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Hillary Clinton's Pneumonia Jolts 2016 Race; Trump Releases New Ad on 'Basket of Deplorables' Comment; Clinton: Trump's 'Ignorance about Russia' is Dangerous. Aired 7-7:30a ET

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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: He's been nice to me.

[07:00:03] HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: This is just more of his loose talk that really doesn't have any substance to it.

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ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo and Alisyn Camerota.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning. Welcome to your NEW DAY. Hillary Clinton's pneumonia diagnosis raises a big question in this race. What set it all off? This video: Clinton being helped into a van as she left the 9/11 memorial service early.

This morning, Clinton is off the campaign trail, canceling a two-day trip to California. There's a bigger question here, is what's her health specifically, yes. But why don't we know the health situation of both candidates? Don't the voters deserve to know what the health is of these two people?

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: Donald Trump has been surprisingly reserved about Clinton's health scare. We have an exclusive interview with Hillary Clinton in just moments. We have 57 days now until the election, 11 days until early voting begins in some states, and the two candidates will face off in their first debate two weeks from tonight.

So, we have it all covered for you. Let's begin with senior Washington correspondent Jeff Zeleny. He's near Clinton's home in Chappaqua, New York. What's the latest, Jeff?

JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Alisyn.

Hillary Clinton was set to begin a three-day West Coast swing today, with stops in San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Las Vegas. But she is at home resting under doctor's orders now for dehydration and pneumonia. These questions about her health have gone from conspiracy theory to now a genuine campaign issue.

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ZELENY (voice-over): Hillary Clinton off the campaign trail this morning as she recovers from pneumonia, canceling a two-day trip to California. Her health thrust into the spotlight after aides said she became overheated and dehydrated while attending the 9/11 ceremony at Ground Zero.

This video shows Clinton leaving early, and as she tries stepping into her van, she wobbles and slumps. Secret Service agents and aides quickly grab her and hold her up. Two law enforcement sources telling CNN she appeared to faint.

Clinton then taken to her daughter Chelsea's apartment three miles away. More than an hour later, Clinton emerged, smiling.

CLINTON: It's a beautiful day.

ZELENY: Even taking a picture with a young girl before climbing into her motorcade and heading home.

Her campaign says she was even playing with her two grandkids inside. Yet hours later, her doctor revealing the 68-year-old was diagnosed with pneumonia two days earlier...

CLINTON: Do you have some water?

ZELENY: ... after an evaluation for her prolonged cough.

CLINTON: Every time I think about Trump, I get allergic.

ZELENY: Despite the diagnosis on Friday, she continued a grueling schedule, holding two fund-raisers in New York City, a large national security briefing and press conference, along with an interview with our own Chris Cuomo and other media outlets.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Her health incident this morning?

TRUMP: I don't know anything about it.

ZELENY: Donald Trump, just feet away from his rival at Ground Zero, unusually quiet over her diagnosis after speculating about her health for months.

TRUMP: I think she doesn't have the stamina.

Hillary Clinton does not have the stamina.

I watched Hillary, who doesn't have the strength or the stamina.

ZELENY: Republicans close to the Trump campaign telling CNN they want to be respectful of the health issue. Staff and campaign surrogates instructing supporters not to post anything on social media.

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ZELENY: Now, we'll see how long Donald Trump and his aides stick with that, but the reality here is, Alisyn, we know less about the health of Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton than most recent presidential nominees. She is 68 years old. He is 70 years old. They've only released scant information. She's released a bit more than him. But that is why this is a central issue and why it matters in this campaign. We are two weeks before the biggest moment, that first debate, which happens here in New York two weeks from tonight.

CAMEROTA: Right. Important to remind voters that we don't know enough about their health histories. Jeff, thank you very much.

So, moments ago the Trump campaign seizing on Clinton's other stumble this weekend, a verbal stumble. Releasing a new attack ad based on Clinton's, quote, "basket of deplorables" comment, which she now says she regrets.

CNN's Jason Carroll joins us now with more. Tell us the latest here, Jason.

JASON CARROLL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning to you.

The Trump campaign not wasting any time going after Hillary Clinton for her comments. They already have that brand-new attack ad out just this morning, highlighting the moment Clinton made her "basket of deplorables" comment, which she made Friday night at a fund-raiser in New York.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Speaking to wealthy donors, Hillary Clinton called tens of millions of Americans deplorable.

