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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Cruz and Kasich have just joined forces. That's called collusion.

[05:59:11] HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I hear the reckless rhetoric. Deeply troubling.

SEN. TED CRUZ (R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I would ask Governor Kasich's supporters to stand with us.

TRUMP: Lying' Ted and Kasich. We call him 1 for 41.

GOV. JOHN KASICH (R-OH), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The Trump people are very desperate, fearful.

CRUZ: I understand that Donald will whine. That's what he does.

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (D-VT), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: There's something wrong when the American dream in the year 2016 is dying.

CLINTON: No matter what our differences might be, they pale in comparison to the Republicans.

TRUMP: Look at Kasich. It's disgusting. Do you want that for your president? I don't think so.

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ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo, Alisyn Camerota and Michaela Pereira.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: What are you laughing at?

MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: You two.

CUOMO: Good morning. Welcome to your NEW DAY. It's Tuesday -- Super Tuesday, in fact, April 26, 6 a.m. in the East. Voters are heading to the polls, five northeast states up for grabs, hundreds of delegates, as well. The front-runners, Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, looking strong.

The real story now is the desperation among opponents. Ted Cruz and John Kasich with this plan to work together. Guess what? It's already showing signs of faltering. ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: Hmm. Shocking.

Clinton, meanwhile, suggesting that if she wins big tonight, it will leave little room for Sanders to go on. What does Bernie Sanders think about that? The Vermont senator will join us live in our 7 a.m. hour. Also, throughout the morning, he'll be talking to our panel of northeast voters who are standing by in our studio, as you can see about their feelings on the 2016 race.

We have Super Tuesday No. 4, covered the way only CNN can. So let's begin with Jim Acosta. He is live in Philadelphia. Good morning, Jim.

JIM ACOSTA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Alisyn. Donald Trump's campaign isn't worried about the outcome of today's primaries. The GOP frontrunner is heavily favored to pull off a big sweep of these states across the northeast that are up for grabs but an alliance past form (ph) that has caught Trump's attention, a deal that could slow his march to the nomination.

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TRUMP: Lyin' Ted. Not...

ACOSTA (voice-over): Sensing an opportunity in the new alliance between Ted Cruz and John Kasich, Donald Trump isn't just smelling blood. He's going in for the kill. A double-barreled attack on both Cruz.

TRUMP: You know, he's a joker. He cannot do it. So he said, "Let me form a partnership, which I call -- what do we call it? It's called collusion, folks.

ACOSTA: And Kasich.

TRUMP: He's like a spoiled guy, Kasich. "I'm not getting out, Mom. I'm not getting out."

ACOSTA: Trump even ridiculed Kasich's eating habits as unpresidential.

TRUMP: Then you see him eating in the morning. Did you ever see -- I have never seen. He's stuffing pancakes in his mouth like this.

CRUZ: He has no answer. How do you bring jobs back to America, beyond just printing it on a baseball cap.

ACOSTA: With a few one-liners of his own, Cruz is arguing to his supporters the name of the game is denying Trump the magic number of delegates needed to clinch the nomination, which is why Cruz is planning to focus on Indiana, where he's stronger, while yielding New Mexico and Oregon to the Ohio governor.

CRUZ: What that means is that Indiana gets a straight and direct choice between our campaign and Donald Trump. ACOSTA: But by Monday afternoon, the Cruz/Kasich alliance was already

showing signs of strain, with Kasich refusing to explicitly tell his Indiana supporters to vote for Cruz over him.

KASICH: I don't tell voters anything. I'm out there campaigning, and it speaks for itself.

ACOSTA: Stressing that he has his own strategy to see through, to stay alive until the party meets for its convention this summer.

KASICH: Look, I'd like to see an open convention. Ted Cruz would like to see an open convention, and I think Trump would not. Because he's afraid if he goes to an open convention, he's got no chance of winning.

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ACOSTA: Now, a Trump adviser tells me the Cruz-Kasich plan could have an impact on Indiana but not on the overall race for the nomination.

