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Couple Brings Joy to Others; GOP Battles for Wisconsin; The Manhunt for Brussels Terrorists Seemingly Gone Cold; The Good Stuff. Aired 8:30-9a ET

Aired April 05, 2016 - 08:30   ET

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[08:30:00] JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: Caucus, you know, in 1860, there are now.

GOV. TOMMY THOMPSON, WISCONSIN: That's true.

BERMAN: The process has changed. But I do understand your argument. And, look, every political reporter in America I know would like to see an open convention as well. It would be interesting to cover.

Governor Tommy Thompson, thanks so much for being with us. Appreciate it.

THOMPSON: Sure. John, thank you and good luck to you. And I look forward to seeing you in Cleveland.

BERMAN: I need all the luck I can get.

Chris.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: The investigation widening into the Brussels and Paris attacks. Remember, the more they look, the more of a network they seem to find, the more numbers get involved. How big is this cell? Is it only one cell? And how does this understanding feed into the threats going forward? We have new information ahead.

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MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: All right, here we go with the Tuesday edition of the five things you need to know.

Voters casting ballots today in Wisconsin's primary. A victory by Ted Cruz over Donald Trump could spell reset in the Republican race for president.

Meanwhile, Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton neck and neck in Wisconsin. Sanders looking to win his sixth of the last seven Democratic contests. The two agreeing to a debate here on CNN five days before the New York primary on April 19th.

[08:35:04] Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley agreeing to meet with President Obama's Supreme Court nominee, Merrick Garland, but the Republican senator says he will not offer the judge a confirmation hearing. A source close to the investigation into Sunday's Amtrak crash near

Philadelphia says the two Amtrak workers killed in Sunday's crash likely made a colossal mistake by being on the wrong line.

A thrilling finish to the men's college basketball seen. Villanova capturing the national championship with a heart-pounding 77-74 victory over North Carolina. In the meantime, the UCONN women's basketball team goes for its fourth straight NCAA title tonight. The Huskies take on Syracuse.

For more on the five things to know, be sure to visit newdaycnn.com.

Chris.

CUOMO: Thank you. Mic.

An Atlanta couple dreamed of owning their own restaurant, but then tragedy struck. So watch as they used their devastating news to bring joy to others. That is today's Impact Your World.

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CUOMO (voice over): Chef Ryan Hidinger and his wife Jen dreamed of starting their own restaurant.

JEN HIDINGER, THE GIVING KITCHEN: We were working our supper club out of our home for about four years until a very unexpected moment happened in our lives. He was diagnosed with stage four gallbladder cancer.

CUOMO: Their friends in the restaurant community came together to raise money for them.

HIDINGER: And for Ryan and I to stand there as this couple that was benefitting from all of this, what community can be about, literally impacted us.

CUOMO: Ryan and Jen started The Giving Kitchen.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I was out of work for three months.

CUOMO: A non-profit that helps Atlanta restaurant workers facing financial emergencies. The money comes from fundraisers and Ryan's restaurant, which finally became a reality in 2015 with an even greater purpose. One hundred percent of the profits go back to The Giving Kitchen.

Ryan passed away in 2014, but he lived long enough to set the table for what would become his legacy.

HIDINGER: He would be the first to say, I don't deserve it. But he did. Because he was just that good. And it's humbling to be able to stand at the restaurant that we dreamed of.

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BERMAN: What a legacy.

All right, politics now. Some statements from Donald Trump over the last two weeks may haunt him in today's Wisconsin primary. We're going to look at Donald Trump's statements about a popular governor in that state, former presidential rival Scott Walker. Wisconsin's lieutenant governor joins us live.

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[08:41:31] CUOMO: Big, big day. Big, big night. The voting has started in Wisconsin. Primary voters heading to the polls. This is going to be a big deal on both side of this race. The result on the GOP side could literally change the delegate calculus going forward in terms of whether or not Donald Trump can get to 1,237. So let's discuss with Rebecca Kleefisch, lieutenant governor of Wisconsin.

Governor, good of you to join us today. Congratulations to the state for meaning so much in this election. What do you expect to see in the outcome tonight?

REBECCA KLEEFISCH (R), LT. GOVERNOR, WISCONSIN: I expect to see a huge turnout. First of all, interestingly enough, your crew said that they have spent most of their time over the last several weeks with the Bernie Sanders camps and then the Trump camps. I think today the location that they have chosen here in Brookfield, Wisconsin, is a Cruz bastion in Wisconsin. I think tonight's results are going to be very interesting. And much as Wisconsin loves to be the epicenter for politics in the nation, I think you're going to see a really important litmus test for the GOP candidates tonight.

