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9 Arrested, 5 Officers Injured in Seattle Protests; Presidential Hopefuls Make Final Push in Indiana; Sanders makes Push for Clinton's Super Delegates; Storms Expected in Eastern U.S.; Obama Has Last Laughs at White House Correspondents' Dinner. Aired 6-6:30a ET
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A mini (ph) march has turned violent in Seattle.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Got to go, got to go.
[05:58:34] SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (D-VT), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It's unfortunate that this happened.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I need a doctor.
DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: If we win Indiana, it's over.
HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm going to do everything I can to get the nomination wrapped up.
SANDERS: That is a tough road to climb, but it is not an impossible road.
SEN. TED CRUZ (R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Behind the Donald Trump mask is Hillary Clinton.
CLINTON: This hateful talk, enough. Enough!
TRUMP: We win, then we can focus on Crooked Hillary. Please, let's focus on Hillary.
BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The United States has conducted an operation that killed Osama bin Laden.
We had not looked at it through rose colored glasses. We knew the risks involved.
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ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo and Alisyn Camerota.
CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: All righty. Good morning. Welcome to your NEW DAY. It is Monday, May 2, 6 a.m. in the east. J.B. joining us this morning, and we are just 24 all-important hours from voters heading to the polls in Indiana.
Now, this state could be do or die for several of the underdogs. You've got Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton continuing to spar over his controversial "woman card" attack. What will that mean in this primary? Coming up in our next hour, Donald Trump will make the case for himself live, right here.
ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: And we'll talk to a panel of Republican women about what they think of the candidate's words regarding female voters. Great to have you guys in studio. Stand by.
We do begin with breaking news. Violent protests breaking out on the streets of Seattle overnight. What started as a peaceful demonstration for immigration and workers' rights quickly escalated to police in riot gear clashing with protestors. Some throwing rocks, Molotov cocktails, smashing windows. Several protestors and police officers have been injured.
CNN's Dan Simon joins us with breaking details. What do you know, Dan?
DAN SIMON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, hey, Alisyn, the festivities turned into mayhem when you have this group of protestors that started throwing things at police. When it was all over, several officers were injured and at least nine people were arrested.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There it is!
SIMON (voice-over): Flash grenades containing tear gas and pepper spray filling the air as Seattle police in riot gear try to break up hundreds of May Day protestors.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My forehead hurts, everything. I need a doctor.
SIMON: The annual march celebrating the rights of workers and immigrants started peacefully but turned violent Sunday evening after police say anti-capitalist demonstrators began breaking windows and throwing wooden poles and Molotov cocktails like these toward officers.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When it becomes violent, and when the property damage becomes significant, we have to do something, and we did.
SIMON: Injuries were suffered on both sides. Police say several officers were hurt in the tense standoff: one struck by a rock, another hit by a Molotov cocktail and another bit by a demonstrator, while some protestors were injured from the flash grenades.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All of a sudden, to get back and sprayed (EXPLETIVE DELETED) right in my face.
SIMON: Seattle police making several arrests as the protests dwindled into the night.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do we want?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Justice!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Justice!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Justice!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Now!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Now!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Now!
SIMON: A very different picture in Los Angeles, where thousands took to the streets in peaceful May Day marches.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We're here to fight together.
SIMON: Some demonstrators taking aim at Donald Trump's immigration policy. The Republican front-runner looming large in the form of a balloon effigy, with the bombastic billionaire carrying a KKK hood.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He is the perfect example of what we cannot stand for any longer. We will no longer be suppressed, and we are taking our power back.
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SIMON: Well, unfortunately, Seattle has a history of this kind of violence. We've seen this play out over the past few years. Officers were prepared for it, but it just goes to show you that there's only so much you can do when you have a group intent on inciting violence.
Chris, we'll send it back to you.
CUOMO: Absolutely. We'll keep following that and see what accountability happens for those actions, as well.
So let's turn to this 2016 race. Donald Trump hoping voters in Indiana will help him deliver the knockout blow to his GOP rivals. The Republican front-runner upping the ante, declaring the nomination is his if he wins tomorrow's primary.
We've got the battle for Indiana covered the way only CNN can. Let's begin with Phil Mattingly.
Phil, what do you got?
PHIL MATTINGLY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Chris. This was supposed to be the moment for Ted Cruz and his campaign.
After two weeks of sweeping Donald Trump victories, Indiana was where Cruz would seize the race back and go on that path to block Donald Trump's attempt to secure the GOP nomination. Just one problem. What happens if Donald Trump wins Indiana? We may be about to find out.
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MATTINGLY (voice-over): Time, running out on the "stop Trump" movement?
DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES: I mean, the two last ones are, like, hanging by their fingertips. They're choking. "Don't let me fall! Don't let me fall!"
MATTINGLY: Donald Trump confident that a big win in the Indiana primary tomorrow will cement his path to the GOP nomination, effectively knock out Senator Cruz and Governor John Kasich.
TRUMP: If we win Indiana, it's over, OK? And then we can focus on Crooked Hillary. Please, let's focus on Hillary.
MATTINGLY: Trump kicking off the week by ramping up against Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton.
TRUMP: If she were not a woman, she wouldn't even be in this race.
MATTINGLY: He's refusing to tone it down.
TRUMP: She is a strong person. She's going to have to be able to take it. The fact is, she -- the only card she has is the woman's card. She's done a lousy job in so many ways, and even women don't like her.
MATTINGLY: Ted Cruz pinning his hopes for besting Trump in Indiana, though the latest poll in the state shows him trailing Trump by 15 points.
SEN. TED CRUZ (R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I have to tell you, I have faith in Hoosiers. In the common sense, good judgment of the men and women of this great state.
MATTINGLY: Over the weekend, Donald Trump is saying he's being cheated of delegates he won in Arizona.
TRUMP: It's all a rigged system. For instance, I won in Arizona. I won everything, but these guys are trying to go in and get votes in the second ballot.
MATTINGLY: The Cruz campaign trying to outmaneuver the front- runner, courting delegates country-wide to come his way at a contested convention, all if Trump isn't able to lock up the nomination on a first ballot. A contested convention, obviously something the Trump campaign does not want at all. Something the Cruz campaign is continuing to push for. [06:05:04] One thing to keep in mind, guys: if Donald Trump does
win Indiana, sweep a large number of the state's 57 delegates, a pretty good chance that a contested convention is not something that will happen -- guys.
CAMEROTA: Interesting. Tomorrow will be fascinating. Phil, thanks so much for setting it up for us.
Let's discuss all of this with our CNN political commentator, Matt Lewis. He's also a senior contributor at "The Daily Caller." CNN political analyst David Gregory, host of "The David Gregory Show" podcast; and CNN national political reporter Maeve Reston. Great to have all of you with us, panel.
Maeve, let me start with you. Indiana is supposed to be Cruz country. So what is going wrong, or I should say not exactly right for Cruz there?
MAEVE RESTON, CNN NATIONAL POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: Obviously, Donald Trump had a lot of momentum rolling out of the Acela primary as we were calling it, the big Northeastern states, and at the same time, the talk radio in Indiana is not coming to Cruz's rescue the way that his campaign was hoping and the way that they have in other states.
The third factor here is this sort of crumbled alliance between John Kasich and Ted Cruz where, you know, Kasich's folks were supposed to stay out of Indiana. What the Cruz people are looking at and the anti-Trump forces, the fact is, a lot of those Kasich supporters in Indiana just can't quite stomach Cruz and aren't necessarily going to go in there and vote for Cruz the way they were supposed to.
So it's going to be really fascinating to watch. I do think it's much closer in Indiana than it looks in that latest poll. A lot of the internal polls with the campaigns and the anti-Trump forces have been tighter than that.
CUOMO: Hmm. To borrow your phrase, I think they also can't stomach the fact that there was an alliance in the first place.
RESTON: That's true.
CUOMO: All of these exit polls that we're seeing, David Gregory, show if there's one point of consolidation within the GOP, it's whoever wins this primary, doesn't matter close to the 1,237 or not, should get the nomination.
How big a deal is this? That this secondary selection process for the delegates after the main state primary. Now you go to state convention. Ted Cruz coming in there with what I guess is a better organization and talking to delegates who now say, "Yes, I'm with you on the second vote." How big a deal is this?
DAVID GREGORY, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Well, it's a big deal, because it's a sign he has out-organized Donald Trump really all along the way here in securing delegates. I just don't know if it's going to be enough. The reality is, he's got to win Indiana, and Ted Cruz says that.
Effectively saying it's over if he can't win Indiana. The margin of what Trump would need to win it on the first ballot goes down under 50 percent.
CUOMO: Is he considering winning one of these quick moves, like in Arizona, where, you know, Alisyn wins the vote outright and then I come in and talk to everybody and say, "Well, only for the first vote?" Is that part of the new definition of winning for Cruz?
GREGORY: Oh, I think it is. Because even if he loses then Indiana, the only place for a contested convention, he tries to somehow deny Trump in California, which would be the big prize where he could do that, and try to build up a little momentum in some of these western states.
