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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Powerful earthquakes rocked Ecuador and Japan this weekend, killing hundreds and injuring thousands.

[07:00:07] CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Rescue workers are still racing against time to find any signs of life.

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I don't want to play the rule game. We live in a democracy.

GOV. JOHN KASICH (R-OH), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I am not going to whine, but I can tell you the facts.

SEN. TED CRUZ (R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We're headed to a battle to see who the Republican nominee is.

TRUMP: We need a little more aggression in this country.

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (D-VT), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: You cannot have a super PAC, and then tell the American people you're going to stand up to the big money interests.

HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It's easy to diagnose a problem. You've got to be able to solve the problem!

SANDERS: We have got to be bold, and aggressive.

CLINTON: Are we perfect? No. But are we already great? The answer is yes!

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ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo, Alisyn Camerota and Michaela Pereira.

CUOMO: Good morning. Welcome back to your NEW DAY. Alisyn is off. Brooke Baldwin is with us.

BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: Sure is. Good morning.

CUOMO: Good morning. Of course, following the presidential race. Tomorrow's big primary in New York. We have Bernie Sanders here live on the show in a little bit, but there's also breaking news to tell you about this morning that's very important. BALDWIN: Let's begin with the earthquake devastation in Japan and in

Ecuador where the death toll is soaring. Hundreds are dead, thousands more injured. Rescuers sifting through the rubble to find survivors in both countries. We have both tragedies covered for you.

Let's begin with CNN's Matt Rivers in Japan.

Matt, good morning.

MATT RIVERS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning.

And night has fallen here in Japan, which makes those rescue efforts that much more difficult in combination with what they're up against. You can see the rubble there behind me, that is the kind of scene where we're seeing all over the place in this area.

Two people have been found, though, during rescue operations during the day today. Very welcome news for very weary rescuers, who have spent the last 48 hours looking for those people, but nine people, according to officials, remain trapped in this area.

We spent most of our day watching those rescue operations in this village, this very hard-hit village, and landslides have been the main culprit here, triggered by that earthquake that happened on Saturday. That mudslide, the landslide came down, knocked over buildings and trapped those people.

Tens of thousands are expected to spend the evening tonight once again in evacuation shelters for fear of more aftershocks. We have felt those aftershocks ourselves really making the ground sway back and forth. And we've also heard helicopters up above. The U.S. military has provided logistical support for its colleagues in the Japanese self-defense forces on the ground starting this cleanup process, and trying desperately to find any survivors.

Back to you.

PEREIRA: All right and thank you so much.

Meanwhile, a 7.8 earthquake shocked coastal Ecuador. The death toll continues to rise there. It rattled Ecuador over the weekend. We find our Boris Sanchez there now. We know the death toll is rising as they start to see how bad the effects of this has been.

BORIS SANCHEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's right, Michaela. The death toll will continue to grow. We've heard that from Ecuadorian leaders here. Part of the problem is the infrastructure in Ecuador has badly been rattled by this earthquake.

After several weeks of pounding rain from El Nino, the roads here were weakened. Now they're decimated following this earthquake, and you can see it right behind me illustrated by this bridge. This is one of the busiest overpasses in the city, where we are right now, and this bridge actually collapsed onto a car, killing a person and injuring a passenger, as well. P The president of Ecuador was actually at the Vatican over the weekend. He cut that trip short to come here and lead this recovery effort. More than 10,000 soldiers and 4,000 police officers are aiding in this process of digging out. As you said, a 7.8-magnitude earthquake, a massive earthquake, but not the deadliest that Ecuador has ever had. Back in 1987, a 7.2 killed 1,000 people. The hope here is that the damage in this earthquake is not quite as extensive.

Back to you.

PEREIRA: Boris, we're still hoping they may find some miracles of people alive under that rubble. Thank you so much.

And for people at home, if you'd like more information on how you can help the rescue and relief efforts both in Ecuador and Japan, visit CNN.com/Impact.

CUOMO: All right. Now, let's give you the update on the political war that is going on here on the eve of the New York primary. Donald Trump is warning the Republican Party bosses to fix the delegate system or get ready for, quote, "a rough July." That's when the convention is. Right?

