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Trump Currently Leading Clinton In New CNN/ORC Poll By Five Points; Firestorm Following DNC Chairwoman Heading Into First Day Of Democratic Convention; Interim DNC Chair Donna Brazile Warns More E- Mails To Be Made Public From Hack; Breaking Down Results Of New Poll Numbers; Trump Campaigning In Roanoke, Virginia; Two Dead, More Injured In Shooting Outside Nightclubs In Fort Myers, Florida. Aired 6-6:30a ET

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[06:00:00] CHRIS CUOMO, CNN HOST: Donald Trump getting a bad shift in the race for the White House. Don't laugh at me, David Gregory. You're not even on yet. Donald Trump getting a bounce from the Republican National Convention. Want to take a look at the numbers?

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN HOST: Let's do it. They're just released. These are the new CNN/ORC National Poll. Look at this. Trump is now ahead of Hillary Clinton by five points in this four-way race when you count in the other candidates. And then this is his largest lead, we should say, in nearly a year.

CUOMO: Sure, he has not been up in a while. Let's take a look at the two-way race. Trump still has a lead, three points over Clinton. Now, let's take a look into these numbers. We have a great panel for you, but there's certainly some bad news right off the top. 68 percent of registered voters feel Clinton is not honest and trustworthy. The convention here in Philadelphia already overshadowed on that score by Wikileaks, these e-mails that came out that do seem to show a bias against Bernie Sanders.

CAMEROTA: So we have every angle covered. Let's begin with our senior political reporter Manu Raju. Hi Manu.

MANU RAJU, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL REPORTER: Hey, Alisyn. Now, the fire storm behind Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the Democratic National Committee chairwoman, is only intensifying. She's scheduled to speak before the Florida delegation later this morning and here in this Convention Hall. How she'll be received by Bernie Sanders' supporters is an open question. But the Democrats had hoped that this convention would start off without a hitch. What we have seen is that there's a bit of drama.

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REP. DEBORAH WASSERMAN SCHULTZ, (D) FLORIDA AND DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE CHAIRWOMAN: I'm with her! I'm with her!

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RAJU: Democratic National Committee chairwoman, Debbie Wasserman Schultz forced to resign amid a massive e-mail leak, showing DNC staffers favoring Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders during the democratic primary. More than 1,000 Sanders supporters, marching in Philadelphia in protest. Sanders himself, who has been calling for Wasserman Schultz's resignation for months, telling CNN that he's not surprised that the DNC was working against him.

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SEN. BERNIE SANDERS, (D) FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It is an outrage and it's sad that you would have people in important positions in the DNC trying to undermine my campaign.

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RAJU: Clinton's campaign manager, pointing his finger at Russian hackers, suggesting they had a hand in the leaks.

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ROBBY MOOK, CAMPAIGN MANAGER, HILLARY FOR AMERICA: Experts are now saying that the Russians are releasing these e-mails for the purpose of actually helping Donald Trump.

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RAJU: Trump's campaign chairman flatly denying the suggestion.

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PAUL MANAFORT, DONALD TRUMP CAMPAIGN CHAIRMAN: It's just absurd. I don't know what you're talking about. It's crazy.

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RAJU: On Capitol Hill, Wasserman-Schultz had few defenders. Sources tell CNN that Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid was pushing for weeks to replace her, including at one point floating his number two, Dick Durbin, as a replacement. The interim chair will now be Donna Brazile, Al Gore's former campaign manager and a CNN political analyst. Brazile was tied with both Clinton and Sanders, warned Democrats last night that Friday's leak may just be the tip of the iceberg.

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DONNA BRAZILE, INTERIM DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE CHAIR: More e- mails are coming. I don't know the substance, but I do know there are a lot of stuff that we might have to apologize for.

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RAJU: Trump quick to pounce on the political turmoil, posting this tweet. The Democrats are in a total meltdown, but the biased media will say how great they are doing. E-mails say the rigged system is alive and well. This scandal, threatening to shatter the uneasy truce between Sanders' progressive base and the party establishment ahead of today's convention themed united together, where Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and Michelle Obama will headline the first night. The controversy, also overshadowing Clinton's big introduction of her vice presidential pick, Virginia Senator Tim Kaine. The newly-minted democratic ticket sitting down for their first interview together, keeping their focus squarely on the Republicans.

