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Hillary Clinton Criticizes Donald Trump on Foreign Policy; Interview with Madeleine Albright; "Kill List" Discovered on UCLA Shooter's Body; UCLA Denies Any Dispute With Gunman; Med. Examiner: Prince Died Of Accidental Opioid Overdose; Trump Keeps Up Attacks On Trump University Judge; Hispanic Official Leaving RNC Due To Trump. Aired 8-8:30a ET

Aired June 03, 2016 - 08:00   ET

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[08:00:00] CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: -- after her speech warning of the perils of a Trump presidency. He says, you know what, Clinton should be in jail because of her e-mail server. She says, you know what, he's dangerous and temperamentally unfit to be in the White House.

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: Trump also wrapping up his rhetoric against the judge overseeing two lawsuits against Trump University. Trump says the judge's Mexican heritage is a conflict of interest with Trump's plan to build a wall. Meanwhile, more violent protests, as you can see, at another Trump rally. CNN's coverage begins this hour with Phil Mattingly. Hi, Phil.

PHIL MATTINGLY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Alisyn. Well, Hillary Clinton's advisers made clear that one of her primary goals yesterday was to delegitimize a Trump candidacy. Another one, get under his skin. And based on Donald Trump's response, his counterattack last night in San Jose, it became clear that that probably worked, leading pretty much everybody to recognize that these next five are only going to grow more intense, and as we look at the protesters, potentially more violent.

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DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I watched Hillary today. It was pathetic. It was so sad to watch.

MATTINGLY: Donald Trump coming back swinging.

TRUMP: Lying, crooked Hillary.

MATTINGLY: After Hillary Clinton's scathing foreign policy speech eviscerating the presumptive Republican nominee with her toughest lines yet.

HILLARY CLINTON, (D) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I will leave it to the psychiatrists to explain his affection for tyrants.

MATTINGLY: Trump calling for the former secretary of state to be imprisoned over the use of a private e-mail server.

TRUMP: Hillary Clinton has to go to jail, OK. She has to go to jail. She's guilty as hell.

MATTINGLY: The pair trading stinging one-liners.

CLINTON: He says he has foreign policy experience because he ran the Miss Universe Pageant in Russia.

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CLINTON: The tools Donald Trump brings to the table, bragging, mocking, composing nasty tweets.

TRUMP: To watch her is like Sominex. You ever hear of Sominex. Sleep all night. It's hard to stay awake.

MATTINGLY: Over the issue of trust.

CLINTON: It's not hard to imagine Donald Trump leading us into a war just because somebody got under his very thin skin.

TRUMP: Crooked Hillary said, oh, Donald Trump, his finger on the button. She's the one that stupidly raised her hand to go into Iraq and destabilize the entire Middle East, OK, because that's what she did.

MATTINGLY: And the question of temperament.

CLINTON: Donald Trump's ideas aren't just different. They are dangerously incoherent. He is not just unprepared. He is temperamentally unfit to hold an office that requires knowledge, stability, and immense responsibility.

TRUMP: My temperament is so much tougher and so much better than her temperament. And by the way, we need a tough temperament.

MATTINGLY: Outside Trump's rally in San Jose, even more tense confrontations. Mostly peaceful protesters, but some going fisticuffs with supporters, throwing eggs, water, and surrounding their cars as they exited. Some anti-Trump demonstrators waving the Mexican flag.

Just hours earlier, Trump claimed district judge Gonzalo Curiel has a, quote, "absolute conflict" presiding over the civil fraud lawsuits against Trump University. In an interview with the "Wall Street Journal," Trump saying the judge's Mexican heritage is an inherent conflict of interest because he's building a wall.

TRUMP: The judge, who happens to be, we believe, Mexican, which is great.

MATTINGLY: Curiel, an American citizen, was born in Indiana, the son of Mexican immigrants.

JEFFREY TOOBIN, CNN SENIOR LEGAL ANALYST: The idea that a judge simply because of his heritage has to recuse himself has never been part of the American system. I don't see any explanation for this other than, I'm sorry to say, bigotry.

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MATTINGLY: And Chris, the escalating battle between Donald Trump and this federal judge only underscoring the unease some Republicans feel about how Donald Trump has been interacting or treating with Hispanics, something that's also been proven out with his battle with the New Mexico governor, Susana Martinez, a rising star in the party. Many consider her to be the future of the party. Now Donald Trump walking that back a little bit in an interview with a New Mexico paper, saying he would actually like Susana Martinez's endorsement. He's always like her. Chris?