Trump claiming he got robbed again, this time in Wyoming where all 14 of the state's delegates were awarded to Ted Cruz over the weekend.

We have the political coverage. Let's kick it off with CNN's Jason Carroll, live at Trump Tower in Manhattan -- Jason.

JASON CARROLL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: And good morning to you, Chris.

You know, when you talk about Donald Trump and his whole beef with the delegate system, here's some of the words that he's used to describe what's going on: sham, crooked, dishonest, rigged. Certainly, he's doing well in polls here, but if he wants to mend ties with the GOP establishment, he certainly has some ground to cover.

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[07:05:13] TRUMP: We have a system that's rigged. We have a system that's crooked. We have this delegate system, which is a sham.

CARROLL (voice-over): Donald Trump doubling down on his war with the RNC and continuing to criticize Ted Cruz's ground game in the race toward 1,237 delegates.

TRUMP: The fact that you're taking all these people out and wining them and dining them, nobody does that stuff better than me. I just don't want to do it.

CARROLL: The frontrunner tweeting over the weekend, "Lyin' Ted Cruz can't get the votes. I am millions ahead of him, so he has to get his delegates from the Republican bosses. It won't work."

Cruz responding, tweeting that "Over 1.3 million people voted in five contests against Trump. #NoWhining" REINCE PRIEBUS, RNC CHAIR: I find it to be rhetoric and hyperbole.

CARROLL: And RNC chairman Reince Priebus explaining that the RNC can't alter the rules between now and the convention, and that it's up to each state to decide the rules.

PRIEBUS: The majority of delegates is the goal, and you need to be able to play within the confines of the rules to make sure that you get there.

CARROLL: Trump's complaints coming on the heels of Ted Cruz's sweeping win in Wyoming, a state where delegates are won through a convention not a primary. Cruz was the only candidate to attend the convention and aggressively campaign in the state.

CRUZ: Wyoming matters. We're in a battle, a nationwide battle, for delegates.

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CARROLL: So despite what he thinks of the delegate system, Trump is still on track to secure nearly the bulk of the 95 delegates here in the state, and he's predicting after the California primary he'll have what he needs to secure the nomination -- Brooke.

BALDWIN: Jason Carroll, thank you very much there in front of Trump Tower this Monday morning. Let me bring in the co-chair of Mr. Trump's New York campaign and New York City councilman Joe Borelli and New Jersey chairman of the Ted Cruz presidential campaign, Steve Lonegan.

So gentlemen, good morning. A big day tomorrow.

STEVE LONEGAN, NEW JERSEY CHAIRMAN, TED CRUZ PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN: Absolutely.

BALDWIN: Big day tomorrow here in New York. And Joe, let me just begin with you. To Jason's point, obviously, obviously, the Trump camp hoping to lock up, if not all 95 delegates, the majority of. How confident are you that that will happen?

JOE BORELLI, NEW YORK CITY COUNCILMAN: Extremely confident. The last poll coming out this weekend that Trump still has a significant lead at 54 percent. And here, unlike in some other places with some fair criticism for, Donald Trump has an outstanding ground game. He has the support of a large number of county chairmen. So those are the people that would be appointing the delegates in all these Congressional districts he's winning. So I'm confident in a couple things.

That we have a large victory at night, and we end up with the lion's share of all 95 delegates.

BALDWIN: So it's 95 stake here in New York, looking at you, thinking of Ted Cruz over the weekend, got all 14 of those delegates at the Wyoming state convention over the weekend, which is great for you all. I want to just read a tweet from Senator Cruz. He tweeted, "Donald,

1.5 million people just voted" -- and he rambles off a number of states -- "you lost all five in a row by huge margins. #NoWhining."

You think he's a whiner?

LONEGAN: Oh, he's been absolutely whining because he's losing, losing, losing for the past 2 1/2 weeks, 3 weeks, may break that losing streak in New York.

But the other thing that happened over the weekend, of course, in states like Georgia, North Carolina, Kentucky, Oklahoma. Ted Cruz has been earning delegates as Republicans have been gathering in fire houses and church basements to caucus and work hard to become delegates, because that's what the Republican Party is about. It's about the people who make the phone calls, knock on doors, volunteer for the campaigns, get people elected. Maybe some of them have been elected officials.

