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CUOMO: ... the election. Donald Trump says he has a secret plan to do that. And that he's going to demand that his top generals give him a new plan to defeat ISIS in 30 days. Hillary Clinton is slamming Trump's secret plan as saying he has no plan.

[07:00:14] CAMEROTA: Meanwhile, there's growing scrutiny over Trump's political donations, and his history of violating campaign laws. Has he been paying to play? The stakes could not be higher. We have 62 days go until the election, and the first votes will be cast in 16 days when early voting begins in some states.

Clinton and Trump will face off in their first presidential debate in just 19 days. Let's begin our coverage with CNN's Sara Murray. She's live in Greenville, South Carolina, for us -- Sara.

SARA MURRAY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Alisyn.

Well, our latest CNN poll shows that Hillary Clinton edges out Donald Trump on who is best prepared to be commander in chief, but Trump is looking to turn those numbers around, laying some sharp criticism on Hillary Clinton.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: She never talks about policy.

MURRAY (voice-over): Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton clashing over who's ready to be commander in chief.

HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: He has no clue about what he's talking about.

MURRAY: Trump unveiling endorsements from nearly 90 retired U.S. military leaders and revealing his plan to demands a plan to take down ISIS.

TRUMP: We're going to convene my top generals and give them a simple instruction. They will have 30 days to submit to the Oval Office, a plan for soundly and quickly defeating ISIS.

CLINTON: He says he has a secret plan to defeat ISIS. But the secret is, he has no plan.

MURRAY: And Clinton warns Trump will lead the U.S. back to war. CLINTON: When it comes to fighting ISIS, he has been all over the

map. You would have to literally map it out.

He's talked about letting Syria become a free zone for ISIS. Look at the map, Donald. He's talked about sending in American ground troops. Not on my watch.

MURRAY: the Democratic nominee capitalizing on Trump's own words about veterans in this new ad.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: John McCain, a war hero.

TRUMP: He's not a war hero.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A war hero.

TRUMP: He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren't captured, OK?

MURRAY: As she touts her own military supporters.

CLINTON: They know that they cannot count on Donald Trump. They view him as a danger and a risk.

MURRAY: But Trump continues to argue Clinton is the risky one.

TRUMP: Hillary Clinton favors what is called military adventurism.

Rushing to invade countries, displacing millions of families, and then inviting the refugees into our country, creating power vacuums filled by terrorist groups like ISIS.

MURRAY: As the two rival trade barbs over who qualifies as friend or foe.

TRUMP: Hillary likes to play tough with Russia. Putin looks at her, and he laughs. OK. Russia doesn't like ISIS any better than we do. Wouldn't it be nice if we actually got along with Russia, and you could knock them out together? Wouldn't that be a good thing?

CLINTON: We're going to work with our allies, not insult them. We're going to stand up to our adversaries, not cozy up to them.

MURRAY: Trump also taking aim at Clinton's private e-mail server highlighting the FBI's revelation that one of her aides destroyed old phones with a hammer.

TRUMP: Very shady activity.

MURRAY: And seizing on Clinton's repeated claim in her FBI interview that there were some details she just couldn't recall.

TRUMP: If she really can't remember, she can't be president. She hasn't remembered anything. "Were you instructed on how to use it?" "I can't remember."

(END VIDEOTAPE)

MURRAY: Now, the focus on national security continues for both candidates on the campaign trail. Today, we're expecting Donald Trump to continue to draw these contrasts between his approach to foreign policy, as well as Clinton's.

But we're also expecting him to call for an end to sequestration. He's supposed to lay out his plans for bolstering the military and also explain how he will pay for it.

Back to you guys.

CAMEROTA: OK, Sara. Thanks so much for all of that reporting.

Hillary Clinton slamming Donald Trump, accusing him of concealing his foundation's $25,000 donation to the campaign of Florida attorney general Pam Bondi as she was considering investigating fraud claims against Trump University. Now we're learning this is not the first time that Trump's political donations violated rules.

CNN senior Washington correspondent Jeff Zeleny joins us now with more. What have you learned, Jeff?

JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Hey, good morning, Alisyn.

Now, Donald Trump has often railed about what he calls a rigged political system. This morning, a fresh reminder that he's been part of the system for a long time.