CUOMO: He'd probably like to rethink a lot of this because by talking to the judge he's kept the Trump University trial in the news. I'm sure that something he does not want.

But this shouldn't just be about the politics. It should be about the policy. And let's get some deeper insight into what Hillary Clinton said about foreign policy, what Trump's response should be, and what matters to you. We have Madeleine Albright, former secretary of state and U.S. ambassador to the U.N. She has endorsed Hillary Clinton. Ms. Albright is currently chair of the National Democratic Institute. Always good to have you on new day.

[08:05:03] MADELEINE ALBRIGHT, FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE: Great to be with you, Chris. Thank you.

CUOMO: So, let's leave all the name-calling to the side that went on during this speech and in response to it and let's get to some of the basic arguments. The Trump basic argument is the world is worse. Obama as president has made it worse. Hillary Clinton was there with him. How can she argue that she knows the answers when she created the problem? Your response?

ALBRIGHT: Well, first of all, the allegation is wrong. The world is very complicated. It has come about as a result of actions that took place during the Bush administration. If President Obama is going to be blamed for everything, the bottom line is that the situation was created then when America's reputation as damaged and democracy was militarized.

But I think that what is important is to understand Secretary Clinton's record. She is the one that in fact was able to move on sanctions on Iran, was able to rebalance our policy to understand that China is our most important relationship of 21st century, was also able to work on a cease-fire between Hamas and Israel, and a whole series of issues that then also led to the recognition of Cuba, a change in relationship with Burma Myanmar, and restored our reputation.

I was listening earlier, and I think that what Donald Trump talks about that America is not liked by its allies is absolutely not true. They count on us. And in her speech yesterday Secretary Clinton made very clear that our alliances and relationships with our allies are absolutely key to keeping America strong and to make sure that we are able to operate in this very difficult world. CUOMO: His point of pushback is that they may like us, but they abuse

us. They like us because we are weak and temperamentally he is strong. And you put a lot of emphasis on temperament and decision making, especially in foreign policy as well. You put out a tweet, in Trump-esche fashion, I might add, Ms. Albright, that said "Donald Trump would flunk my class on decision making in foreign policy. The commander in chief test is even tougher. No way he can pass." Why would Trump fail your class?

ALBRIGHT: Because he is erratic. He changes -- he says crazy things. I have traveled abroad an awful lot, and our allies don't think we're weak. They don't understand what he is saying and why he changes his mind, why he thinks that NATO doesn't work, why he thinks that Saudi Arabia needs to have nuclear weapons, why he says the Japanese need to be nuclearized, any number of things that absolutely don't make sense.

And so that's what troubles me, because I have been -- I worked in the Carter administration and the Clinton administration. I have been in the situation room. I know what the temperament is necessary, what you need to have is somebody who doesn't think he knows everything but has people around that differ in their opinions, who is respectable of the people's opinions, who listens, who makes considered judgments and understands the unintended consequences of foreign policy decisions. Donald Trump does not exhibit any iota of any one of those qualities, and it makes me nervous. It really does. I am very concerned.

CUOMO: In the increasing negative analysis in this election, it often seems like you're picking the lesser of two potential problems. To those who are supporting Trump or who are worried about Clinton, they say her legacy policy-wise is a Russian reset that did not work, an Iran deal that she participated in that gave one of the worst state actors in the world $100 million, and an e-mail scandal that showed she can't be trusted.

ALBRIGHT: Well, first of all, the e-mail issue, she has said she made a mistake, and nobody is going to die as a result of anything that happened on e-mails.

I am concerned about some of the statements that Donald Trump has made that are dangerous. On the issue of Russia, the fact that Donald Trump admires Putin is one of the reasons that I can't agree with a word he says because the reset takes two to reset. And Putin is the one that has made very aggressive moves against Ukraine and pushed Europe around, which is why we need a strong NATO.

And the Iran nuclear deal has made it clear that Iran will not have a nuclear weapon. That is positive. So I think people -- these are very, very difficult and complicated issues that need to be explained.

[08:10:00] And I thought Secretary Clinton's speech went a long way to laying out what was a rational national security policy. And I would hope and I would be so happy to participate in this, is having really an in depth discussion of the issues that are out there so that America will be safe. And that's what we need to talk about instead of name-calling, frankly.