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HILLARY CLINTON, (D) PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: I don't know what their convention was about other than criticizing me. I seem to be the only unifying theme that they had.

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RAJU: Kaine showing he's ready to defend his running mate on the campaign trail.

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SEN. TIM KAINE, (D) VIRGINIA: Then I see this, you know, "crooked Hillary" or see the "lock her up", it's just ridiculous. It is ridiculous. And look, most of us stopped the name calling thing about fifth grade.

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RAJU: Now, this week former New York city mayor and independent Michael Bloomberg is set to endorse and give a speech here in this convention hall behind Hillary Clinton, all part of an effort to reach out to those moderate and independent and swing voters, now that polls show that she's losing this race to Donald Trump. Alisyn?

CAMEROTA: Okay, Manu. Thanks so much for all of that. Joining us now to discuss all of this is our panel, CNN political analyst and host of the David Gregory Show Pod Cast, David Gregory. CNN correspondent, CNN Political Analyst and CNN senior editor for "The Atlantic," Ron Brownstein, and CNN National Political Reporter, Maeve Reston

[06:05:13] Guys, it's great to have you here. OK, I know you have in your hot little hands, OK Ron, this is our new CNN poll just out shows what happened after the Republican National Convention to Donald Trump's numbers and Hillary Clinton's numbers. Let me put up for our viewers just one more time the two-way race. Because this shows that he got six points out of that Republican National Convention. He's now at 48 percent to her 45 percent. She went down four points. What else do you see, Ron?

RON BROWNSTEIN, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: Yeah, it's a good poll for Donald Trump overall, and especially because of that number of 48, he's had trouble getting above 42, 43 in any national polling since mid-May. I think, I believe this is the largest number he's had in his camp in any serious national poll since mid-may. So overall, it's a good poll. It's a bad poll for Hillary Clinton in the sense that they succeeded in driving some negatives about her. Two things worth noting. You know, you can be ahead after your own convention and loses. There's no guarantee. You should be ahead after your own convention. CAMEROTA: And historically you are ahead.

BROWNSTEIN: And there's one big red flag in here, and Chris is going to smile at me. Even within this poll, which is a very good poll for Trump, it shows the bottom dropping out for Clinton with those blue- collar whites, who are the core Trump support. But it shows her still leading among college-educated white voters. The kind of voters who went to the convention may be thinking that Trump is too divisive, too polarizing. No Democrat in the history of polling going back to 1952 has ever won college-educated white voters. If she does in the end, it is very hard for him to make the Electoral College math add up. But it's still, overall a good poll for Trump.

MAEVE RESTON, CNN NATIONAL POLITICAL REPORTER: This poll is amazing. We've already forgotten all of the drama of the Republican Convention in those first three days when everyone was saying it was a dumpster fire with you know, putting down the delegate revolt and people screaming on the floor and Ted Cruz and the plagiarism thing. And then Donald Trump came in, introduced by Ivanka, obviously, with a very positive speech that clearly had helped with independents, and you know, even though he laid out this dark and stormy vision, clearly that is working with some people. In our new poll, you see his numbers. He's increasing his edge among independents. It's going to be a very--

DAVID GREGORY, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Had a big bump with blue-collar workers also.

BROWNSTEIN: That was a big bump.

GREGORY: A couple points. First of all, I still remember the drama, I wrote about it in my journal. I think what's interesting about this in there, you know, Hillary negative numbers, you know, I think a big strategy for Donald Trump is to drive her negatives, of course, but it's also to suppress her support. And I think such a huge challenge going into this convention for her is that she cannot take for granted this Obama coalition, as tight as she holds on to him from 2008 and 2012. And I think that's why party unity is so important. And you know, still something that we have to see. The other piece about this is that we see relative parity. I think the Clinton campaign certainly wants to come out of here, establishing some distance from Trump by defining him as reckless, as risky, that she can hold throughout the rest of the time, this law and order theme and all that has -- or the probability, the potential at least to really split the country in two.