It's this $25,000 donation from his foundation to the Florida attorney general that's receiving fresh scrutiny, because it came just as her office was set to review allegations of fraud at Trump University.

Now, foundations, of course, are not allowed to make such political contributions. So he was slapped by a $2,500 fine by the IRS.

The Clinton campaign back on offense this morning, with Hillary and Bill Clinton raising all of this and his unwillingness to release his tax return.

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[07:05:00] CLINTON: Surely, the list goes on and on, the scams, the frauds, the questionable relationships. The business activities that have stiffed workers, refused to pay small businesses. So clearly, his tax returns tell a story that the American people deserve and need to know.

BILL CLINTON, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I got tickled the other day when Mr. Trump called my foundation a criminal enterprise. He made a political contribution to the attorney general of Florida, who at the time had her office investigating Trump University. And mysteriously, the investigation vanished.

(END VIDEO CLIP) ZELENY: Now, Trump says he never discussed this case with Florida attorney general Pam Bondi or anyone. Now, she says this morning she was not considering investigating her, but in fact, her office was. But a comment he made last summer is still resonating. He said this: "When you give, they do whatever the hell you want them to do."

That is a reference to his political contributions for more than three decades, which includes a laundry list of evading limits and, in some case, breaking campaign finance laws.

CAMEROTA: "The New York Times" this morning lays it out just as you have, examples of different donations that he has given. So, is this -- is this a loophole that he has found? Or are these actual legal violations?

ZELENY: In some cases there are legal violations, and he has been fined by local entities largely shared in New York City. We can look at a list of some of them, I believe.

In 1985, he evaded a limit by 18 subsidiary companies there. In 1990s, he was fined for exceeding limits by nearly $50,000.

CAMEROTA: Illegal.

ZELENY: And in 2000, fined $250,000 by New York.

And now, of course, these tens of thousands of dollars to four attorneys general, two Republicans, two Democrats, looking into Trump University. So it certainly takes away any veneer over the fact that he is, "A," new to the political system, and "B," it sort of would change the system, because he's in fact, he's been a part of this system for a very long time.

CAMEROTA: And it certainly continues this pay-to-play conversation that we have been having for weeks now.

ZELENY: And it's on both sides. But in case, there are actual examples of where he's been charged with doing so. In the Clinton Foundation, there have been similar allegations, but we have found no smoking guns.

CAMEROTA: Jeff Zeleny, thank you for all of that reporting. Let's get over to Chris.

CUOMO: Policy and politics to discuss. Let's bring in the CNN political commentators. Christine Quinn, Hillary Clinton supporter and vice chair of the New York state Democratic Party. And Corey Lewandowski, former Trump campaign manager, still receiving severance from the Trump campaign. We have both. Let's talk about national security. Donald Trump says he has a secret plan and then says he's going to demand a plan within 30 days from his generals.

That rankles some of the military leadership who feel that it is dismissive of their efforts for the last 14 years.

Lieutenant General Mark Hertling ran the operation in Iraq, was commander of Europe's army. Here's what he had to say on "ANDERSON COOPER" last night.

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LT. GEN. MARK HERTLING (RET.), CNN MILITARY ANALYST: I had to ask myself, what the hell does he think we've been trying to do for the last 14 years in terms of al Qaeda? It shows a complete lack of understanding of the threat and the ways to fight it. It's a sophomoric approach to -- to elements of national security policy.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CUOMO: From the Trump perspective, though, what is the genius of asking for a 30-day plan?

COREY LEWANDOWSKI, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Well, first, let me say what the general also said was he didn't recognize many of the names who were on that list of 88 admirals and generals who supported Donald Trump yesterday and said, "I don't know if they were on the front lines fighting." I think that's disgusting, to be honest with you. I think you've got General Mike Flynn, who's a retired three-star general, who's the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, the agency tasked with making sure our national secrets are protected. He's advising Donald Trump on a daily basis. We've got this individual saying, "I don't recognize those people, so I don't know if they're qualified." The fact that...

CUOMO: It's a sidebar conversation.

LEWANDOWSKI: It is.

CUOMO: It's fair for you to make the point, if it bothers you. But know this: Lieutenant General Mark Hertling is nobody's -- he's no one to assail when it comes to character. You know his history. He has a right to say whatever he wants.