Donald Trump calls these hard-working Republicans Party bosses. Those who make up the party. His idea of Republican is somebody who takes five minutes out of their day, stops by the voting booth, casts a vote, and then goes home, sits on the couch and posts things on Facebook.

BALDWIN: Wow.

LONEGAN: The Republican Party is about its grass roots. It's about the people who work hard every single day to build the party. That's the delegates that go to the convention and nominate the next president of the United States.

BALDWIN: You have to respond to that.

BORELLI: Out of those states that Ted Cruz mentioned, not all of them, people actually voted in a traditional or conventional means.

But that said, you know, let's even give Ted Cruz the notion that he had a very successful weekend, but what happens tomorrow? Ninety-five delegates go to -- potentially go to Donald Trump. You pivot that into the following Tuesday, where we have five Northeastern states, where Donald Trump can also pull off the greater share of 172 delegates. This might be the swan song of Ted Cruz's campaign.

Once he breaks that 1,000-delegate mark, whether the American public likes it or not, we have to start accepting that Donald Trump is going to be the presumptive nominee.

BALDWIN: The Cruz team has been extraordinarily organized; seem to be, in a sense, winning in the delegate game. We talk a lot, both on the Republican and Democratic side about math versus momentum. You know, we've heard from -- because we've heard time and time again, even Mr. Trump trickling down over the weekend -- what was the adjective -- calling it a bad system. You know, over and over hearing that it needs to change.

[07:10:00] So we've heard from the RNC chair, Reince Priebus, referring to all of this as hyperbole. Here he was.

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REINCE PRIEBUS, RNC CHAIR: I find it to be rhetoric and hyperbole. I think everyone understands these rules have been in place for years. But ultimately, about cleaning things up, it's up to the delegates. I mean, by majority, the delegates decide. They decide everything. So it's not a matter of party insiders. It's a matter of 2,400-plus grassroots activists, and whatever they want to do, they can do.

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BALDWIN: Do you agree with him?

LONEGAN: It's ironic that this convention is going to be against a New Yorker named Donald Trump. Back to the very beginning of the Republican Party, it's functioned over these same rules for 160 years. It was Abraham Lincoln who, on the third ballot, knocked off the New York frontrunner, Mr. Seward on the third ballot by earning the delegates to win that election.

You know, Donald Trump has been using the Republican Party for his own ends. And it's about time people woke up and realized that, because at the end of the day after he loses that convention, we get these threats about how he's willing to run a third-party campaign, all these other things: you're going to have riots at the convention as he gets the nomination. It's pretty clear to me that Donald Trump is using the Republican Party.

And at the end of the day, when he loses, he'll go back to the Democratic Party, where he's spent most of his life.

BORELLI: That's absurd.

LONEGAN: Is he going to get behind the front-runner? Is he going to get behind the winner of the convention?

BORELLI: At the end of the day, delegates are what count. But realistically, voters are the ones who should be appointing those delegates. And we see that Donald Trump is consistently...

BALDWIN: But when he signed up, he knew the rules. How do you -- how can you suddenly change the rules?

BORELLI: We're not changing the rules. We're not asking for any rules to be changed. They're going after delegates at a stage where they can win. We have potential to come off with a huge win tomorrow and the next day, as I've said before. And the takeaway really should be that Donald Trump has 2 million more votes than Ted Cruz. People in the United States of America want to believe that the person with the most votes ought to win.

BALDWIN: But it's the primary process at the end of the day.

LONEGAN: And by the way, 65 percent of Republican primary voters have voted against Donald Trump. He has one-third of the vote. BORELLI: By that standard, more have voted against him.

BALDWIN: And by the way, he may hit the magic number of 1,237 and may not have this conversation.

LONEGAN: And if he does, he'll win the nomination. But you know, on Friday Donald Trump actually got up and said he didn't want to waste his money -- listen to this -- he didn't want to waste his money going to Wyoming and asking for their votes.

To him, going to Wyoming and asking for those votes, was a waste of their money.

BALDWIN: To say there's 14 delegates and he's focusing on New York, 95 delegates at stake.

