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Bernie Sanders Wins West Virginia Democratic Primary; Donald Trump to Meet with House Speaker Paul Ryan; Interview with Arizona State Treasurer Jeff DeWit; DEA & Sheriff Execute Search Warrant At Prince's Home; Warning Signs for Trump & Clinton. Aired 8-8:30a ET

Aired May 11, 2016 - 08:00   ET

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BERNIE SANDERS, (D-VT) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We are in this campaign to win.

JOE BIDEN, (D) VICE PRESIDENT: I feel confident she'll be the next president.

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ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo and Alisyn Camerota.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning. Welcome to your NEW DAY. It is Wednesday, May 11th, 8:00 in the east. J.B. is with Alisyn and me this morning.

And up first we're talking about Donald Trump, who now certainly is closer to clinching the GOP nomination. Bernie Sanders also staying alive by beating Hillary Clinton in West Virginia handily last night. Sanders telling supporters he is in this for one reason -- to win. Now, math may not be on his side, but he has momentum. Certainly that is a building concern for the Clinton campaign.

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: OK, in the GOP race Trump running away with the West Virginia and Nebraska primaries. All eyes now on Trump's meeting tomorrow with House Speaker Paul Ryan. Trump insisting he wants Ryan on his side when the convention rolls around this summer. We have the primaries and the 2016 race covered the way only CNN can. Let's begin with John Berman, who breaks down last night's results. What do you have, John?

JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: Donald Trump finished first in a one man race, Alisyn. Let's look right now at West Virginia and Nebraska. Yes, Ted Cruz and John Kasich still on the ballot, but they dropped out, so it didn't mean very much. You got 76 percent Trump in West Virginia, in Nebraska you can see he had 61 percent there.

As for the Democrats, a much different story. This very much still a race, a race that Bernie Sanders won in West Virginia by 15 points. That's big. But what does that mean for the delegates? Not big at all. He netted just five delegates in West Virginia. That's the problem for the Sanders campaign right now.

As for the Republicans, Donald Trump got at least 39 delegates out of his wins, that is going to end up going way up once West Virginia works out its convoluted process. The total delegate race right now, Donald Trump getting much, much closer to the 1,237 he needs to clinch the nomination. That will happen over the next month.

And as for the Democrats, Hillary Clinton right now still with a big edge over Bernie Sanders, especially when you include the super delegates. When you do include the super delegates, she is 148 away from that number she needs to clinch the nomination, 2,383. The Sanders team says super delegates can flip, but they haven't flipped yet, and he will need to flip them if he has any chance of getting the nomination. Chris, that will be tough if not near impossible.

CUOMO: All right, J.B., thank you very much.

Donald Trump last night was uncontested in the GOP race. Yes, Kasich and Cruz were on the ballots, but the victories were huge in Nebraska and West Virginia, of course. The frontrunner squarely focusing on tomorrow's high stakes meeting with House Speaker Paul Ryan and the RNC chairman. This as two of his rivals actually jumped back into the spotlight to sound off on Trump's success. Where are they in terms of embracing Mr. Trump? CNN's Sunlen Serfaty live in Washington with more.

SUNLEN SERFATY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Chris. Tomorrow is such an important day for Donald Trump. He became the presumptive nominee with just a small group of support on Capitol Hill. So now as he is trying to unify the party around him, he'll be making this direct, very face-to-face pitch directly to Republican leaders on the Hill for them to come around and support him.

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SERFATY: Days before their big meeting, Donald Trump softening his tone and sounding more conciliatory about House Speaker Paul Ryan's role at the Republican National Convention.

DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: He is a very good man. He wants what's good for the party. And I think we're going to have positive results. I would love, frankly, for him to stay and be chairman.

SERFATY: Responding to Ryan's assurance that he would step down as chairman if Trump wanted him to.

REP. PAUL RYAN, (R) SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES: We shouldn't just pretend that our party is unified when we know it is not.

SERFATY: In an interview with the "Wall Street Journal" Ryan said he hopes they can unite the party after a bruising battle. RYAN: What we want to do is sit down together and talk about how we

can unify the Republican Party so that we can be at full strength in the fall.

SERFATY: Trump also in the throes of preparing for the general election, narrowing down his list of potential running mates. One person definitely not interested in the job, former rival Marco Rubio. In his first national interview since dropping out of the race, the senator telling CNN's Jake Tapper --

SEN. MARCO RUBIO, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: My differences with Donald, both my reservations about his campaign and me policy differences with him are well documented and they remain.

