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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I made a decision not to run for president.

[05:58:10] DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Lying' Ted. Lies. Oh, he lies.

SEN. TED CRUZ (R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Donald Trump is not getting to 1,237. Nobody is getting to 1,237.

TRUMP: It's a rigged system.

CRUZ: Donald right now is terrified.

GOV. JOHN KASICH (R-OH), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: If we pick these two guys, we are going to get creamed.

TRUMP: Hillary, you're fired.

HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: They want to turn the clock back on every right we have.

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (D-VT), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Don't tell me that we cannot transform this country.

CLINTON: It's not enough to diagnose the problem. You've got to know how to solve the problem.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The troubled state of U.S./Saudi relations.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have some critical, critical things we need to work out.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Saudi government has nothing to hide.

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ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo, Alisyn Camerota and Michaela Pereira.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning, welcome to NEW DAY. It's Thursday, April 21, 6 a.m. in the east. Alisyn is off. She's in Italy. And here we have Brianna Keilar.

MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: Hi, Brianna. BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN ANCHOR: Good to be with you on this beautiful

spring day. It's very early. I will say that.

CUOMO: It is. Same time every day. It's weird. Very weird.

Up first, Donald Trump back at it again. The Republican frontrunner back to his taunting rhetoric. Crooked Hillary. Lying' Ted. Just hours after sounding more presidential. His closest rival, Senator Ted Cruz, declaring the fight for the GOP nomination definitely going to a contested convention. This as Cruz and John Kasich try to woo RNC members at the party's spring meeting in Florida.

KEILAR: And on the Democratic side, Hillary Clinton looking to seal the deal in next Tuesday's northeast primaries. Bernie Sanders' campaign is at a crossroads, back on the campaign trail today after a day of recharging in Vermont. Sanders -- Sanders, I should say, vowing to keep fighting all the way to the convention.

We've got the 2016 race covered only the way that CNN can. Let's begin now with Jason Carroll -- Jason.

JASON CARROLL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Brianna, it could be said Trump was just being himself, Trump touching on some familiar scenes last night, ones that we've heard before out of the campaign trail, ones that resonate with his supporters: building that wall in Mexico, bringing back jobs; and yes, the name calling was back, too.

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TRUMP: We've got Lying' Ted. We have Crooked Hillary.

CARROLL (voice-over): Donald Trump back at it.

TRUMP: I'd love running against Crooked Hillary.

In the case of Lyin' Ted Cruz, Lying' Ted, lies. Oh, he lies.

CARROLL: Reviving some of his favorite nicknames less than 24 hours after delivering a more measured victory speech in New York.

TRUMP: I thought it would be very undignified for me to get up at that particular moment.

CARROLL: The Republican frontrunner doing a victory lap in Indiana and Maryland Wednesday and continuing to rail against the Republican primary process.

TRUMP: So it's a rigged system. It's rigged for the lobbyists. It's rigged for the donors, and it's rigged for the special interests.

CARROLL: Reince Priebus fighting back again.

REINCE PRIEBUS, CHAIR, RNC: It's not a rigged system. In fact, the rules are clear. I'm not going to do anything to help anyone, and I'm not going to do anything to hurt anybody.

CARROLL: Priebus insisting that he's enjoying preparing for a potential contested convention.

PRIEBUS: I think people assume you must be miserable. I'm not pouring Bailey's in my cereal. I'm not sitting here trying to find the Johnny Walker. I mean, this is -- this is fun.

CARROLL: Republican Party leaders sitting down with both Ted Cruz and John Kasich Wednesday night as Cruz's irritation with Kasich boiled over on the campaign trail.

CRUZ: John Kasich has no path whatsoever to the nomination. Now, it may be that John is auditioning to be Trump's vice president, but a Trump/Kasich ticket loses to Hillary Clinton.

CARROLL: Kasich defending his decision to stay in the race in an interview with CNN.

KASICH: If he's so sure of that, why is he attacking me all the time? All I know is, if we pick these two guys, according to virtually all the polls, we are going to get creamed.