Now, Trump, as for what lies ahead, he has a tricky balancing act to pull off. He's both trying to calm the nerves of party regulars while at the same time, he is seeking to win this nomination before any kind of convention. That is contested, of course.

All of which explains why he's delivering a serious foreign policy speech Wednesday morning before racing off to Indiana to stop this Cruz-Kasich deal from actually working.

And, guys, after what we heard yesterday on the campaign trail, we may all never eat pancakes the same again. Who would have thought we'd be talking about pancakes and how people eat pancakes during the course of a presidential campaign?

CAMEROTA: You've given us a lot of food for thought. Thank you. You know what? I'm just starting.

Let's discuss all of this with CNN political analyst and host of "The David Gregory Show" podcast, David Gregory; CNN political commentator and political anchor of Time Warner Cable News, Errol Louis; and CNN Politics executive editor Mark Preston.

Mark, let's talk about this fraying alliance between Kasich and Cruz. Did it ever exist? Is it over? What's happening?

MARK PRESTON, CNN POLITICS EXECUTIVE EDITOR: I don't think anything can fray if it never really existed. You know, this was such an interesting and, quite frankly, might be one of the worst rollouts of any kind of alliance when it comes to politics.

They released paper on Sunday night. The next morning, the candidates don't even seem to be onboard with it. John Kasich saying that he wants voters in Indiana to continue to vote for him. Ted Cruz says that John Kasich is basically leaving the race. And at the end of the day, we're all more confused about what's really happening.

CUOMO: Well put. Errol Louis, anything you can compare this to that we've seen before and its net effect?

ERROL LOUIS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: The level of confusion is not something I've ever seen before. You know, just to add to what Mark was saying, you've got a pro-Cruz running ads against Kasich in Indiana, where this alliance is supposed to be sort of at its most potent.

So, you know, look, what it demonstrates, I think, to people who fully understand this, as much as we talk about the establishment, and the machine, and this organization that's out there, they're not that organized. It's not operating like a machine. And for an establishment, it doesn't seem to able to pull off even a fairly simple kind of political strategy. Mitt Romney was talking about this months ago. Figure out what you can do, and do everything you can to stop Trump, if that's how you feel. There are a lot of people who seem to feel that way but can't seem to turn it into anything real.

[06:05:25] CAMEROTA: Right. They're trying to stop Trump, but they're also trying to marshal their own resources. I mean, Kasich was...

CUOMO: Husband Kasich, keep saying. They're husbanding their resources. Husband resources.

CAMEROTA: I do like that.

So basically, you know, how to best spend the little money that he has going forward. They're still doing that. Right? I mean, he's still going to focus on Oregon and New Mexico and not Indiana.

GREGORY: Right. But if you're looking for a clean result, you're really trying to capitalize on where you might have more strength in Cruz and vice versa, then you would really commit to this.

Here, when Kasich is saying, "Look, if you want to vote for me, you should vote for me," then you're not doing everything you could do to potentially stop Trump, which is so important. Because if Trump can win big today and win in a conservative state like Indiana, it's very difficult to stop him, even if he's short of 1,237.

You know, I think part of the problem is that both Kasich and Cruz, especially Cruz does not want Kasich to win, because he's barely won anything and he's really not in a position to claim any sort of prize here. And I think that's what the fraying is.

CUOMO: Where's the good? This is all bad. I mean, bad for Ted Cruz, because he was saying the exact opposite of this, you know, in his great litigator fashion just, like, a month ago. You know what I mean? "Forget a convention. It's not about a convention. Don't do that to the people. I would never comply with these guys. Don't toss me" -- so that's bad for him.

Bad for the process, because what does this -- what does this combining of the -- to keep somebody else out? I've heard nothing positive about this on the streets. Like, when people come up to us and talk about the rates, nobody likes this. Do you like it, Preston? PRESTON: I'll tell you who likes it. It's really good for Donald

Trump. Right?

CUOMO: He loves it.

PRESTON: That's the good.

CUOMO: He loves it. He's a victim, which is what he's always wanted to be.

