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Trump & Clinton Win Big in Northeast Primaries; Interview with NY Rep. Chris Collins. Aired 7-7:30a ET

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ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo, Alisyn Camerota and Michaela Pereira.

[07:00:10] ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to your NEW DAY.

Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton relishing the sweet taste of victory this morning. The front-runners dominating the northeast primaries last night, both now inching closer to clinching their parties' nominations.

Trump says the GOP race is all but over. He even calls himself the presumptive nominee. You'll hear from Trump himself coming up.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: As for the Democrats, Hillary Clinton winning four of the five states last night. She's now 90 percent of the way to having the delegates needed to clinch the nomination. Senator Sanders, though, refusing to drop out, saying he's taking his progressive platform all the way to the convention.

So what is the state of play this morning? We have the race covered the way only CNN can. Let's begin with John Berman, breaking down the results and delegate race. What matters, my man?

JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: What matters is a clean sweep for Donald Trump, five out of five. Look at this: Pennsylvania, Maryland, Rhode Island and Delaware. He had 60 percent in both Rhode Island and Delaware. Ted Cruz finished in third place in every race but Pennsylvania.

Let's look at the Democratic race. Hillary Clinton, she won four out of the five states. Pennsylvania, one of the few remaining big states on the map. That's a problem for Bernie Sanders.

Bernie Sanders did manage to win Rhode Island. It did not help him that much, though, in the delegate out -- hunt, I should say. Let's talk about delegates right now. Hillary Clinton with 214 last night, Bernie Sanders 160. Hillary Clinton netting 54. This comes at a time when Bernie Sanders wanted to be chipping away. That not happening.

For the Republicans, Donald Trump, he got 142 delegates. Ted Cruz and John Kasich way back at 5. This does include some of the Pennsylvania unbound delegates. CNN called them, all of them, and we got commitments to vote for Donald Trump from a number of them. The overall delegate picture now: Donald Trump at 998, getting a lot

closer to 1,237. About 250 away. For Hillary Clinton and the Democrats, she's at 2,168. Bernie Sanders at 1,401. This does include super delegates. But as you can see, with the super delegates, Hillary Clinton getting very close to the total she'll need to clinch that nomination -- Michaela.

PEREIRA: John "The Numbers Man" Berman. Thank you very much for that.

CUOMO: Long morning. Have some coffee. Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum.

PEREIRA: Thank you very much for that. I'm going to need it, because we've got a big day here.

Trump, clean sweep, making it a mathematical impossibility for his rivals to become the nominee before convention. Trump and the Cruz- Kasich alliance now shifting focus to the next delegate battleground, Indiana, where Cruz is all-in.

Senior White House correspondent Jim Acosta is live in Washington. Hi there.

JIM ACOSTA, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Michaela.

Donald Trump was not at a loss for words last night. He just took a giant leap toward capturing the GOP nomination. He's clearly on a roll, after going five for five in last night's primaries. But unlike that more diplomatic tone he adopted last week -- remember that? -- it was all too clear last night the campaign's mantra, "let Trump be Trump," is back with a vengeance.

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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I consider myself the presumptive nominee, absolutely.

ACOSTA (voice-over): Donald Trump declared his bid for the Republican nomination a done deal.

TRUMP: It's over. As far as I'm concerned, it's over.

ACOSTA: Urging his rivals to throw in the towel after sweeping all five northeast primaries by margins that can only be described as huge.

TRUMP: I think they're hurting the party because, again, they have no path, zero path to victory. And we're going to win on the first ballot.

ACOSTA: The GOP front-runner blatantly rejected calls to tone down his rhetoric and act more presidential.

TRUMP: Why would I change? You know, if you have a football team and you're winning, and then you get to the Super Bowl, you don't change your quarterback. Right? So I'm not changing.

ACOSTA: And he previewed the types of attacks he has in store for Hillary Clinton in a general election.

TRUMP: I call her Crooked Hillary. She's crooked. She will not be a good president; she doesn't have the strength. If Hillary Clinton were a man, I don't think she'd get 5 percent of the vote. The only thing she's got going is the woman's card, and the beautiful thing is, women don't like her.

