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Hillary Clinton has Enough Delegates and Super Delegates to Become Presumptive Democratic Presidential Nominee; Bernie Sanders Continues Presidential Campaign; Donald Trump Continues Criticism of Judge Overseeing Trump University Case; How Will House Speaker Address Trump's Comments?; No Apology from Trump for Criticism of Judge. Aired 8-8:130a ET

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[08:00:00] CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: I wanted to make sure I was on the right side of the "don't get too close to Alisyn line." I thought I might have violated it.

(LAUGHTER)

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: Oh, you'll know. You'll know.

Up first, Hillary Clinton makes history today, becoming the first woman to be the presumptive nominee of a major party in our nation's 240 year history. Clinton now has 2,384 pledged and super delegates. But she is not celebrating yet. She is waiting for six states to vote today. This as President Obama is reportedly ready to endorse Clinton. So we'll speak with Clinton's campaign manager in just a moment.

CUOMO: On the other side of the ball, Donald Trump facing mounting pressure to walk back his attack on a federal judge's Mexican heritage and on the judiciary. Instead Trump is stepping up his criticisms, and he's telling his surrogates to do the same. No apology, rev it up against the judge and the media.

We have the 2016 race covered the way only CNN can. Let's bring with Chris Frates live in Los Angeles. Chris?

CHRIS FRATES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey, good morning, Cuomo. I'll tell you, it is not how Hillary Clinton wanted to make history last night before the primary season's final votes were even cast when she became the first woman to become the presumptive nominee of a major party. Still, neither Clinton nor Bernie Sanders really acknowledged that moment, instead urging their supporters to get to the polls today.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

HILLARY CLINTON, (D) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: According to the news, we are in the brink of an historic, historic unprecedented moment.

(APPLAUSE)

FRATES: Overnight, Hillary Clinton clinched enough delegates to become the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee.

CLINTON: We're going to fight hard for every single vote, especially right here in California.

(APPLAUSE)

FRATES: But she is not claiming that historic milestone just yet, instead focusing on getting her supporters to the polls in the final six states holding contests today.

BERNIE SANDERS, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: In case you haven't noticed, there are a lot of people here tonight. Thank you.

(APPLAUSE)

FRATES: Clinton's rival Bernie Sanders is insisting that the primary contests aren't over yet. His campaign releasing a statement arguing that super delegates can change their mind before the July convention, saying, quote, "It is wrong to count the votes of super delegates before they actually vote at the convention this summer." The senator not acknowledging Clinton's triumph at a rally in San Francisco, but softening when asked about the possibility of endorsing her.

SANDERS: Let's assess where we are after tomorrow before we make statements based on speculation.

FRATES: Clinton is hoping to bring Democrats together quickly after this long and bruising primary season.

CLINTON: I'm going to do everything I can to unify the Democratic Party, and I certainly many going to be reaching out to Senator Sanders and hope he will join me in that because we've got to be unified going into the convention and coming out of the convention.

FRATES: Clinton is poised to get a major boost from President Obama, who sources say could endorse her as early as tomorrow and is itching to take on Donald Trump.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

FRATES: Now, Hillary Clinton got a big endorsement today when House Democratic leader, Nancy Pelosi, announced she voted for Hillary Clinton here in California and that she is endorsing her in this primary.

Now, on Sunday, Sanders and the president talked by phone, but Sanders declined to discuss what he talked about with the president. But both candidates really downplaying the endorsements, downplaying the fact that Clinton is the presumptive nominee. They want to make sure their supporters come out to vote and they don't think it is over yet. And they come to the polls today, Chris.

CUOMO: Well, Chris, we've got the big shiny California and New Jersey both up for grabs today, and that's why everybody is staying on their game. So turnout is going to be a big deal. We have CNN's Jessica Schneider live in Bloomfield, New Jersey. The polls open. What are we seeing?

JESSICA SCHNEIDER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Chris, I just talked to three women leaving the polls. They tell me it does not matter that the nominees are effectively set. They said they deemed it very necessary to get out here today and cast their ballots. It is a similar sentiment I'm hearing from the poll workers here. They say they are expecting a very high voter turnout.