PRESTON: He is a victim. He's a victim in this whole entire process. I mean, for him to be able to go out and use words like "collusion," which is a very potent, explosive word; saying that the system is rigged, which he has been saying, you know, for the past couple of months.

CUOMO: It is now, by definition, rigged. They're rigging it on purpose.

PRESTON: No, but it's not illegal. OK? I mean, what they're doing is playing politics at the hardball level. Well, they're playing politics at the hardball level. Right? I'll use a baseball analogy here. However, it's like they're on the Whiffle ball field, and they can't even hit the ball.

CUOMO: Ooh, that's a strong analogy.

GREGORY: You know, Kasich makes the argument Donald Trump doesn't want an open convention. We do. I mean, Kasich has very little standing in this whole process. Donald Trump, it's actually -- it's possible for him to win the nomination. These guys, they can't win it on the straight-up and just by voters who they want to get to an open convention. So it does ring a bit hollow.

CAMEROTA: Errol, in addition to the word "collusion," Donald Trump is also using other words not often heard on the campaign trail. Weak, pathetic. Let me play for what you he said yesterday at a rally.

CUOMO: Pancakes.

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TRUMP: How pathetic is it when they use collusion? How weak does this make them look? I said to my people, "That's great. It's going to make them look weak and pathetic," which they are, as a politician.

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CAMEROTA: That's a message that might stick, or no?

GREGORY: Well, it will certainly stick with Trump supporters. I think they believed that all along. But it really sort of underscores how unusual a moment we're in. You don't normally hear that kind of rhetoric from somebody in the position that Donald Trump is in. And as he's doing this and he's talking about disgusting and how people eat, people's looks and so forth, what we're not talking about, of course, is you know, the economy. We're not talking about sort of some of the crazy comments he's made

about nuclear policy that's still sort of hanging out there.

We've got troops now committed to go back into the Middle East. A really important development that really cries out for some kind of conversation. Donald Trump talking about pancakes.

GREGORY: I actually think he had something of an opportunity. If he has another big night tonight, if he gives something of an effective speech on foreign policy, there are more and more Republicans who might grudgingly say, "All right, you know, we can handle this, him as being the nominee." That's what's really death for Cruz and Kasich. The more Republicans who say, "OK, I might hold my nose a bit, but we can -- we can go for this."

CUOMO: What do we expect to come out of these five states tonight? What do you think, Preston?

PRESTON: It's going to be a great night for Donald Trump. And I think there's one number that we should focus on. That number is 54. These are the unpledged delegates in the state of Pennsylvania. They are basically two races tonight in Pennsylvania. It's the beauty contest race for whoever can win the state, state-wide. You're going to pick up somewhere between 15 to 17 delegates. And then there's 54 delegates. Basically these folks are running as individual campaigns themselves. And I've been told, whether we'll see, if it comes to fruition, is that the Trump campaign in the last six or seven days has really gone in hard, and they're to make up for ground that they've lost, because they really had no delegate operation in that state.

CAMEROTA: And there you go,, Errol. That's the part. Is it rigged or is it strategic? Now they're operating in a more strategic fashion that they missed opportunities in the past?

LOUIS: Right. And they're using words like "rigged." What it means is right. He's behind in organizing. He doesn't understand the process or didn't take the time to master the process or hire somebody who has.

And so, you know, you kind of -- you've got to dismiss the entire process, which of course, his followers will sort of say, "Yes, the whole process doesn't work."

[06:10:14] Now, we'll see a whole different tone, I think, if he gets closer to 1,237, all of the sudden, it will be unity, it will be "The rules are the rules." It will be "We're one big Republican Party and I, Donald Trump, should be the head of it." Let's see if he can pull it off.

GREGORY: The interesting thing is how much time he's lost. I mean, if he were to come up short of 1,237 by, say, 50 delegates and lost that much, because he didn't get right on the delegate math here, that is, as David Plouffe, who ran the Obama campaign said, that is political malpractice. This would be a totally unforced error.

CAMEROTA: But they would still then, it would be likely that he would get the nomination.

