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GOP Divison over Trump Examined; Latest jobs Report. Aired 8:30-9a ET

Aired May 06, 2016 - 08:30   ET

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JEFFREY LORD, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: And I really think this divide, you see that my voice this morning, it's a little overrated

[08:30:08] I mean, you read some of this, you've said this about, you know, the threat of China and all of this kind of thing it sounds like Donald Trump. So I don't think there is all that much of a problem here.

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: So then why won't he support Donald Trump yet?

LORD: Well, this is where I think he's got a problem here, you know, one of the curious things that I noted here is that he said Paul Ryan like myself worked for Jack Kemp and he said this is the party of the Lincoln, Reagan and Jack Kemp.

Well, excuse me, what happened to the Bush's there? Suddenly it seemed the Bush's were being over -- thrown over the board, over the edge of the rail here. Not unlike Donald Trump has done it.

So I found that very curious. But I think Paul Ryan will come around. But specularly speaking if he is not going to do it, then he shouldn't be a speaker.

JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: So you agree with Katrina Pearson? You say in DonaldTrump supporters says that if Paul Ryan doesn't get on board he can't -- you said Paul Ryan should not be speaker if he doesn't support Donald Trump.

LORD: If he doesn't support the nominee of the Republican Party as selected by the voters of the Republican Party, he shouldn't be speaker of the house for sure.

BERMAN: S. E. Cupp, in respond to that and also responded his new tweet from Donald Trump and that got just a moments ago. Again, they don't seem to be trying to mend fences here with Paul Ryan.

"Paul Ryan said that I inherited something very special, the Republican Party. Wrong. I didn't inherit it. I won it with millions of voters." He did win the Republican primary, S.E.

S.E. CUPP, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, yeah, but there is this idea that, OK, so Donald Trump has the support of just under half of the party. And yet, there is this idea that the other 60 percent need to just sort of take their principles off like a jacket, and hop on board the Trump train.

And what Paul Ryan said yesterday, and I know the speaker and he is a deeply committed Conservative who cares a lot about the future of the party.

LORD: I agree.

CUPP: What he said yesterday was help me help you. Help me Donald Trump, help you get the rest of the party behind you and to do that, you have to become a candidate that Republicans can be proud of.

There wasn't this idea that Paul Ryan was dismissing Donald Trump in all of his voters. He was saying don't dismiss us.

And I think that's really an important part of the message, both to Donald Trump and his supporters. We won't dismiss you but you can't dismiss us as well.

CAMEROTA: Anna, how do you see it?

ANA NAVARO, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Hello there. If Paul Ryan isn't fit to be speaker then I think you're also going to have to get rid of a significant number of Republican Congress people and senators who do not want to support this Donald Trump that we have seen through the primaries.

I can tell you that here in South Florida there is a great deal of difficulty by the congressional members in accepting a Donald Trump.

One member, Carlos Carbello has already said publicly that he is not supporting him.

So I think Paul Ryan is frankly reflecting the feelings of his Congress people, of his voters, his constituencies are not only the American people, but also the people in Congress and I think he is sending them a message, "Hey, folks, worry about your races all politics is local and do not feel compelled to follow blindly a nominee who may not represent your values, your convictions and your principles."

I think that Paul Ryan is giving an incredible example of showing that you will lead with your heart. You will lead with your convictions. This is a man who has spent his entire career, since he was very young, building bridges, not building walls, trying to make the Republican Party inclusive. Trying to make sure people like me feel included in the Republican Party.

I don't think it's about policy, Jeffrey, that's what you're, you know, I think you're missing it. And look Paul Ryan was Mitt Romney's Vice-President and they had big differences on issues like immigration. But they shared core values on life. That is where the problem lice with Donald Trump.

LORD: Ana, there were Conservatives who had problems with Mitt Romney but they voted for him nonetheless and they supported him. I was one of them. I mean I support the party nominee, if Ted Cruz had been the nominee, I would have been there. I mean this business that millions of people vote for somebody to be the nominee, and then suddenly, they're all wrong and we're going to abandon the guy because we lost an election, that's just not the way this is supposed to be done.