SERFATY: Rubio signaling that his support of Trump is a matter of honoring his word.

RUBIO: I signed a pledge that said I would support the Republican nominee, and I intend to continue to do that.

SERFATY: Trump's fiercest former rival, Senator Ted Cruz, returning to Capitol Hill and leaving a window open for possibly jumping back into the race.

SEN. TED CRUZ, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We've suspended the campaign, because I can see no viable path to victory. Of course, if that changed, we would reconsider things.

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[08:05:00] SERFATY: And Donald Trump this morning is reacting to his wins last night, tweeting out just moments ago, quote, "Big wins in West Virginia and Nebraska. Get ready for November. Crooked Hillary, who is looking bad against crazy Bernie, will lose." And then following that tweet up on another with Bernie Sanders, quote, "I don't want to hit crazy Bernie Sanders too hard yet because I love watching what he is doing to crooked Hillary." adding "his time will come." Alisyn?

CAMEROTA: OK, Sunlen, thank you for that.

Bernie Sanders winning his 19th state last night in West Virginia, and prolonging the primary fight with Hillary Clinton, forcing her to split her attention between Sanders and Donald Trump. CNN's Chris Frates is live in Washington with more. Hi, Chris.

CHRIS FRATES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Alisyn. So Bernie Sanders had another good primary night last night. He won the majority of the 29 delegates that were up for grabs in West Virginia. But Sanders really faces long odds in his campaign to upset Hillary Clinton who leads him by about 300 pledged delegates.

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BERNIE SANDERS, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We are good in arithmetic that we have an uphill climb ahead of us. But we are used to fighting uphill climbs.

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FRATES: Now, a campaign aide tells me they think Sanders can beat the odds by racking up more big victories and convincing the party's super delegates that he has the best chance of defeating Donald Trump in November. And a recent poll shows Sanders does fair better than Clinton in the general election match-up against Trump in three different battleground states. But that didn't stop Vice President Joe Biden from putting his finger on the scale yesterday for Secretary Clinton.

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JOE BIDEN, (D) VICE PRESIDENT: I feel confident that Hillary will be the nominee and I feel confident she'll be the next president.

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FRATES: Now, Clinton plans to campaign hard against Sanders in upcoming contests and she's going to focus on New Jersey and California. But she'll also continue looking toward November and taking on Donald Trump. And Sanders, he also slammed Trump in his victory speech. So even as Clinton and Sanders continue to run against each other, they're increasing targeting Trump. Mr. Cuomo, back to you.

CUOMO: Thank you, sir. Appreciate the reporting.

All right, let's talk about the immediate challenge facing Donald Trump uniting his fractured party. Joining us Arizona campaign chairman for Trump and Arizona State Treasurer Jeff DeWit. Good to see you, sir. Good to have you on NEW DAY as always.

JEFF DEWIT, ARIZONA STATE TREASURER: Great to see you, Chris. Thank you.

CUOMO: Congratulations on the win last night, as we wish all the winning campaigns. Let's look at a number out of there. Nebraska exit poll, feeling if Trump elected president, 60 percent excited, optimistic, 38 percent scared, concerned, both numbers revealing of a dynamic here. That 60 percent, what does that tell about what Trump offers the party.

DEWIT: That's the number you need to win right there. But Trump is the leader of a movement. I've been saying this for a long time. This is not a normal candidacy. He's the leader of a movement to take out country back, quite honestly, from the politics and from the disastrous policies that we've been living under. So that just shows right there that the American public is ready for a change and are excited to get him in the White House.

CUOMO: What does it mean to you when you square that notion against President Obama being above 50 percent popularity right now, and you know a huge chunk of the Democrats, even with some independents, looking at his policies as something should be continued?

DEWIT: Well, they'll have that chance to vote for Hillary Clinton. I think her entire campaign seems like she is running on a continuation of the current policies. I and many people that I know think those policies are leading us in the wrong direction, and the $19 trillion in debt that will soon be $21 trillion and all of that that we're piling onto our children needs to change. And that's why we want someone like Donald Trump.

Donald Trump is the answer for us to get rid of the politicians in the White House and put in a CEO. I think our country needs a business leader and he's going to do things differently. That's the direction we're headed. And I think it's going to be a wave of that going across the country in the fall.

