now you're heading into a convention. If you get to 1,237, or if you don't and you are close, you are going to be going to a convention. What is your plan to bring people together there and get many as you know who don't want you to get this nomination to change their minds?
TRUMP: Because I think there is a natural healing process. Once the battle is over, once the war is over, I think there is really a natural healing process. And I've gotten along with people all my life. This is actually a little bit unusual. I've gotten along very well with people and I think it will happen again. I believe it will.
If it doesn't, it doesn't. I'll go along the same path which has obviously been an effective path. I think we'll win before getting to the convention, but I can tell you if we didn't and if we're 20 votes or short and if we're 100 short and we're at 1,100 and somebody else is at 500 or 400 because we're way ahead of everybody, I don't think you can say that we don't get it automatically. I think you would have riots. I think you would have riots.
I'm representing a tremendous, many, many millions of people, in many cases first time voters. These are people who haven't voted because they never believed in the system. They didn't like candidates, et cetera, et cetera, that are 40 and 50 and 60 years old, and they've never voter before. Many of those people, many Democrats and many independents coming in. That is what the big story is really, Chris.
The really big story is how many people are voting in these primaries. The numbers are astronomical. Now, if you disenfranchise those people and you say, well, I'm sorry but you are a hundred votes short even though the next is 500 votes short, I think you would have problems like you would never see before. I think bad things would happen. I really do. I believe that. I wouldn't lead it, but I think bad things would happen.
CUOMO: Marco Rubio is out. You were uncharacteristically gracious about him last night given the history that you two have had recently. Would you consider him for a VP? People are saying inside the party that would go a long way towards healing a lot of concerns?
TRUMP: I just think it's too early to think about it, Chris.
CUOMO: But is he in consideration?
TRUMP: Well, I like him. I've always liked him. Then he got nasty two or three weeks ago, and then I got nastier than he did, I guess.
CUOMO: You can't be too upset at him. If you got nastier than he did you can't be too upset at him and you did say it is time for healing, so I'm just wondering, is he in consideration?
TRUMP: Well, I think he's a fine person. I'm looking at lots of people.
[08:15:01] But I'm not thinking about it yet. It's too early. I want to close the deal.
You know, I'm a closer. I get things closed. And I want to close the deal first I think, Chris, before I start -- I'll have this conversation at some point, but it's too early.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
CAMEROTA: All right. So, here to discuss the landscape this morning and the fight for the GOP nomination is Neil Bush. He is part of Ted Cruz's national finance team. He's also the brother of former President George W. Bush and former presidential candidate Jeb Bush. Mr. Bush, thanks for being here.
NEIL BUSH, TED CRUZ NATIONAL FINANCE TEAM: Thank you, Alisyn.
CAMEROTA: OK. Let's talk about what you just heard from Donald Trump, a couple of important things. Do you think Donald Trump is a uniter? Is that what last night proves?
BUSH: No. I don't think he's a uniter. In fact, I think he's the most flawed candidate the Republican Party could put up as its standard bearer. And I would worry very much about retaining control of the House of Representatives and I think we've got an opportunity to not only retain control but to actually move forward with the positive agenda of reform if we had a real leader that could unite our party in a Reaganesque kind of way. And Donald Trump is not the guy.
I'm not ready to go to the Donald Trump coronation at this point. The fat lady hasn't sung. There's still a lot of contests to be played out, out there. And the more this becomes a two man race, good for John Kasich for winning his first state of the election process.
CAMEROTA: Right.
BUSH: But he hasn't won anything up until now. Ted Cruz has won nine contests. He's not my first choice. I've made that clear in an op-ed and other statements that I've made.
But he's a clear principled conservative, that's one thing for sure, and he can beat Donald Trump one on one and he still has a pathway to win it outright. But he also has a path going in to the convention with more delegates so we can avoid what Donald Trump kind of already semi-threatened in the interview, which will be kind of protest, and he sends the signal to his people, you know, like he does in his rallies. We need to avoid that kind of chaos in national convention.
CAMEROTA: I don't want --
BUSH: There is an opportunity for uniting our party.
CAMEROTA: I want to ask you more about that, because as you did just hear Donald Trump say that he predicted there would be riots in the streets if he -- somehow the nomination were not given to him and the -- at the convention, it becomes a contested convention. And I want to play to you what Ted Cruz, the candidate that you're now supporting, said to John Berman about that very thing last night. So, listen to this.