BERMAN: S.E. I want S.E., I want to get ...

NAVARO: Nobody is saying that many people are wrong. What people are saying is he doesn't represent me.

BERMAN: S.E. I want you a chance to get in here in this argument and also, just discuss the general environment of these two have been going after each other with.

CUPP: Well, look I think at the end of the day, most Republicans and Democrats are partisans and that has a bad connotation, that's not how I mean it.

What I mean is that at the end of the day, most people are going to vote for the good of the party. And what you saw with Rick Perry endorsing Donald Trump, I think you're going to see repeated. The irony added to a pile of ironies this season.

[08:35:01] The irony though, is that in Donald Trump, we've had a candidate who cares very little for the party.

Remember, he had to be forced to sign a pledge to run as a Republican. He has spent the past 10 months criticizing the party as a rigged system, criticizing its leaders as losers. Criticizing the leader of the RNC, saying he should be ashamed of himself.

I mean the loyalty that Donald Trump has for the party is not matched by the loyalty that many are invoking by saying they will get on board and join the Trump train, even reluctantly. So I would just caution a lot of people, thinking that they're getting on board for the good of the party, when their candidate does not share the same affinity.

CAMEROTA: Ana, we know you've been spending a lot time in the fetal position, sucking your thumb. And you seem to be now transitioning into a different stage of grief. You tweeted this out, which looks like you've gone from despondent to angry, I guess, you say I don't want to vote, I don't like these people.

NAVARO: No, you can go ahead and classify me as distraught. Look, this is a difficult, difficult position for many of us, OK. Like Rudy Fernandez who spoke last hour on your show, I have voted Republican since I've been able to vote.

Since I became a naturalized citizen, I have voted for the Republican presidential nominee. And this idea that my Republican presidential nominee is Donald Trump, who I feel is unstable, is very difficult to embrace. It's very difficult to wrap my arms around.

The problem that many of us have is that we don't have where to turn to.

Now, the other thing, though, is that I don't have the luxury of not going out and voting in November. I don't like any of these people. I don't like the presidential candidates. But I can tell you that I have congressional candidates and senate candidates that require and need my support, and Republicans need to go out and vote.

CAMEROTA: Yeah. Panel, thank you for all of your thoughts, this Friday, Have a great weekend, great to see you.

All right, just in to CNN, a brand new report on the employment picture from April. All of the presidential candidates. So we're talking about it today, so we have the details next.

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[08:41:15] CAMEROTA: This is breaking news to tell you about the labor department just releasing the jobs report for April and Chief Money correspondent Christine Romans is here with the numbers. How are they looking?

CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN MONEY CHIEF BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Hi there. You know, Jobs growth slowed actually in the month 160,000 net new jobs in April and you can see if you look at the trend you guys. That's a little weaker than many people have thought we would get. So something happened there in April, we're hiring slowed a little bit. Here is the difference, though. When you look at the unemployment rate, it is still 5 percent.

So the unemployment rate holding steady here even as job growth slowed a bit. I want to share these sectors where we saw a job growth, businesses and tech services this is a higher paying job category, a lot of jobs there, healthcare, a consistent performer in economy, mining, that's probably the crash in oil prices, manufacturing pretty much steady.

We lost a few retail jobs but that's what the mix (ph) looks like 160,000 net new jobs. When you think about it, over the past five years, we've averaged 207 new jobs every month, so 160,000 is a bit of a disappointed.

You can see the market is already a little bit lower heading into December. I don't see any big movement there for when the market opens. But I'll tell you that when you look at 160,000, I think this will become a political number.

You're going to start to hear people on their campaign trail say, "Oh, the job market is really a lot worse than these numbers show." But I think if you look at the longer term trend, you're looking around 200,000 consistently every month we'll have to see what next month looks like to see if this is the start of something new, guys.

BERMAN: All right, Christine Romans, thank you very much.

And at a more breaking news, right now, a huge rescue convoy getting underway in Western Canada, an entire city engulfed in flames, tens of thousands forced to flee this wildfire.

CNN's Paul Vercammen live in Edmonton this morning with the very latest. Paul.