But at the end of the day, when we talk about Cleveland and some of the words, some of the verbiage we're hearing from Mr. Trump, specifically, you know, perhaps a rough July, hoping the Cleveland convention doesn't turn violent, but he's continuing to press the case that the system is rigged.

Final question to you: do you -- do you think that's the right choice of words? Is he stirring the pot ahead of July?

BORELLI: Maybe he's stirring the pot and trying to motivate his voters. People who vote for Donald Trump expect that their votes will translate into delegates.

BALDWIN: Is that motivating, saying it could be a rough July?

BORELLI: Does it motivate people? I guess some people. But at the end of the day, it's going to be a rough June for Ted Cruz. too. Because even if this campaign gets stretched out to the June primaries, he's still got leads in California and New Jersey.

BALDWIN: OK.

LONEGAN: I think Trump supporters need to understand something. This is what they need to realize: that Ted Cruz has the kind of ground game and ability to organize and win that we need to beat Hillary Clinton. Donald Trump doesn't have the ability to beat Hillary Clinton. That's what's going to matter at the convention come July.

BALDWIN: Gentleman, thank you so much. To be continued tomorrow. A big day here in New York. Joe Borelli and Steve Lonegan, appreciate your time this early Monday morning.

Michaela, to you.

PEREIRA: Darling, thank you.

All right. Bragging rights and then some on the line for Democrats as we count down to tomorrow's high-stakes New York primary. Can Brooklyn-born Bernie Sanders upset former Senator Hillary Clinton in her adopted home state? CNN's Chris Frates joins us with more -- Chris.

CHRIS FRATES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey, good morning, Michaela.

So Hillary Clinton, she's feeling good enough about her lead here in the Empire State that she rolled to the left coast this weekend to raise money, and some eyebrows, including former host George Clooney who called the amount of money raised at his fundraiser obscene, and Sanders returned from his visit with the pope to a huge rally in his native Brooklyn.

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FRATES (voice-over): Bernie Sanders has been hammering Hillary Clinton for her ties to Wall Street.

SANDERS: You cannot have a super PAC raise many millions of dollars from Wall Street or special interests and then tell the American people with a straight face that you're going to stand up to the big money interests. Not true.

FRATES: The Vermont senator is also ramping up his attacks on her campaign donations. Clinton spent some of the weekend in California raising money for herself and other Democrats with two events hosted by George Clooney. VIP ticket prices hit over $353,000.

A group of Sanders supporters were showering her motorcade with 1,000 $100 bills in Los Angeles on Saturday. Clooney admitting he understands the frustration.

GEORGE CLOONEY, ACTOR: It is an obscene amount of money. In the Sanders campaign, when they talk about it, it is absolutely right. It's ridiculous that we should have this kind of money in politics.

[07:15:08] FRATES: Sanders praised Clooney's honesty, quipping the actor is backing the wrong horse.

SANDERS: You're not going to have a government that represents all of us, so long as you have candidates like Secretary Clinton being dependent on big-money interests.

FRATES: On the campaign trail, Bill Clinton, making several unscheduled stops around New York, was taking a swipe at Sanders.

BILL CLINTON, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I think it's funny that all these young students have been so enthusiastic for an opponent and sounds so good, just shoot every third person on Wall Street and everything will be fine.

FRATES: And Hillary Clinton was talking up her experience to voters across the five boroughs on Sunday...

H. CLINTON: It's easy to diagnose the problem. You've got to be able to solve the problem!

FRATES: ... even cutting loose to Latin music at a block party.

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FRATES: Now, Clinton continues to lead Sanders by a wide margin in New York, and the polls here, but both candidates, of course, campaigning hard today in New York City. Clinton will hold a get-out- the-vote rally this afternoon in Manhattan, and Sanders, well, he has a rally scheduled tonight in Long Island City. And Bernie Sanders looking for a big upset here tomorrow if he wants a shot at narrowing Hillary Clinton's lead, Michaela.

PEREIRA: But first, he's going to join us here, Chris, on NEW DAY. Senator Bernie Sanders joins us on NEW DAY. we'll speak to him live when he joins us in the studio in the 8 a.m. hour.