But, again, I think it just may be too little, too late. One of the things that's different from, say, Wisconsin, is that Trump has come out of the northeast owning that entire piece of geography here, and I think he's carrying that momentum into Indiana. I think voters here are also affected, not just by their distaste for this alliance by also by more establishment support for Trump coming out of, for one thing, Capitol Hill.
CAMEROTA: Matt, John Kasich's argument has been, for a long time, one sort of overarching theme, and it's a really good case, by the way. That is I'm the only person who can beat the Democrats, you know, come November. So look at the latest polls. OK? You see that Clinton beats Trump in a head-to-head matchup. She gets 50 percent to his 39. Clinton beats Cruz, 49-42. Then there's Kasich, 46 percent to 41 percent. Now, that's a good argument, but it doesn't seem to be necessarily resonating in the primary states.
MATT LEWIS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: No, it's not. And I think, you know, in terms of how it might affect this race, it would only matter if Kasich were close. Right? If he were within a couple hundred delegates of Donald Trump and there was a contested convention, maybe then he could make a compelling argument, "Hey, I'm the candidate who can win a general election."
But clearly, this is a sign that Republican primary voters have not prioritized beating Hillary Clinton. I mean, that's not their top priority. Now, that will change at some point, but, you know, Kasich clearly has not caught on. That message is not really resonating.
And the other thing I would point out is, I do think that Donald Trump, he may surprise a lot of people, if he's the nominee. I think he could give Hillary a much tougher time than the polls are now showing, because once he zeros in on somebody and tries to take them down, it tends to work.
CUOMO: Well, also, we know that this far out, those types of potential matchup polls are often about recognition.
CAMEROTA: Doesn't mean anything. John Kasich has less recognition than Donald Trump. CUOMO: I know. And so there's an inverse effect. And they'll
say that's why Bernie Sanders does better, if you talk to the Clinton people, say he hasn't been vetted the same way. That's the theory. But again, it's all speculation at this point.
[06:10:11] CAMEROTA: Familiarity breeds contempt.
CUOMO: That's exactly right. As in my life.
So Maeve, let me ask you, my dinner table turned into a crucible of considerable thought about the woman card and Donald Trump, and there were a couple of women who were really angry at all of the other women who didn't seem to care as much. Has the media exaggerated the significance of what Trump said about Hillary and the woman card? If not, why not?
RESTON: I think that this is a dynamic of the race that we will be talking about for many months to come. I mean, the fact that Donald Trump is going to take that line of attack against Hillary Clinton is really potentially a risky move for him. I mean, Republicans are already under water among single women.
You know, they have a huge deficit to make up if they run against Hillary Clinton, and Donald Trump is just doing nothing to try to turn around his unfavorables with women.
So I think that, you know, there are some women who don't care that he said that. I think there are a lot of women who do care, and the big question is whether Donald Trump really has a strategy to turn around his unfavorables with women. Because we haven't seen it yet.
CAMEROTA: And David, quickly, I think you mentioned that the establishment seems to be kind of accepting the Donald Trump, that Donald Trump might be the nominee. In fact, Congressman Mark Sanford said, many of us who have expressed concerns are reconciling ourselves to the fact that, in all likelihood, he will be the eventual nominee and hear more and more people kind of trying to make peace with this.
CUOMO: Orrin Hatch, remember him on the show, I'm not going to talk about Donald Trump. Let's just see what happens. And now he's like, "Ah, he's pretty clever."
CAMEROTA: There you go.
GREGORY: See, I think the reason is that these are people who think that Donald Trump will sit down with congressional leaders and other -- and others and get advice on how to conduct himself as president. Unlike a Ted Cruz, who they view as having a particularly inflexible and pretty hard-edged brand of conservatism.
CAMEROTA: Panel, thank you very much.
One reminder: Donald Trump will join us live on NEW DAY coming up in our 7 a.m. hour. So stick around for that.
JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: On the Democratic side, Senator Bernie Sanders making a push for super delegates in states where he has won, insisting they should back him instead of Hillary Clinton. And he vows to stay in the race until the convention in July when those super delegates formally get to vote at the convention. Clinton, for her part, is keeping her sights set on Donald Trump.
Let's bring in CNN's Chris Frates, live from Indianapolis this morning. Good morning, Chris.
CHRIS FRATES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey, good morning, John.
Bernie Sanders continues to campaign hard here in Indiana, trying to close that gap with Hillary Clinton and win this nomination, although that's a feat even he is now acknowledging is a long shot. If you take a look at the math, you really start to understand why he has to win almost all the delegates remaining in order to wrap up this nomination.