PAUL VERCAMMEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, John, it must be clear, it's dozens of fires in Alberta, almost 50 fires raging, seven of them still out of control. Fire fighters, 1,100 of them on the lines, they're going to hit these fires with air tankers, 22 of them, hundreds bulldozer and helicopters, it's quite a fire fight.

And at the center of all this is Fort McMurray. Now that's the oil sands industry city that was just absolutely ravaged by the blaze. And in many instances people fleeing these flames, captured the essence of the orange monster of a fire on their dashboard cameras and more. Many of them describing this as a scene from the walking dead with stranded cars or Armageddon just something that was completely unfavorable and where do all these people go, well many of them come here to Edmondson, I'm in front of the expo center where many of them sheltered overnight on cots.

They hope to get a break in the weather. By the way john, it's a little cooler today, but still very dry and conditions are just windy.

Back now to Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: OK, what a situation Paul. Please keep us posted throughout day the.

Up next, Anthony Bourdain gives up the taste of a good life, a picture perfect island of the sun but dark cloud bloom on the horizon. I'll show you.

BERMAN: Good programming. Now, tomorrow at 7:00 p.m. be sure to watch the CNN Quiz Show, the anchors, some of them, test their '80s knowledge.

[08:44:19] Do not miss it.

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ANTHONY BOURDAIN, CNN HOST "ANTHONY BOURDAIN: PARTS UNKNOWN": There are a lot of countries where they're really, really poor but they're super serious about food.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Like where?

BOURDAIN: Like here.

Don't go very far.

People who are not Greek, come to the Greek islands for the first time, come to Naxos what should you do here?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm going to sing and dance. Don't tell me what you ate. Tell me who you ate with.

(END VIDEO CLIP) CUOMO: This Sunday's episode of Parts Unknown, Anthony Bourdain visits the Greek islands.

Tony joins us now to tell us all about it. How smart in the set up of this, everybody thinks they know about what's going on in Greece, but that's about the mainland. You go to the Greek isles. What did you learn?

BOURDAIN: Well, we were looking for something that wasn't a completely tourist driven economy, evangelic place presumably where they still fish and farm, and have an economy independent of tourism.

But it is largely because of tourism that they are doing reasonably well while the mainland is doing, you know, where all the tethering on the edge of economic apocalypse.

So it's sort of a constant in the show, we're I've been looking at awesome places and wondering how long they can stay awesome, you know. It's perfect, idealic seeming island, largely unspoiled, beautiful food, great people, wonderful traditions, a lot of ancient history. But the economy of the country has gone very, very badly, and refugees are starting to wash, literally wash up on the beaches. The country is in no position to ...

CUOMO: Take them.

BOURDAIN: To take them. So it's an interesting moment in time, when one of the last really, you know, beautiful and places on earth.

CUOMO: What did you find about personal identity among those who are from the Greek isles from the mainland?

[08:49:59] BOURDAIN: People from Naxos in particular do not really identify with people from the mainland and intend to take a dim view. Let's put it that way. They're very aware of their history going back to ancient Greece and Greek Mythology, yeah, I think a dim view would be checked.

CUOMO: And when you are there in terms of cuisine, that's also true in terms of their food adaptations, right, and how they prepare things and how they pair things as well.

BOURDAIN: Yeah, very, you know, beautiful -- a great philosophy of cooking. You know, great ingredients, do a little as possible to them. Try not to screw them up. But even there, the pressure builds, as fish stock deplete, the European Union is literally paying traditional fishing families to not fish which is kind of crazy.

CUOMO: It is kind of crazy, but, you know, the agency there it's on depletion of the stock. There's going to be a lot a whole fish there, we saw some ...

BOURDAIN: Yes.

CUOMO: What do you say that people in there like "I love fish," but, you know, the whole fish I'm afraid that the bones, the eye is looking at me.

BOURDAIN: As a chef, I use to just -- when I hear that, people would send back a beautiful whole roasted fish, you know, I said I don't want it looking at me. I would die a little inside every time I heard that, because it really is so much better cooked on the bone. And you know, if you can't handle a few fish bones, there is really hope for humanity in my view.