BROWNSTEIN: Well that's the thing. You know, you look at this poll, and look, we're only at halftime. We're going to get another poll after the Democratic Convention and several weeks after that probably before you have a real sense of where the race is. But all the indications are that all of these issues we already have in American politics are going to grow wider in the Trump-Clinton race between college and non-college, between white and non-white, between urban and non-urban, secular and religion, all the fault lines in American politics particularly because of Trump. He kind of pushes in both directions. He's stronger on the Republican side and he may drive away more over

the --

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CUOMO: I think that that's all true. That's why I call you the professor. However, there is this parallel competition going on as well, which is him being dangerous and unqualified versus 68 percent of the people polled, registered likely voters, saying she's not honest and trustworthy. Have any of us ever seen a number that high before? I mean, in politics and people who are contending to be president.

BROWNSTEIN: August 1974, I mean you know.

CUOMO: He was already in --

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BROWNSTEIN: That is a very high number.

RESTON: But I mean, if you -- and it's just amazing that continuing to talk to Clinton voters out there. I mean, they're going to vote for her, but they're still bringing up the trust and integrity issues. The campaign has not been able to do anything to change that. And I don't know at this lead in the game how you do that.

GREGORY: But they're both running campaigns, it's about tearing down the other side, making it a choice. We're referring on her again, her test this week, can she possibly put together some kind of biography that's new for people who have not made a judgment about her? It's so baked in to her persona. So what do you do? They don't trust her.

But they're both running campaigns tearing it down the other side, making it a choice. Her test this week, can she possibly putting to some kind of biography that's new for people who have not made a judgment about her. It's so baked into her persona.

CUOMO: They don't trust her.

[06:10:11] CAMEROTA: Let's look at the four-way race. The third party. Let's look at this because this also seems to benefit Donald Trump. So look at these numbers. Trump had 37. Afterwards, 44. Before, Clinton had 42. Afterwards, she had 39. Look at what happened to Gary Johnson. He went from 13 percent to 9 percent and Jill stein from 5 to 3. What do you see here?

CUOMO: A 12-point protest vote right now in this polling with unpredictable results may be, according to this, helping Trump a little bit. Definitely something to worry about.

RESTON: And I think also, it is that you know, at this juncture in the race, I think those numbers for both Stein and Johnson will rebound because we're at a point in the race where we're much more focused on Trump and Clinton. And people are giving them kind of a second look. But I think we will continue to have this protest vote debate all the way through the fall.

CAMEROTA: They're siphoning votes from Hillary Clinton.

BROWNSTEIN: Well, I think Gary Johnson particularly has been stronger among young people, which is a problem for Clinton. That's a core part of the Obama Coalition. The other thing is, in the long run, I think that the larger the protest vote, the better the chance is for Trump. Because this poll had him at 48. This is immediately after the convention. It's just a reminder. He did expand his support. It's tough for Donald Trump to get to 50. The lower the number you need to win, the better I think his chances of getting there.

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CUOMO: Also depressing his demographic you like so much. If these college suburban Republicans are just so depressed by him and they don't come out and vote, then it doesn't really you know, it changes the math for him. If you pump up the blue-collar vote, he's in good position.

BROWNSTEIN: If you look at this poll, and you see a very different electoral college, I mean if you're really, you're looking at a 35- point lead among non-college whites, you'll have a very competitive candidate in Donald Trump across the entire Rust Belt Ohio, Iowa, maybe even Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan.

But again, what that problem with the college whites and combined with this difficulty among minorities, three different polls having 20 percent among Hispanics, you'd have a Hillary Clinton discounting then on Virginia, which she happened to pick the vice president, North Carolina, Florida, Colorado, Nevada. We could see a very inverted electoral college kind of strategy. But if this poll holds up, Donald Trump is a very formidable Rust Belt candidate.

RESTON: His brain is just a calculator. Amazing.

CUOMO: No, no. Texas Instruments.

BROWNSTEIN: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

CAMEROTA: Oh, but at last Maeve, doesn't it suggest that all the things that Pundits focused on last week, there's chaos, there's plagiarism. Voters don't look at that sort of thing. And maybe, his speech about how scary these times are is the thing that they most avoid.

