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Flights Delayed at LAX after False Report of Gunshots; Donald Trump's Position on Immigration Policy Examined; Clinton Foundation Under Scrutiny Over Favors; Police: Nykea Aldridge Shot While Pushing Baby In Stroller; Trump To Deliver Immigration Speech On Wednesday. Aired 8-8:30 a ET

Aired August 29, 2016 - 08:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

[08:00:00] CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: It's where the violence comes from and what makes it stop. And I'm sure for the family nothing is going to replace who they lost. That hole will always be there. But this dialogue and any kind of progress at least makes them feel that their loss gave birth to something a little bit better. We hope that for the Wade family, as we do with all these families that fall victim to this condition that's existed for too long. Thank you for having the conversation. Let us know how we can help.

KENNY WILLIAMS, FRIEND OF DWAYNE WADE AND OTHERS: Thank you for having me.

CUOMO: All right, Kenny Williams, thank you very much.

We're following a lot of news. There was chaos and confusion at LAX, People running for their lives. What happened? Now we know.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Flood of people that came running into the bathroom saying there's a shooter. Everyone was in a huge panic.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Chaos at Los Angeles International Airport following the reports of an active shooter.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: People sprinting the other way, we had no clue what was going on.

DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We're going to get rid of these people day one.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Nothing has changed about Donald Trump's position.

TRUMP: The policy of Hillary Clinton have created this high crime and crushing poverty.

HILLARY CLINTON, (D) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: There has been a steady stream of bigotry coming from him.

TRUMP: We're going to have safe communities again, so you can walk down the street and not be killed and not be shot. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When will enough be enough?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: These kids are screaming out for help.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The tragic death of Nykea Aldridge shining a spotlight on gun violence in Chicago.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's heartbreaking.

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CUOMO: Good morning, welcome to your NEW DAY. It's Monday, August 29th, 8:00 in the east. Let's begin with this breaking news of these terrifying moments for travelers at LAX, Los Angeles International Airport. There were reports of an active shooting. Passengers just scrambled like you're seeing on your screen right now, some of them ran out on the tarmac after hearing what was described as a loud noise.

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: So police shut down the airport but they found nothing except for a man dressed as Zorro carrying a sword, but he was not connected to this security situation. CNN's Paul Vercammen is live at LAX with the breaking details. What do we know, Paul?

PAUL VERCAMMEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, we now know there was some 281 delays all because of this. There were 27 diversions, and there were two flight cancellations on a harrowing night here for passengers at LAX and a confusing one at that.

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VERCAMMEN: Chaos overnight at Los Angeles International Airport, reports of an active shooter sending travelers running out of several terminals.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We just saw people sprinting the other way.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I was in the bathroom, and all of a sudden there was a flood of people that came running into the bathroom saying there was a shooter. Everyone was in a huge panic.

VERCAMMEN: Panicked passengers using emergency exits to get away, some ending up in restricted parts of the airport, the scare leading to a full ground stop of traffic as police searched the airport. LAX later confirming that the source was likely a loud noise.

The false alarm causing a ripple effect of headaches for travelers, massive gridlock on the freeways leading into LAX, and passengers back inside the airport now facing delays as airlines work to get things back on track.

The scare at LAX comes just two weeks after a similar incident caused widespread chaos at New York's JFK airport, both incidents highlighting how on edge travelers are following recent terror attacks abroad.

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VERCAMMEN: And so where did all of this start? LAX I shaped like a horseshoe and at the end of one of the horseshoes, this is Terminal 8, Gate 82, United, be on TSA or the security checkpoint, one man said he heard something that sounded like gunfire, and they still have no idea what that was that touched all of this off. Back to you.

CAMEROTA: What a mysterious story, Paul, on so many levels. Thank you for that reporting. Let's get now to the 2016 race. Donald Trump says he'll give a major speech on immigration on Wednesday. Still many questions about Trump's policy after he softened his signature position of deporting more than 11 million people. Trump's campaign also says he will start taking his message to black voters directly into the inner city. CNN's Sara Murray is live in Washington with more. Sara?