CLINTON: You could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic. You name it.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: People like you, you and you. Deplorable. You know what's deplorable? Hillary Clinton viciously demonizing hard working people like you.

TRUMP: I'm Donald Trump, and I approve this message.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

[07:05:02] CARROLL: Again, that attack ad out just this morning.

Clinton also said there should be empathy for a number of Trump supporters who feel let down by the government and the economy.

She said the "basket of deplorables" was in reference to people who support Trump and also have racist and xenophobic leanings. Clinton released a statement clarifying her remarks, saying, "Last night I was grossly generalistic, and that's never a good idea. I regret saying 'half'; that was wrong. But let's be clear: what's really deplorable is that Donald Trump hired a major advocate for the so-called alt- right movement to run his campaign and that David Duke and other white supremacists see him as a champion of their values."

It should be noted that Trump also has said the regrets some of the comments he has made out on the campaign trail. He wasn't specific about which ones, but last month he admitted during a speech sometimes he said what he has said, he has called the wrong thing -- Chris.

CUOMO: All right, Jason, thank you very much.

Let's discuss with our CNN political commentators. Got Corey Lewandowski, former Trump campaign manager, still receiving severance from the Trump campaign; and Bakari Sellers, a Clinton supporter and former South Carolina state rep.

Let's start with the deplorables. Corey, you made a campaign out of it, and you think it's a bad deal. Why do you believe this is so important?

COREY LEWANDOWSKI, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Let me read a quote. Let me read a quote. "We need a president who is fighting for all Americans, not one that nearly writes off half the country." You know who said that?

CUOMO: I did.

LEWANDOWSKI: Barack Obama.

CUOMO: Barack Obama said that?

LEWANDOWSKI: Barack Obama said that, and what we have now is Hillary Clinton, who's taking 14 million people who supported Donald Trump in the primary and then tens of millions of people who are supporting his campaign, the general election, and putting them into a basket and generalizing and saying they're deplorable people.

That's Iraq War veterans. That's families who've been victims of illegal aliens. That's hard-working men and women who've had their jobs shipped overseas. This is a gross generalization, and it's really sad that she's put all these people in one giant basket and saying they're deplorable for supporting someone who wants to put Americans first.

CUOMO: Bakari.

BAKARI SELLERS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, that's not true at all. I mean, I think Corey just completely took this out of context.

What is deplorable and what I have no respect for are the xenophobes in this country, the bigots in this country. Hillary Clinton was talking directly to those people. People have tried to lump this comment in with the comment that Mitt Romney made about 47 percent. And the difference is quite vast. Mitt Romney showed animus towards the poor. Hillary Clinton is showing animus towards the racists.

So no, she's not talking about those individuals who may have been killed by illegal immigrants. No, she's not talking about those hard- working men and women every day in the steel mills and mills throughout the country. No, she's not talking about Iraq War veterans.

But she is talking about racists. And if you are a bigot or you are a racist and you are supporting Donald Trump, she's talking about you. Look, all Donald Trump's supporters are not racists and bigots by any

means, any stretch. Corey, you're a friend of mine; I don't put you in that category at all. But you do have to be comfortable supporting someone who is a bigot and who does dabble in bigotry.

LEWANDOWSKI: I don't disagree, and Bakari and I agree on one thing. Right? Not everybody follows their candidate and has all the views that those candidates have.

But what I do think is that there are tens of millions of people right now who are supporting Donald Trump who take exception to the fact that they've been lumped into a category by a party's nominee of putting them into a bucket, a basket, if you will, calling them names that aren't applicable.

CUOMO: All right. So that's the ad. Now, let's talk about the other big headline this morning, which is Clinton's health. You guys have been uncharacteristically quiet about what could see -- be seen as a weakness. Donald Trump this morning said something is going on, but he doesn't know what; and he just hopes that the secretary gets well.

What do you think this means, the bout of pneumonia? What does it mean to you?

LEWANDOWSKI: Look, here's what I think. I'm not a doctor, and neither is Donald Trump. And I think that we should leave this to the professionals. I think it's up to Hillary Clinton to disclose if she has health issues and, if she is willing to release all of her medical records, I think both her and Donald Trump should release their full medical records so that the people of the country can make the determination on who is fit from a physical perspective to be the president of the United States. If there's no issues there, release both of their records in their entirety.