LEWANDOWSKI: Four-star generals who were on the list yesterday who endorsed Donald Trump and his plan to move forward. So the question is, we've got one general who doesn't support want to support Donald Trump. He's entitled to his opinion, but do not disparage the 88 generals...

CUOMO: Right.

LEWANDOWSKI: ... who spent their entire career protecting our country...

CUOMO: My question is this. The 30-day demand: why is that the right way to go?

LEWANDOWSKI: Because I think what you have with Donald Trump is you have a leader. And what he's already doing is he's sitting down with these generals and admirals from around the country and our best military experts, saying, "The day I take office, 30 days from that day, from January 20, 30 days later, we're going to have a plan that is precise, concise and will take out ISIS immediately." CHRISTINE QUINN, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Now, remember, this is a

man, Donald Trump, who has said he knows more about ISIS than the generals, that he knows the most about ISIS out there. From word go, that's insulting to our military leaders, because they have been admirals and generals, 95 of whom, many Republicans, are supporting Hillary Clinton. They've been on the front lines. No one should assume they know more than the men and women who are fighting and leading.

[07:10:12] Two, I don't really get -- he has a secret plan. Do we ever get to see it? Like, you know, Chaos from "Get Smart," some secret, you know, silent cone? What's happened?

And if he has a secret plan, why on day one wouldn't he give that secret plan to the admirals and the generals and ask them to review it and work with him on it?

He's really following through, unfortunately, in his -- from his statement at the Republican National Convention, where he said, "It's all about" -- I'm paraphrasing, but "all about me. I can get it done. I'm the one person who gets done." When in fact, this is a long, complicated effort and task and mission we need to finish. And dictating to those who have been our leaders is not going to get that done.

CUOMO: Has Hillary Clinton spent too much time critiquing Donald Trump as a potential leader and not enough time spelling out her actual policy distinguishing characteristics?

QUINN: Well, you know, I think Secretary Clinton has spent, fairly, a lot of time pointing out what is incorrect and wrong about Donald Trump's temperament, his vision, and his lack of real plans. And if she wasn't doing that, the media would be saying, "Why is she letting him get away with it?" And when somebody continues to act in a way that is racist and is clearly about their own financial interests, you just can't let that stand. And I think Secretary Clinton...

CUOMO: Right. But Donald Trump isn't who people are afraid of not -- of attacking them in the night. It's terror. So why doesn't Clinton focus on her supposed advantage, which is I understand policy? "I know how to do this." Why doesn't she talk about that and use that as a highlighting distinction, as opposed to just playing the "Who's worse" battle?

QUINN: Well, one, I think she has to play that, because what's -- or do that, because what's at risk is so significant in the world as it relates to foreign policy, as it relates to security. And having someone who has, clearly, an unstable temperament leading our country is too dangerous, that potential to ignore.

Beyond that, I think if you look at the Clinton campaign, they've put out far more specifics than the Trump campaign in this area and in every area. And if you look at voters...

CUOMO: But dumping stuff on the website is a little bit of like, you know, a side play. I'm talking about the mainstream narrative. But let me move on to something else.

Have you seen the secret plan? Hold on a second. You have seen the secret plan? I'm not asking you what the secret plan is. Have you seen the secret plan?

LEWANDOWSKI: No, I haven't seen the plan.

QUINN: Here's a mike.

LEWANDOWSKI: But the answer is, right, Donald Trump is someone who gets things done. And what the Clinton campaign is right now, is they're in free fall. They're losing independents by 20 points in their own -- in CNN's own poll. They're losing married women by 18 points. Their enthusiasm gap in the Clinton campaign is down through the floor.

So what you're seeing is, now that we're post-Labor Day, 62 days to go in this election. Donald Trump has continued to decimate what was their post-convention hype. Their eight-point lead is now a 2-point deficit or more. And the problem is people aren't enthused about it.

So you know what people want? Leadership. But when it comes to defeating ISIS and defeating terrorism, people believe and they know that Donald Trump is going to do that better than Hillary Clinton would. When it came to Brexit, Donald Trump called it right. Hillary Clinton got it wrong. These are supposed to be her advantages, and they're detriments to her.

