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Hillary and Bill Clinton Vote in New York Primary; Donald Trump Campaigns in New York; Interview with Joel Benenson; Interview with Rudy Giuliani. Aired 8-8:30a ET
Aired April 19, 2016 - 08:00 ET
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[08:00:00] CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: That's always been an interesting thing with Hillary Clinton. They moved into the state. She would up becoming senator very quickly here, and then went international as secretary of state thereafter. So it has always been an interesting correction to New York for them. Bill has always been loved in this state.
BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: Another photo opportunity.
CUOMO: It doesn't happen --
BALDWIN: Can you imagine someone who happens to be voting? Obviously you know you're in Chappaqua, that she just photo bombed them.
(LAUGHTER)
BALDWIN: You know chances are high, picture, but imagine just jumping in the picture with who could be the next president of the United States.
CUOMO: It's a little interesting because, you know, Hillary can talk to people, take pictures, but you can't work the voters over there in the voting booth.
MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: You can chitchat.
BALDWIN: Swaying people last minute.
PEREIRA: You can talk about what's going on in the community.
CUOMO: Very interesting. Look, this is the big morning here. The New York polls are open. That's what today is about, the big New York primary.
BALDWIN: The big day.
CUOMO: So good morning to you and welcome to your NEW DAY. I hope you're going to vote if you're here in New York. We want major participation in both parties. This is it. Who's going to win? Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders hoping to show a big statement. For Clinton that means getting so many of the 247 Democratic delegates that this race seems almost impossible for Sanders to win. Sanders wants to make a different statement that this race is far from over, Brooke, and that's going to be the big assessment. BALDWIN: So as we watch, we just saw the live pictures of Hillary
Clinton voting, watching, of course, Bernie Sanders later as well.
Let's talk about the Republicans. Donald Trump, He could win his home state with more than 50 percent of the vote. That's what so many people are watching for. That then would mean he would get all of those prized delegates, all 95 on the Republican side. But as the voting begins this morning, there are reports of another big shake-up in the Trump camp. And we will be hearing much more. By the way, we have 10 lovely people who are up and at them before they even hit those polls, voting booths this morning. They are talking to us, because it's so important not to just talk not just to the experts, to the politicians, but to the real people of the great state of New York. We have that for you. Also we have the primary race covered the way that CNN can, starting with Chris Frates in Brooklyn, New York. Chris Frates, good morning.
CHRIS FRATES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey, good morning, Brooke. And seeing those pictures of Hillary Clinton reminds me I was with her eight years ago when she voted and won this state against Barack Obama, and today I'm here in Brooklyn, another battle ground, the battle of Brooklyn. Bernie Sanders a native of Brooklyn taking on Hillary Clinton in her Brooklyn Heights based campaign. They crisscrossed New York City yesterday. Bernie Sanders taking five hours to shake hands, kiss babies, and remind people what is at stake. And what is up for grabs is 250 delegates. That is second only to California.
And remember, no winner-talk-all here in New York. In New York, you win proportionately. So Bernie Sanders needs to have a very big night to help cut his lead against Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, feeling pretty good coming in today, leading by double digits in the polls and hoping she can win enough that she can essentially make it mathematically impossible for Bernie Sanders to catch her.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
HILLARY CLINTON, (D) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I am hoping to do really well tomorrow, hoping to wrap up the Democratic nomination. But, but, I'm not taking any chances.
(LAUGHTER)
CLINTON: I have to quickly add that before anybody has the wrong impression.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
FRATES: Now, just to give you a sense of how much is riding on -- now, just to give you a sense of how much is riding on today, Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders trading accusations throughout the day through the bitter end. The Sanders folks saying that Hillary Clinton is trying to circumvent campaign law. The Sanders folks say -- excuse me, the Clinton folks say that is absolutely not true. They are abiding by the letter of the finance law and these are false attacks at another character smear by a desperate Sanders campaign. But it really gives you a sense, as all these voters coming into the polls just how much is at stake Michaela.
PEREIRA: The stakes are high as is the energy. Thanks so much for that as we watched Hillary Clinton cast her vote there.
Now we turn to the Republican side, Donald Trump beaming with confidence in his home state, predicting a landslide victory to reignite his campaign. However, news that a top Trump aide has resigned, loyal to his campaign manager, has many wondering who is steering the ship. CNN's Jason Carroll is live on Staten Island with more for us. Hi, Jason.