CUOMO: Trump said that he's going to put them out this week. Now, what if he doesn't? You know, what if Clinton doesn't respond? How important do you think this is? Both of them have not released the kind of information that we have gotten from candidates in the past. Both of them.

The letter from Trump was a joke by that doctor. Now we see with Clinton it took a while to get the disclosure out. Do you think this should be mandatory? And what should be in those records?

LEWANDOWSKI: I don't think it should be mandatory. But I do think that, look, John McCain released his records. He talked about his -- his battles with cancer. Right? I think what we should have is Donald Trump, who's 70 years old. Hillary Clinton turns 69 next month, right? Release their medical records. Let the American people see if there are any issues -- cholesterol, blood pressure, you know, stroke, health issues, whatever it may be. Let the American people see that so they can make a determination who is physically healthy enough. And if they're both physically healthy, then, great, then you go back to the issues.

[07:10:05] But if there is a major health concern -- I'm not saying there is. But if there is a concern in those medical records, the American people should be made aware of it before they vote in November.

CUOMO: Do you agree with that? And what do you think about the fact that neither of these candidates has put it up yet?

SELLERS: Well, I actually do agree that both candidates should give more information than they have about their medical records; and I think that you will see that. John McCain, who would have been the oldest sitting president if he would have beaten Barack Obama back in 2008, actually released the last eight years of his medical records. And yes, thank God he beat those bouts of cancer.

I think both of these candidates have to do a better job of putting their medical records out or at least giving us some more information about their health history. And I think that that will happen.

But I also think that we have to be sure that we're being as transparent as possible, because we're still doing things like waiting on the prototypical tax returns from Donald Trump. We're having these discussions about press pools and whose -- whose press is able to travel on planes. We're having questions about protective press pools. And I think we'll start to see more and more of this as the campaign nears its end.

It's unfortunate, though, that we haven't had those robust discussions and transparent discussions so far.

CUOMO: Why shouldn't it be mandatory? You said it shouldn't be mandatory. Things like whether it's the -- why are the taxes and the health in the same conversation? I get why people say they're apples and oranges. The suggestion of why they're not apples and oranges, it is: it's about what are you buying? What are you getting as a voter?

You know, you can't see this guy's taxes. Why? He gives you 100 reasons why, but at the end of the day, the answer is no. Why should that be an acceptable answer? Why should we have to wait on him to want to put out some, you know, wacky medical letter or for her to, you know, tell us what she wants when she wants? Don't you think the voters deserve to know?

LEWANDOWSKI: Of course they do. But here's the difference, right? Someone's taxes are a snapshot of how much money they've earned in a particular year. It doesn't tell you about their health or their ability to serve four or eight years.

CUOMO: It tells you where money comes from that they receive as income. It tells you who they give to and why.

LEWANDOWSKI: But you know what it doesn't tell you? It doesn't tell you if they're going to be able to complete their term four or eight years as the president. It doesn't tell you about their health.

CUOMO: True.

LEWANDOWSKI: And so the bigger concern is, right, if you're voting for someone at the top of the ticket, you want to make sure that their health allows them to serve in their entirety, their four years.

You -- you know, look, if it were me and I found out that my candidate was running and had a major health issue, you know, two weeks or six weeks, in this case seven weeks before the election, I'd be very concerned about that. And I think the American people would be as they go to cast their ballot.

So look, whatever -- how much money you made or where you made that money from is completely irrelevant if your ability to finish out your term. And then it comes to the fact of who is that running mate? And so I would want to be very, very cautious of potentially voting for someone who wouldn't have the ability to fill out their term. The only way we would know that is they released their full health records. And I think Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton should release their full and entire health records so the American people can decide.

CUOMO: It goes to fitness. Health, nobody's going to disagree, and I think that you have to find out the mechanism to compel more disclosure. I think everybody agrees on that.

But "fitness" is the word I would use, because what if somebody gets into office; and then that's when you find out that they have a compromised business transaction where they say, "You know what? I have to be arm's length here." Or I have to find it out and expose it to somebody like you. And they say well, maybe there's a compromise here.

Don't the American people deserve to know what they're getting into with these two? It seems like there's a lot more they don't know than they do know, especially when it comes to Trump.