CUOMO: So the flip side of the 60 percent optimistic is the 38 percent concerned or scared, which lead us to the next exit poll, do you think the Republican Party is going to unite or remain divided. You got 50/50 response on that. And that takes us to his immediate challenge, which is how do I get my brothers and sisters in the party on board? Give me the thinking of having Carson being the front man to go and meet with Ryan, and what do you see as the stage is set here for this meeting?

DEWIT: Well, Dr. Carson, as we all know, one of the most likeable candidates that we had last fall. And that also shows you that it's not just about likability. Everyone focuses on the likability factor. But Dr. Ben Carson is a very, very smart man, and it is great to have him on the team right now. And yes, to have him go and talk to Paul Ryan and kind of lay some of the groundwork, I don't know if you could have many people better in the country at that than Dr. Carson. So he is a great person to have on board.

[08:10:07] But I'll tell you, another exit poll that I saw last night was one that said two-thirds of Nebraskans feel betrayed by Republican Party politicians. And so even within the party, we need to do something differently.

And so when you look at the upcoming meeting with Donald Trump and with speaker Ryan, you know, I think Speaker Ryan needs this meeting to go well more than Donald Trump does. I know they both want it to go well, and they'll need to work hand in hand to implement policies in the first 100 days and throughout the Trump presidency, but Speaker Ryan is leading a Congress that has one of the lowest approval ratings in history, and Donald Trump is leading a movement where he's getting records in the turnout in the votes that he's getting for a Republican primary.

So I think Speaker Ryan needs this to go better. But, you know, I think we're going to get unity, we'll absolutely get unity, because I can unite the Republican Party in two words, and that is "President Hillary." And just saying those two things to any Republican gets them on board, saying, yes, you're right, we need to vote for the Republican nominee. But again, they won't be unanimous. I don't think it has been unanimous ever in history. You'll find the naysayers somewhere, they oppose their own party for whatever reasons. But we will have unity in the fall and I don't think it is going to be a problem. I think Donald Trump is going to have a very, very big win in the fall when we get there.

CUOMO: Well, look, what is on the table here? It's about values, true conservative ones, and for Ryan in particular, this is a man who is looking to grow the tent of the Republican Party, stop saying we're the party of exclusion, we're about inclusion, let's bring Latinos in. And that's were of course a lot of the immigrant talk and about Muslims as a group with Donald Trump may be a concern for him.

Now, on that note, Jeff, we just heard from Sadiq Khan in an interview with Christiane Amanpour, he is the new Muslim mayor of London. Here is what he had to say about Trump. I want your reaction to it.

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SADIQ KHAN, MAYOR OF LONDON: London has chosen hope over fear. I'm really proud that London chose unity over division. And my message to Donald Trump and his team is that, you know, your views of Islam are ignorant, and it's possible to be a Muslim and to live in the west. And it's possible to be a Muslim and to love America. I've got family members who are American. We've been to America for holiday, my kids used to love Disneyland. I'm scared of some of the rides. We still love going to Disneyland.

I'm not exceptional. For Donald Trump to say Mayor Khan can be allowed, but the rest, that's ridiculous. There are business people here who want to do business in America who happened to be Muslim. There are young people here who want to study in America who happen to be Muslim. There are people here who want to go to holiday in America who happened to be Muslim, and around the world. By giving the impression that Islam and the west are incompatible, you're playing into the hands of the extremists.

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CUOMO: Is it time for Mr. Trump to revise, as he said he may do, he says he's flexible, he says he may change in the general. Is it time for him to change what he has been saying about Muslims in light of what you just heard from London's new mayor?

DEWIT: Well, again, you know, we all know, everybody knows there is a big, big difference between a Muslim and a radical Islamic terrorist. And what we're trying do, and what Mr. Trump is trying to do is saying we need to make sure we protect ourselves from radical Islamic terrorism, a phrase that our current president seems unable to say. So you know, he has gone far --

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CUOMO: He has gone farther in that that, Mr. Trump has gone farther than just saying we have a problem with Islamic extremism. We should say those words. He said that Islam is a problem. We've got to figure it out, otherwise the mayor would be making this up. It comes from somewhere, his concern, right? DEWIT: What Mr. Trump keeps saying is we want to protect our borders

and control the immigration. We have Syrian refugees coming in that that we know nothing about. We don't know if they're terrorists or not. So if we're going to allow people to move into the neighborhoods and next to our families and our kids, we should at least know that they're terrorists. That's the thing. So, you know, we all know there are many, I mean, the vast, vast majority of Muslim, and I have Muslim friends, they're great. They're peace loving, they're great people. But we need to make sure, and this is what Mr. Trump is saying, that he wants to make sure the people coming here are not terrorists. That's the bottom line. And so to paint that with a broad brush just shows the mischaracterization of his comments.