JASON CARROLL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Who is steering the ship. That would be Donald Trump. He is the one captain of the ship. You can be sure about that. But what a big win in the state of New York would mean for the Trump campaign is they could start to shift, start to change the narrative. So far, as you know, so much of what we heard out of the Trump campaign has been all about this so-called crooked, rigged delegate system, how delegates are awarded. Trump very upset about losses in places like Colorado, losses in places like Wyoming. Just recently last night Trump's national field director Stuart Jolly announcing his resignation, saying that he's stepping not because of what happened on the ground, not because of the so called poor ground game, but because he says it was just the right thing to do. He says not being forced out.
[08:05:08] Last night no talk about that from Donald Trump at his rally up in Buffalo. He did, however, have some very choice words for Ted Cruz.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We're going to show Ted Cruz, who hates New York, hates New York, when you look at that debate, and you see the way he talked about us and New York values, no New Yorker can vote for Ted Cruz.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
CARROLL: Trump expected to hit one of the polling places like this one within about the next two hours or so. The latest polling showing that Trump still way ahead of both Cruz and Kasich, looking ahead. He's also polling well in places Pennsylvania, places like Connecticut as well. And according to what the Trump campaign is saying, if they can do well in the state of New York, then going forward, do well in places like Pennsylvania, Connecticut and Rhode Island, that will then set the momentum and the tone going forward. They believe if they can do well in all of these places, they will have that magic 1,237 number in time for the convention this summer. Chris?
CUOMO: Certainly still a lot of ifs built into that, Jason. That's what makes days like today so exciting. We'll check back with you in a little bit.
The polls are open for about two hours in some New York counties now. We've seen Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton exercising their franchise in Chappaqua, New York. Her Democratic opponent, Bernie Sanders, hoping his enthusiastic supporters show up in droves. He says huge turnout is the key to his victory here.
For that let's go to CNN's Miguel Marquez live in Lancaster, New York. Miguel, what are you seeing in terms of turnout, and we're told they're called screens, the things that are in front of the voters. Screens.
MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: They're actually called privacy folders, but I'm going to go with baby booths, because it's more interesting.
CUOMO: Screens.
MARQUEZ: Privacy folders. I'm not going to go against these two.
This is Sandy and Connie who have been checking in voters all morning long. They're started at 6:00 a.m. and are going to go until 9:00 p.m. tonight just outside of Buffalo here. They then check in with their voting district over there. Then you can see those white thingies there, or screens, or privacy folders, or what I'm going to call baby booths. Then they vote there.
It has been a very, very steady turnout in part because this is the first time in about 40 years in a presidential, both Democrats and the Republicans actually matter and New York state matters to that race.
It is also just enormously huge because you have three New Yorkers basically running in this race. They're expecting moderate to heavy turnout across the state. About 307,000 new registrants since December 1, 2015, the 170,000 Democrats, about 54,000 Republicans. So far, so good here. But we'll be here all day keeping track of those screens, Chris, Brooke?
BALDWIN: I'll take it. I'll take it. I was befuddled with all these different names. Miguel Marquez, thank you very much.
Let's hear from team Clinton. I have Democratic pollster and chief strategist for Hillary for American Joel Benenson with us this morning. Hello, sir, good morning.
JOEL BENENSON, CHIEF STRATEGIST, HILLARY FOR AMERICA: How are you, Brooke?
BALDWIN: So she just voted.
BENENSON: She did.
BALDWIN: With her husband. Any idea who she would have cast her ballot for?
BENENSON: Probably the same people I did.
BALDWIN: I have a feeling you could be correct. Let me just begin with this. She was in Queens, she was drinking her
bubble tea yesterday. And she said, quote, "I never count my chickens before they hatch." And 247 delegates up for grabs today on the Democratic side. Realistically, how well are you all hoping to do?
BENENSON: I think realistically, we know we're going to win here. We're confident of that. I think Senator Sanders in this campaign called this a must-win state for them. We want to add to our pledged delegate lead. We're around 220 now. You folks have it at 229. We would like to add to that in double digits and build it up closer to the 250 number today. That would be good.