LEWANDOWSKI: Well, I think, and Bakari will agree, both of these candidates have been in the public spotlight for 25 years at different levels. Right? And they know a lot about them, both of them. And they have looked very closely now at the Clinton Foundation. They have looked at the e-mail scandals that have still not been fully vetted. Right? We talked about a protected press pool. Hillary Clinton left 9/11 the memorial yesterday with no pool attached. Nobody heard from her for 90 minutes. The press wasn't notified. The pool wasn't notified.

CUOMO: Bakari, what's your problem with the pool comment?

SELLERS: My problem with the pool comment is that this -- we're back at these false equivalencies. Hillary Clinton actually has press on her plane. Donald Trump, for all the -- for all the grief that Hillary Clinton has been given about her transparency, press have more access to Hillary Clinton than they do to Donald Trump.

And the fact of the matter is, you can make this out to be some big issue, but the way that most Americans see this issue is that this woman got diagnosed with pneumonia on Friday, and she pressed through it. She did what most women do when they get sick in this country. They don't just suck their thumb and lay in bed. They get out; they go to work. She did two fund-raisers. She did a sit-down interview with you. She

did a national security conference and she went to a 9/11 memorial. If she didn't show up at that memorial, imagine what the story would have been.

So I think that the narrative that Corey and some others are trying to push just doesn't sit well. And she's actually been more transparent than Donald Trump throughout this whole race. All you have to do is ask the media that follow both.

LEWANDOWSKI: I think we should ask the media. Donald Trump has done 70 interviews with "New York Times." He's done 80 interviews with major media outlets. He's done more Sunday shows than all of the hosts combined, actually, when you look at it. Hillary Clinton hasn't done that. She's been in hiding. It took her...

SELLERS: Well, why won't he put the press on his plane?

LEWANDOWSKI: Took her 272 days to do a press conference. And Donald Trump's private plane is geared in such a manner where there's about 40 seats on it, of which a quarter of those seats are taken by the U.S. Secret Service. He has had a traveling press plane with him for at least three months that I was aware of, prior to my departure.

[07:15:06] SELLERS: Tell Donald Trump to afford a bigger plane.

CUOMO: Listen, there are -- there are...

SELLERS: To afford a bigger plane.

CUOMO: There are issues with transparency on both sides. There's no question about it. That's relevant.

Just as relevant is what they would do if they were president. There's been a lot of talk about why the other one stinks; not so much about what they would actually do.

So when we sat down with Secretary Clinton on Friday before the "deplorable," before the pneumonia, it was about what her experience was on 9/11 and how that has shaped how she sees the biggest threats to you and your safety right now: ISIS, Russia, North Korea. We played for you what's going on with ISIS. You can check it out online. Here's what she had to say about the threat to Russia and how she sees what needs to be done.

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CUOMO: Since the attempted reset, Russia has never been more rogue and openly optional than they are right now. Your opponent has taken the approach of trying to cotton to Putin. He says he's a strong leader. Stronger than the president of the United States.

The reason he says he does this is because where has being confrontational gotten us with Russia? What do you make of his strategy about sweet-talking Putin as a way of opening a channel of communication? CLINTON: Well, I think his ignorance about Russia and Putin are

dangerous. In an interview, he didn't even know that Putin had invaded and occupied Crimea.

So this is just more of his loose talk, his kind of reckless pontificating that really doesn't have any substance to it. I think that, if there are ways to do business with Russia, we should always be open.

That's what the reset accomplished. We got a new nuclear arms reduction deal. That was a big deal, with intrusive inspection, something we'd never gotten to that extent before.

We got more cooperation on refueling and re-equipping our troops in Afghanistan, going even through Russian territory with lethal materials. We were able to do business with Russia.

Now, when Putin came back, he came back, I think, with the view that his highest goal had to be to prevent what he considers to be the -- his neighborhood in eastern central Europe all the way to central Asia from falling under European Union and American influence. And that has been his goal. And he has tried to disrupt and interfere with democratic elections as he has even, in our country, attempted to do with this round of elections. So he's pretty transparent that he's looking for ways of elevating Russia and himself.

I think that we have to continue to find areas of cooperation. We also have to be very clear that there are some things we will not be able to tolerate.