CUOMO: Well, you can see what our emphasis is here today.

Let's take one step farther down the road of the Iran deal analysis, because with Khomeini, the religious leader coming out and saying that the U.S. and Britain are the biggest enemies of Iran, it reinforces the feeling that not only did you give him $100 million, but you seem to have given license to come after us again.

ALBRIGHT: No, I think the thing that we have done is established an international procedure for verifications. Secretary Clinton has said distrust but verify. We have a way to do that. And we have made the breakout of the possibility for Iran to have a nuclear weapon, made that very clear that that is not going to happen for a very long time. Reduced their centrifuges, their highly enriched uranium, and in fact have made a huge difference in terms making it safer in the region because Iran will not have a nuclear weapon in the foreseeable future.

CUOMO: Madeleine Albright, thank you for your perspective on NEW DAY as always.

ALBRIGHT: Thanks for asking me, Chris.

CUOMO: Always.

Donald Trump wants to respond to what happened last night in this speech and he wants to do it on CNN, of course. "The Lead" with Jake Tapper at 4:00 p.m. eastern, you will hear from Trump himself.

ANA CABRERA, CNN ANCHOR: Let's get to breaking news. Overnight, two more soldiers were found dead where an army truck overturned in floodwaters at Ft. Hood, Texas. So now the death toll has climbed to five soldiers just in that one incident. Four other soldiers are still missing. CNN's Ed Lavandera is live at Ft. Hood with the latest on the search there. Ed?

ED LAVANDERA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Ana. Search teams are back at work already inside of the Ft. Hood military post here in central Texas, resuming the searches for those four missing soldiers. There were 12 soldiers in all riding in this tactical vehicle which is like a large truck, almost like a big pickup truck style military vehicle, an open bed in the back. That truck was driving through a low-lying area. It rained heavily here in this area, this part of Texas yesterday, causing a lot of flash flooding in these low-lying areas. The truck got stuck, overturned. All of those soldiers went spilling out into the water. Three of them were rescued alive. As you mentioned, five have been found dead, and the search continues here this morning for the four that are still missing.

What could complicate matters here later in the day is that more rain possibly expected. That could trigger the floodwaters to keep -- come back up again. So we'll see how that plays out throughout the day, but the search continues. Alisyn?

CAMEROTA: All right, Ed. Another flooding story to tell people about, rain and flooding in Paris causing the Museum d'Orsay and the Louvre to evacuate artwork to higher floors. The Louvre removing 150,000 pieces, many of which were on display. Both museums will remain closed until Tuesday.

CUOMO: We have new developments to tell you about in the UCLA murder- suicide. Investigators say the gunman who killed a professor on campus and then himself left a note in his backpack that led them to a kill list and then the discovery of his wife's body in Minnesota. CNN's Stephanie Elam is following developments in Los Angeles. Stephanie?

STEPHANIE ELAM, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Chris. Yes, it looked like it was a murder-suicide that was isolated here to UCLA, but that note sending police to Minnesota and then discovering this was a way more tragic situation than previously thought.

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CHIEF CHARLIE BECK, LOS ANGELES POLICE DEPARTMENT: He had two semiautomatic pistols, one that he used for the homicide and the other was in his backpack.

ELAM: Investigators discovering round of ammunition and a kill list spelling out the names of three people at UCLA shooter Mainak Sarkar's Minnesota home.

DEP. CHIEF MARK BRULEY, BROOKLYN PARK POLICE DEPARTMENT: They did locate an adult female who was found deceased from an apparent gunshot wound.

ELAM: CNN affiliate WCCO report this woman was Ashley Hasti, one of the names on Sarkar's list. Documents obtained by CNN Show Hasti was married to Sarkar in 2011. Investigators finding her body in Brooklyn Park, Minnesota. Police say after killing Hasti, Sarkar then drove nearly 2,000 miles to Los Angeles, descending on UCLA's campus Wednesday morning, intending to follow through with the rest of his list.

BECK: He went there to kill two faculty from UCLA. He was only able to locate one.

ELAM: Sarkar opened fire, killing his former professor, William Klug, a father of two, then turned the gun on himself. The third name on Sarkar's kill list was another UCLA professor who was off campus that day, escaping what police say was a revenge fueled plot over intellectual property.

[08:15:02] ART RODERICK, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: He perceived he had been done wrong, and he just stewed on this for several years.