RESTON: I think it definitely is the thing that they most took away from the convention and just talking to voters over the last couple days, clearly they were remembering Thursday night as opposed to everything that had happened earlier in the week. But, we're now going into the Democrats' convention. All of that will be churned up again. So it will be really interesting to see the polls afterward.

GREGORY: It doesn't mean that some voters don't hang on to it, especially you know, swing voters, some of the voters that we've been talking about in the suburbs. It doesn't mean that they don't hold on to it, but still revealing numbers.

CUOMO: But it also goes on an assumption that chaos is bad for you in politics. And we don't know that to be true anymore when it comes to Donald Trump. That convention was chaotic, and it seemed to work for him. It seems to be something he cultivates.

BROWNSTEIN: The evidence from last week, we've mentioned speech is that speech overwhelms everything else. The nominee's speech is more than 50 percent.

RESTON: And they said that, I mean, to you know, to their credit. They said that Thursday night, they were going to be able to clean it up and move on. And that's what happened.

CAMEROTA: Panel, thank you very much. Great to have you here.

CUOMO: Donald Trump, for his part, digging in his heels on his signature and controversial idea, the proposed ban on Muslims entering the U.S. he says oh, no, no, it's not about Muslims, it's about everybody in compromised countries by terror which could include everywhere. So, for a little bit of a look of where this policy is heading, let's get to CNN's Jason Carroll following the Trump campaign for us. He's live in Roanoke, Virginia. So what is he saying now, my friend?

JASON CARROLL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, a couple things in. First of all, it's very clear why Donald Trump is here in Virginia. It's Tim Kaine's home state. Also very clear, he's not backing down on some of those controversial statements he's made about NATO and that ban on Muslims.

DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: Extreme vetting. If a person can't prove what they have to be able to prove, they're not coming into this country.

CARROLL: Donald Trump offering new clarification on his ever-evolving immigration stance, moving away from the blanket Muslim ban he proposed this past December.

TRUMP: Calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States.

CARROLL: To omitting the word Muslim entirely during his speech at the Republican National Convention.

TRUMP: We must immediately suspend immigration from any nation that has been compromised by terrorism.

[06:15:09] CARROLL: Trump now insisting he's not pulling back on the ban.

TRUMP: I actually don't think it's a pullback. In fact, you could say it's an expansion. People were so upset when I used the word Muslim. Oh, you can't use the word Muslim. Remember this -- and I'm okay with it because I'm talking territory instead of muslim. CARROLL: The Republican nominee even refusing to rule out banning

immigration from top U.S. allies, including France and Germany and threatening to abandon the World Trade Organization if it doesn't approve of his plan to tax American goods produced in foreign countries.

TRUMP: We're going to renegotiate or we're going to pull out. World Trade Organization is a disaster.

CARROLL: Ahead of tonight's Democratic National Convention kickoff, Trump attempting a divide and conquer strategy, slamming Hillary Clinton for naming Virginia Senator Tim Kaine as her VP pick.

TRUMP: What happened with the choice of Tim Kaine was a slap in the face to Bernie Sanders and everybody. I was shocked.

SANDERS: On his worst, worst, worst day, Tim Kaine is 100 times better than Donald Trump will ever be.

CARROLL: With this, as prominent Trump supporter, retired lieutenant general Michael Flynn, stirs a new controversy for the campaign, retweeting a CNN link to an interview with Clinton's campaign manager with an anti-Semitic comment attached. Amid online backlash, the retweet was removed, Flynn writing, "all this is what was meant to be retweeted, the earlier retweet was a mistake, my sincerest apologies." This is the latest Twitter flub from Trump's team with a Tweet from Trump's own account being called anti-Semitic earlier this year, that included what critics say was a star of David. And Alisyn, Trump doubling down on the comments he made about NATO when he suggested that he may not come to the aid of NATO nations that do not pay their own way, to which senate majority leader Mitch McConnell said that those comments that Trump made were a rookie mistake. He said this is why Trump needs people like him to steer him in the right direction on the issues such as this, to which Trump replied, he said that McConnell was 100 percent wrong. He called McConnell's comments sad. Alisyn?