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CARROLL: You know, you hear from Trump's critics over and over again, to be more presidential, to stop all the name calling, but when you speak to his supporters, they tell you that they like it when he's out there being himself, speaking in plain language and name calling, if you will. So look for more of the same, at least out when he's doing his rallies -- Brianna, Chris.

CUOMO: All right, Jason Carroll.

Let's bring in CNN political analyst and host of "The David Gregory Show" podcast, David Gregory himself; CNN political commentator and political anchor of Time Warner Cable News, Errol Louis.

Errol, good to have you here this morning; David, as well. So let's discuss the state of play.

Nobody is surprised that Donald Trump went back to name calling. The question is, what's the theory for him now in terms of energizing the base versus expanding past it?

ERROL LOUIS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: My sense of it is that he is who he is, very much as his campaign likes to say. I mean, this is somebody who's -- you know, 69 years old. He's going to turn 70 in June. This is a finished product, to a certain extent; and he's going to continue with what has worked for him. I think there's no reason to assume otherwise.

I keep seeing headline after headline. Trump 2.0. He's going to moderate. He's going to be presidential. He's going to pivot. It never happens. So we've been watching this now for six months. I'm assuming that he's going to do what has worked for him.

And the people who are in the "never Trump" or the "anybody but Trump" or the "stop Trump" movement, I think they're going to have every reason to continue. Because the things that they don't like about him -- the bombast, the nicknames, the insults, the petty childish behavior -- it's going to absolutely continue.

KEILAR: And you're seeing, David, both of these candidates, the front-runners here, Donald Trump and Ted Cruz, making the case for themselves, not surprising, right? Donald Trump says, "The Cruz spin machine produces more lies than anything else. Our projections call for us to accumulate over 1,400 delegates and thus the first ballot nomination win in Cleveland."

But you have Ted Cruz saying there's no way anyone is getting to this all important number of 1,237. Who's right?

DAVID GREGORY, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Well, we don't know. I mean, certainly, that campaign internal memo was spin. It's an argument, and Cruz is making an argument.

Cruz may be closer to the truth here. As we've been saying over these past few days, I think it's quite possible that Trump gets there or close.

Now, you know, it's tough for him to get to 1,237. He can do it, but I think it's certainly possible that he gets close. And then how close is close enough? Because one of the things that -- and I agree with Errol here, which is that Trump is not changing. He's tacking a little bit. He's trying to mature his campaign a little bit, act a little more mature on the campaign trail, because he's now auditioning for those wavering delegates. He is trying to make the case that "No, I really can win in the fall. I really am serious. You can pledge my way."

So that's his audition or him wooing these delegates now for a floor fight to suggest that he can do this.

But look, I think that Cruz is close to being right, too, in that we could, in fact, be headed toward someone being shy of 1,237 and then, you know, we get to the open convention that we've been talking about.

CUOMO: We're in -- we're in the realm of complete double speak right now. Not Gregory. He's straight as an arrow, but you know, when you look at the math, what percent do you need? We were talking about this right before the show.

Trump needs 58 percent of the remaining delegates to get to 1,237. That's a percentage he's not winning.

KEILAR: He's doing 47 percent.

CUOMO: That's right.

KEILAR: Right? This is...

CUOMO: So why do he think he's getting to 14? Because what they believe is, according to people around him, that what will happen is, once these last dominos start to fall, starting with New York, the margins will get bigger because people will realize it's a foregone conclusion.

What's also double speak here, Errol Louis, is Ted Cruz all of a sudden changed his logic about who should stay in the race and who shouldn't. With John Kasich, he was saying mathematically you can't win.

LOUIS: Right.

CUOMO: He's now saying, "Mathematically, I can't win, but I'm going to stay in, because I don't think anyone can win mathematically." What's going on here?

LOUIS: Kind of funny how that works, right? Look, another version of it with Donald Trump. Right? He says, "Well, look, I'm not getting anything near the share of the vote that I got. I'm not getting any delegates."

In New York he over-performed. He gets 60 percent of the vote but then 90 percent of the delegates. No complaint from Donald Trump. So they're obviously all sort of jockeying, maneuvering. I think Ted Cruz clearly is in is same camp as what Kasich is saying openly, which is that the goal is to get to a convention to stop anybody from having enough to get the nomination on a first ballot and then to bargain and see what can develop.