BALDWIN: How do you, if we're waking up tomorrow morning and we're having this postgame conversation, and the turnout is huge as Bernie Sanders is hoping. If it's record turnout they could do well. Either it could be an upset or strong for them if they come within single digits of losing to Hillary Clinton. How does strategy change in the morning?
BENENSON: First let me talk about turnout. In the states that have had the highest turnout where more than seven percent of eligible voters have voted, there have been 22 states contested like that, Hillary Clinton has won 17 of them. So I think Senator Sanders assumption about high turnouts benefitting him hasn't been proven out.
I think that the election is going to be based on delegates, as I've said, all the way through. We're going to add to our pledged delegate lead today no matter what the ultimate number is, whether we win by five, seven, eight, we'll add to our pledged delegate lead. And that sets up an insurmountable amount for Senator Sanders to climb over the next couple of weeks. We have five states a week from today where we expect to do very well in Maryland. We're competing hard in all those states.
[08:10:00] And we are just going to keep adding to that lead, and he keeps losing real estate. And that's why this is such a difficult task for him.
BALDWIN: I need to ask about the allegations in the Sanders campaign toward you all. In a letter to the DNC, the Sanders camp is accusing you all of misusing funds gathered by joint fundraising committees set between your camp and the DNC from last year. The DNC response has been this was the same argument they made with the Sanders camp. I know that no legal challenge has officially been filed, nothing with the FED, which I can hear you say, well, that obviously means maybe it's not that serious, but what is your response?
BENENSON: My response is this is the kind of desperate false attack that they're making on the eve of an election that they know they're losing that they call a must-win election.
BALDWIN: You think it's desperate?
BENENSON: This is the same agreement that Senator Sanders himself signed himself with the DNC. It's the same agreement that past nominees, Barack Obama, John Kerry, have signed and used. They're the same kind of agreements that Senator Sanders benefited from when joint Democratic Party committees supported him in his elections for Senate even though he wasn't running on the Democratic line, he was supported by them. He attended fundraisers by people who were donating to these committees.
So let's see this for what it is. It is a desperate, false attack, by a campaign that is on the brink of losing in the state they said was a must-win state for them. And I think the real challenge here is Senator Sanders going to stop delivering destructive attacks that hurt Democrats that we need to elect up and down the ticket. Is he going to really try to support the party that is in favor of protecting voting rights, women's rights, economic justice, or is he going to turn himself into someone who is going to do what he said he wasn't going do and be a Ralph Nader and try to destroy the Democratic Party when it comes to defeating Republicans in November.
BALDWIN: We'll wait for a response from the Senator's campaign to that, desperate false attack that you say they're leveling against you all.
Let me pivot, because Bernie Sanders was sitting in that chair just yesterday. Chris asked a great question, which was, have you started to give any sort of thought to, if you do not win the nomination and Hillary Clinton goes on to clinch, and you have all of these faithful "feel the Bern" followers, right, what will you say to them to have them support a Democrat on the ticket? This is what Senator Sanders' response was.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BERNIE SANDERS, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I don't control millions of people. But the Clinton campaign is going to have to make the case to those young people that, in fact, they are prepared to stand up for some real fundamental changes in this country. And that's a case they have not yet been able to make.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BALDWIN: He doesn't feel like your camp has properly addressed the issues of all of these faithful young voters. How do you respond to that?
BENENSON: I think with all due respect to Senator Sanders, he is not the sole judge of whether Hillary Clinton is speaking to issues that any voter cares about, whether they're young or old. We're not saying that Senator Sanders hasn't tried to address issues that people over 30 or over 35 or over 50 care about.
BALDWIN: But a lot of these young voters are in his camp.
BENENSON: Yes, sure, let's be clear. We've won 2.4 million votes than Sanders.
BALDWIN: I know.
BENENSON: I think for Senator Sanders to act like he has somehow won a majority of the votes in this campaign --
BALDWIN: But he has some that you would want.
BENENSON: Of course he does. And we will court them. We will want them to be part of the Democratic Party if they believe in the values of the Democratic Party, who I feel is the party of the people. We have been fighting for equal justice on economic issues, on social issues, protecting women's health care. It's why Hillary Clinton has been supported by groups like Planned Parenthood, the Human Rights Campaign, fighting for LGBT rights, for environmental groups. She's gotten something done on climate change. She's fought for protecting voting rights. Those are issues that people care about of all ages, and we need to win them in November, and we will -- we're going to win them in November because we're going to campaign hard for their votes and to earn their votes.