And if it is any indication as to the interest level out here, 1.1 million new voters have registered in just the past six months. So of course the campaigns are hoping the enthusiasm level remains high out here. You can hear some of the kids out here. We're just outside a school, the polling place out here.

We are just outside Newark, New Jersey, in the town of Bloomfield, 30,000 registered voters here, 5.5 million registered statewide. The polls opened at 6:00 this morning. They'll be open until 8:00 p.m., and the poll workers tell me they're ready and they've somewhat seen a steady stream of voters. Alisyn?

CAMEROTA: OK, Jessica, thanks so much for all of that color from the polling place.

[08:05:01] We want to bring in now Hillary Clinton's campaign manager, Robby Mook, to talk about so much happening today. Hi, Robby.

ROBBY MOOK, CAMPAIGN MANAGER, HILLARY FOR AMERICA: Hello.

CAMEROTA: So last night, Hillary Clinton mathematically clinched the nomination. Why aren't you guys popping the champagne?

MOOK: Well, there are six states that vote today, millions of voter whose are going to cast their votes, and we wanted to stay focused on earning as much support as possible, earning as many delegate as possible.

And tonight is the night where I believe Hillary Clinton will get the majority of the pledged delegates. She'll increase that lead in the popular vote. She is at over 3 million votes in that lead. We want to expand that as much as possible. So we want to stay focused. This is a great milestone. We're on the verge of making history. And we're going to celebrate that tonight.

CAMEROTA: You say you're on the verge of making history. You have made history. Within the past basically 12 or so hours, in the first 240 years of this country, she has become the first woman of a major party to get the nomination. Doesn't that require some acknowledgment this morning? I know you guys are being mum.

MOOK: Well, we're going to celebrate tonight. Like I said, a lot of people want to make sure turn out tonight. We do not want to send a message that anybody's vote doesn't count. Hillary said at the beginning of this campaign she was going to fight for every single vote. That's what we're going to do. We have got a few hours left and then we're going to celebrate what you said is a very historic occasion. We're really excited about that. CAMEROTA: Is part of your reticence to celebrate that California is

very close and that Bernie Sanders might win California, so you don't want to get out ahead of yourself?

MOOK: All these races are competitive. You know, we're never exactly sure what's going to happen. And that's why we are sending a clear message to our supporters and our volunteers, stay at this. If you haven't voted yet in California, vote. If you haven't returned your ballot, return it. And to all of our volunteers, keep working hard.

CAMEROTA: Bernie Sanders agrees with you that we're jumping the gun basically in the media. So here is what he has said. "It is unfortunate the media in a rush to judgment are ignoring the Democratic National Committee's clear statement that it is wrong to count the votes of super delegates before they actually vote at the convention this summer." Bernie Sanders is basically saying there it doesn't matter what happens today. We're going to the convention, and it is not over until it's over and the super delegates vote. Do you agree with that timeline?

MOOK: Well, I think we're going to have a nominee tomorrow. As I said, I'm very confident that Hillary is going to have that majority of pledged delegates tonight, expand her lead in the popular vote. I think what would be wrong to ignore right now is the incredible organization that Senator Sanders and his supporters have built and how important that organization and that movement is to defeating Donald Trump this fall. We're going to have a nominee tomorrow. It is going to be time for the party to start to come together and make sure that we rally behind our nominee.

CAMEROTA: Bernie says you're not going to have a nomination. You're not going to have a nominee until the convention. Bernie says the super delegates have to vote. He has said that that all along. So what happens? Let's just play hypothetical. If he wins California and the polling is very close, what if he says that Hillary Clinton is not the nominee and it's not going to happen until the convention?

MOOK: I don't want to fixate on hypotheticals. As I said, we are going to a nominee tomorrow and it is really important that our party start to come together. And as I said Senator Sanders and his campaign have achieved incredible things. They've brought so many people into the process. They've registered new voters. They've brought in new donors, the amount of money he has raised online, these resources, these people are going to be so important to winning the general election.

CAMEROTA: What will be their role? What will Bernie Sanders' role if in fact Hillary Clinton does announce that she is the nominee tonight or tomorrow?