CUOMO: But don't you remember when, Brianna, when they were saying just a few weeks ago, "Ted Cruz, hey, if we go to a convention and boy, the people you -- you upset the will of the people," remember all that? The terrible and then Trump was saying riots?

Isn't Cruz making the case for Trump when he says that? The will of the people. Right? Trump is going to be well ahead by the time you get there. You know, I don't understand what the rationales are now.

GREGORY: But part of this, too, is that, for a time, I think Cruz and Kasich looked at each other and said, "OK, well if we can bide to stop Trump, it's all good. Let's get to the open convention."

Cruz is now in that same position as Kasich. But the problem is, you know, in terms of the alternative, he has to divide that vote. He doesn't like that anymore, which is why he'd like him out of the way. He'd like a one on one shot with Trump at this point. Bigger field, better for Trump.

And I think your point, Chris, Trump is now at least in the position to try to argue, "Hey, look, this is inevitable." And what does he have on his side? He's got some momentum, not just from New York, but from this northeastern corridor where he can start to rack up some of these delegates and even if nothing changes, even it's still hard for him to get to 1,237, it starts to feel more like it's -- it's inevitable that he becomes the nominee. That's -- that's what he wants those wavering delegates to be thinking about and put more distance between him and Cruz.

KEILAR: But maybe one of the certainly institutions he may not have on his side is the RNC. It makes you wonder, this is what we're hearing from a top aide there at the RNC, Sean Spicer. Listen to this.

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SEAN SPICER, TOP AIDE TO RNC: It takes 1,237 delegates to pass any order of business, and I think we've got to remember that. There's no other time that we would ever say, whether it's politics or sports, "Hey, if you get to the two-yard line, well, that counts as a touchdown." That's just not how the rules work. That's the process.

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KEILAR; OK. So maybe if you don't get to the -- if you don't get to the, you know, you don't get to the end zone, you're not going to win a touchdown, but do you really give the game to the guy who only got to the 40-yard line? Right?

LOUIS: Well, maybe you do. I mean, because what the rules call for is if you get to, say, the 2-yard-line, then you have to have a discussion. You have to go and talk to the other delegates. You have to go and get them on to your side. You have to do what happened in the Republican convention in 1976 and offer them some of this and some of that. You get a pretty wide range of what you can offer them, like a shot at being vice president or, you know, a night in the Lincoln bedroom or whatever it might be. And we're going to see a lot of that, presumably leading up to and possibly at the convention.

KEILAR: Can definitely see Donald Trump settling for a night in the Lincoln Bedroom.

GREGORY: Gerald Ford offered invitations to state dinners and, as much as Donald Trump is saying that he would never wine and dine people or go to Mar-a-Lago or, you know, offer a ride on the Trump jet, I think he just might, under the guise of -- between California and the convention in Cleveland, saying, "Look, I want some time with these delegates to convince them of the rightness of my cause and my ability to beat Hillary Clinton." So I don't take any of that at face value, saying he won't try to woo delegates.

CUOMO: It's so interesting. As we get closer to the most critical moment, we're hearing less and less about why any of these guys should be president above and beyond winning. You know what I mean? I haven't heard a policy idea coming out of any of these guys in weeks now.

But it's all about what's going to happen between now and the convention; and we'll have the best three words in the language on our side. We will see.

[06:10:04] Errol Louis, David Gregory, thank you very much, as always. We'll see you back in just a second, but first...

PEREIRA: Hey, let's talk about the Democrats. Bernie Sanders returning to the campaign trail after his bruising loss to Hillary Clinton in New York. With his campaign at a crossroads, how does he plan to rebound? Meanwhile, team Clinton also revealing surprising details about her

V.P., short list including the possibility of an all-female ticket. CNN's Suzanne Malveaux is live in Hartford, Connecticut, where Clinton is stumping today.

Hi, Suzanne.

SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Michaela.

Might be a little premature to talk about a running mate, but hey, you know, that's what a lot of people are actually talking about. Hillary Clinton would say it is too early. She's not yet the nominee, but her own chairman, John Podesta, said yes, there would be a woman on that short list. Some talking about Senator Elizabeth Warren, the perfect person to bridge the gap to the Bernie Sanders supporters.