CUOMO: All right. We're dealing with a political crisis in Brazile, lawmakers voting to impeach the president there. A two-thirds majority passing the motion in Brazil's lower house last night. It now goes before the Senate, and if it's passed there, the president is going to have to step down for six months to defend herself in an impeachment trial. The president has to step down to do that in Brazil. That's a key distinction.

Now, this is all going to be revolving around the election there in 2014. As we get details, we'll give them to you.

PEREIRA: A college student in California is demanding an apology from Southwest Airlines after being escorted off a plane for speaking Arabic. Khairuldeen Makhzoomi says he called his uncle in Baghdad while waiting for the plane to take off from L.A. earlier this month. A woman sitting in front of him told the crew she overheard him making potentially threatening comments. Then a crew member escorted him off the plane. He was then questioned by the FBI. Makhzoomi says he does not plan to take legal action.

BALDWIN: OK. What do you get when you match up CNN's New York debate in Brooklyn with a "Seinfeld" twist? "SNL" comedy gold. This weekend's show opening with a CNN debate spoof and mini-"Seinfeld" reunion host, host Julia Louis-Dreyfus channeling Elaine, and Larry David playing Bernie Sanders, glossing over her question in classic "Seinfeld" fashion.

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JULIA LOUIS-DREYFUS, ACTRESS: So, listen, you've been pretty vague in the past, but how exactly are you going to break up the big banks?

LARRY DAVID, ACTOR/WRITER: You mean a big bank breakup?

LOUIS-DREYFUS: Yes, a big bank breakup.

DAVID: You break 'em up!

LOUIS-DREYFUS: How? How?

DAVID: Once I'm elected president I'll have a nice schvitz in the White House gym. Then I'll go to the big banks, I'll sit them down; and yada, yada, yada, they'll be broken up! LOUIS-DREYFUS: What? No, no! You can't yada yada at a debate.

Also, you yada yada-ed over the best part.

DAVID: No. I mentioned the schvitz!

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PEREIRA: The yada yada.

BALDWIN: I love it.

PEREIRA: Classic "Seinfeld" moment all coming together.

So good. I love it. Fantastic.

CUOMO: You take something that's close enough to what's going on, that there's a plausibility, and then you make it ridiculous.

PEREIRA: And then a little -- a little, you know, remembrance from back in the day is always odd, too. I feel like we should give some pointers to the guy who plays Wolf. I don't know if I'm totally sold.

CUOMO: You can't be Wolf. You can't blame them for that. He's unique. That's why he's the captain. Can't be copied.

PEREIRA: One and only, he is.

CUOMO: And he does have a heck of a beard. Very generous.

Polls showing Clinton leading Sanders right now in New York. But so what? The polls are wrong all the time. Look at the rallies. Look at the rhetoric. Can he pull off an upset? Why congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard, Sanders supporter, makes the case, ahead.

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[07:23:21] CUOMO: All right. It is true. By most polls, you're going to see that Hillary Clinton is leading Bernie Sanders by double digits or close or even more than that. You know what? The polls are often very wrong, especially when you're dealing with big demographics, and that's what you'll have here in New York.

And there's no question that rallies are telling a different story of momentum: 20,000-plus, Washington Square Park. In Brooklyn yesterday, they say there were even more than that, and you're seeing a lot of different positive movements, as well.

We have the Congress member from Hawaii, Tulsi Gabbard, here. She is a big player in Congress, and she believes that Senator Sanders is the right choice; and you're here to make the case. Always a pleasure.

REP. TULSI GABBARD (D), HAWAII: I do. Thanks, Chris.

CUOMO: Now, we like to talk about what matters, especially where the veterans are involved. This matters in the race, as well. We've asked each of the candidates what's going on with the G.I. Bill right now in Congress? Trying to take this out -- I know you know the bill very well. So you guys remember, we talked about it on Friday with the head of the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans Association. Four hundred thousand-plus members they have.

They're trying to take this money that was for a housing allowance that a lot of people when there was overage used for dependents. Help those families. Congress members want to take that money and use it to pay for other programs. They say this is being efficient. The veterans organization and others in that space say, no, it isn't. Find your money somewhere else. The G.I. Bill is not a piggy bank.