And we do have an obligation to NATO that, if he crosses, you know, it would be the end of America's trust in the world, if we were not to respond.

What I most worry about with Trump is that he is conveying several impressions to people around the world that are quite damaging with respect to Russia and Putin. This romance with Putin, with dictators -- he's praised Saddam Hussein, for example, as well -- sends a message that maybe the United States no longer really stands for human rights, for freedom, for human dignity, stands against aggressive behaviors. That's a terrible message, because that just further encourages leaders who are like Putin, wanting to, you know, do their own version of oppressing their people and reaching out beyond their borders.

Secondly, his very dangerous talk about Muslims, both American Muslims and international Muslims, makes our job against ISIS, makes our job against terrorism much harder. And we already know he's done damage. We already know from experienced intelligence and counterterrorism experts that leaders within ISIS are rooting for his victory.

We're going to have to undo the damage that he's already done in the campaign after this election. And make it very clear. United States stands by our word, we stand by our friends and allies, we're willing to work with anybody, including, of course, Putin. I've had many conversations with Putin. But we're not going to do it by just rolling over and adopting his wish list, which is exactly what Donald Trump has done.

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CUOMO: Quick take on this. What's a little bit different there, Corey, than what she said before is it's not just that you're putting your arm around Putin to open a channel of communication. You are, by proxy, embracing what it is that he is, which send a message around the world that it's OK. And America is, obviously, supposed to be standing in opposition to the kind of things that Putin does. You worried about that risk?

[07:20:11] LEWANDOWSKI: No, you know what I'm worried about, is worried about the fact that, you know, Hillary Clinton is saying that she wants to work with Vladimir Putin. And what Donald Trump has said is, if Vladimir Putin is willing to go and destroy ISIS, the single biggest threat that faces our country today, then we should embrace that. We should work with him on opportunities where we can, to have a singular focus, which is destroying ISIS so that they're not destroying us.

CUOMO: But he's personally talked about the man as being a good leader, superior to the president of the United States.

LEWANDOWSKI: For his own country. And what he has said is that he has been a strong, forceful leader for his people. And he said he has been stronger for his people than what Obama has been for our people.

CUOMO: But don't you see that as obviously embracing what he has done?

LEWANDOWSKI: No.

CUOMO: You say, "for his people." Most would say, "to his people."

SELLERS: People around the world...

LEWANDOWSKI: But, Chris...

CUOMO: Hold on a second, Bakari.

LEWANDOWSKI: No, what I think is, look, when you're the leader of your country, you do everything you can for the best of your country. And I think Vladimir Putin has been unapologetic about being a strong advocate for the people of Russia. And I think what you see in Donald Trump is someone who's saying, "If I'm elected president, we will put Americans first for a change." America first is his philosophy.

CUOMO: Bakari, sorry to cut you off. I just wanted to finish that. What's your thought?

SELLERS: Well, I just think that that highlights the ignorance of Donald Trump and his relationship and love for Putin. No wonder -- I mean, it's no wonder Vladimir Putin has a 82 percent approval rating in Russia. It's because, if you -- if you speak out against Putin, if you speak out against his government, then nine times out of ten, you either end up dead or in prison. That's why his approval rating is so high.

But to go even further, what we have here is our largest geopolitical foe right now is Russia, is Vladimir Putin. And we can't have someone who's outwardly embracing all of his philosophy, outward embracing him over our own president of the United States. And you talk about putting Americans first. But to say that Vladimir Putin somehow is a better leader than Barack Obama is doing anything but putting the interests of America first.

Hillary Clinton has been very substantive, has been very policy- oriented. She has over 110,000 words of policy on her website, compared to 9,000 of Donald Trump. It's not a question of who's more prepared politically to take on and be the next president of the United States. It's just no question.

CUOMO: All right. Gentlemen, let's leave it there. Thank you for the discussion on a range of issues this morning. Appreciate it, as always -- Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: Hi, Chris. We'll have more details on Hillary Clinton's health issues ahead.

And with less than two months until election day, the race between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump is tightening in battleground states. We have the new numbers for you, next.

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[07:26:30] TRUMP: This last week, I took a physical, and I'll be releasing, when the numbers come in. Hopefully, they're going to be good. I think they're going to be good. I feel great.