CUOMO: Tony Bourdain, thank you very much for taking us through this. The Greek isles so different than the mainland, politically, economically, certainly, but also culturally, was that your idea to go to the Greek isles?

BOURDAIN: Yes, but I figured this would be a good way to slide into a new season.

CUOMO: Very good. Tony Bourdain, always thinking. So please make sure to drink, dance and eat Greek food, with the man, Tony Bourdain, on "Parts Unknown" this Sunday 9:00 p.m. only on CNN. Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: That made me happy and hungry. Chad Pregracke CNN's hero of the year in 2013 hit a major milestone this week. You may recall that Chad turned his passion into a nonprofit and he is having a major impact.

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CHAD PREGRACKE, CNN HERO: I started the million trees program just from being out here in the islands of the Mississippi river. We started planting these trees to create more food for wildlife.

They hold back the banks and the river, it helps air quality. The roots actually filter the water. Trees are a great thing. And I really like trees.

What I love about it is, it has a lasting impact. One tree is really good, but I think a million is even better.

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CAMEROTA: OK, so where was that one millionth tree planted for the answer, go to cnnheroes.com and nominate someone you think should be our 2016 CNN hero.

BERMAN: Right, do it now.

Up next. Beyond the call of duty a police officer who served in life, and in death.

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[08:57:16] BERMAN: Colorado police officer killed in a line of duty but in death he gave life to others, kept on life support so his organs could be harvested and donated.

CNN's Kyung Lah, has the story. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have an officer down. I have a wound to the face.

KYUNG LAH, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: February 8th, Grand Junction, Colorado. Mesa County Deputy, Derek Geer trying to arrest an armed suspect in this neighborhood.

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LAH: Shot multiple times, at close range.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No pulse at this time. Officer down.

KATE GEER, DEPUTY GEER'S WODIW: We got to the E.R.

LAH: Kate Geer, is Deputy Geer's wife.

GEER: And wanted to see him. They had him on basically on life support, but I think in my heart, I knew he was gone.

LAH: That wasn't the end, really for him.

GEER: No.

LAH: It was the beginning of an extraordinary gift from a life already dedicated to serving others. First, the navy, then ...

Why did he want to be a cop?

GEER: I think he just -- as a protector, he is a natural protector.

LAH: Protector of his wife, son Ian and adopted daughter Maisie. He donated his time to children. And he told Kate if something ever happened he would never stop giving.

February 8, that moment came.

GEER: He was kept on life support for two more days to harvest his organs for donors.

LAH: Buried without his heart, his liver or kidneys, Deputy Geer's organs would travel to four patients on the transplant list, his death and funeral unfolding on the local news.

ALAN BRONSON: When I was actually watching it and what I was saying to myself was I hope it's not him.

LAH: Watching from his hospital bed, 54-year-old Alan Bronson, near death, he only recently learned whose heart now beats in his chest.

BRONSON: Then realizing that somebody had to pass for you, I mean, that's hard. It's hard to realize that. And sometimes you wonder if you're worthy of it, you know.

LAH: To the heart recipient who probably would have died without that heart, is there anything you want to tell him.

GEER: You have the heart of the greatest man. His heart was big enough for anything.

LAH: For one life, and another that now lives on.

Kyung Lah, CNN, Grand Junction, Colorado.

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CAMEROTA: Wow.

BERMAN: The heart of a great man.

CAMEROTA: That was a beautiful story.

BERMAN: Lovely. Important lessons I think there for everybody. Organ donation is so important.

CAMEROTA: I think so too. Make sure your heart is up to date.

John, thanks for being with here.

BERMAN: Great to be here with you.

CAMEROTA: Thank you so much for that and a time now for NEWSROOM with Pamela Brown, in for Carol Costello. Have a great weekend.

[09:00:00] PAMELA BROWN, CNN ANCHOR: Thanks so much Alisyn and John. Newsroom starts right now.

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DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANIDATE: Are you going to be so happy? You're going to be so happy, they said you're now the nominee.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You have a presumptive nominee Donald Trump.