BALDWIN: Again, live pictures outside, signing some autographs after she cast her ballot there in Chappaqua, New York. Mr. Benenson, as always, thank you so much.
BENENSON: Thank you.
BALDWIN: Thank you. Michaela?
PEREIRA: We turn to some breaking news out of Afghanistan now. The Taliban claiming responsibility for a coordinated suicide attack on a government security agency in central Kabul during the morning rush. We know at least 28 people were killed, approximately 300 others injured. This target, this targeted attack, rather, the office of the security team that works to protect government VIPs, an Afghan official says two a attackers were responsible, one was a suicide bomber, the other was killed by police.
CUOMO: The governor of Texas declaring a state of disaster, this deadly storm just drenching the entire plains region. You have flash floods, submerging cars across Houston. This came much faster and harder than they expected. You remember this man literally was stuck in his car, had to swim out. Emergency crews have been completely overburdened by this. They're asking surrounding states, community help to try to get more resources. You're seeing people taking to their own means to deal with this.
[08:15:00] Officials say some areas of Houston receiving more than 16 inches of rainfall, but remember, in just 24 hours, 16 inches in one day.
The good news, the storm is expected to weaken today and tonight.
BALDWIN: Also today, Bill Cosby's wife Camille answering more questions under oath. This will be her second deposition in a defamation lawsuit filed by seven women, who say they were branded as liars after going public with sexual assault allegations against her husband. The judge saying improper questions will not be allowed, including questions about private communications between the spouses. Cosby has repeatedly denied all allegations made by some 50 women.
PEREIRA: Need a laugh?
BALDWIN: Yes.
PEREIRA: That was awesome, you guys were totally in concert.
Here we go. Hillary Clinton ditching foreign policy and talking food. The Democratic front runner even got schooled on how to eat cheesecake -- I didn't know that was a thing --
CUOMO: Very big.
PEREIRA: -- by Stephen Colbert.
Watch.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
STEPHEN COLBERT, COMEDIAN/TV HOST: Your husband is a vegan. Any friction for you eating meat?
HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: No.
COLBERT: He is not a smug vegan?
CLINTON: He is not.
COLBERT: He never says that sandwich is somebody's baby. Nothing like that?
CLINTON: He doesn't say that. He is a very open-minded vegan.
COLBERT: Another grandchild on the way I understand.
CLINTON: That's absolutely true.
COLBERT: Congratulations.
CLINTON: It is so exciting.
COLBERT: Are you a cool grandma? Are you going to eat them whatever they want?
CLINTON: I'm going to be a little subversive?
COLBERT: How about your husband? Is he going to be cool grandpa?
CLINTON: He is so head over heels in love with our granddaughter.
COLBERT: But is he going to give them the snacks or is he going to go, great news, we've got kale chips?
(LAUGHTER)
COLBERT: Last week here in New York, you went to juniors, and you didn't have any cheesecake. Why not?
CLINTON: Well, it's awkward eating in front of the press.
COLBERT: There is a way to eat cheesecake without looking silly.
CLINTON: Will you show me?
COLBERT: I will. OK, first of all, use a fork.
CLINTON: Always good to use a fork.
COLBERT: You want to take off just a little bit off the top right here, and then just eat as much as you want.
(LAUGHTER)
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PEREIRA: That was awesome. I did not expect that. Can we talk about smug vegan? Do you know any smug vegan?
BALDWIN: Kale chips anyone?
CUOMO: I love him. I love the intelligence, the quick wit and how he gets these people, in character all the time. No offense to politicians.
(CROSSTALK)
PEREIRA: She was completely there. She was in it. She was having a grand time.
CUOMO: She was a great addition to the late night family.
You know who else is great addition to NEW DAY?
PEREIRA: Who's that?
CUOMO: Rudy Giuliani, former New York City mayor.
You? You've got your own show, you know? You got your own show.
Rudy Giuliani, he could have his own show. Look at him, sitting in the green room, looking good as always.
He says he is going to vote for Donald Trump, but he's not in the endorsement business. Rudy Giuliani, with his take on the primary in the great state of New York, when we come back.
Good to see you, Mr. Mayor.