CUOMO: Always something to clarify at the least. Jeff DeWit, appreciate you being on NEW DAY as always.

DEWIT: Thank you, Chris. Thanks for having me.

CUOMO: John?

BERMAN: Thanks, Chris.

New information in the investigation into the death of Prince.

[08:15:00] A search warrant revealing the name of the Minnesota doctor, a Minnesota doctor, who treated him in the final weeks of his life. According to a sworn statement, Dr. Michael Schulenberg visited Prince's estate to deliver test results the same morning he died.

CNN's Sara Sidner live in Minnesota. Good morning.

SARA SIDNER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, John.

"The L.A. Times" got ahold of the search warrant which was posted on May 6th. And basically what it shows is that investigators wanted to look at a multitude of things having to do with Prince's medical history -- photographs, charts -- anything that can tell them how he was doing before he died, including prescriptions.

And what we learned from inside of that particular document is that a judge granted that search warrant in part because he said the property above described constitutes evidence which tends to show a crime has been committed, or tends to show a particular person has committed a crime.

Now, so far, no one has been charged in this case, but the warrant does note Dr. Michael Schulenberg was interviewed on the day Prince died. He admitted to having treated him a couple of times, including doing some tests on him the day before he died.

The warrant also indicates Dr. Schulenberg was here at the Paisley Park compound the day he died, along with a couple of other people, when he was discovered dead inside the elevator.

It also says that he prescribed medications to Prince that were filled at a Walgreen's. There is a lot going on with the investigation. DEA and sheriff's department inside the compound yesterday, doing more searches, and there is plenty more going on, but everybody is waiting to find out what the toxicology report is going to say -- John.

BERMAN: All right. Sara Sidner for us in Minnesota, thanks so much. A lot of questions there.

Join us tonight for a special "Prescription Addiction: Made in the USA", hosted by Anderson Cooper and Dr. Sanjay Gupta. It's 9:00 Eastern Time, right here on CNN, talks about a lot of the questions raised by the death of Prince about abuse and addiction, and dependence on painkillers.

CAMEROTA: I can't wait to see that.

All right, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump getting historically high ratings, high unfavorable ratings. We'll look at some of the possible warning signs with David Axelrod, next.

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[08:20:57] SANDERS: We think we have an outside shot of actually end up with more pledged delegates than Secretary Clinton. We understand it is a steep hill to climb, but I've been climbing steep hills since the first day that I was in the campaign.

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CAMEROTA: All right, Bernie Sanders picking up another win in West Virginia last night. But Hillary Clinton is still the far away leader in delegates.

Meanwhile, Donald Trump winning two GOP contests and closing in on the magic 1,237 number.

There are warning signs ahead for all of the candidates. Let's discuss those with David Axelrod. He's a CNN senior political commentator and former senior advisor to President Obama.

Good morning, David.

DAVID AXELROD, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Good morning.

CAMEROTA: OK. So even if the math is challenging for Bernie Sanders and it would be hard for him to beat Hillary Clinton in pledged delegates or particularly super delegate, the fact that he won his 19th state, what does it do to Hillary Clinton's momentum and to her campaign?

AXELROD: I'm not sure that it does that much to it. I mean, he has run a great campaign. I don't want to take anything away from Bernie Sanders. What he is saying about overtaking her in pledged delegates is crazy. I have a better chance of dancing in the Bolshoi ballet of overtaking Hillary Clinton.

CAMEROTA: Thank you for that visual.

AXELROD: But, in terms of what this does to her moving forward, I recall 2008 when we were running against Hillary Clinton, and I was working for Barack Obama, and she won four of the last six primaries. She won Kentucky and West Virginia by larger margins than Bernie Sanders won yesterday.

And there were plenty of speculation and conversations like this, where people say what does it mean? It doesn't mean that much, because West Virginia hasn't voted for a Democratic for the last four elections. Not going to vote for a Democratic in this election.