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SANDERS: That is admittedly, and I do not deny it for a second, a tough road to climb, but it is not an impossible road to climb. And we intend to fight for every vote in front of us, and for every delegate remaining.
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FRATES: Now, Bernie Sanders is calling on the super delegates in the states that he won to support him, but even if those Democratic power brokers were to switch sides the math still doesn't work out for Bernie Sanders. And the polls also aren't looking much better for him.
If you look at the latest NBC poll here in Indiana, he's trailing Clinton by 50-46. And that might explain why Hillary Clinton isn't even campaigning here in Indiana today and shifted her focus from Sanders to Donald Trump, railing against him and saying he's inciting violence at his allies. Trump firing back against Clinton, continuing to call her Crooked Hillary and saying he's going to use some of the same lines of attack in a general election that Bernie Sanders has used against her in this primary.
Now, Sanders has defended himself against that, saying that he'll do whatever it takes to stop Donald Trump or the GOP nominee, but it looks like he'll do everything other than get out of this race early to clear the field. Bernie Sanders saying he's in it til the end. He's going to stay until June, Chris.
CUOMO: Chris Frates, appreciate it. Thank you very much.
We want to get you to another story this morning. This hit on this Syrian hospital matters. We want to show you surveillance video from the moment of the airstrike. There's no question that the pictures there from U.K.'s Channel 4, they might be difficult for some to watch, but you need to remember what happened there, because they're still trying to sort out who is responsible. One camera captures the final moments, Doctor Mohammed Moaz's
life. These are his last moments. He was the last pediatrician in Aleppo, just seconds after he walks out of frame, that's when the missile hits. He was among 50 people killed.
U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry is in Geneva, Switzerland. There's no more information yet coming from the U.S. government about who did this, but he says he is trying to resume cease-fire talks there.
CAMEROTA: Severe weather to tell you about. Heavy rain, strong winds, lightning hitting parts of the South and Midwest. Indiana had large hail. The Indianapolis airport was under a shelter in place order, because of a tornado warning.
CNN meteorologist Chad Myers joins us now with the latest forecast. How's it look today, Chad?
CHAD MYERS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Alisyn, better for the South than for Texas and Louisiana, where the flooding over the weekend was just tremendous. Some of the pictures we'll show you later. Just unbelievable how much water was on the ground.
Now that water is heading to Philadelphia, to D.C. There will be some storms here even into New York City. Right now it's upstate and also western Pennsylvania, but there will be some severe weather later on this afternoon. If you're flying in or out, there could be delays.
Down in the south, severe thunderstorm watch. There still could be more severe weather down here where it's already flooded, more rain on top of places that they just don't need more rain. There you go. From Charlotte, all the way up to almost New York City, the risk of severe weather as that front comes in this afternoon. There it comes, and there it goes. It will be quick, but tell you what: it doesn't take much if you're outside. Could be a lot of lightning out there. Make sure you have someplace to take cover. The rain will continue, and so will the good weather. It will eventually get better as the front goes by and I'm predicting a fast and dry Kentucky derby for the middle part of the country for Louisville for this Saturday -- Chris.
CUOMO: Louisville. Well said. Well said. You avoided some nasty e-mails there, my friend.
MYERS: Oh, I'll get some. Don't worry.
CUOMO: From me! We'll check back in a little bit.
CUOMO: All right. So you know who finally weighed in the race, really just giving it to everybody? President Obama. Now, it was all in jest at the White House Correspondents' Dinner, or was it? We're going to take a look at the impact of POTUS on the race. He got a lot of laughs, but did any of that stink stick? Next.
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CUOMO: So it was the final nerd prom -- that's what they call the White House Correspondents' Dinner -- for President Obama, and, man, he came out with the dukes up. He was taking no prisoners. You know, it's a chance for him to be funny, but it was bitingly funny about Republicans and Democrats. A taste.
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OBAMA: It is surprising. You've got a room full of reporters, celebrities, cameras, and he says no. Is this dinner too tacky for the Donald? What could he possibly be doing instead? Is he at home eating a Trump steak? Tweeting out insults to Angela Merkel?
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CUOMO: All right. Let's discuss. I really just want to play more of this, but I'm going to bring you in anyway and we'll try and do it intellectually. We've got Matt Lewis, David Gregory, and Maeve Reston again.
Which one do you want to play next? He went after everybody.
CAMEROTA: Right. I want to play the one that he talked -- where he made fun of Hillary Clinton.
CUOMO: OK.
CAMEROTA: Let's listen to this.