ELAM: UCLA denies any dispute between the school and Sarkar.

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ELAM: Now, according to UCLA, we can tell you that Sarkar graduated with his PhD in 2013 in engineering. The dispute seems to be over intellectual property. As far as the school is concerned, Ana, they do not believe that there was any sort of dispute big enough for any beef like this. They didn't think that there was any threat to professor Klug or to this other UCLA professor.

CABRERA: That's a shame. Thank you so much, Stephanie Elam reporting for us.

Well, after weeks of waiting, a medical examiner report now confirms what killed music superstar Prince. It reveals an accidental overdose of the powerful opioid painkiller, Fentanyl. What else are we learning from this M.E.'s report? Let's get to CNN's Sara Sidner, live for us from Paisley Park, the late superstar's compound. Sara --

SARA SIDNER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Ana, yes. We now know what killed Prince. There are very stark details spelled out in black and white on this one-page report from the medical examiner's office. In it, we wanted to highlight four different things that we learned about his death. One, the manner of death, and that, they determined, was an accident. Two, they determined that it was self-administered Fentanyl that actually killed Prince. Three, the Fentanyl toxicity is what took his life. There's also a detail on there that may explain why he was using such a powerful, powerful painkiller. It is the most powerful painkiller on the market and it is opioid based. They talked about scars and amputation. They said that he had a scar on his left hip and there has been a lot of talk about Prince having hip pain. But we do want to point out that Fentanyl is normally used for cancer patients or people who are coming to the end of their lives and they're using it to try to make them feel comfortable before they die. This is an extremely potent drug and investigators are looking into exactly how he got it and whether he had a valid prescription for it. Alisyn --

CAMEROTA: Sara, we do need to answer those questions. Thanks so much for the reporting.

Well, Donald Trump continues to attack the judge overseeing lawsuits against Trump U. What's behind that strategy? We'll debate it next.

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[08:20:57] CAMEROTA: Donald Trump continuing to attack the judge presiding over the fraud lawsuits against Trump University. In a "Wall Street Journal" interview, Trump says Judge Gonzales Curiel's Mexican heritage is quote, an inherent conflict of interest. Joining us now, CNN political commentator and Trump supporter, Kayleigh McEnany, and CNN political commentator, S.E. Cupp. Ladies, great to have you both in studio.

So the conventional wisdom has been for the past four years, S.E., that whichever president will need Hispanics to win. So why is Donald Trump going after -- making an issue of this judge's ethnicity?

S.E. CUPP, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, he's doing it to appeal to a certain segment of the population that believes the reason anything is going wrong in their world is the fault of other people, others. And it's been working in a primary. I don't know that it's going to work in a general. But I think this tactic is so revealing. It really is a slip-up for Trump because he has insisted that Hispanics love him, that Mexico will gladly pay for a wall, that he has not said anything disparaging about Mexicans. So if that's the case, then why would this judge's Mexican heritage be an inherent conflict of interest? Shouldn't this Mexican judge love him the way Hispanics love him?

CAMEROTA: OK, Kayleigh -- why should this judge's Mexican heritage be a disqualifier?

KAYLEIGH MCENANY, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: It's not. It's not relevant and he shouldn't have made that comment, that's for sure. It does make it harder to win the Hispanic community by making this comment, but I think when they take a hard look at Donald Trump, they'll see that he is someone who is going to create jobs. He's speaking to a lot of issues they care about. But look, Donald Trump, I think, brought up this heritage because he's concerned that the judge is connected with a group called La Raza Lawyers. It's in the San Diego chapter of which the judge is a member. They gave a scholarship to an illegal immigrant. Obviously, that's sending the signal that we're okay with illegal immigrants staying in the country. In fact, we'll support them financially --

CUPP: But what does that have to do with Trump University?

MCENANY: He feels that's antithetical to the positions he's taken in this presidential campaign. I think that's a fair criticism, but he needs to focus on that portion of it, not the judge's heritage.

CAMEROTA: And just be clear, we have heard that as well in the media, but CNN has not been able to independently confirm that this judge had given -- been part of a panel to give a scholarship to an illegal immigrant. However, that is totally legal. That is, in California, that's part of their state's Dream Act. They believe, just for the record, that you don't invest 12 years of a free public education in some stellar students to only send them away. Those are the ones you sort of want to keep here in the country. Millions of people believe that.