QUINN: First of all, calling the results of an election right isn't leadership. And saying the results of Brexit were going to be good for him because he would make more money is the opposite of leadership. It's selfishness.

Beyond that, there are a myriad of polls out there right now, and that's true -- and we also knew the race would close, getting closer. I think both sides knew that. But there are a myriad of polls out there. There's an MSNBC poll out there that has Hillary Clinton solidly leading. And in that poll, 56 percent of those polled say that Hillary Clinton is the person who has the best and most significant foreign policy experience.

CUOMO: Well, there's a...

QUINN: Critical to national security.

CUOMO: Just to lay that out for the audience and the way they can get it. There's a paradox. If you talk about who will keep you safe from ISIS, Trump does better in polls. If you talk about who's better on national security, Clinton does better on polls. So it's a little bit of confusion in the picture there, which many polls also are.

The mainstay of this race, though, and I would suggest it's because of what has been motivated by both campaigns, is the character contest. And we have developments on both sides.

When you were running the show over there, were you aware of how long Trump had been running around campaign laws? And was that a concern to you guys in making the effort to go after Clinton for pay-for-play?

LEWANDOWSKI: Look, what we have known, and when I was at the campaign, you know, we had seen the full analysis of how much money he's contributed to Republicans and Democrats over the past 40 years.

As a businessman, as someone who wanted to make sure that his company and his family and the business had the best opportunities. You know, to get done what he did in New York was unparalleled. To get the build the entire West Side, right? To have the support of the city council, to have the support of the leadership in Albany, right? Republicans, Democrats, senators, congressmen, right down the line from Hillary Clinton to George Bush. Right? Donald Trump was an equal opportunity supporter, because he wanted to make sure that there, as a business executive.

[07:15:09] CUOMO: What I'm saying is, if you're going after the Clinton Foundation for allegations of pay-for-play, right? He's very hot and heavy on this. It's really wrong. That shows that -- he did that as a main behavior. He tried to find ways to circumvent the law.

I mean, put up what "The New York Times" has today. This isn't formal opinion. It's in "the New York Times." There's a list of things that have actually happened where he was caught and had to pay fines. How does that make -- hold on for a second -- how does that make you a change agent? We get what the problem is. We get that it's corrupt. But if you exploit the corruption, how are you going to change it?

LEWANDOWSKI: Well, here's what he said. He said this many times. He was the fair-haired one. Right. He was the person who knew the system better than anybody. And he's the only person who could go and change it, because he knew it well.

What he didn't do is he didn't make $100 million in service of the federal government, step out of the government and get paid tens of millions of dollars. He made his money in the private sector. And he used the rules in the private sector to benefit his company. That's what businesses do.

CUOMO: He also used the rules and broke the rules and paid fines for it. Even if you believe your thought process there, right, that he just used the rules, you know, nothing wrong with that, that's not what happened.

QUINN: He, in fact, broke the rules, subverted the rules and at times was fined largest fines those authorities have ever given out. It's not just about donations. When he was lobbying against a casino upstate in the interests of his own business, he failed to divulge that he was working in coordination with Roger Ailes and others and that and he was fined...

CUOMO: Roger Stone.

QUINN: I'm sorry, Roger Stone. They failed to disclose what they were doing and were fined collectively $250,000. That's an enormous fine, and it's not just that gave money to somebody. They were lying... LEWANDOWSKI: Maybe -- maybe he said, "I don't remember" 39 times in an FBI interview, right?

QUINN: He broke the law.

LEWANDOWSKI: Maybe he forgot to turn over 33,000...

CUOMO: The deposition that he does when he sued O'Brien, how many times he talked about what he didn't know and knew in that deposition. People say certain things when they're under scrutiny being questioned. We get that. We get that about protecting your own interests.

QUINN: He broke the law.

CUOMO: Here's how -- what I want to ask you. I don't understand where your confidence is on this, because when it comes to, well, you know, he was trying to get around the system. Thirteen phones they destroyed with hammers, the FBI report says when it comes out? How are your voters supposed to take that? It's not just about, "Oh, I had my own e-mail server. It was a mistake. I shouldn't have done it. It's against the guidelines. Hey, they said I could delete some e-mails, so I did." Bashing phones with hammers? Who does that?