SARA MURRAY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Alisyn. The Trump campaign wavered on whether to even give this speech this week, but now it appears their immigration speech is back on. What we're going to be looking for is whether what we've heard from the last couple of weeks from Donald Trump is just a softening in the way he talks about immigration policy or whether he's actually backtracking on this pledge to deport millions of undocumented immigrants living in the U.S.

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DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We are going to get rid of the criminals, and it's going to happen within one hour of when I take office, believe me.

[08:05:02] MURRAY: Donald Trump announcing he'll deliver a highly anticipated immigration speech Wednesday in Arizona after all.

KELLYANNE CONWAY, TRUMP CAMPAIGN MANAGER: If you want to be here legally, you have to apply to be here legally.

MURRAY: The Trump campaign insisting the proposal won't amount to amnesty or include a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants.

CONWAY: We all learned in Kindergarten to stand in line and wait our turn.

MURRAY: But as questions mount about whether Trump is softening is hardline position from the primaries.

TRUMP: At least 11 million people that came in illegally, they will go out.

MURRAY: Even his allies appear unclear on his stance.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What about the millions in the country right now, what happens to them?

MIKE PENCE, (R) VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I think Donald Trump will articulate what we do with the people that are here, but I promise you Donald Trump --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But he already has articulated it.

MURRAY: The GOP chairman even saying deporting all 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the U.S. is complicated.

REINCE PRIEBUS, REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN: He's reflecting on it and his position is going to be not.

MURRAY: This as Trump plans a Labor Day trip to a predominantly black church in Detroit, part of his ongoing effort to woo minority voters.

TRUMP: African-Americans, Hispanics, vote for Donald Trump. What do you have to lose? It can't get any worse. What do you have to lose?

MURRAY: The Republican nominee sparking controversy over the weekend for politicizing the death of Chicago Bulls star Dwyane Wade's cousin, tweeting, "Just what I have been saying, African-Americans will vote Trump." An hour later, Trump offered his condolences. This tweet just the latest example of Trump facing criticism for touting his political positions in the wake of tragedies.

TRUMP: It's horrible. And it's only getting worse. I say, vote for Donald Trump. I will fix it.

MURRAY: As Trump continued to blame the Democratic Party and Hillary Clinton for minority hardship and racial tension.

TRUMP: They've run the inner cities for years and look what you have. They are like warzones.

How quickly people have forgotten that Hillary Clinton called black youth "super predators." Remember that? Super predators.

MURRAY: Both Trump and Clinton's campaigns using their opponents' own words against each other.

TRUMP: What the hell do you have to lose?

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MURRAY: Now, the Trump campaign is aiming to keep the pressure on Hillary Clinton this week. They are going up with a new $10 million ad buy across nine battleground states. It's focused on the economy and very critical of Clinton. Back to you, Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: OK, Sara, thanks so much. Joining us to discuss Trump's pitch to African-American voters and much more, CNN political commentator and former Donald Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, who is still receiving severance from the Trump campaign, and executive director of the New York state Democratic Party Basil Smikle. Great to have you both here.

So this coming weekend will be Donald Trump's first campaign event directly to a black audience. He'll be speaking, interviewed by the only African-American owned Christian TV network. Basil, what do you want to hear from Donald Trump?

BASIL SMIKLE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, NEW YORK STATE DEMOCRATIC PARTY: Well, I'd like to hear more than what he tweeted the other day. I found his tweet in the wake of this death to be both insensitive and smacked of political hubris.

CAMEROTA: Let me read that to people in case they don't know what you're talking about, because he did send out this tweet about Dwyane Wade's cousin shot and killed. "Dwyane Wade's cousin was just shot and killed walking her baby in Chicago. Just what I have been saying, African-Americans will vote Trump." An half an hour later he sent out this, or someone from his campaign sent out this, "My condolences to Dwyane Wade and his family on the loss of Nykea Aldridge. They are in my thoughts and prayers." So the second tweet did not, you think, sort of cover up for the first one?