CAMEROTA: Okay, Jason. Thanks so much for all of that reporting. We do have some breaking news to tell you about right now because there has been this deadly shooting outside of a nightclub in Fort Myers, Florida. Two people, we've learned, are dead. At least a dozen wounded. CNN's Boris Sanchez is heading to the scene. He joins us now on the phone with all the latest details. Boris, what have you learned?

BORIS SANCHEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Alisyn. Yeah, in just the past half hour, we've learned that police have obtained two more people in connection with the shooting. That brings the total number of people obtained for the shooting to three. The main crime scene is outside Club Blu. As you mentioned, that's in the parking lot.

According to CNN producer Chuck Johnson, who's at the scene, he said there are evidence markers everywhere. It's apparent that a lot of shots were fired outside the club. The two other scenes that police are also processing right now, one is at a home where apparently shots were fired at the house and at a vehicle. One person was injured there. And then there's another scene nearby, an intersection where one of the people detained were stopped by officers.

We should tell you they're still canvassing for suspects at this point. They haven't called any of the people they've detained suspects so far. One important point to make, on the club's Facebook page, there was a flyer for the party last night. It was apparently teen night. There was no I.D. required to get in. So we're learning that all ages were there. We're here at the hospital right now. At the local hospital, there are victims that are as young as 12 years old. Their ages range from 12 to 27. Again, 14 to 16 people injured, two dead. We're on the way there right now. And as soon as we get more information, we'll bring it to you. Back to you.

CAMEROTA: Oh, my gosh. 12-year-olds. That is a big development, Boris. Thank you.

CUOMO: All right. So Boris Sanchez is there. We'll be checking in with him throughout the morning. Alisyn and I obviously are here in Philadelphia for the beginning of the Democratic National Convention, and there's already drama. Wikileaks did an e-mail dump that led to the chairwoman of the party resigning. Why? These e-mails show some things that aren't going to make his supporters very happy. What is the state of play as we begin the convention? We have it for you ahead.

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[06:23:31] CUOMO: So, what was the effect of the Republican National Convention on the race? We now know. Donald Trump overtaking Hillary Clinton in a new CNN National Poll. It shows Trump up by three points in a head-to-head race. He had been trailing by seven before the convention. There are other numbers as well, especially when you look at the four-way. We're going to discuss it with Congresswoman Debbie Dingell from Michigan. She's a member of the House Budget Committee. And she's with us this morning. It's good to have you.

REP. DEBBIE DINGELL, (D) MICHIGAN: Good morning Chris.

CUOMO: So these numbers, it is not unusual to have a bounce. We've seen higher bounces than this. But this is the first time that he has led against Clinton in a very long time, and he broke that threshold of 45 percent, 46 percent. He's at 48 in this poll. That's a meaningful number. How much does this worry you?

DINGELL: You know, I've taken this race seriously for a long time. I've always said it was going to be a competitive race. The challenge now -- and by the way, we expected a bump. Well you know you're going to see a bump. It's not as big as many of the bumps you've seen in recent years, but this campaign has taken it seriously. You'll see a bump for her when we come out of this convention, and then the race is on.

CUOMO: So, there's another number in this poll. On thus worthiness for Hillary Clinton. She's not trustworthy is at 68 percent. Have you ever heard of a number like that before in politics of someone who's competitive for president?

DINGELL: I've seen it. When you go through sort of periods --

CUOMO: 68 percent?

DINGELL: You know, I've known Hillary Clinton. You know I've known her for decades. This woman is one of the most decent human beings I know. She's got to help the American people see who she is.

[06:25:10] I got to know her when we were working spouses 30 years ago, and she cared about kids and was helping the kids. And she didn't go choose to be a high-priced lawyer. She worked for those kids. She cared about issues. Her job now is for the people to know the woman that I've known for three decades. But I think she has the ability to do that, and there are going to be other people like me out there trying to help people see who she really is.