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[08:21:25] CUOMO: New questions this morning about what's going on inside the Donald Trump campaign. There is a shake-up, no doubt about that. But how significant is this? What does it mean? And more importantly, what does today mean for Donald Trump, the all important primary here in New York. What does he need to do here? What will this mean for the race going forward. A man with great
perspective is here to give us some answers this morning -- the former mayor of New York City, Mr. Rudy Giuliani.
Mr. Mayor, good to see you as always.
RUDY GIULIANI, FORMER NEW YORK CITY MAYOR: Good morning.
CUOMO: Let's check some of the boxes here early on. You believe Donald Trump wins in New York, yes?
GIULIANI: I do. I believe he wins big. It's the question of how big.
CUOMO: OK, so let's put up the delegates needed tabulation, because the campaign is saying we can get to 1,237, the 50 percent plus one threshold, 62 percent he needs to win from here on out. He never gets that percentage of delegates.
GIULIANI: Well, look, if he wins New York, and picks up 80 to 90 delegates.
CUOMO: That number would go to 56 percent.
GIULIANI: OK, you're starting to get close. He is going to states where he is going to be really popular and Cruz is not. He's going to go to states like Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, places like that where he could hit 50 percent, 55 percent, 56 percent.
I also believe, if he is within 20 or 30 within the nomination, they have to give it to him.
CUOMO: That's not the rule.
GIULIANI: I know, but they've got to change other rules, so why not change that rule?
CUOMO: That's a pretty fundamental rule, though. Nobody knows rules like you. You were a U.S. attorney.
But I'm saying, you know, that's the magic number showing, you have the right percentage of 50 percent plus in delegates. That's not like a procedural rule.
GIULIANI: Well, I'm not so sure about that. You can be elected mayor of New York with 42 percent of the vote. I mean, there are plenty of places where pluralities, just because it is a rule, doesn't mean it's fair.
CUOMO: Do you think it's unfair?
GIULIANI: Do I think the way Trump is being treated is unfair?
CUOMO: Yes.
GIULIANI: When Trump wins a state and Cruz gets as many votes, of course, that's unfair.
CUOMO: Is that about it being to Trump? Is that just a system and knowing --
GIULIANI: Unfair.
CUOMO: -- how to work the system?
GIULIANI: It's unfair. Just because something is a rule doesn't make fair.
CUOMO: True. But just because it doesn't go your way, it doesn't make it unfair.
GIULIANI: Right. But if get three points for a basket and I get two, that's an unfair rule. It may be a rule.
CUOMO: Unless the rule you can work the delegates after the vote takes place.
GIULIANI: That's what this is all about. All that back room, I mean, I think you have all the Sanders votes and all the Trump votes, because they're disgusted with the back room politics that's been going on.
CUOMO: There's no question.
GIULIANI: And they have been fooled into thinking, because the voters don't know about all this silliness.
CUOMO: We're trying to show them but hard to get it through.
GIULIANI: They've been fooled into thinking that if Trump wins New York, he gets New York, or at least a proportionate amount of New York. They didn't know that some party leader comes along and takes 20 votes away. Nobody ever told them that. If you can change, like if Priebus changes the rules and allows Kasich in --
CUOMO: He does not accept that description. He would not say that, the rule 40(b), that was just for one convention. The rules committee will meet this time and figure out what rules they want.
GIULIANI: The rule has been unfair for 100 years, let's change it. I mean, the reality is, if the rule is unfair, and it's not just me saying this, you poll Republicans, six to seven out of 10 Republicans say, the man or woman with the most votes should be the nominee.
CUOMO: So, maybe you should scrap your whole delegate system?
GIULIANI: No, maybe we should make the votes of the delegates count and not have people in back rooms --
CUOMO: But who picks the delegates? You think whoever gets the vote, you should get --
[08:25:02] GIULIANI: Absolutely. Like the Electoral College. If I vote for Trump for president, that Electoral College vote is stuck with me.
CUOMO: For all rounds.
GIULIANI: Yes, that's a democracy. Seven out of 10 Republicans believe that the Republican with the most votes should get it. If you get within 5 or 10, then it starts to get totally ridiculous.
CUOMO: All right. I know you have lot of insight into the ongoing, what's going on inside the Trump campaign, that's not your role.