MOOK: I think Sanders has done an incredible job raising important issues like income equality, like providing health care for every single American, doing something about college debt. His voice is an important part of this movement not only to elect progressive leader into the White House but to stop Donald Trump. If there is one thing that Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton and all progressive across our country agree on, it is the threat that Donald Trump presents to our economy, to our values, and to our security, and I know that he is going to be an important spokesperson in that movement.

CAMEROTA: Bernie Sanders' tone seemed to shift yesterday and between what he said in the morning about this is going all the way to the convention, and then what he said in the early evening. And there was a phone call with President Obama in between those two speeches. Is President Obama pressuring Bernie Sanders to get on board and unify the party behind Hillary Clinton?

MOOK: I have no idea about what Senator Sanders and President Obama might be discussing, and I'll leave that to them. But as I said, I feel very confident that President Obama, Senator Sanders, and Secretary Clinton are going to come together behind the nominee to make sure that a Democrat wins the White House in the fall.

CAMEROTA: Has Secretary Clinton spoken to Senator Sanders?

MOOK: You know, they've spoken a lot obviously over the course of this campaign.

CAMEROTA: Lately, have they talked about this stuff, about what's next?

MOOK: I'll leave their private conversations to themselves. But again, I am completely confident that we are going to come together. The stakes are so high. The danger that Donald Trump presents to our country is so immense that we are all going to come together, rally around, and make see we win the election in the fall.

[08:10:12] CAMEROTA: One of the things that Bernie Sanders has been very good at is inspiring his followers with a message of excitement. You see his rallies. He has always talked about that. Hillary Clinton has been lately talking about how bad Donald Trump is. What will be her message to excite people after tomorrow?

MOOK: Well, as you said, knock on wood, we're looking forward to celebrating tonight the first woman in our country's history to be nominated by a major party for president. That's pretty exciting. That's a big part of why I'm on this campaign.

But also, I think not only do we talk about the danger that Donald Trump presents, but the incredible opportunities we have as a country. We can provide health care for everybody. We can make sure families can afford college again. These are exciting things. And we face a crossroads as a country. Are we going to move forward or are we going to go backwards? And I think we have a tremendous opportunity to keep this country moving forward.

CAMEROTA: Very quickly, Nancy Pelosi just endorsed Hillary Clinton this morning, and she also sort of dropped a hint as to who she would like to see as her vice president. So let me play that moment for you.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) NANCY PELOSI, (D-CA) HOUSE MINORITY LEADER: We have had two men over and over again for hundreds of years. I think that two women, whoever they may be, that would be fabulous.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CAMEROTA: Is it possible there will be a two-woman ticket?

MOOK: Well, first of all, Nancy Pelosi knows all about this, first woman speaker in our history. So it's great to have her supporting Secretary Clinton. We are focused on turning out those voters today. There is plenty of time to worry about vice presidents down the road.

CAMEROTA: Robby Mook, great to talk to you. Thank you so much for being here on NEW DAY. Let's get over to Chris.

CUOMO: Back to the other side of the ball. No apologies from Donald Trump. In fact, he had a conference call with surrogates and staffers saying don't apologize. Keep criticizing that federal judge overseeing lawsuits against Trump University, not related to the fraud case that the attorney general in New York is doing. But he is getting a lot of blowback. Top Republicans are lining up to you criticize their presumptive nominee when they have refused or done it quietly up until now. Why the change? CNN's Jim Acosta live at Trump Tower in New York City. Jim?

JIM ACOSTA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Chris. It is Donald Trump who is being judged this morning, and concerns are growing inside the Republican Party. I'm told by a GOP source that RNC Chair Reince Priebus has had a conversation with Trump about his remarks on Judge Gonzalo Curiel. But as you said, Donald Trump held that conference call, urging his supporters and surrogates and staffers to keep up the fight against the judge.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I don't care if the judge is Mexican or not. I'm going to do great with the Mexican people.

ACOSTA: Donald Trump is refusing to back down or apologize for his attacks.

TRUMP: I don't care about Mexican. But we're being treated very unfairly.

ACOSTA: Calling for Judge Gonzalo Curiel to recuse himself from a civil fraud case involving Trump University.