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CAMEROTA: Donald Trump has been making health an issue in the campaign. He says he will release more of his medical records in the coming days. You just heard him say that.

This comes as we learn that Hillary Clinton is being treated for pneumonia and she's taking a couple of days off the campaign trail. So here to discuss this and more, CNN senior political analyst Ron Brownstein. He is senior editor for "Atlantic."

Ron, great to have you.

RON BROWNSTEIN, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: Good morning.

CAMEROTA: How big of a cause for concern do you think Hillary Clinton's health is and what we saw over the weekend?

BROWNSTEIN: I think the real cause for concern is how little we know about two of the oldest candidates ever to run for president. And in a campaign where we've had more words written and spoken by orders of magnitude than ever before, that we don't have the basic health records, for that matter the tax returns of Donald Trump. It's extraordinary. I mean, just we're talking more than ever and yet, some of the basic information that we've had for previous presidential candidates, which is especially relevant, given the age of these candidates, we don't have.

I think clear this is -- It's hard to imagine this is not going to prompt both of them to release a lot more than we've seen so far.

CUOMO: Well, and arguably, it's hurting her more than it's hurting him. Right? I mean, because she's the ones with the suggestions of what happened in 2012 and, you know, what may have led to her needing to leave the hospital with those glasses on. Now this and the nature of its lack of disclosure by the campaign.

BROWNSTEIN: It's the lack of disclosure. I mean, look, I mean, people get sick. In fact, she has pneumonia, you know, which no reason not to believe her doctor, and she takes a couple days off the campaign trail and then she's healthy. Can't imagine this is a big deal and the context of all the under lying forces shaping this election. But the underlying question of how little we know about the basic health situation of these two candidates. I think this really calls that into relief.

CAMEROTA: Should they have disclosed it before we saw her stumble? The stumble obviously caused a lot of concern for people. What was that? Should they have disclosed it before anybody knew?

BROWNSTEIN: I think so. I think so. I mean, look, I mean, the instinct, you know, of both these campaigns is that they don't disclose unless they're absolutely compelled to. But that would seem to me of something of magnitude that is legitimately of interest to the public.

CUOMO: How do you fix it? Because, you know, how did we get to this point? Right? There have been questions about Clinton's health since she announced her candidacy.

BROWNSTEIN: Yes.

CUOMO: And they tell you what they want to tell you.

Trump sent out that ridiculous letter from that doctor...

BROWNSTEIN: Yes.

CUOMO: ... with the hair that didn't really tell us much other than how Trump seems to feel about his own health. Now he's going to have tests done and release them.

How do you make this a standard, because right now it's completely...

BROWNSTEIN: Right now we have -- that's what I was going to say, what is so extraordinary about this. This is my ninth presidential campaign, you know, and we're moving simultaneously in opposite directions. We're talking and reporting and writing and commenting more than ever; and yet the basic information the candidates feel safer in kind of refusing to us, because they -- each of them in their own way play off the media, are talking to their supporters and can kind of, like, basically say, "I'm being mistreated."

I don't know what the answer is to force them to do it, except for more public pressure, really, from the public and the press to provide the basic information, especially given the age of the candidates. It's very hard to make a case that we don't need this information.

CAMEROTA: Let's move on to battleground...

BROWNSTEIN: Yes.

CAMEROTA: ... polls. They are tightening.

BROWNSTEIN: Yes.

CAMEROTA: Let's look at a few of them. We'll tick through them very quickly. New Hampshire. Clinton now at 39, Trump at -- OK, let's start with Nevada.

BROWNSTEIN: Start with Nevada.

CAMEROTA: Forty-two and 41. OK, that's, obviously, neck and neck.

Now let's try to move on to New Hampshire, if we have it. OK, spoiler alert. It's 39 to 37. We have...

BROWNSTEIN: There it is.

CAMEROTA: There you go. Maybe Arizona.

CUOMO: Johnson is big in New Hampshire.

CAMEROTA: Yes, 15 percent, look at that, in New Hampshire for Johnson. And if we want to move on to Arizona, there Trump is ahead in Arizona at 40 and 38, if we ever move on. There we go.

CUOMO: Johnson, again, heavy at 12.

CAMEROTA: And then Georgia, Trump is ahead...

BROWNSTEIN: Right.

CAMEROTA: ... 44 to 42 percent. What are you seeing in these states?