But both candidates, Clinton and Bernie Sanders, saying, "Wait, there's still very much a fight for the nomination."

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MALVEAUX (voice-over): Hillary Clinton wasting little time courting voters before the next round of Super Tuesday contests.

CLINTON: Here I am in Pennsylvania, because I really want to work as hard as we can together for the next week to get a good result on April 26.

MALVEAUX: Protesters calling for Clinton to pardon all prisoners convicted of a result of a controversial 1994 Crime Bill, reaching out to African-American voters. Secretary Clinton boldly assessing race relations during a gun violence event at the historic St. Paul's Baptist Church.

CLINTON: We all have implicit biases. They are in, almost, the DNA going back probably millennia, times. And what we need to do is be more honest about that and surface them.

MALVEAUX: Clinton is garnering high praise from the mother of Sandra Bland, who said she supported Clinton. Clinton reached out to her after Bland was found hanged in a Texas jail.

GENEVA REED-VEAL, SANDRA BLAND'S MOTHER: When you're openly grieving and the secretary of state steps to you, you better endorse her, because she already endorsed you.

MALVEAUX: While Clinton forges ahead, rival Bernie Sanders seemingly at a crossroads, a 16-point defeat in New York sending the Vermont senator home to recharge for the day, but Sanders is not backing down.

SANDERS: We believe we have the momentum, and we believe we have a path toward victory.

MALVEAUX: The question: will Sanders come out swinging or will he soften his attacks against Clinton during his first day back on the trail? HILARY ROSEN, CNN POLITICAL CONTRIBUTOR: Bernie Sanders is still

going to be on the campaign trail, still going to be trashing her, doing a lot of things that will not be particularly helpful for Democrats, but I think he'll do it anyway because he really wants to win.

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MALVEAUX: And later today, Clinton is going to be here at this YMCA. She's going to be meeting with the families of victims of gun violence, including those who lost their little ones, their children, in the Sandy Hook Elementary School. She is going to be emphasizing that, really a contrast to Bernie Sanders. At least their campaign feels it is a winning issue regarding that.

As far as Bernie Sanders, he is going to be in Pennsylvania making three stops. And I am told very much, Brianna, that he is not going to be holding back, that he is very much still in the fight.

KEILAR: All right. That's what we would expect, I guess, from Bernie Sanders. All right. Suzanne Malveaux in Connecticut with Hillary Clinton. Thank you.

President Obama speaking with leaders of Gulf countries this morning after receiving a chilly welcome in Saudi Arabia. The White House insisting the president cleared the air with Saudis in a two-hour meeting with King Salman. Now CNN White House correspondent Michelle Kosinski is live for us in Riyadh with more.

Hi, Michelle.

MICHELLE KOSINSKI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Brianna.

President Obama will be meeting with leaders of the Gulf Cooperation Council today. He'll be speaking later. And as you can imagine, big subjects here are ISIS and regional security. How do you expand the defense capabilities of these countries together and ultimately expand their contributions to the fight against ISIS? That's not going to happen overnight, but overall, the White House says that they see a positive trend in dealing with these countries, especially since now there are ceasefires in both Syria and Yemen.

In fact, the White House walked away from the bilateral meeting with the Saudi king yesterday feeling really good about it. Even though the king did not meet President Obama at the airport when he arrived, some saw that as a snub. The White House said this was an unusual meeting. They don't remember having one with the Saudis quite like this. It was more than two hours long. It was broad, not perfunctory, they say, as these things can sometimes be.

They're calling it a big clearing of the air on many of the issues that have caused such tension between these countries. Not to say that there were solutions arrived at among all these differences that still exist, but at the very least, the White House sees some progress in this important, but extremely complicated relationship.

CUOMO: All right, Michelle. Thank you very much.

In other news, emergency officials in Mexico are investigating the cause of a massive chemical plant explosion in Veracruz. Plumes of thick black smoke continue to hover over the site, where at least three workers were killed, dozens injured on Wednesday. The plant is owned by the Mexican oil company Pemex.