QUINN: Look, at the end of the day, as it relates to this...

CUOMO: I'm saying if you're going to get high and mighty about what Trump did...

QUINN: Well, look...

CUOMO: ... how do you feel about the hammers and the phones?

QUINN: At the end of the day -- at the end of the day, the FBI said there was nothing to investigate, nothing to move forward. As opposed to the case in Mr. Trump, where he's been fined by the Federal Election Committee, the New York State Lobbying Commission. He gave a $50,000 loan to the president of New York City Council. And he paid it.

CUOMO: The problem is with Trump, the voters are analyzing what they know about him and probably won't like. With Clinton, there's this question mark about what they don't know. And why they don't know it and what they might not like.

QUINN: There's very little that isn't known about...

CUOMO: Bashed up the phones, the e-mails that they can't recover.

QUINN: At this point, I think there's very little that isn't known. But what's also a fact is these illegal donations and corrupt lobbying efforts have not gotten the attention they should have.

I'm not saying the e-mails don't deserve attention. Of course they do, and they have gotten them; but we also need to have attention on these types of donations, which were clearly done, as Corey said, to help his business and his families. Not abiding by the law and not with a focus on what was best.

CUOMO: Final thought.

LEWANDOWSKI: There is no person in America who uses and destroys 13 phones unless they're doing something nefarious. That's something that is used -- you know, that's what you see with burner phones and you destroy them so you can't be tracked, what you're doing. It's egregious to think that the federal government has bought Hillary Clinton 13 phones in a one-year period.

CUOMO: It wasn't just her, right?

LEWANDOWSKI: Well, they're destroyed. The people who were working with her in an official capacity, those have been destroyed. And what we've seen time and time again, is that we're finding more information of illicit activity to hide the e-mail scandal it continues to perpetuate.

QUINN: And now we're finally finding out more information about Donald Trump's corrupt use of donations...

CUOMO: Yes.

QUINN: ... and breaking the lobbying law. That is hugely significant. To hide coordination.

CUOMO: And it's actually why the voters are faced with such a difficult choice in this election. And it's often coming down to who's less bad when it comes to this character contest.

Corey, thank you very much.

Christine, as always.

Alisyn, there is nothing like knowing that both people sitting across from you are not happy.

CAMEROTA: And don't like you.

CUOMO: That's a given.

CAMEROTA: Meanwhile, to further on your point, Chris, Republicans are pushing for the FBI to reopen that investigation into Hillary Clinton's e-mails just as a Congressional committee schedules for hearings.

[07:20:03] We will talk to a Clinton supporter in the house about what this means, next.

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REP. JASON CHAFFETZ (R), UTAH: The House has responsibility. These are not Hillary Clinton's e-mails. These are federal records, and I believe it's one of potentially the biggest breaches of security in the history of the State Department. You can't just let all this classified information and four years of records go out the door without some accountability and without us making sure that it never happened.

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CAMEROTA: Well, that was the Republican chairman of the House Oversight Committee, Jason Chaffetz, making the case for new hearings on Hillary Clinton's e-mails starting tomorrow.

This as an FBI report on Friday revealed that this tech company working on Clinton's behalf deleted a number of her e-mails after a congressional order was issued to preserve them.

So let's discuss this and so much more with Congressman Adam Schiff. He's a Clinton supporter and a ranking member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Congressman, thanks so much for being here with us this morning on NEW DAY.

REP. ADAM SCHIFF (D), CALIFORNIA: You bet. Good to be with you.

CAMEROTA: So what do you make of these new hearings that Jason Chaffetz is calling for? I mean, basically, his rationale is that there's new information that has come to light that warrants new hearings, basically, that these e-mails were deleted by an I.T. guy, using Bleach Bit, I mean, to sort of permanently wipe them, after the Benghazi committee called for them to be preserved. Doesn't that warrant a new investigation?

[07:25:23] SCHIFF: No, there's no -- nothing to warrant a new investigation.

The FBI looked into all of these facts and concluded that there was no illegality. That, in fact, no reasonable prosecutor would bring a case under these facts.