SMIKLE: Not at all. First of all, what I want to say is you have to congratulate the community leaders, the community, and the police officers who seem to bring the shooters to justice there, to individuals charged. And I think that's an important nuance Donald Trump doesn't get and he needs to get if he's going to make a serious pitch to the African-American community, that you have to engage the issues that are impacting the community.

There's a lot of good work being done with community leaders who have been in the fight for a long time, with police officers, with parents. And he doesn't address gun violence, which is endemic in communities of color. Instead, he wraps himself in the flag of the NRA. Those are the issues that he needs to address, and if he doesn't do that, then I think his pitch to African-American community 70, 71 days away from the election will ring hollow.

CAMEROTA: Corey, people are criticizing Donald Trump because they feel the tweets should have been reversed, that his initial reaction should have been sympathy and not sort of exploiting it for his campaign.

COREY LEWANDOWSKI, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Here's what we know about Chicago -- in the last 21 hours, 21 people have been shot in the city of Chicago. That's insane.

[08:10:00] This is an American city. You can't walk down the streets. We've seen what a tragedy has taken place. There's a woman walking down the street with her baby and she's shot and killed. We have more people killed in the city of Chicago from 2012 to 2016 than American soldiers have died in Afghanistan from 2001 to 2015. We need to do something to bring law and order back to our communities. That's just not an African-American community.

You know what the answer is? More community policing, making sure we put more resources in so the people have a right to be safe in their communities. This is leadership at the very top. What that means is meeting with the community leaders, not just the African-American communities, but across the areas where predominantly the Democrats have controlled the major cities for 30, 40, and 50 years, and this type of violence is absolutely unacceptable. SMIKLE: What I think Corey and the campaign fails to understand is

that these conversations have been happening for decades. This is not something that's new. What is new is that Donald Trump is going to go to the African-American community, I think he goes to Detroit later this week. But is he talking about gun violence in our community? His luxury towers are less than three miles from Harlem. Has he gone to an African-American church in Harlem and talked about --

CAMEROTA: But Basil, wouldn't he say that he is talking about gun violence? He's talking about having more police, he's talking about having more policing. Isn't that the answer?

SMIKLE: The law and order message has particular stigma in our community because a lot of times that law and order, especially with someone that has used language like Trump has used, like Rudy Giuliani has used when he was mayor of the city of New York, was not about working with community leaders. It wasn't about bridging a divide between police officers and the community. It was about more aggressive policing. It was about doing things that fractured the community more than brought it together, and that's the fear when he uses language like law and order.

LEWANDOWSKI: I think Basil will agree, and I think we'll all agree, we want our cities to be safe. Whether that's Baltimore or Chicago, there's absolutely no reason that a woman has to walk down the street and get killed. It's unacceptable. And the fact that 21 people in the city of Chicago have been shot in the last 21 hours, we need more law and order. We need more community policing. We need to make sure every community is safe. That starts at the top. That starts with the president of the United States making that the local communities have the resources they need to protect our citizens. It's the number one job of our government.

CAMEROTA: I want to talk about what's going on with the Clinton Foundation and the nexus between that and Hillary Clinton's State Department. This weekend, Donna Brazile, who is the interim head of the DNC, was on some Sunday shows, and she basically said no big deal. Listen to this.

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DONNA BRAZILE: This notion that somehow or another someone who is a supporter, someone who is a donor, somebody who is an activist saying I want access, I want to come into a room and meet people, we all think criminalized behavior that is normal. I don't see what the smoke is. When Republicans meet with their donors and with their supporters, they call it a meeting. When Democrats do that, they call it a conflict.

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CAMEROTA: Basil, what do you think about that explanation when she said all big donors of major foundations expect and meet and greet?

SMIKLE: It's an interesting comment, because, look, I think if you can't control the behavior of some of the folks that want to get meetings, but what you can do is look at the individuals who were being asked. There was no pay to play, there was no quid pro quo.

CAMEROTA: There was access. It feels as though they made a big donation and got some access to the secretary of state.

SMIKLE: But they didn't necessarily get the outcomes they were looking for. And I think that's the --

CAMEROTA: In terms of policy.