[06:15:18] Now, here's part of the controversy here. This situation on your TV screen comes just weeks after a fire on an oil processing platform killed three workers in the Gulf of Mexico.

PEREIRA: The office of Mitsubishi motors was raided following allegations that they falsified fuel economy testing results on over 600,000 vehicles. Authorities ordering Mitsubishi executives make a full report on the testing irregularities by next week. That scandal caused the carmaker's stock to drop 35 percent in the last few days.

KEILAR: Women, civil rights groups and Hollywood heavyweights praising the most sweeping change in currency in history. Former slave and abolitionist Harriet Tubman will be the new face of the $20 bill. She'll replace former president and slave owner Andrew Jackson. Abe Lincoln and Andrew Hamilton will stay on the $5 and $10 bills, but scenes involving women and civil rights leaders will be added. The final redesign will be unveiled in 2020.

PEREIRA: Black Twitter is sounding off on it. They said yes, just in time for a cashless society. But Tamron Hall gets it best: it's all about the Harriets.

KEILAR: I love it.

PEREIRA: I agree.

CUOMO: It's a nice change to see.

All right. So Hillary Clinton reportedly assembling a list of possible running mates just in case she clinches the nomination soon. Would there be a woman on the list for vice president? Imagine if there were not. Next.

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KEILAR: The road to the Democratic nomination goes through delegate- rich Pennsylvania and four other Northeast states holding primaries next Tuesday.

Bernie Sanders returns to the campaign trail today. His campaign now at a crossroads after losing big in New York. How will his message change today and will he retool his strategy?

Let's bring back now David Gregory and Errol Louis. Let's just look at the map. This is what I want to look at. Bernie Sanders is insisting that he still has a path to the nomination when it comes to pledged delegates, so let's look at what he would need to do here in the coming days. First off, when you include the super delegates he is losing by over

700 delegates. When you just look at the pledged delegates he is losing by almost 300.

And check this out. How would he have to perform? He would have to win 82 percent of the remaining delegates. Hillary Clinton would only need to win 32 percent. So Errol, to you, what is he saying?

LOUIS: Well...

KEILAR: You're looking at the map. This completely disproves what he's saying. So break that down for us.

LOUIS: The first thing, if you talk to Sanders's supporters, first of all, they back out the super delegates, and so the pledged delegate count is a little bit different. And the way they run the map is that Hillary Clinton would need 66 percent of all of the remaining pledged delegates.

KEILAR: Sure, but she's favored in Pennsylvania. She's favored in Maryland. These are the delegate-rich states here on Tuesday.

LOUIS: But she hasn't been making those kind of super majority. Sixty-six percent is pretty -- that's pretty serious stuff. You know...

CUOMO: Is that the right metric? You know the super delegates count, you know what I'm saying?

LOUIS: But you know some of the super delegates. The super delegates do not want to be the deciding factor. I mean, you know, some of these folks are, you know, retired governors and retired senators. They don't want to cast the deciding vote when it wasn't clear that she got past the post.

So -- and I don't -- frankly, I don't think the Clinton campaign wants to win it that way either. I mean, they'll do it if they have to, but all of this, just the thing on the Republican side is create a sense of inevitability after which the other candidates will sort of, you know, throw in their cards and sort of back the frontrunner.

But there's no sign that Bernie Sanders is going to do that any time soon. Maybe it happens at the convention. Maybe it happens in California, but he's not ready to give up.

CUOMO: You were around the campaign all the time, Brianna, and they do have a cool confidence about this, the team Clinton. They say they're going to get there, but they don't wave it in your face. You know? What do you think they're saying?

KEILAR: I think that they're dealing with the fact that they have a candidate who didn't get out until June, you know. So she doesn't really have a leg to stand on in telling Bernie Sanders to get out. And look at the money. He's got so much more money than she does.

CUOMO: You think they have a concern they're going to convention? KEILAR: I think they're probably prepared for it, but I think

ultimately, they think they'll prevail.

CUOMO: See, David Gregory, I have that asset here. I have co-anchor, slash analyst. She actually knows stuff. It's a very nice compliment to me, who has to ask people like you all the time.