GREGORY: We don't know.

CAMEROTA: In other words, he...

GREGORY: We don't know. He could.

CUOMO: I mean, you know, if they went into it just as it is, he has a presumptive argument. But what we've been hearing again and again from all reaches of that party, the rules are what they are. If you can't get to that number that means that you have not gotten 50 plus 1 percent of the field, and that means we basically start again. And they've been saying that straight on through.

GREGORY: Right. But you also can -- you are pledged in some states like Florida, you're pledged, I think, through the third ballot. So I mean, it's not like if you lose...

CUOMO: Every state -- he's right. Errol's right, the word "rigged" is the wrong word to use. Because nothing of this has been done by design because of Trump. But these rules are confusing, at least.

CAMEROTA: Thank goodness we have you here. Panel, stick around. We want to talk about the Democrats in one moment. But let's get over to Michaela.

PEREIRA: I will talk about the Democratic now -- Democrats now. Let's take a look at Hillary Clinton. She's hoping a big sweep in the northeast tonight will allow her to close the door on Bernie Sanders' campaign. Her focus is shifting more and more to Donald Trump in the general election. What will a big night for her mean to Sanders' future?

Our Chris Frates is live in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania. Good morning, Chris.

CHRIS FRATES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey, good morning, Mick, and welcome to Super Tuesday, the quatro. Polls open here in Pennsylvania in about an hour, with 189 delegates up for grabs tonight. It's the biggest prize of all five states voting today.

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SANDERS: You have an enormously important Democratic primary.

FRATES (voice-over): Today's high-stakes primaries have Bernie Sanders calming for his supporters to turn out.

SANDERS: If you come out to vote, grab your friends, your aunts and your uncles, your co-workers, we're going to win here in Pennsylvania.

FRATES: With nearly 400 delegates up for grabs, Hillary Clinton could widen her delegate lead and help effectively close the door on Sanders.

CLINTON: You vote for me tomorrow, I will stand up and fight for you. FRATES: On the stump, Clinton is already looking past her Democratic

rival and focusing on potential general election opponents.

CLINTON: When I hear the kind of reckless rhetoric coming from Donald Trump and Ted Cruz, it's deeply troubling, because it's not only offensive; it is dangerous.

FRATES: Leading in the polls, the former secretary of state is expected to win big. Her likely clean sweep is forcing Sanders to saturate his speeches with the contrasts between them.

SANDERS: The differences between Secretary Clinton and myself.

Secretary Clinton -- Secretary Clinton.

FRATES: But Clinton is ready for Sanders to concede, much like she did in 2008.

CLINTON: I didn't say, "You know what? If Senator Obama does X, Y and Z, maybe I'll support him." I said, "I am supporting Senator Obama."

FRATES: Sanders argues that, while he'll do whatever he can to keep a Republican out of the White House, it is up to Clinton to sway his voters to her side.

SANDERS: She has got to go out to you.

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FRATES: Now, if you want a sense of how Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton think they'll do today, take a look at where they'll be tonight. Hillary Clinton will be just down the road in Philadelphia, holding an event in a state where she's leading by double figures. Sanders, he'll have already moved on to West Virginia.

But no matter what happens tonight, Bernie Sanders vowing to continue this fight until the end, and it looks like he'll have the money and the support to do just that, Michaela.

PEREIRA: All right, Chris. Well, before he heads to West Virginia, he's going to join us right here, here on NEW DAY. Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders will join us live in our next hour.

CUOMO: Big day today. Five states up for grabs in the Northeast. Bundled delegates, as well. Voting already under way in Connecticut, and that's where we find CNN's Brynn Gingras. She's live in Hartford. That's where the polls opened, what, just a few minutes ago, right? Any action yet?

BRYNN GINGRAS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's right, Chris. Actually, we're getting a few trickling in to see, trying to get their voting in before they head to work.

But Chris, I want to give you this number quickly: 93,823, that is the number of people who registered to vote since January 1 of this year, according to the secretary of state here in Connecticut. And a large majority of those people, we're told, are under 30 years old. So I think that sort of speaks to the excitement people have of contributing to this primary.