SMIKLE: In terms of policy, but also, I think, it's important to say and, I think Donna has said this, the foundation did tremendous and still does tremendous, tremendous work. And if you look at the e- mails, if you look at anything that had been discussed around this, there were individuals asking questions, but they were rebuffed.

LEWANDOWSKI: That's not true. What we know is that the head of the Rockefeller Foundation asked specifically to be seated at the vice president's table for dinner January of 2011. Doug Band made that request to Huma Abedin. We know that that request was then filled. The Rockefeller Foundation gave between $10 million and $25 million --

CAMEROTA: Yes, but so you're seated somewhere at a dinner, who cares?

LEWANDOWSKI: You know how many people would die for the privilege of sitting next to the vice president of the United States to have the opportunity to talk to him?

CAMEROTA: Do you know policy was affected?

LEWANDOWSKI: I don't know. But what I do know is that proximity to power is power. And if you have the opportunity to sit next to -- why do people want to see President Obama or Vice President Biden? Why do they want to meet with Secretary Clinton? Something they want to talk about. Moreover, what we know is not just the crown prince who couldn't get a meeting through the proper channels --

CAMEROTA: Of Bahrain.

LEWANDOWSKI: -- but also got one through the foundation. What we also know is that there was a message relayed in e-mail regarding the ambassador of Malta that they want to make sure this message was provided to the ambassador, and Hhuma Abedin said we'll take care of it. That was done through the foundation, not State Department channels. It's inappropriate at best.

SMIKLE: Number one, in those e-mails there is specific language about them having to go through proper channels, number one. Number two, if you want to look at the impact on policy, let's talk about the Republican platform, for example, that took out language with respect to Russia because the former head of the campaign had dealings with Russia and the Ukraine. So that, to me, is a far more clear sort of impact on policy by individuals in positions of power.

[08:15:00] CAMEROTA: Basil, is it inappropriate that there was no firewall, that when Hillary Clinton went through her nomination process or whatever to become secretary of state, they were very clear, people in Congress expressed concerns about that.

And it was very clear there was going to be a firewall and it doesn't seem as though there was a firewall between the foundation and the State Department.

SMIKLE: No, I think there was an appropriate firewall and if you look at a lot of the reporting and a lot of the folks that have looked at the foundation as a charity and rated it very, very highly, they did a tremendous amount of work, the overhead was pretty much within norm, and so the point that I'm making is think there was a very clear firewall.

CAMEROTA: You do, even though there were these e-mails?

SMIKLE: I do, but the e-mails state, as I mentioned before, anyone asking a question, there was a response which was, you have to go through proper channels.

LEWANDOWSKI: Major media outlets of which are not on the right, the "Huffington Post," the "Boston Globe" have asked the foundation to be closed. The conflict of interest is clearly too high. What they've said is if she's elected president, we will remove ourselves from the foundation. Do it right now. Why is Bill Clinton still part of that? This is a pay for play scandal --

SMIKLE: You can't close it down right away.

LEWANDOWSKI: Of course, you can, sure you can.

SMIKLE: People's lives are at stake.

LEWANDOWSKI: Well, then merger with the Gates Foundation. Let them take over it because they are doing great work, too. So I think they'll have their ways to do this and you shouldn't have to do it based on her ability to be elected, not elected. There's too much conflict here and what we know is that they've known about this for a long time. It's so integrated that it's pay for play.

CAMEROTA: Corey, Basil, thank you very much for your perspectives. Great to have you both on -- Chris.

CUOMO: Chicago's epidemic of gun violence is now hitting the headlines in a different way because of NBA superstar, Dwayne Wade's family loss. Two brothers described by police as gang members on parole are now charged with the murders of Wade's cousin.

CNN's Rachel Crane is live in Chicago with the latest. And this is something that is unique, a celebrity's family member being affected by something that is all too common.

RACHEL CRANE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Chris, today this family still in mourning. Yesterday's Nykea's friends and family came together at a beautiful vigil to celebrate her life. I had the opportunity to sit down with Nykea's mother, Diann, in a very emotional interview. She had a powerful message for the shooters.