But obviously, the optics are, you don't want to go into a general election on a string of losses. She's going to win a few going forward, and California will be important in terms of just sending a signal at the end of this.

But she's going to be the nominee. This will be in the rear view mirror. Her big problem is Donald Trump and that's what she has to focus on now.

CUOMO: Well, but they wind of dove tailing a little, right. In 2008, Hillary won 23 states. Bernie is at 19 right now. He could wind up winning 24, maybe 25.

But there is a different dynamic, which is that Donald Trump is now starting to use what Bernie Sanders says, and the example of what Bernie Sanders represents in the Democratic Party against Hillary Clinton. You didn't have that much in 2008.

How does that factor in?

AXELROD: Well, I think that you know, this is a concern of the Clinton folks, which is at what point is Bernie giving aid and comfort to Trump through his campaign and this is something you hear from him.

I suspect that in the fall, Bernie Sanders will be out there making clear what his views are of Donald Trump and he has been pretty hard on Donald Trump now.

The biggest applause line he got last night in Oregon was when he said we must defeat Donald Trump. And I thought that was a clue as to where all of this may be going.

I think the Democratic base is going to consolidate, and Hillary Clinton is going to do well among Democrats. She has to also do well among independents, and that's the battleground among moderate voters, independent voters, voters who could go either way.

CAMEROTA: And also, she is going to need Sanders supporters to get comfortable and get on board her campaign at some point. There was an interesting exit poll from West Virginia last night that asked people who voted for Sanders, if Sanders were not in the race, who would you vote for in November. And 43 percent of them said Donald Trump. Only 27 percent said Hillary Clinton.

Now, maybe that's because it lien leans Republican, or is that because she hasn't won them over yet?

[08:25:00] AXELROD: I think what's interesting about the exit polls is that a percentage of fairly significant percentage of Sanders voters also said they would vote for Trump against Sanders.

I mean, Donald Trump has a base of support among white working class voters, non-college educated whites. That's been true from the beginning. And West Virginia would be ground zero for that kind of support.

So, look, I won't extrapolate. I don't want to minimize her challenges, because she is going into with high negative, Trump is going in with high negatives. It's going to be a battle royal. I wouldn't extrapolate too much from what's going on now to what's moving forward. I think she's got a different set of challenges moving forward.

CUOMO: A friend of Hillary Clinton seems to have in her goal is your friend, Jon Stewart. On your podcast, you had him on and he had a riff that he did about Donald Trump that he then did what he does brilliantly, which is telescoping into his theory of the man's campaign. Let's play it.

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JON STEWART, COMEDIAN: He is a man baby. He has the physical countenance of a man, and a baby's temperament and hands.

They keep saying, which is the most wonderful thing, don't worry, when he becomes president, he is going to be totally mature. And --

AXELROD: Well, he says being presidential is easy and he'll do it at the appropriate time.

STEWART: What does it say about your constituency, if what you're saying is, look, the only way I can win this part of the race is by being an unrepentant narcissistic (EXPLETIVE DELETED), because that's what my voters like, but once I have to appeal to everybody, I'll be cool?

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CUOMO: What is your take on that?

AXELROD: Well, look, he used the word that I think is the biggest vulnerability for Donald Trump. I don't think it's a lot of these side issues. I don't even think it is some of these really controversial things he is saying.

I think it's temperament. And you heard it in some of the attacks of Hillary Clinton on Trump the day after he clinched, you know, about being a loose cannon. I think you'll hear a lot of talk about that.

Ultimately, the greatest obstacle for Donald Trump is, whether people conceive of him in the Oval Office, where what you can say send armies marching and markets tumbling, and discretion really is necessary, as well as the ability to drill down deeply into very complicated issues. So at that point, people will have to make a judgment. I think that -- so I think Jon Stewart in his own fashion really identified the key point.

CAMEROTA: Seemed like he might miss eviscerating politicians at night. It's good to hear you asking questions.

AXELROD: Absolutely, no, he wants -- he was -- he slipped right back into it.

CAMEROTA: We saw that.

All right. David Axelrod, thanks so much.

AXELROD: Good to be with you.

CAMEROTA: John?

BERMAN: It was Axe's probing questions that set him off right there.

All right. It might be the answer to an age-old dilemma, how to reduce those wrinkles. It got Cuomo's attention. Coming up, a first impression of second skin. Is this the fountain of youth?

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