One woman just walked in to vote. I said, "Are you going to vote?"

[06:15:03] She said, "Heck, yes, I am."

So I think a lot of people are super-excited, again, to be a part of this primary, make their vote count. Of course, this is traditionally a blue state. Hillary Clinton is supposed to do very well here tonight.

And as far as the Republican side, a moderate state as far as Republicans, and Donald Trump is in the lead. All five candidates, though, visited here in Connecticut before this primary, and certainly, now the polls are open. We'll see how they fare out tonight, Chris.

CUOMO: All right, Brynn. Thank you very much. We'll check back with you in a little bit. And of course, we encourage you to stay with CNN all day for coverage of today's Super Tuesday primaries. Voters head to the polls. Again, five big states. A lot of delegates up for grabs. Stay with us.

CAMEROTA: If Hillary Clinton sweeps today's primaries, what does that mean for Bernie Sanders? We will ask Senator Sanders when he's here. Also, later in this hour, we have our voter panel. They're going to weigh in on all the candidates and the issues. They are raring to go, as you can see.

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CUOMO: All right. We know how much you love the electoral math. So tonight 384 Democratic delegates up for grabs in five different northeast primary states.

The big question: well, what happens with Bernie Sanders? If he doesn't do well tonight, how does he survive? What does it mean for Clinton? Can she show, "Wow, look, I'm right within striking range?"

[06:20:11] So let's bring the gurus, a veritable Rushmore of pundits: David Gregory, Errol Louis and Mark Preston. Let's define victory tonight for Hillary Clinton. What is victory, brother Preston?

GREGORY: He sweeps five states. He continues her march to collect delegates and really makes it mathematically impossible for Bernie Sanders to win the nomination.

CAMEROTA: And yet, David, you see, even if she has a big night tonight, challenges ahead for her. Like what?

GREGORY: Well, she's going to move. I think one of the big challenges in the primary, she doesn't have a lot of passion behind her and particularly among younger voters. She is selling pragmatism, which is harder in a primary than it might be in a general election. CAMEROTA: If she wins tonight maybe she doesn't need passion.

GREGORY: Well, because she's got to make that pivot to be able to somehow focus on younger voters, to turn them out in the fall. She's got to build the kind of organization to get out the vote that will be as big and as formidable as possible in the fall, and she's got to make that turn.

So I would say, yes, obviously big victory tonight is victory for her but somehow forcing more of a concession from Sanders, so that she can effectively moving to the general election. She's got to find a way to tamp down what he's talking about out there, even if he loses tonight and has more room to grow.

CUOMO: So she's got to tamp down what he's saying in terms of what's keeping those voters from being hers already, and she wants to play up what Sanders should be doing in terms of starting to move toward combining this into a joint effort.

Let's listen to what the secretary said where she's saying, "With me, when I was in Bernie Sanders' position, I had no conditions." Take a listen.

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CLINTON: I did not put down conditions. I didn't say, you know what? If Senator Obama does X, Y and Z, maybe I'll support him. I said, I am supporting Senator Obama, because no matter what our differences might be, they pale in comparison to the differences between us and the Republicans.

CUOMO: Errol Louis.

LOUIS: A slightly less generous interpretation of that is that Bernie Sanders represents a movement, and Hillary Clinton represented herself in 2008. That's the arrangement that she wanted, was something like vice president or something like secretary of state, or something like that. But she wasn't, you know, arguing, as she says, for you know, lots of other people or changes in party rules or anything like that.

Bernie Sanders has made a lot of claims. He wanted a political revolution. He says you've got to change the super delegates rules. He said he wants certain things around college tuitions, certain issues that he ran on and feels very passionately about. He's saying he's going to argue for that, and there's nothing really wrong with that. I mean, this is what this whole thing is supposed to be about.

GREGORY: This is also why Sanders is different. I mean, Hillary Clinton wanted to run for president again. She needed to fall in line so she'd stay right with the party is and she's have a president who'd ultimately support her, which has happened, in addition to getting the kind of experience she would need within the administration as secretary of state.