TRUMP: When you have thousands of students saying that the place was great, it was a great school, they loved it, this should be dismissed on summary judgment.

ACOSTA: His attacks on the judge.

TRUMP: I'm building a wall. He is a Mexican.

ACOSTA: Are causing an uproar and unifying the GOP against his controversial rhetoric.

SEN. MARCO RUBIO, (R) FLORIDA: That judge is an American and Donald shouldn't keep saying that. It is wrong that he keeps saying that. And it's inappropriate, wrong, offensive. I hope he will stop it. When I ran for president, I told everyone this is what would happen.

ACOSTA: On a conference call with staffers and surrogates, sources say Trump told them to keep up criticism of Judge Curiel.

JASON OSBORNE, DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTER WHO WAS ON THE CALL: When Donald Trump today on the call explained his side of the story, it made complete sense. He said here are the facts of the case. And we need to continue to attack the bias that is going on out there.

ACOSTA: Even Trump's most prominent supporters are blasting his attacks, including Newt Gingrich, who is rumored to be on his VP short list.

NEWT GINGRICH, (R) FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: This is one of the worst mistakes Trump has made.

ACOSTA: But the former House speaker dialed back his criticism last night.

GINGRICH: I thought he did a very good job of narrowing down his complaint, which I think by the way, if you look at the record is totally legitimate. We're both big boys. He is doing a great job overall. I deeply disagreed on one item.

ACOSTA: Former rival Ben Carson also walked back his criticism, blaming the media, as Trump frequently does.

BEN CARSON, (R) FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: People assume on the basis of said what a person believes when they could just ask him.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

ACOSTA: Now, there is big time disappointment inside the Trump campaign over Newt Gingrich's comments even though walked back and dialed back some of that criticism last night. I talked to one of those Trump supporters who was on that conference call who said you could now take the former House speaker off of Donald Trump's vice presidential short list.

But in the meantime, Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican from South Carolina who ran against Donald Trump during the campaign, he is now calling on his fellow Republicans who have endorsed Donald Trump to rescind those endorsements.

[08:15:04] But so far, this morning, guys, there are no takers -- Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: All right. Jim, thanks so much for all of that background.

In a little more than an hour from now, all eyes will be on Paul Ryan. The House speaker is set to talk about the GOP's agenda, but many wonder how he'll address the elephant in the room.

CNN senior political reporter Manu Raju is live for us in Washington.

Hi, Manu.

MANU RAJU, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL REPORTER: Good morning, Alisyn.

Now, this is an effort that Paul Ryan started before there was a Donald Trump as the party's nominee. In fact, when he became speaker last fall, one of the things he wanted to do was to create an election year agenda to show what the Republicans stand for and try to create a sharp contrast with the Democrats.

Now, later this morning, Paul Ryan will begin that effort to roll out pieces of this election year agenda for the GOP. Here in southeast D.C., a low income neighborhood, and one of the things he is trying to do is layout a number of initiatives of how he would address the issue of poverty, including reforming welfare, to food stamps, dealing with at risk youth programs, consolidating federal aid programs, allowing multiple businesses to provide 401(k)s, but the real question, is that even if he is pushing that agenda, how does that align or not align with Donald Trump.

This is an issue that the two men have discussed for weeks. But Donald Trump has signaled that he may not accept all of this, and of course, Paul Ryan and Donald Trump are divided on some key issues. That's going to be a big question going forward, and of course, we know Paul Ryan is not entirely comfortable with Donald Trump as the nominee -- Chris.

CUOMO: And he may well be less so as you're hearing from your sources as well. The question is, what will the voters make of this current situation?

Manu, thank you very much. We'll be back to you in a little bit.

So, Trump's campaign staff says to back off attacks on the judge. You know what Trump says? "Shut up. He is saying double down. Go at the judge. Go at the media.

There was a big conference call for Trump to deliver exactly that message. We're going to speak with one of the people on that call, next.

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[08:20:39] CUOMO: Donald Trump not backing off his criticism of a judge over his Mexican heritage, over his statements of the judge being bias. Despite what some say is no proof of that in the case.