MCENANY: Sure, and that's fair, if people want to debate the efficacy of whether they should have done that or not, but I see coupled with the judge's actions, declassifying or rather unsealing documents that he's now attempting to reseal because he didn't take out certain information, redact certain information -- that's a really questionable thing I think the judge did. I think the case should have been --

CAMEROTA: As Chris had pointed out, the judge has also, in Trump's favor, postponed the decision until after the election. He could have sped it up and made it happen sooner. But the point is is that, you think that there is a bias.

MCENANY: I don't -- I'm not going to make a claim on that. I just think that Trump has facts in his column that could lead him to believe that in a real way.

CAMEROTA: Here are some other facts. This is the opinion of Donald Trump by Hispanics. This is the latest polling, this is from Fox News. Unfavorable, 74 percent. And it seems as though he's not that concerned about this, S.E.

CUPP: Yes, he's doubling down, really, on a lot of the rhetoric that he's been using throughout the primary, even though he's now essentially in a general election. I think he thinks that if he says it enough, Hispanics love me, I'm going to win the Hispanic vote, that it will come true. I think with Hispanics, with women, a lot of the rhetoric and the policies that he has suggested through the primary, are going to come to reckoning in the general. They don't just, poof, go away because he says they love me and they're going to vote for me.

CAMEROTA: Kayleigh, one more thing I want to bring up, because this is new news, that this high-level RNC staffer, Ruth Guerra, she's the head of Hispanic media relations at the RNC -- she has left her position, apparently, according to colleagues, because she said that she could no longer work to help elect Donald Trump. What message does that send?

[08:25:12] MCENANY: Well, that's a personal decision that she makes. I know of many Latino supporters of Donald Trump. I don't think that it's impossible for him to win this community, but it's definitely going to mean not making comments like he made to "The Wall Street Journal".

CAMEROTA: OK. I want to get back in time now and I want to play a clip from 1994 where Donald Trump was talking about whether women should work outside of the home. Let's listen to this.

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DONALD TRUMP, CHAIRMAN, TRUMP ORGANIZATION: I think that putting a wife to work is a very dangerous thing. I mean, we'll do an educational program here. If you're in business for yourself, I really think it's a bad idea to put your wife working for you. I think it's a really bad idea. I think that was the greatest single cause of what happened to my marriage with Ivanka.

I have days where I come home and, I don't want to sound too much like a chauvinist, but when I come home and dinner's not ready, I go through the roof.

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CAMEROTA: I'm sorry, Chris, that was 1954 and that was Archie Bunker. Besides proving that in 1994, Donald Trump was a chauvinist, what does that moment reveal?

CUPP: Well look, I've got to be honest, I'm no Trump supporter. Being a traditional guy, having a traditional view of the way a marriage -- this doesn't bother me. It's not a marriage I'd want to be in, because I like to work, and I don't cook dinner, but the fact that he wants a wife who's going to be home and cook dinner and that he's going to be -- that's his choice. I don't judge that. And if he found a woman willing to participate in that agreement, that arrangement, that's his choice.

CAMEROTA: Fair enough. And he has found those women. CUPP: Apparently.

CAMEROTA: But I think it's the language that jumps out at me -- putting a wife to work. I mean, you don't just send her out to the field.

MCENANY: I think if we bring up Donald Trump's 1994 statement, we should also bring up Hillary Clinton's 1992 statement where she says, I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas but instead I fulfilled my career. I find that statement to be very offensive to women who have chosen to stay home. It is a full time job --

CAMEROTA: So why isn't that her personal view just like S.E. is saying, this is Donald Trump's personal view?

MCENANY: It can be her personal view, but it's a personal view that's going to ostracize millions of women who have stayed home, because it is a full time job and they have made that sacrifice for their families.

CAMEROTA: OK, should we dispense with any looking back at 1992 and 1994? Is that what we've learned here?

CUPP: It's Trump and Clinton. We are living in the 90's again.

CAMEROTA: And it is kind of juicy to go back and -- I know, we are time traveling. All right, ladies, thank you very much for being here. A reminder, Donald Trump will be on "THE LEAD" with Jake Tapper at 4:00 p.m. Eastern on CNN. Tune in to that. Ana --

CABRERA: All right. It's the story we've all been talking about this week -- Harambe. Will the parents of the three-year-old who fell into the gorilla enclosure be charged, and what is the Cincinnati Zoo now doing to prevent future tragic incidents? That's ahead.

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