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CRANE (voice-over): Chicago police say these are the two men responsible for killing a mother of four over the weekend, brothers, Darwin and Derren Sorells charged with first-degree murder.

EDDIE JOHNSON, CHICAGO POLICE SUPERINTENDENT: When will enough be enough?

CRANE: Police voicing outrage over the shooters' lengthy rap sheets, saying they are both gang members and convicted felons out on parole. Derren, 22, was released from prison just two weeks ago with six felony arrests. Darwin, 26, got out of prison in February. He had been serving a six-year sentence for a felony gun charge.

JOHNSON: We need to put them in jail and keep them there.

CRANE: Caught in a deadly crossfire was 32-year-old Nykea Aldridge, cousin of Chicago Bulls superstar, Dwyane Wade. The tragic death in Wade's hometown shining a spotlight on Chicago's ongoing gun violence epidemic.

PASTOR JOLINDA WADE, DWAYNE WADE'S MOTHER: Just sat up on a panel yesterday, the undefeated, talking about the violence that's going on within our city, Chicago, never knowing that the next day we would be the ones that would be actually living and experiencing it.

CRANE: Aldridge was pushing her baby in a stroller when she was struck in the head and arm by stray bullets. She was on her way to register her older children for school.

DIANN ALDRIDGE, NYKEA ALDRIDGE'S MOTHER: It's just heartbreaking. Oh, God, it's heartbreaking, to raise her own children.

CRANE: But through the pain, Nykea's mother had this emotional message for her daughter's killers.

ALDRIDGE: I truly, truly, from the bottom of my heart, I forgive them.

CRANE: Dwyane Wade tweeting under the #enoughisenough, writing, "another act of senseless gun violence. Four kids lost their mom for no reason. Unreal."

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CRANE: Just heartbreaking, Chris, to hear and see the pain that this mother is going through. Really remarkable that despite all that pain, she's still able to send out that message of forgiveness. And unfortunately, this is not the first time that Diann has lost a child. She lost her oldest daughter about ten years ago also to gun violence -- Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: Oh, my gosh, Rachel, all is so heartbreaking. To hear her raw emotion there and the first instinct is to forgive them, what can you say? She's made of different stock than the rest of us. CUOMO: Her faith is a real gift right now in a time of profound hardship like this. Often people like her who believe in something bigger often tap to into that. Hopefully it helps them through.

[08:20:03]CAMEROTA: We're going to be talking to a former Chicago police officer about what he thinks the problem is there and the solutions.

Also Donald Trump getting ready for what he calls a major speech on immigration. Will he clamp down on deporting all undocumented immigrants? We'll look at what's at stake when it comes to the Latino vote?

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CUOMO: Donald Trump's big speech on immigration is back on. It will be Wednesday in Arizona. What's he going to say? We have also a new look at Trump's big campaign ad out this morning. This is the new wave of the campaign. We'll look at it and discuss its impact.

We have two great reporters for you, CNN political reporter, Sara Murray, and Philip Rucker, a political reporter with "The Washington Post." What an interesting fix the GOP finds themselves in, Mr. Rucker.

They now have Donald Trump saying the kinds of things they wanted him to say about immigration during the primary when he was beating the rest of the field like a pinata for expressing any weakness on the issue of rounding up all 11 million. What does he do now?

PHILLIP RUCKER, NATIONAL POLITICAL REPORTER, "THE WASHINGTON POST": Well, here's the problem, he's not been consistent all week in what he's saying and this speaks to the tension within his campaign. He has some advisers like Rudy Giuliani saying move to the middle, moderate your positions, and try to be more compassionate about those undocumented immigrants in the country illegally.

And other advisers saying stick to the hardline positions and Trump just doesn't know what to do.

[08:25:04]And so what he's doing is waffling day by day, hour by hour in public and, you know, hopefully by Wednesday with this speech we'll have a clear position from him on immigration and deportation policy, but right now one does not exist in his campaign.

CUOMO: Sara, it's interesting, because it would have been hard to see this coming. You know, a leader often is judged by having his or her own head, and if anything else, he had shown that he does what he wants to do. And now it seems like what is going on?