What we're seeing is not really a new rationale by Jason Chaffetz. We're seeing the same old rationale that gets back to Kevin McCarthy's comments that were at the origin of Benghazi Select Committee, which I served on for the last two years, and that is driving Hillary Clinton's poll numbers down. That's really the only motivation. Really the only reason to open a case the FBI just closed.

CAMEROTA: Yes.

SCHIFF: And we just spent two years and $7 million on a wild goose chase, looking for some facts that could tie Hillary Clinton to a stand-down order in Benghazi or a cover-up in Benghazi. And after two years, we found nothing along those lines. And I'm afraid this is just more congressional expenditure in the service of a political campaign.

CAMEROTA: But Congressman, isn't there new information? I mean, at least the public did not know that something like a dozen of the Blackberries that Mrs. Clinton used were destroyed by a hammer by one of her staff. And they didn't know that the Bleach Bit was used, in violation of the congressional request to preserve all of her e-mails. Isn't this new information that can be delved into?

SCHIFF: Well, you know, certainly, anything can be delved into. Is it new information? No, this is information that was actually uncovered by the FBI investigation. So these are all facts the FBI considered and nonetheless found no attempt to hide information, no evidence of an attempt to violate the law. And said very sharply...

CAMEROTA: But wait a second. I'm sorry to interrupt you...

SCHIFF: Yes.

CAMEROTA: ... BUT no -- no effort to hide information? Why were her Blackberry devices destroyed by a hammer? Why go to that length?

SCHIFF: Well, you know, I don't know the answer, but this is, I think, part of the problem with revealing and leaking only parts of an investigation. We don't know the full facts that surround it. But we do know that the FBI has investigated the full facts. They did a thorough and very exhaustive investigation. That's one of the things that leaps out at you when you look at the files they provided to Congress, which in and of themselves are only a small subset. And that is they really did they homework on this and concluded -- and concluded that there was nothing that could be prosecuted by any reasonable prosecutor.

At some point, you have to be willing to say, "OK, we accept the conclusion of the neutral professionals at the FBI."

CAMEROTA: Yes.

SCHIFF: But, of course, that's not in the service of the political campaign, so we go on.

I do want to -- I do want to comment on something if I could, about the prior discussion about Donald Trump's secret plan for defeating ISIS. Because as someone who focuses on national security every day, this really leaps out.

We've been told for months he has a secret plan, that he knows better than the generals. And now he suddenly announces he's going to ask those generals he knows better than for a plan within 30 days. Well, you could defeat ISIS in short order if you're willing to send in tens of thousands, if not 100,000 American troops.

But what Donald Trump isn't willing to tell the country is would he entertain that kind of a plan? And this is why I think he's really just ready for prime time.

CAMEROTA: And because you're on the intelligence committee, I do want to ask you about something else that has cropped up in the campaign, and that is, Russia allegedly hacking into the DNC computers.

Do you think, from the intelligence that you can share, that Vladimir Putin is trying to insert himself and meddle in this presidential election?

SCHIFF: You know, I can only comment on the public available information. But there's a lot of public available information, thanks to these very credible private firms that have done the investigation for the DNC and the DCCC.

And yes, I think there's abundant publicly available information that Russia hacked into these systems. And I also think it's quite clear that they have the motive and the means and the history of dumping information to affect political outcomes.

Here I think they've got a couple motivations. I think they have the motivation of discrediting our democracy. We are in a battle of ideas worldwide, where we are the champions of democracy, and they're the champions of authoritarianism. So anything they can do to discredit our political processes, they think, is a win.

But they clearly also have a favorite candidate here who wants to undermine NATO. That is Trump. Who potentially wants to recognize Russia's illegal annexation of Crimea. Who potentially wants to do away with the sanctions against Russia, who speaks glowingly of Putin.

And on the other hand, they have a candidate in Secretary Clinton who they know will maintain sanctions against Russia and knows that she has the ability that she demonstrated to build an international coalition to maintain those sections -- sanctions.

So it's pretty clear who the Russians want. And it's pretty clear that the Russians also want to impeach our very democracy.

CAMEROTA: Troubling stuff, Congressman Adam Schiff, thank you for being on NEW DAY and talking about all of that.

SCHIFF: Thanks, Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: Let's get over to Chris.

CUOMO: Clinton has...