So Bernie Sanders on the other side of this, Jeff Weaver saying, "Well, we don't know that she's going to get to that number." The super delegates are going to have to take a look, to Errol's point.

But you get to this point, what does Bernie Sanders look? What is victory for him, if not to get the nomination? Is there anything else?

GREGORY: Well, first of all, I mean, as you said a minute ago, we're in double speak time. We are just in pure spin and argument mode here about the mechanics of accruing delegates on both sides, Republicans and Democrats, and I think that's what Sanders is involved in doing.

What I think is clear about Sanders, he obviously wants to do everything he can to win. But I think he wants to stay in. And I think he has the ability, as Brianna was just saying, to stay in all the way, even to the convention. You go back to 1980 like Senator Kennedy. Ted Kennedy, does he want to hear -- does he, Sanders, want to deny Clinton that unity picture in the party at the convention?

My hunch is he does not want to deny her that, that he does want to fall in line. But he has an independent base of support; he has an independent movement that he wants to keep going, I think, after this race. Maybe not for another presidential run. But certainly as an independent base of support.

And his impact has already been huge. The energy in the party has already been huge. He wants to keep that going. So it's for Hillary Clinton to try to reach out to his voters and try to find a way to keep him involved in a constructive way.

I don't know that she's fully arrived at doing that. And there's no question, they've got to be annoyed at the idea of both his tone and the idea that he wants to stay in through California, because that both can weaken her with some voters that she needs and prevents her from fully turning to Republicans.

[06:25:13] KEILAR: When you look at New York, I think the Clinton campaign feels that they did very well here, in part because of Bernie Sanders's more moderate stance on guns. You see the Clinton campaign, obviously, with Connecticut where Sandy Hook happened.

CUOMO: Fifty-five delegates there, too.

KEILAR: That's right. And so this is one of the ads that Hillary Clinton's campaign is now playing in Connecticut and Rhode Island.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My mom was the principal of Sandy Hook school. She was murdered trying to protect the children in her care from a gunman.

No one is fighting harder to reform our gun laws than Hillary Clinton. She is the only candidate that has what it takes to take on the gun lobby. She reminds me of my mother. She isn't scared of anything.

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KEILAR: You said looking at pledge delegates. That's a very emotional ad. That is something that is going to hit right here for many people in Connecticut. She needs to -- when it comes to the pledged delegates get a super majority. Is it something like this that could deliver that for her in Connecticut?

LOUIS: Something like that. I mean, I'm watching that for the first time. That's a real gut punch. You know, if you look at what Bernie Sanders comes back with, and he says, "Well, somebody who owns a gun store shouldn't be held responsible," and -- it has nowhere near the kind of appeal, the raw emotional appeal of something like that. So it's going to be a problem for him.

I mean, he's not going to just have a challenge, as he has throughout, getting people of color and getting some of the older voters to come with him, but in this case, this is sort of a central narrative of what's going on in Connecticut.

GREGORY: Can I -- can I just say what's interesting about that -- we point this out last week, Chris -- remember, this on gun laws and gun politics, this was a complete flip between Sanders and Clinton.

Remember he said, "Well, look, you have to be realistic about what you can get passed." Gun rights and gun laws seem to be the only area where he wants to be a pragmatic politician.

This is a stroke of idealism on the part of Hillary Clinton, who fully understands how difficult it is to get meaningful gun safety measures passed through Congress. But I think this is not only reaching out to her base, to minority voters, but also to younger voters, who are more idealistic about keeping this fight up. So I think this is about these Northeastern primaries, but I think it's a bigger push to try to reach those voters -- younger voters who have been for Sanders.

CUOMO: I mean, look, we don't usually show ads, you know, unless there's something controversial about them. But Newtown happening in Connecticut and this issue being used the way it was, there's no question -- Brianna is right -- it was used by a stick by the Clinton people in New York state. It's going to be big in Connecticut, as well.

All right. Errol, David, thank you very much -- Michaela.

GREGORY: Thanks.

PEREIRA: All right. Three government employees have been criminally charged for their alleged role in the Flint water crisis. One of them facing jail time, accused of falsifying lab test results. You'll hear more about this, coming up next on NEW DAY.

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