SARA MURRAY, CNN POLITICAL REPORTER: Well, and it's not abnormal for your typical politician to veer toward the center in a general election, but Trump has run on not being your typical politician. He's run on immigration really being the cornerstone of his campaign.

It's worth noting he hasn't wavered on his pledge to build the wall. That's one of the chants that his supporters liked the most, energized about, but he very clearly stated during the Republican primaries, he called for this deportation force.

He said he was going to get rid of everyone who was in the country illegally and let the good ones back in. And that's not the kind of thing he's been saying for the last few days.

So this is something -- there are really two things you need to watch for, how he's going to deal with these 11 million undocumented immigrants in the U.S.

But also remember, Chris, he called for an end to birthright citizenship, saying even if you were born in the United States while your parents were undocumented immigrants, you should not be allowed to be a citizen. So we should see if he addresses that on Wednesday as well and if that's another shift.

CUOMO: But then he was also talking about working with them in quotes. What does that mean? Something else that is going on in the campaign that is an exercising clarity is this new ad that Donald Trump has out. It's called "The Two Americas." Here it is.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): In Hillary Clinton's America, the middle class gets crushed. Spending goes up. Taxes go up. Hundreds of thousands of jobs appear. It's more of the same but worse. In Donald Trump's America, working families get tax relief. Millions of new jobs created. Wages go up. Small businesses thrive. The American dream achievable. Change that makes America great again.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CUOMO: I think this is going to be some nine or ten states it's going to run in. It's a $9 or $10 million ad buy, big move for them. Phillip Rucker, how do you see it?

RUCKER: Well, it's an effective message and I think a lot of Republicans will tell you if Donald Trump had been talking about what the ad said all summer long he might be in a much better position in the polls now. It's a real contrast with Clinton.

One thing it's missing is any sense of compassion from Donald Trump. I'm surprised because he's been obliterated in these battleground states on TV all summer long by Clinton talking about his temperament, judgment, character, and he's not found a way to respond to that in ads.

You don't see his daughter, Ivanka, on TV. So it's interesting. Maybe we'll get to that later.

CUOMO: One thing, one challenge at a time, Phillip, one challenge at a time. Sara, another problem with the ad, as all ads face is going to be political fact check. You're going to have a lot of economists who say they believe his plans as thus stated so far will actually take jobs from those communities. MURRAY: That's right. There is always going to be this difficulty when it comes to comparing economic policies and there have been a number of economists, both Republicans and Democrats, who criticized Donald Trump's economic policies, particularly on trade, saying when you have that sort of protectionist view it's actually worse for American workers.

But this is something the Republican struggled to convey to their base, part of the reason that Donald Trump rose in the primaries. It wasn't just immigration, it was also his message on the economy and on trade.

But Chris, the other thing that's interesting about the ad, it's running in nine different states, but those states include New Hampshire, Virginia, Colorado. These are places where Donald is not doing very well at all in the polls.

He's trailing Hillary Clinton by relatively large margins, and so that says the Trump campaign is not ready at this point to cede any of those states to Clinton. That they are at least willing to throw some money at it and see if they can close those margins a little bit.

CUOMO: Strong point. We also see that in his push for African- American access. The margin of victory between Romney and Obama in big states like Florida, Ohio, Nevada, which will be a playing field in this race, were often the same margin as the margin difference in the black vote. Do you think that's playing into the calculus, Phillip Rucker?

RUCKER: Yes, certainly. Look, Donald Trump is trying to improve his numbers with African-American voters. He doesn't really have anywhere to go but up, and we're going to see him over the weekend speak to a black religious audience in Detroit and do other events like that.

I don't know it's going to work, but the campaign feels if they could make inroads with a couple of percentage points, it could make a difference in a state like North Carolina, which is a really key battleground this fall.

CUOMO: Good, smart reporters help us all in the morning. Phillip Rucker, Sara Murray, thank you so much -- Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: NBA superstar, Dwayne Wade's cousin was killed this weekend in Chicago and her tragedy is getting a lot of attention, but she's just one of several victims who were killed in a surge of gun violence.