ACOSTA: Trump's use of the phrase, "the woman card," provoked this talked-about reaction from Chris Christie's wife.

Despite that confidence on display, the real-estate tycoon still has a few key battles ahead.

SEN. TED CRUZ (R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The question is, can the state of Indiana stop the media's chosen Republican candidates?

ACOSTA: Ted Cruz is insisting the race is not over.

CRUZ: I've got good news for you. Tonight, this campaign moves back to more favorable terrain.

ACOSTA: Cruz also ramped up his attacks, dedicating his entire speech to linking Trump to Clinton.

CRUZ: Every one of us is fed up with politicians who betray us, who make promises and then don't do it. Donald is telling us he is lying to us.

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ACOSTA: Now, the forces against Trump are not giving up. The "never Trump" movement, which includes some top GOP strategists, is warning the party that Trump will cause Republicans to lose control of the Congress in the Fall.

[07:05:00] But later today, Trump will try to settle some of those GOP nerves and show off his wonky side with a major foreign policy speech here in Washington.

Alisyn, he doesn't use teleprompters much. We'll be looking to see if he uses one at that speech over at the Mayflower Hotel just a few hours from now.

CAMEROTA: We tried to get a preview of it. Chris pressed him on what the specifics would be, but we didn't get a lot of those, so we'll be looking forward to that speech.

ACOSTA: We'll have to wait and see.

CAMEROTA: Right. Jim, thank you.

All right. Hillary Clinton savoring four Super Tuesday victories, making her all but certain the Democratic nominee. Bernie Sanders, though, says he is not going anywhere. CNN's Jeff Zeleny is live in Philadelphia with more.

Good morning, Jeff.

JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Alisyn.

Hillary Clinton is certainly keeping one eye on Bernie Sanders, but the campaign is shifting its focus ever so gently to Donald Trump. They believe that this field is basically set.

You could see the energy sort of shift last night when she swept onto the stage here in Philadelphia to the music of "Eye of the Tiger," of course that theme song from "Rocky." She wants to be back here in three months at the Democratic National Convention.

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CLINTON: Thank you, Pennsylvania!

ZELENY (voice-over): Hillary Clinton winning four big states, pushing her even closer to becoming the Democratic nominee, extending her hand to Bernie Sanders and his supporters who she'll need in the fight ahead.

HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: And I applaud Senator Sanders and his millions of supporters for challenging us to get unaccountable money out of our politics and giving -- greater emphasis to closing the gap of inequality, and I know together we will get that done.

ZELENY: But Sanders pledging to stay in the race and run an issue- oriented campaign until the last vote is cast.

In a statement overnight, he says, "This campaign is going to the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia with as many delegates as possible to fight for a progressive party platform."

CLINTON: Whether you support Senator Sanders or you support me, there's much more that unites us than divides us.

ZELENY: But the Clinton campaign is already looking forward to the battle with Donald Trump, or whoever the GOP nominee may be.

CLINTON: We will unify our party to win this election, and build an America where we can all rise together. An America where we lift each other up instead of tearing each other down.

ZELENY: Sanders addressing the crowd in West Virginia before the final results, taking on a different tone, steering clear of harsh attacks against Clinton.

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-VT), DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Almost every national poll and every state poll has us defeating Trump, and that margin for us is significantly larger than that of Secretary Clinton.

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ZELENY: And Senator Sanders is going to be campaigning in Indiana today, but all eyes are on his tone, what he says, how he addresses his Democratic rival.

Chris, that is going to determine how much longer this Democratic race is going on. He's going to stand until the end, he says, to run an issues-oriented campaign. We'll see if some of those issues include still attacking the Clinton campaign, or if he sticks sort of down the middle and this race shifts like it feels like it's on the verge of doing -- Chris.

CUOMO: No attacks, only contrasts we hear from the Sanders campaign. They say that's their take going forward. We'll see what that means. Jeff Zeleny, thank you very much.

Let's shift back over to the Republican side for a second and its front-runner, Donald Trump, now the self-proclaimed presumptive nominee. We spoke with him earlier this morning on NEW DAY about what this Super Tuesday sweep means, and what has to change in his campaign to get to the White House.