I don't think Bernie Sanders is going to run for president again, and he is dangerous in that respect. Whatever movement comes out of this for him is not an elected office. So he doesn't feel that same kind of pressure to fall in line.

CAMEROTA: Mark, is it a little premature for her to say time for Sanders supporters to sort of come around to me?

PRESTON: Well, I certainly don't think what she said last night nor the tone that she took in saying it last night is helpful in trying to consolidate the Democratic Party, you know, at this point.

I think she's going to be very careful. She can't be the one looking like she's forcing out Bernie Sanders, who goes from state to state to state, as getting 10,000, 14,000, 5,000, 7,000 people that are showing up at these rallies. Now, the Democrats are lucky in the fact that, while they're split as a party right now, they're more likely to come back together than what we're seeing on the Republican side with Donald Trump and what have you.

CUOMO: Right.

PRESTON: But Hillary Clinton really should be more conciliatory, I think, to David's point, to try to bring these people in, but let me not go too far. Because if she goes too far over to the Bernie side, to the more liberal side, that will hurt her in the general.

GREGORY: She'd like to do this sooner rather than later, obviously. That's an obvious point. But if there's some way she can find a seam right now after a big win tonight, you know, the territory as we get deeper into May gets more friendly for Bernie Sanders so he can pick up more states. So there can be a renewed sense of momentum, even if it doesn't really make any difference.

CUOMO: Exactly what happened in 2008. I mean, she wound up dumping in June. Some thought it would have happened a month earlier, but then, as the math changed, she started picking off states. And then everybody was like, "OK."

So let's take a look at the states tonight and figure out what's going to make a difference? Looking Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island.

Preston, in New York, one of the surprising issues here, to the extent there was one beyond organizational capacity, was the gun issue for Bernie Sanders versus Clinton. Do you see an issue that will pop up more than others in these states?

PRESTON: I don't think so. I also think that the minimum wage.

CUOMO: Even Connecticut?

PRESTON: So let's take Connecticut off the table then for Bernie Sanders, given what happened up in Newtown, but I think New York is different. It was one state; it's a huge media market. The gun issue was brought up by her. He brought up the minimum wage issue, although she opened the door on it. We're talking about five different states that are spread out across -- I don't think you're going to see one issue that's going to dominate. [06:25:10] CAMEROTA: Errol, Pennsylvania's the big prize tonight.

How long does this go on after tonight? Let's say Hillary Clinton does very well tonight. Then what?

LOUIS: She tries to build her delegate lead. She probably pivots and starts to focus on California in a big, big way.

CAMEROTA: Not to stop you, but she's only 429 delegates away from the magic...

CUOMO: Put up those delegate numbers.

CAMEROTA: And tonight, I guess there's 384 available. She's very close to building on that delegate lead. But it's all proportional.

GREGORY: Right.

LOUIS: You'll get something in the 52 percent range, 48, 52, the two of them, you know. And so she's not going to sort of run away with it; she's not going to clinch it tonight. That's for sure. And that's when you have to start looking at some of the remaining states, especially the ones with big delegate counts.

Something you have to keep in mind, though, I mean, Pennsylvania, we're all going to look at. It's got the most delegates. There's some interesting stuff going on in Maryland, where there are a lot of high-profile African-American candidates who are running for some congressional seats, state-wide seats.

It's going to really sort of affect the turnout, and it's going to be a place for her to really try to reap some of the benefits of all of this political activity going on in what is home turf for her.

CAMEROTA: OK. We'll watch for that tonight. Panel, thank you. Great to talk to you.

CUOMO: Now obviously, it's always a great opportunity and a big moment like this to have the candidates. And we do have the Vermont senator, Bernie Sanders, joining us live. What is his case for the people in these five states? What does he think is going to happen tonight and what will it lead to? We'll ask him all of these questions and more, Mick. So stay tuned.

PEREIRA: I will, and I'm sure everyone else will this morning.

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