On a conference call with surrogates, Trump rallied supporters to keep going at the judge, and the media. Now, many Republicans, even Trump supporters, are trying to find a way to defend the rhetoric, but it ain't easy this time.

Let's bring in CNN political commentator and former Reagan White House political director, Jeffrey Lord. He's a Trump supporter. He was on the conference call. He wrote a piece about this situation this morning.

We also have CNN political commentator and Republican strategist, Ana Navarro.

I feel like I should be saying, and in this corner, because you two are coming at this from very different directions.

Jeffrey, I start with you. "We will overcome," Trump said. "I've always won. I'm going to continue to win. And that's the way it is."

What are you going to overcome? How are you going to win? You started this. You made the statements. You made them without basis when we examine the record. How is this anyone else's fault?

JEFFREY LORD, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, first of all, Chris, he is standing up -- I mean, I am gobsmacked that the Republican establishment has gone off and identified itself with identity politics, which I've said in my piece this morning in the "American Spectator", which is the grandchild of slavery and the child of segregation, there is no place -- as President Kennedy liked to say, race has no place in American, life or law.

Donald Trump is taking these people at their word. They have for years tried to inject race into the law. If you recall Justice Sotomayor said she was a, quote-unquote, "wise Latina", and as such could make better decisions than a white male. And everybody on the liberal side thought this was just terrific. This is wrong.

So, Donald Trump is simply picking up their, you know, their banter here and saying, if this is what you believe, the judge will act in this fashion, he should be off the case. That's exactly right -

(CROSSTALK)

CUOMO: Ana, do you believe Donald Trump has made any good offer of what the judge did in this case that would prove the bias?

ANA NAVARRO, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Of course, he hasn't. And the place for him to do it, if he was going to do it, is to do it in a court of law. He can definitely file, you know, to ask that the judge recuse himself. He's not. What he is trying to do is bully this judge in the public -- using the public pulpit.

And the way he said it, when you watch that Jake Tapper interview, go watch it, folks, if you haven't it -- the way he says so despicably that he's a Mexican. You treat a dog that way. You wouldn't even treat a domesticated pet the way that Donald Trump talked about that judge.

You take a look at Arnold Schwarzenegger's Twitter feed today, where he stood for that judge. That judge was appointed by Arnold Schwarzenegger in 2007 to the state bench in California. That judge was confirmed unanimously by the U.S. Senate. This is not an activist judge. And, by the way, Jeffrey, if you don't

think a white Latina can make a better judgment than white men, girls -- let me just tell us, you haven't met enough of us girls.

LORD: There you go, there you go, Ana, right there. That's exactly --

NAVARRO: Absolutely. Listen, we are proud of our heritage. The same way you are proud of yours, the same way that Chris Cuomo, Mario Cuomo, Antonin Scalia, were proud of theirs. Are you telling me that Antonin Scalia could not make a good judgment because he was a child of Italian immigrants from Sicily? Are you telling me Antonin Scalia could not make a good judgment because he stood with Italian-American organizations? Are you telling me --

LORD: Ana, Ana.

NAVARRO: -- he's going to make a good judgment because he stood with Catholic organizations?

We are a fabric in America. We are a melting pot.

CUOMO: All right. Ana, let him respond.

NAVARRO: We are proud of your heritage. Neither you nor Donald Trump are direct descendants of Pocahontas, so you can stop right now saying that heritage, that race, that history are not part of our society in America.

LORD: Ana, Ana --

NAVARRO: They are and it is what makes America great again. Donald Trump wants to make America hate again.

CUOMO: Ana, open dialogue is what we're about.

Jeffrey Lord, please respond.

LORD: Ana, if Justice Scalia were on the white attorneys association, he would not never been on the bench, nor should he have been. Race has no place. This is the problem. You have illustrated --

NAVARRO: White attorney association.

[08:25:00] Jeffrey, he was Italian-American.

LORD: He was white, Ana. He was white.

NAVARRO: From Italy, and incredibly proud of his heart stage. Spoke about it continuously.

LORD: That is disgraceful.

Ana, this is exactly the problem. The Republican Party elites have imbibed this racism from the Democratic Party which has been pushing this stuff for 200-some-odd years, from slavery to segregation, to racial quotas, to illegal immigration because of skin color. It's all --

CUOMO: All right. Jeffrey, you made that point.