CUOMO: Well, the first thing I must tell you is that the CNN crews will hang around with anyone who feeds them. So you cannot necessarily look to them for any type of solid indication. I'm expecting your shot to go out now in retaliation. No, we're still good? Good.

Let's take a look at some of the political dynamic within --

KLEEFISCH: Well, I've got coffee.

CUOMO: You see. That's what I'm saying. Don't offer it to them.

The -- the GOP dynamic that you have within your own state --

KLEEFISCH: Awe, now, we're kind folks here in Wisconsin.

CUOMO: You are. You're known for that. And that's the point of the next question, which is --

KLEEFISCH: OK.

CUOMO: When Donald Trump went at the governor -- the governor is popular numerically. Eighty percent positive he's at right now. Almost unheard of in politics. You see the numbers on the screen for the audience at home, 80/17. Donald Trump went on to say, let's be honest, you're average. The governor's average. The state is doing average. I know you do not agree with that, but what do you think the impact of that was on this race?

KLEEFISCH: I think it's very poor form. I don't know where he gets his logic on going in that direction. I think perhaps because he did not win the endorsement of Governor Scott Walker, he chose to go negative on the governor. But don't forget,

this is how Donald Trump has responded to Governor Scott Walker from the very beginning. When the governor was still a presidential candidate, I think that there was probably a little bit of candidate jealousy there because Donald Trump was a newer entry into the race and Governor Scott Walker was exceptionally, exceptionally popular. Scott Walker's candidacy from the start. And so way back then he started using Democrat talking points.

But in Wisconsin, we've got a really different Republican Party than what you see across the country. We really had to unite and work together back in 2012 in order to defeat the recall attempts against the governor, against me and a number of our state senators. So you had your libertarian leaders, you had your Tea Party, you had your establishment Republicans and even your Republican minded independents all working together, pulling in the same direction in order to get us across the finish line in 2012. We built a lot of good will there.

[08:45:06] And then on top of that, act 10. Remember that brought all the protesters and that he has recall efforts in the beginning to Wisconsin in the first place.

Act 10 has now saved $5.24 billion. And so when Governor Walker says he's going to do something, he actually does it. And therefore, you know, gets the good will of the people of Wisconsin. I think it's a fool hardy strategy that Donald Trump has running negative on Scott Walker.

CUOMO: Do you think there is a chance that Donald Trump can unify the party?

KLEEFISCH: I think it would be very, very tough in Wisconsin at least. And here's why. There is a huge #NeverTrump movement here. And talk radio is a gigantic electoral motivator, especially in southeastern Wisconsin where we get three quarters of our primary votes from places like the ones right behind me now. And when you have talk radio that is so negative on Donald Trump's candidacy it's going to be a really tough idea to kind of unite around a candidate that has been very divisive, at least here in Wisconsin. That's why I think tonight is going to be a very, very important indicator of what happens next.

Will Donald Trump pull this one out? Will the voters in southeastern Wisconsin outnumber the voters from out state who tend to be a little bit more conservative, libertarian leaning here in Wisconsin?

The ones in southeastern Wisconsin, a little bit more establishment. Will we end up seeing a complete toss up, something that we didn't expect at all?

John Kasich pulling it out because he won the endorsement of former Wisconsin Governor Tommy Thompson, I think tonight is going to be fascinating. But ultimately I think tonight Ted Cruz will end up prevailing in Wisconsin.

CUOMO: Lieutenant Governor Kleefisch, thank you for doing both of our jobs. You answered the questions and you asked them as well. Thank you very much for that. Appreciate It.

KLEEFISCH: You got it.

CUOMO: John.

BERMAN: All right, chilling new details into the ISIS led attacks in Brussels and Paris, that's next.

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[08:51:13] PEREIRA: Two weeks after the Brussels attacks, the man hunt for the fugitive terror suspects has seemingly gone cold.

Now a report about how big the terror network behind both the Brussels and Paris attacks could be.

Here to discuss this, CNN National Security Analyst, Juliette Kayyem. She has a brand new book folks, it's titled Security Mom, An Unclassified Guide to Protecting Our Homeland and Your Home. Congratulations on that.

JULIETTE KAYYEM, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: Thank you.

PEREIRA: We'll talk about the book in a moment. But we do have to talk about this news. There are reports that the authorities in Europe are tracking some two dozen by some report to suspects linked to these attacks. Many involved in previous ISIS plots. Many have spent time in Syria. Many of them have links and were radicalized in Molenbeek.

What lessons can Europe take from what we know in terms of, you know, having immigrants come to this country integrating here, filling a part of the dialogue ...