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TRUMP: One headline is a good headline. I mean, I won five states. I them very conclusively. Everybody's saying that. It's not me. I'm just copying all you guys. We won tremendous victories and larger than even anticipated.

I guess we -- we also signed a lot in the -- the one in Pennsylvania is a little bit difficult to figure. We won 17. We had a great, you know, a great victory there in Pennsylvania.

But we also signed a lot of delegates. And they're actually signed. You know, we had the whole signing card thing going. And we picked up many of those delegates, most of those delegates. Half of them are waiting around until the convention, and others are to come.

So I think I heard numbers like 50-something, and we have some that are getting ready to sign. So we had a team, a very good team out there.

CUOMO: So...

TRUMP: So we won it conclusively, but we won most of the delegates, and many of them are already signed...

CUOMO: Ted Cruz...

TRUMP: ... which I don't think you probably have down on your charts yet. Do you?

CUOMO: Well, it's hard for us to predict what people are going to do in advance, but we do know that last night, let's take in Pennsylvania, you had a good showing among those elected delegates there, as well, who were expressing a preference for you going into the convention. That's a good sign.

[07:10:10] On the other side of it -- it's a good sign, you know, where your campaign is concerned. On the other side of it, Ted Cruz was in Indiana last night. He says you can't do it. You can't get to 1,237. You can't beat Hillary Clinton. And you can't bring this party together. At least half your party still does not want you to be the nominee. Your response?

TRUMP: Well, Lying' Ted has, you know, been saying this for a long time. He said we couldn't win the five states last week. He said he would win at least two of the states. You know, Lying' Ted is Lying' Ted. He's one of a kind. He can lie better than any human being I've ever seen, but ultimately, he's not successful. I've actually never seen anything quite like it.

We had a great victory and far more than we thought. Far more than your network estimated. And now we're up to close to 1,000, and we have a long way to go. I mean, we're going to do great in California. We have a big lead in California. I think we're going to do really good in Indiana, where I'm going today. And Indiana looks really strong. And, you know, I think we get there very easily, according to all of the people that -- that run all of those brilliant charts. You are among them. Actually, your chart is excellent.

CUOMO: Of course it is.

TRUMP: Your chart -- your chart works beautifully, as operated by John King usually. But we seem to get there. We seem to get over -- over the number.

And as you know, if we were short 50, there's so many roving delegates around that are going to be looking for a home, you get them pretty easily, I mean.

CUOMO: Well, let's see -- let's talk about Indiana, because now that is the big state on everybody's map. That will be the big stand for this so-called alliance between Kasich and Cruz. What do you make of their efforts to join against you? Do you have the energy to take them on? You sound pretty beat this morning, but when you get to Indiana, you'll be taking on the both of them in a united effort.

TRUMP: Yes. No, I'm not -- I'm not beat. I did get up a little bit early to do your show. I want to -- you know, you asked me to do it, and I'm doing it.

CUOMO: Thank you.

TRUMP: But -- but I was up late last night, I will say that. We're all celebrating -- you know, we celebrate, and then we go back to work. But we're doing your show, and that's an honor.

So I go to Indiana. I have Bobby Knight tonight is going to endorse Trump. Bobby Knight is the most revered coach in the history, I guess, of Indiana. He's great. A great guy. A great coach. People love him.

CUOMO: How about Mike Pence? Have you reached out for the governor's endorsement yet?

TRUMP: Yes. The governor's a great guy. I've met with him. He may not endorse. I don't think he'll endorse anybody, actually, he's -- and he may endorse us. I don't know. He is a great guy. He's become -- you know, he's done a very, very good job as governor, and he's a great guy. I don't know if we'll get his endorsement. I don't know.

CUOMO: Do you -- do you think he's going to endorse Cruz? You don't think so? You don't think he'll come out and endorse if it's not you?

TRUMP: No, I don't think so.

CUOMO: So the big speech that you're going to give on foreign policy, can you give us an indication of what the headline's going to be?