We've asked Senator Cruz, Governor Kasich, Hillary -- Secretary Clinton, Senator Sanders, to come out and say what they'd do to support the bill. How important is it?

GABBARD: It's critically important, both because of the support that it provides for veterans and their family members, as you mentioned, their dependents, whether it's a spouse or children, but it's also symbolic of something bigger that's happening here.

The bottom line is, you don't break your promises to our veterans, to our service members, you know, who put their lives on the line and sacrificed so much, to their family members. This goes against the very mission of the V.A., the Veterans Affairs Department.

[07:25:19] So this is really a big thing, both for the G.I. Bill, but it's also indicative of other efforts that we see time and time again, trying to peel back benefits for our veterans that are intended to be able to honor their service, and to be able to help them through this transition.

CUOMO: Now, Secretary Clinton came up and -- forward first, and said, "I'm not going to let that happen. I'll fight against it." To be fair, Senator Sanders has been pretty aggressive in putting out additional programs for veterans. We'll see what he says about this when we have him on.

GABBARD: I'll just mention Senator Sanders, I think, put out a tweet several weeks ago when he first learned about this effort, talking about how it's important to defend the G.I. Bill. And as you mentioned, both through his time in the Senate, as well as what he has outlined he will do as president for our veterans, he's got a strong track record of championing their needs and making sure that they get the care that they deserve.

CUOMO: So let's use the rest of our time here to deal with the specifics. Everything that Tulsi Gabbard just said is true about Bernie Sanders, but the big question is, can he get it done? His bill that he put out for vets a year and a half or so ago, couldn't get it done. This, if you were to go there and fight for it, can he get done? Free college. You know, changing the things that he wants to change about the banks. How will he be able to get these things done in D.C.? Sounds great, but the follow-through, maybe not so much. Defend it.

GABBARD: You know, he actually did pass a historic piece of veterans legislation serving in the United States Senate about a year and a half ago, the Veterans Choice and Accountability Act. This is something that was monumental, had been worked on for a very long time.

A lot of people said it couldn't be done, but he worked with John McCain in a bipartisan fashion and got this legislation through. It's done a whole host of things. First of which is provided access to veterans, who as CNN has talked about in-depth, faced these incredible wait periods just to see a doctor for a first time, just to see a specialist to get that care.

This choice act said, "Hey, look, if the V.A. is telling you you've got to wait more than 30 days, the V.A. will pay for you to go and see a doctor in your community so you get that care."

CUOMO: So he was able to do that. How about these bigger ticket items, though? Getting free college? And I'm leaving the deficit talk to the side. A lot of economists are saying the numbers don't add up. But I'm talking political capital.

What is it about Bernie Sanders that you can tell the voters in this state and this country, "Yes, he can get it done. It's not just pie in the sky"?

GABBARD: Well, he's shown through his record he can work in a bipartisan effort to get things done. And I think if you look at that rally that I was at yesterday in Brooklyn, I was incredibly moved. There were 28,300 people who came out to Brooklyn yesterday not for a rock concert, but because they care about the future of this country and they care about taking action to be able to make things better, to be able to put some of these strong changes forward.

And whenever we see any major change that happens in Congress, we see that it happens because people on the grass roots mobilize. They activate. They call their members of Congress and say, "You have to get this done." I've seen that in the time that I've been in Congress. When things change, or you expect a certain outcome and then it flips, it happens because you have people like those here in New York who come out, who pick up the phone, who bang down the doors and say, "Hey, we demand this change. You are accountable to us as voters in this country."

And that's really what Bernie Sanders' focus is all about, and I think what should be giving us hope in this country. So many people really are stepping up, getting engaged, informed and taking action.

CUOMO: Tulsi Gabbard, always good to have you here. Thank you for making the case this morning.

GABBARD: Thank you.

CUOMO: Tulsi Gabbard, no joke. But nobody can make the case for Bernie Sanders like the man can himself. The senator will be here in the next hour. Join us for that, please -- Mick.

PEREIRA: All right. Saudi Arabia is threatening to hit the U.S. in the pocketbook if it pass a bill allows 9/11 victims to sue foreign sponsors of terror. Could this bill cause a U.S. Saudi rift that cannot be fixed?

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