GIULIANI: It isn't, it isn't my role.
CUOMO: That's why I'm not asking you about what's going on with Lewandowski, who is in charge.
GIULIANI: I can tell you what's happening, just from the outside, as a nonparticipant of the inside of the campaign.
CUOMO: I want inside scoop, Mr. Mayor. I know you're smart.
GIULIANI: This is the change that was necessary.
CUOMO: Yes.
GIULIANI: To go from a campaign that was an insurgent campaign, campaign that was challenging everything, to a campaign that now has to become a national campaign. This always happens. Ronald Reagan did this, Bill Clinton did this. This happens all the time.
When you start moving a primary campaign, it's different than a general election campaign. Small state primary campaign, different than a big state primary campaign. So, I think he is trying to put the pieces in place that will help him with what lies ahead, which is the big states like California.
CUOMO: I have decided to give you a hard time about something.
GIULIANI: Go ahead.
CUOMO: It doesn't make sense to me that you are going to vote for Trump, but you won't endorse him.
GIULIANI: OK, so I'll endorse him, but I'm not part of the campaign.
CUOMO: What's the difference? I'm Rudy Giuliani, I mean a lot in New York politics.
GIULIANI: OK, I'm Rudy Giuliani --
CUOMO: I endorse Donald Trump.
GIULIANI: I'm Rudy Giuliani, I mean a lot in New York politics, I endorse Donald Trump, but I'm not part of the campaign.
CUOMO: I don't understand. What does that last part mean? GIULIANI: What does that mean is, I'm not a surrogate. They haven't
asked me to do anything. I'm not involved in the campaign. I'm not called upon to give advice, except a few times when I volunteered it.
I'm not part of the campaign apparatus. I don't want people to think I am.
CUOMO: How is that different than Mayor de Blasio saying, "I endorse Hillary Clinton"?
GIULIANI: I think he is parts of her organization. I'm not. If you want to interpret it as an endorsement --
CUOMO: You were really strict about it the last time.
GIULIANI: I'm really -- you can interpret it as an endorsement, but I'm not part of the campaign.
CUOMO: Isn't that odd?
GIULIANI: No.
CUOMO: I mean, if you heard me talking to somebody else about that and you saw on the street, and you'd be like, what was that about, endorsement, but not part of the organization?
GIULIANI: Just so you understand, I can't give you the information that you want about the -- I don't speak for the campaign.
If you endorse somebody, every time I've endorsed somebody, I've been part of the campaign, I speak for the campaign. But if you interpret that as an endorsement, it's an endorsement. Or if you interpret it in any way you shouldn't vote for Donald Trump, absolutely not.
Trump is clearly the best choice. He is the best choice for New York. He is the best choice for the country. He is the one who can beat Hillary Clinton.
Cruz is a straight over hand fastball for Hillary Clinton. She'll knock him out of the park. Trump, she'll have no idea what to do with. He is a Mariano Rivera --
CUOMO: The sand man. High praise from a Yankee fan. Are you saying Trump is the sand man?
GIULIANI: He is coming at you like this.
CUOMO: Wow.
GIULIANI: Cruz is coming at you like this. Democrats have been hitting very, very right wing Republicans like Cruz out of the ballpark for years.
CUOMO: You sure he's not more of a knuckle baller? (INAUDIBLE) in him?
GIULIANI: I haven't said knuckle ball, I haven't said screwball, I haven't said curve ball. I picked that on purpose.
CUOMO: I know you did. Mr. Mayor, thank you for the insight. I appreciate it.
All right. And the endorsement, although I think there is some room for that. We'll see what your fans say online.
(LAUGHTER)
CUOMO: What do you think? Should the delegate system be changed? Do you believe there is something wrong with those party rules? Tweet us @newday or post it on Facebook.com/newday.
Brooke?
BALDWIN: All right. Baseball fans, thank you both so much.
Meantime, the Sanders campaign making massive accusations about fundraising as New York voters are heading to the polls this morning. Secretary Clinton responding by calling the allegations baseless, shameful.
Up next, Sanders' campaign manager joins us and we will talk to our panel of amazing New York voters. We're going to talk specifically about the tone and tenor, all of these campaigns, Democrats, Republicans, and two of you this morning, still undecided on this primary day.
Stay here. You're watching NEW DAY.
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