TRUMP: It will be a speech just on foreign policy. Some of my ideas on foreign policy. It will have to do with some of the economics of foreign policy, because we're getting killed on economics. You know, I'm an economic person. And it's one of my strengths and maybe a big strength. I've called a lot of correct economic policy. I don't get credit for it. But a lot of things that are happening in the world I've called, called it very good and happening now.

And so I'm giving a speech on economic policy. And it was a few guys got together. They say, "You know, you're doing great with the race, but it wouldn't be a bad" -- I did a speech on AIPAC, primarily on Israel and now I'm doing a speech on foreign policy.

CUOMO: Well it's always good to have some policy mixed into a presidential election.

TRUMP: I think so.

CUOMO: Do you agree with President Obama about sending 250 or even more troops into Syria to help the effort there? The special operators that he announced that he's sending in? Do you agree with that move?

TRUMP: Well, I could agree with it, but I don't agree with telling it to the world. I would send them in quietly, because right now they have a target on their back.

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CUOMO: All right. We're going to have more of the interview with Donald Trump in our 8 a.m. hour.

Joining us now to discuss what you have heard so far is the co-chair of Donald Trump's U.S. House Leadership Committee, representative from New York Chris Collins. Collins, by the way, the first Republican congressman to endorse Trump.

Thank you for joining us this morning.

REP. CHRIS COLLINS (R), NEW YORK: Good to be with you, Chris.

CUOMO: Congratulations on the results last night.

COLLINS: Oh, it's a big night.

CUOMO: Let's -- let's skip to the pushback. Ted Cruz says, "This is just about the media anointing Donald Trump. We're moving on to favorable terrain now." He said this in Indiana. Do you believe that you will win Indiana?

COLLINS: Well, Donald outperformed last night from the numbers that we had looked at. He outperformed in New York, where they were counting on maybe 85. He got 90. So every time that, you know, we've penciled out where we're going to get to 1,237, he's exceeding that. He's going to do fine in Indiana. Indiana is a competitive race, but the delegates are just mounting up.

And so he has said, the presumptive nominee. There's no question about it. It's time for our party to come together and to take, you know, the fight to Hillary, her progressive, liberal agenda, the socialist agenda that Bernie Sanders has promoted that she said she pretty much agrees with.

So it's time to get into the general election fight. And I think Mr. Trump's speech today here in Washington, his foreign policy speech, is his shifting of his campaign into a general election to make sure that all the voters, Republicans and Democrats, understand the leader that he is. And so you're going to see more and more of this rolling out as we head into California, and certainly on June 7, it will be over. Then our party can come together.

But when you hear Ted Cruz, the loser that he is, always moving the goal post, used to say, "Well, if it was one on one with Donald, I'd be getting 50 percent. Donald can't break 50 percent." Well, he broke 60 percent last night with two other people there. I mean, Ted Cruz was, you know, in the teens. So the party has absolutely, 85 percent of the party has rejected the Ted Cruz message.

I mean, all I can give the guy credit for is somebody, you know, who is losing as he's running around moving the goal posts, trying to change the definition of the game. Donald Trump...

CUOMO: So let's...

COLLINS: ... is going to be our nominee.

CUOMO: So let's take a look at the foreign policy speech and then let's take a look at the path forward for Trump.

On the speech, I asked him about the 250 special operators that are being added to the mix in Syria. The president just announced that; you're well aware, I know. He said, "I agree with the move, but I don't like announcing it. It puts them at risk."

Now, you know that there is no real base for that kind of assessment, that the reason that the president announces it is twofold. One, if anything, it can give a competitive advantage. It shows the enemy that you have some of the deadliest and most effective people in the world coming to stop you.

And the second is that the American people deserve to know when our men and women who are going to go there and give their blood are being put in, that they need to understand and respect that sacrifice. Is it a problem to announce something like this in your opinion?

COLLINS: I think absolutely. I mean, our president who announces a red line in Syria that he doesn't adhere to, that -- I mean, no strategist ever is going to disclose their strategy. You don't see football coaches before a game sending their playbook and their strategy to the opposing teams.

CUOMO: No, but they tell you how many guys they'll have on the field.