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SEN. TED CRUZ (R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: There are many in Washington establishment who are right now having fevered dreams about a brokered convention, about a deadlocked convention where they parachute in an establishment candidate who suddenly saves all the fears of the lobbyists. I think that would be an absolute disaster. I think the people would quite rightly revolt. The way to beat Donald Trump is at the ballot box. That's what we've
been doing, beating him all over the country and the way to beat him is get to 1,237 delegates.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
CAMEROTA: OK. So, Mr. Bush, you've heard now. I mean, he's saying there would be a revolt if the convention goes one way. You heard Donald Trump just now saying that there would be riots if it goes another way.
What do you predict?
BUSH: Yes, yes.
Well, I'm hoping. I don't have a magic ball but I'm hoping that John Kasich after he loses in Utah coming up and after he loses in Wisconsin in his backyard sees that by staying in the race, that he's kind of standing in the way of a unified Republican Party that keeps Donald Trump from being the head of the ticket. We can't afford, you know, to lose this race. We are at a critical juncture in our country.
What this campaign really is all about is reforming Washington. It is about, you know, taking kind of -- hitting the perceived corruption and we're not going to put Donald Trump -- he's the ultimate insider. He's already bragged about giving campaign donations to politicians and expecting something in return. It is the ultimate insider game that Donald Trump has already admitted to.
So, you know, we need a candidate that can unify the party, work with Paul Ryan, move a reform minded agenda forward. And Ted Cruz is the only guy in the race to do that.
So, yes, I agree with both assessments. I agree that if Donald Trump walks into the convention he's a hundred short or whatever, and he's denied, there is going to be an outcry and he's going to promote it because he's already said so on your TV show.
And I agree with Ted Cruz that there's some brokered convention, you know, an open convention is going to be brokered if people sit in the back room. I don't think that happens nowadays.
But if there is some kind of an outside influence and they try to plant Kasich in or some guy that's way behind in the delegate count, there is going on the outrage.
So, yes, the best thing for the party is to unify around a candidate that can build the party, unify the party so that the congressional candidates don't run from the head of the ticket. I mean, can you imagine having Donald Trump as the head of the ticket?
CAMEROTA: But, Mr. Bush, I want to get to what we mentioned before and that is you are Jeb Bush's brother. Is Jeb Bush going to endorse Ted Cruz?
[08:20:01] BUSH: I don't speak for my -- either of my brothers or my mother and father. I'm an independent thinker.
You know, I think -- here is my deal. I commit this from my head not my heart. If you come at it from the heart, Ted Cruz has offended a lot of people, you know, that -- that I'm sure my brothers both know and have worked well with. And he's perceived by some to be kind of, you know, an arrogant guy, I guess.
But I like Ted. He's my senator here in Texas. He went to Washington to disrupt Washington. He's clearly been disruptive. Nobody seems to like him that much.
But the party will unify around him because instead of running as an outsider, he's going to be the president and he's going to help lead the Congress to making these critical reforms and building up our military readiness and -- you know, it is just night and day to me.
I'm not going to lock step and do the lockstep and do the old, you know, yes, I'm with Trump. I'm going to do the politically incorrect thing I guess. This is interesting that Trump claims to be the politically incorrect candidate. I'm going to politically incorrect thing and say that I'm not going to support Trump, period.
CAMEROTA: There you go.
Neil Bush, we appreciate your candor this morning on NEW DAY. Thanks so much for being here.
BUSH: Alisyn, can I make one last point?
CAMEROTA: Go ahead.
BUSH: There are 22 contests remaining. Of those 14 are closed primaries. Donald Trump has won 6 out of 16 closed primaries. Ted Cruz needs 80 or 82 percent I saw in your statistic earlier this morning, 82 percent delegates to win.
Can he win? Yes, he can win because in a one on one race in closed primaries where Donald Trump can't bring in a bunch of outsiders, you know, to vote for him he will win. He can win with enough delegates go win the majority, but he can with enough delegates to win the nomination outright.
And that's the -- we want to use his convention to unify to have a positive party message to position -- to help our congressional candidates but also to beat Hillary Clinton.