LORD: It is morally wrong.

CUOMO: You made that point, and I read your piece. People should do it, as well. Jeffrey Lord has a whole piece about this. You can read it.

Here is the problem. You're talking about the theoretical. This is about the practical. An actual case, an actual judge, an actual record that Trump says he is pointing to, but doesn't seem to exist.

That's not me saying it. That's Trump's own attorney. Listen to Counselor Petrocelli and what he said about this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DANIEL PETROCELLI, ATTORNEY REPRESENTING DONALD TRUMP IN TRUMP U: We believe that the charges against him have no merit, and he will testify. He will tell the truth, and the jury will decide the case.

REPORTER: You said you have no plans to ask the judge to recuse himself? Can you talk about that?

PETROCELLI: You know, the judge is doing his job, and you know, we're not seeking to recuse the judge. We're trying to assert our rights, and I think the court today did a good job of trying to balance out competing interests.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CUOMO: One of the most respected counselors in the country just said there are no grounds to move to recuse this judge. The only decision in this case that has been worthy of scrutiny is not the disclosure of those playbooks which are all over the place anyway and not zealously argued against by the Trump team. But continuing this case, Jeffrey, what a favor this judge did to Donald Trump, continuing the case and not having those lawyers all over the airwaves right now.

Where do you see the bias?

LORD: Chris, the bias is in the group that the judge belonged to, which is all about -- it is not about lawyers in San Diego, it's about Latino lawyers in San Diego. There's where the bias is.

The California Supreme Court put -- handed out a decision a year ago that said that judges in California couldn't belong to the Boy Scouts because it discriminated against gays. You've got a group here that is all about discriminating against non-Latino lawyers.

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CUOMO: You know that's not what the group is about. You know that's not -- you know that's not what this group is about. You're talking about a scholarship that you believe this judge is connected to that went to someone that was an undocumented immigrant. And you're saying that's proof that he is therefore bias against Donald Trump.

How do you connect the dots there?

LORD: Because he is taking a stand on illegal immigration. He gave a scholarship to someone who broke American law to be a lawyer. Donald Trump has a very well --

CUOMO: But you heard from your own lawyer.

NAVARRO: Oh my God. I mean, the crime of that, you know, to give scholarship.

CUOMO: Ana, hold on a second. You just heard from your own lawyer who said, we don't think there are any grounds to recuse.

Now, the bigger question becomes this, Ana, for you and the people who are against this, which is, let's be honest, Jeffrey, a longer list than we expect.

Do you think this is going to matter? Do you think this is not just baked in with the voters about who Donald Trump is and frankly, as many may like this about him as dislike him?

NAVARRO: I think it is going to matter, because look, for a lot of us, we thought maybe he was, you know, acting a part during the primaries, maybe he was saying all these -- you know, spewing all this venom and just playing the role of Donald Trump in "The Apprentice", Donald Trump the bully during the primaries, but come the general, he was going to become a bigger man, he was going to talk policy. He was going to be inclusive. He was going to be a different person. Make that shift that he is often made between a primary and general.

I'm glad he's doubled down because he is showing us that Donald Trump, the detestable Donald Trump we saw in the primary is the same Donald Trump we are going to see for the next five months. And the last four weeks since he has been in the primary winner, we've seen him with the debacle about the P.R. agent, when he played his own P.R. agent, we've seen him with these racist remarks, we've seen him with the tax returns he is not going to release.

This is the same Donald Trump, and I think it has been a wake up call for so many Republican leaders who thought maybe if we stay silent, maybe if we look the other way, for the good of the party, we can't criticize our nominee. But I think now, there has been a wake up call where Republicans realize that if they don't speak up, if they don't wake up, if they don't make it known and clear that Donald Trump does not represent all of us, and represent Republican values, then that's where the party is at danger of dying.

CUOMO: Jeffrey, you're shaking your head.

LORD: The party as Ana is describing it is abandoning Abraham Lincoln, Ronald Reagan and Jack Kemp, and there's no place for it. There's no place for race in the Republican Party or in America, period, end of it.