COLLINS: Well, the rules say how many guys you're going to have on the field. Better to keep your adversaries in the dark. You don't announce when your troops are coming, when they're going, how strong they are.

CUOMO: You don't think the American people should know that you're about to commit more blood to the situation, after everything?

COLLINS: I think we have a commander in chief for a reason. Unfortunately, today we have a commander in chief that nobody trusts the word that he gives. His results and what ISIS has done, the supposed JV. I mean, every time Barack Obama calls something out, like ISIS being the JV, he just makes us in the eyes of the world look ridiculous when, in fact, he's not spot-on.

CUOMO: All right. One...

COLLINS: So, no. I think -- I think a commander in chief should keep his strategy within his inner circle and let the results speak for themselves. You just don't give that advantage to your opponent.

CUOMO: Understood.

Help clarify what we heard today from Donald Trump about Hillary Clinton. He said, she's just a woman. She's playing the woman card. And if she wasn't a woman, she wouldn't get 5 percent of the vote, if she were a man.

Behind her we saw Chris Christie's wife blanch at that description. That's not her name. That was her reaction. Do you think that's the right way to go?

COLLINS: Well, I think that the main piece is Hillary Clinton is not capable of being the president of the United States. We haven't yet taken the fight to her on what she's done with her foundation. We haven't taken the fight to her on her progressive agenda. Benghazi still hasn't played out. Her e-mails.

CUOMO: Right. Is calling her a woman, is that the way to do it? That's what I'm asking you?

COLLINS: I would probably not have used those words, but you know, there's political correct and not. Mr. Trump speaks what other people may be thinking. But, you know, the fact is she's not qualified, and I don't think, certainly, as she's going to oppose him in New York. I mean, she did terrible in New York. Up in the upstate part, Bernie Sanders trounced her, up in the western New York area, where, you know, where -- that's a key indicator of what happens, which tells me New York's going to be...

CUOMO: Well, as we both know, she got well over 50 percent of the vote here and cleaned up in the delegates. But I understand the regional effect, as well.

I've got to get going right now. As always, Congressman, it's great to have you with us. And I look forward to having you on NEW DAY again. Congratulations on last night.

COLLINS: Thank you very much.

[07:20:06] CUOMO: So this morning, the speech that the congressman was just talking about on foreign policy, this could be a big pivot point for Donald Trump. Will it? Got to watch it to know. Wolf Blitzer is going to anchor CNN's live coverage of Donald Trump's foreign policy speech at noon today.

Now coming up, more reaction from the people who matter in the system right now. Paul Ryan, House speaker, will be here in the 8 a.m. hour of NEW DAY -- Mick.

MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: Hillary Clinton making overtures for supporters of Bernie Sanders to help unite the party as she gears up for a bruising battle for the White House. How does this square with the "Bernie or bust movement"? That's ahead.

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CLINTON: And I applaud Senator Sanders and his millions of supporters for challenging us to get unaccountable money out of our politics and giving -- greater emphasis to closing the gap of inequality, and I know together we will get that done.

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[07:25:03] CAMEROTA: That was Hillary Clinton extending an olive branch to Bernie Sanders supporters as she tries to pivot to the general election. But Sanders releasing a statement last night, saying, "We are in this race until the last vote is cast. That is why this campaign is going to the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia with as many delegates as possible to fight for a progressive party platform."

Joining us now is Brad Woodhouse, a Hillary Clinton supporter. He's also a former communications director for the DNC and president of Correct the Record and Americans United for Change. Good morning, Brad.

BRAD WOODHOUSE, PRESIDENT, CORRECT THE RECORD: Good morning. How are you?

CAMEROTA: I'm fine. That's quite an intro for you.

WOODHOUSE: Thank you.

CAMEROTA: So you must be feeling very good about the results for Hillary Clinton...

WOODHOUSE: Absolutely.

CAMEROTA: ... last night. What do you think about Sanders saying that he is staying in this race until every last vote is counted?

WOODHOUSE: Well, look, I don't think the issue is whether or not his campaign continues. I think the issue is how he conducts his campaign.