So, Alisyn, thank you very much for giving me a chance to share my views.
CAMEROTA: Well, we appreciate hearing your vision for the path forward. So thanks so much, MR. Bush, for being here. Nice to see you.
Let's get over to Michaela.
PEREIRA: All right. While the Clinton campaign enjoyed a bounce back big time last night, is it the right time to pivot to the general election? We'll put that question to a Clinton campaign official next here on NEW DAY.
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[08:26:22] CUOMO: Hillary Clinton winning big on Super Tuesday Part Three, especially last night. She clinched four of five races.
We don't know what happened in Missouri yet, too close to call. She's certainly in it and ahead right now. But again CNN is not calling that until we get the full count.
Let's discuss the impact and what it means going forward.
Senior spokesperson for Hillary Clinton's campaign Karen Finney.
Good morning, Finney.
KAREN FINNEY, SENIOR SPOKESPERSON FOR HILLARY CLINTON'S CAMPAIGN: Good morning, sir.
CUOMO: Feeling good about yourself this morning, aren't you?
FINNEY: I am feeling good about the campaign and I have to tell you, last night, it was really fun watching all of these young kids who have just been killing themselves and having a moment to enjoy their hard work.
CUOMO: You did well. Better than expected. Why?
FINNEY: I think because we had a better ground game. I think we learned some things from Michigan and we made sure that we're not only focusing on the cities but then also touching some of the areas outside.
But I also think it is because of Hillary's message. Senator Sanders tried to come at her on trade. And I think at the end of the day, what resonated with people was her message about not just how we protect American workers from trade deals and what she would do, because one you start talking about not what her husband did, but she actually when she was senator in terms of voting against CAFTA, that's a different conversation as is her ideas for bringing back and saving -- revitalizing manufacturing jobs.
CUOMO: As we're showing on the screen right now, she won by 10 points on that issue in Ohio. Ohio, why we're saying Ohio? Well, it's a very important state and it was seen as the model state for Michigan and the corollary to that election.
FINNEY: That's right.
CUOMO: All right. So, we know the pluses. Also, a big boost for her and Sanders among the base. Some are saying that's reaction formation out of what's going on in the GOP side.
FINNEY: Right. CUOMO: That their numbers are going up and certainly in turnout,
they're give you a good beat-down on the GOP side. Their turnout numbers are all up.
On the Democrat side, you've got people coming out, it's robust, but it is not record setting the way theirs are.
FINNEY: Well, I would say, there's a couple of things. Number one, I think Ohio hard to tell because we did hear a lot of reports of Democrats who were actually voting for Kasich as a way to vote against Trump. But more importantly, I think we've seen pretty strong turnout. I mean, that Hillary Clinton now has 2.3 million more votes than senator sanders. She also has 300 pledge delegate lead somewhere around there. So, we're feeling good about where we are I got to say.
CUOMO: So, we can see him what the secretary was saying last night, that it's not that she's looking past Bernie Sanders but she's looking macro this her message. She's starting to address things that aren't going well.
What we saw areas of challenge, let's say, or you still got your honest and trustworthy problem. We saw the numbers coming out of sample state, Missouri and Ohio. \
Sanders still had a prohibitive lead with her on those voters. Honesty matters most. Who do you want? Age, the younger voters still not going for Hillary Clinton. And these independents, as we discussed earlier.
FINNEY: Yes.
CUOMO: She's got a little bit of work to do there as well. Why? How do you deal with that?
FINNEY: Well, a couple of things. On the younger vote, I feel slightly different but not surprising, if you take a look at Florida and actually back to Massachusetts where she won in almost of the college towns, I think we are starting to see progress with younger voters.
So, I certainly was in a -- you know, office full of --
CUOMO: You see that thing?
FINNEY: OK, I know you got your numbers. I'm just telling you what I see when I go out to the states.
CUOMO: They aren't my numbers. The numbers.
FINNEY: The numbers.
Well, I'm just telling you what I see, you know, out in the world, talking to people. And, look, with independents, I think that is going to be a different issue when you are talking about the general election construct because then certainly if Mr. Trump is the nominee, I think the stakes couldn't be higher and I think the argument around that is not one that is too hard to make. And that is what people are starting to realize.