KAYYEM: You're exactly right. They have a short-term problem obviously which is finding these two dozen if not more.

PEREIRA: Priority.

KAYYEM: Priority, right. And my guess is that they picked those two dozen because they have gone dark and they have been following them since they don't know where they are.

PEREIRA: Most concerning ones, right.

KAYYEM: But there are longer term problem is a European problem, which they can learn a lot from us which is these communities that either immigrate or second generation immigrants are not feeling invested in the safety and security in the future of the countries that they call home, right.

So this is a systemic generational problem for Europe. What can they learn from us? Well there's many reasons why America is safer. We're not perfectly safe. We know that. And one of them is clearly our ability over our own history to integrate and assimilate and welcome new communities. We do not have a generational problem in our Muslim community here in America. And that's why people like me and the security space, you know, sort of push back against some of the political dialogue about focusing on Muslims because that is not a long-term solution. That's creating a long-term problem.

PEREIRA: This is somebody who should know. She's written a book as I've just ...

KAYYEM: Let's talk about me. Let's just talk about me.

PEREIRA: ... the child of immigrants who had a storied career. And a very interesting and fascinating read. And you talk about the adventures and challenges of being a mom doing the work that you did and do and knowing the things you know.

Why write the book? Was it because of that that you almost -- was it almost a need for catharsis?

KAYYEM: Maybe a little bit. I mean a part of it was telling the stories of what it is like to be in homeland security ...

PEREIRA: Front line.

KAYYEM: ... because it was so great. And because so many people just don't even know what is that apparatus? What does FEMA do? How the snow day get cold, right.

A lot people, you know, mothers will sit there go, "Why do they call it ...

PEREIRA: Right.

KAYYEM: So this sort of basic tactical information. But the more important part was, you know, we, those of us in my field sort of sit and talk in a way that I think is not very, you know, attainable to most people sitting around the coffee table.

So I just kind of wanted to bring it back home, bring it down to earth like we're talking here, you know, just sort of say "Look, the world is scary. But there's ways we can minimize the risk to ourselves and still maintain our freedoms and our creativity."

PEREIRA: I looked at one -- some of the things you had to do with you're -- in the stories, you told about dealing with your own kids. And you put together some list and suggestions on what families can do that to be safer in an unpredictable world. Let's pull them up and go through it.

First, be the boss, talk it out. Get shopping, fire drill and live your life. Just go quickly through obviously be the boss being charged right. KAYYEM: Be in charge, like, you know, if you're sitting around and watching T.V. saying "Oh my god, the world is going to hell in a hand basket," it is not very good for the family, right.

Other things that we can do, is we can prepare ourselves and our kids. A lot of it, age appropriate and maturity appropriate. But if they have iPhone name (ph) they know what's going on in the world.

Put it in perspective for them. Prepare your own home. It doesn't take that long. I, you know, you can do the shopping in hour ...

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KAYYEM: It is yeah. And it's -- we shouldn't make it that hard. And I think it's important that people realize that they can own their own homeland security and their own home security.

[08:55:05] PEREIRA: The bottom line, what I love is that you say live your life. No system and security or parenting is going to reduce the risk to zero. Remind your kids of the benefits of their engagement in the world.

I'll leave it at that because I like to end on a positive note. Congratulations on the book.

KAYYEM: Thank you.

PEREIRA: And thank you for always being here to tell, to give us perspective.

KAYYEM: Opportunities here.

PEREIRA: Absolutely. I think we need some Good Stuff.

KAYYEM: Yes.

PEREIRA: We'll do that next.

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CUOMO: Time for The Good Stuff.

PEREIRA: Yehey.

CUOMO: Here's the story. All right, at Anne Arundel County School in Glen Burnie, Maryland, OK. School announcements are made by students at their T.V. station, OK.

Equipment problems happen. So they couldn't have the picture anymore only audio.

PEREIRA: Sort of like radio.

CUOMO: Yes.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Start of the school year often inquiring about when it was going to be fixed and found out we're very low on the totem pole.

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CUOMO: All right, they didn't have the money. We hear this all the time, right. Sixth grader -- sixth Scotty Brooks, comes up with an idea to fix the problem.

PEREIRA: OK, Scotty.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm like why I can't -- why I should I just like make it online so kids can see it and not just hear it.

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PEREIRA: Hello. Smarty pants.

[09:00:00] CUOMO: One more reason to give him an iPad, Scotty's solution, basically using an app, a broadcast app, not only brought back the T.V. station. But saved the school $8,000 with the new program.

PEREIRA: That's amazing. Well done.