CUOMO: So Debbie Dingell does that. She does it forcefully, compelling. Then you have the Wikileak situation. Your chairwoman has to step down. Clinton absorbs her into the campaign, which seems like she's ,bracing the conduct, which was overtly hostile to Bernie Sanders, which is exactly what he was complaining about. How does that help her trustworthiness?

DINGELL: Well, I think that everybody is trying to move forward. Debbie did a very good job as chair of the DNC. Those Wikipedia leaks, which we all have to wonder about why and how they were leaked, you know, is there a Russian connection that Donald Trump do all of that.

CUOMO: CNN is reporting that the U.S. Government believes that Russia did hack the DNC, is responsible for these. Why they did it is subject to opinion, obviously, but they show what they show, right? There was an animosity towards Sanders inside that clubhouse.

DINGELL: Those weren't Debbie's -- I'm not going to defend anything that was in them. And whenever Debbie goes after somebody based on religion, I live in Dearborn, Michigan. I'll tell you one of the ways that we are. We've got to stop -- Donald Trump is trying to divide this country with fear and hatred. You come to my hometown in Dearborn, largest Muslim population in the country. Those are good American working men and women. They're teachers, they're doctors.

And what he's doing, trying to divide us with fear and anger, you know, George Bush after 9/11, horrible time for us, but he wasn't going to let this country be divided by fear and hatred and anger. That's what Donald Trump is doing. And we are not going to let him do that for this November election.

CUOMO: So what do you do this week to overcome this negative momentum coming into it and that will allow Hillary Clinton to deal with that 68 percent number? How does she do what you're saying she needs to do?

DINGELL: Well, I think you're going to see a strong convention. Tonight, you're going to see Senator Sanders. And it's going to be very important, what he does. But you know, I've talked to him. He knows what Donald Trump would be as president. I think he's going to work very hard, and it's going to be very important that he be one of the key people out there. Elizabeth Warren, Michelle Obama. Each night you're going to see people that the American people trust,

talk about the Hillary Clinton they know. None of us are -- I won't use that word on air, but we don't BS. I don't -- and think what you've got to see is start to have people and others get up there and define her coming out of a convention. Now you're going to see people who have known her for a long time, talk about the real Hillary Clinton.

CUOMO: I think you've got a tough case though, congresswoman. Because you know, it's not just the Wikileaks. The e-mail thing is hanging over her head. The Benghazi thing is hanging over her head. And you can argue the facts all day about you know, you want to talk about Benghazi, let's talk about what's going on in Libya. And the problems that are there. But, there does seem to be a theme of when confronted with a problem, the Clinton machine locks in, protects itself, and they hell with everybody else. And that's what they use in the e-mail scandal for. How do you defeat that premise?

Well, I'm going to talk about the Hillary Clinton that I know. That's what I'm going to do. And I'm going to talk about everything from -- you know, she's a real human being. And that's what people don't see.

You know, when John was in the, hospital and almost dying, first call, do you need anything, do you need me? That's been my friend. But I saw her work on health care. I saw how hard she cared about working men and women. And when the health care didn't work, she moved to CHIP. She and John and several other members did CHIP. They got health insurance passed for kids in this country. She cares about working men and women. She does it, you know, when she talks about trade, she walks her talk. She's not going to support bad trade agreements. I love Donald Trump when he talked about currency manipulation.

But then you start to get the truth, Chris. He's producing his clothes in China. And he comes to Michigan. Look, you'll find a quote from me in August. I love hearing this man talk about currency manipulation, but then he doesn't like what an auto worker says to him, and he says we're not going to build auto plates here. We're going to build them where they get paid less. And then you'll be so desperate for a job, you'll take less money. When people hear those kinds of stories, they're going to know what's really at stake in November.

CUOMO: There's plenty at stake. That's for sure. Congresswoman, it's great to have you on "New Day." thank you for making the case. We'll be seeing you around here, I'm sure.

DINGELL: I'll look forward to it.

CUOMO: All right. So, Alisyn?

CAMEROTA: OK Chris. There's other news around the world to talk about. This new attack in Germany, this time it was a Syrian national detonating a suicide bomb at a music festival. So what we know about the suspect's past and what may have led to the violence there. We have more when "New Day" returns.