I mean, we saw this morning on another network Donald Trump said that he's paying attention to what Bernie Sanders is saying about Hillary Clinton. And he says he considers negative attacks on her by Bernie Sanders sound bites that he is going to use this fall. I don't think Bernie Sanders wants to be the subject of Republican advertising against Hillary Clinton in the fall.

So, look, she is going to turn her attention, I believe, I predict, to Donald Trump. I know as an organization we are going to turn our attention to Donald Trump.

CAMEROTA: And what does that mean? I mean, when you turn your attention to Donald Trump, what are you going to do?

WOODHOUSE: Well, it means -- it means that, for example, when he has his foreign policy speech today, we'll probably have a lot to say about it in reaction. And, you know, he's going to, I think, try to turn the page on some of the kind of outlandish positions he's taken and the things that he said, and we're not going to let him get away with that. I mean, we have those things on videotape, Alisyn.

So we're going to turn our attention to what we believe the new battle is, which is increasingly looking like it's going to be Donald Trump. We do believe it's going to be, obviously, Hillary Clinton on our side.

CAMEROTA: Well, Donald Trump seems to agree with you. He, as you say, is turning his attention towards Hillary Clinton. In fact, he was just on NEW DAY less than an hour ago, and he had some things to say about her. So let me play that for you.

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TRUMP: She is a woman. She is playing the woman card left and right. She did play it last time with Obama, but she's playing it much harder this time, and she will be called on it. If she were a man and she was the way she is, she would get virtually no votes.

(END VIDEO CLIP) CAMEROTA: What do you think about that line of attack?

WOODHOUSE: Well, look, all I can say is, I hope Donald Trump just keeps on talking. I hope he keeps leveling that line of attack. I mean, to Hillary Clinton for being a woman. I mean, Alisyn, I want you to think about what we're on the cusp of here. Very soon people will be referring to her as the presumptive nominee of the Democratic Party. She'll be the first major candidate in our country of a party that is female. It's historic.

And he's really going to really take this line of attack with her, when women are decisive in presidential elections. They're a key swing vote, and you know, it's extraordinary.

I have a feeling that we'll see this walked back at some point a little bit, but you know, Donald Trump is the gift that keeps on giving.

CAMEROTA: Did not sound like he was going to be walking it back this morning at all.

WOODHOUSE: Not yet.

CAMEROTA: But Brad, there are vulnerabilities ahead for Hillary Clinton, even with woman. Donald Trump says that she's playing the woman card, and that's what's getting her all the votes. It doesn't look like that from the polls. Let me pull up the latest "USA Today" opinion. This is about the favorables and unfavorables. She's actually upside-down with women there. The unfavorables, 48 percent; the favorables, 42. How does she turn that around?

WOODHOUSE: Well, look, I have every reason to believe that she will turn this around. I mean, let's just consider. Hillary Clinton for many years, but definitely in the past year, has been getting it from all sides. I mean, the Republicans have run, basically, their campaigns against her, Bernie Sanders has run a campaign against her.

She's going to get an opportunity now to go contrast her vision for America, Alisyn, with Donald Trump's. And I think that that's going to contrast well. Women are going to respond to it.

The context of this race will be different in a general election than it is in a primary, and I -- those numbers will turn around, I feel confident.

CAMEROTA: One more vulnerability that that poll revealed. And that's with independents. As you can see, that's a big -- there's a big gap there between the unfavorable and favorable: independents unfavorable, 59 percent feel that way towards Hillary Clinton. And she also needs them to win.

Do you think that this primary, this long primary and fighting against Bernie Sanders in which many people say that she had to move to the left, that that's hurt her with independents?

WOODHOUSE: I don't think that has hurt her so much with independents. I think it has been kind of this constant negative attacks against her. And that -- look, that's going to continue, certainly, from the Republicans.

But when you also have a major Democratic candidate in your party who is leveling many -- many of those attacks, it's going to take -- it's going to take a toll on those numbers.

So you know, this is why it's so important to unify the party. This is why Senator Sanders can play such a big role in making sure that we deny Donald Trump the presidency, by getting his supporters, eventually, when it's ready, when it's time, when he feels it's ready, to get his supporters behind Hillary Clinton.