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OBAMA: You've got to admit it, though. Hillary trying to appeal to young voters is a little bit like your relative who just signed up for Facebook. You know? "Dear America, did you get my poke? Is it appearing on your wall? I'm not sure I'm using this right. Love, Aunt Hillary."
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CAMEROTA: So, David, I mean, the president got a lot of kudos for his timing and comedic style. Does any of this have relevance to the race?
GREGORY: This reminds me of Cuomo making fun of my luggage. Honestly.
CUOMO: No. That wasn't a joke. That wasn't a joke. It's a violation. A 6'5" man does not walk through an airport with a little gingham bag or whatever that was you had there.
GREGORY: No. But I do think that he was letting loose in a particular way of, you know, a final year of his presidency. A guy who does not like these dinners and is showing up and really letting loose.
You know, he had a line that was pretty supportive of Hillary Clinton a little bit earlier. But no doubt having fun with some of her struggles, and with Trump, the combination of not just loving the opportunity to go after him, but wanting to lapse into some serious criticism at any point about what he thinks is a complete fail on the part of the news media. So you definitely got that, just beneath the surface.
CUOMO: Which one do you want? Do you want Sanders or Cruz?
GREGORY: Let's start with Cruz. I enjoyed this one, as well. Let's play it.
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OBAMA: Ted had a tough week. He went to Indiana. Hoosier country. Stood on a basketball court, and called the hoop a basketball ring. What else is in his lexicon? Baseball sticks? Football hats? But, sure, I'm the foreign one.
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CAMEROTA: I love it!
That was good. Maeve, I mean, again, you know, hilarious, but does that stick, does that hurt at all?
RESTON: Well, it was just such a brilliant joke, because obviously, the -- you know, the birth certificate thing has clouded Obama's entire presidency, and to turn it like that on Ted Cruz who, of course, Trump likes to remind us was born in Canada, was just hilarious.
And I think what was so sort of successful about the president's speech was that he really did kind of take an even hand to everybody. You know, certainly, Hillary Clinton, referring to Bernie Sanders in the audience as his comrade. You know? And then -- then going after Trump, but not going too far. Really giving it to Ted Cruz. And I think that's why it went over so well in the room. Funny...
[06:25:06] CUOMO: It was not uneven. He was not uneven.
I don't care what anybody said, the Internet is going to be filled with everybody seeing some kind of, like, pattern of jaundice in there. I thought he was light on Donald, if anything.
RESTON: Me, too.
CUOMO: The comrade thing was funny. Do we have time for that?
This is the Bernie Sanders/comrade joke.
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OBAMA: Bernie, you look like a million bucks. Or to put it in terms you'll understand, you look like 37,000 donations of $27 each.
I am hurt, though, Bernie, that you've been distancing yourself a little from me. I mean, that's just not something that you do to your comrade. (END VIDEO CLIP)
CUOMO: Oh! I love it.
So, Matt Lewis, are these -- are these the kind of jokes, you know, are they going to be recycled and be like, Obama admitted that he's a socialist and Bernie smiled, you know, and he's a communist. What do you think the impact is? Or is it just a good laugh and leave it at that?
LEWIS: Probably just a good laugh, and I have to say, I mean, obviously, he's got a good delivery. He's good at this. He's a performer. But good comedy does have an element of truth to it. And that's really the common theme. You know, these are not non- sequiturs. If you look at all of them, Hillary does come across as a little bit older and maybe out of touch with young people.
CAMEROTA: And technology.
LEWIS: Technology, yes. Ted Cruz comes across as a little bit weird, and Bernie Sanders comes across as an aging socialist.
CUOMO: Doesn't come across as one. He says he's one.
LEWIS: Underline the comedy, it's truth.
CAMEROTA: There you go.
CUOMO: David Gregory comes across as a little odd, being a big guy walking through an airport with a little purse and a dog under his hand. These are odd things. You know?
GREGORY: I can take it. I can take it. Unlike the people in that room. You know? It's a tough crowd. I can take it.
CUOMO: When you bought the luggage you needed to have to make that decision.
CAMEROTA: Guys -- panel, on that note, we'll leave it there. Thank you very much.
You can keep up with all the latest political news and the state of the race. You can download the new CNN Politics app available now on the app store for free, including complete coverage of the White House Correspondents' Dinner and the latest on the delegate race from both sides of the race.
There's nothing Chris enjoys more than David Gregory's violations of the man law.
BERMAN: And puce was the vocabulary word in the Cuomo house this morning. So you know, it worked out well.
Prince's family will be in court this morning for a hearing on what happens to the late singer's estate. We are already hearing that his siblings are fighting about details. We'll tell you when NEW DAY continues.
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