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Aired September 23, 2016 - 06:30   ET

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CHRIS CUOMO, CNN: -- investigation, they just want to know what they found in that bag. They want the bag.

Amazingly, the video shows several people kicking the pressure cooker. This one never went off.

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN: Well, Yahoo! admitting that hackers stole account information of at least 500 million users. So where does that leave victims of what may be the biggest corporate cyber breach ever? CNN chief business correspondent Christine Romans joins us with more.

What does this mean, Christine?

CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CHIEF BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: I've never seen one this big. It's huge for both Yahoo! and its users. Here's what we know, Alisyn, data from at least 500 million accounts was stolen. The breach happened in late 2014. It was discovered just in August after a known hacker started selling the information from 200 million Yahoo! users on the dark web. Yahoo! says a state-sponsored actor is behind the breach. Interesting, right? It wouldn't say what country or what government it thinks is involved.

The timing is also getting attention from lawmakers because Yahoo! is in the middle of a big merger. Connecticut Senator Richard Blumenthal issuing this statement overnight: "As law enforcement and regulators examine this incident, they should investigate whether Yahoo! may have concealed its knowledge of the breach to artificially bolster its valuation in its pending acquisition by Verizon."

Now Verizon tells us at CNNMoney it learned of this hack just three days ago. Verizon put in the top bid to buy Yahoo! back in late July. Here's what Yahoo! users should do right now: change your password, both on Yahoo! and on other sites with the same password. A lot of people have the same password for different accounts. Change them. Create new security questions. Turn on two factor authentication. That's the system that sends you a text or email to verify your login.

Now no bank account or credit card information is believed, believed to have been stolen. Here's what they got: user names, addresses, telephone numbers, birthdays were compromised. And, you guys, you know all those security questions, you know, what was the name of your childhood pet? They got all that information, too.

CAMEROTA: Scary. ROMANS: It really is. It's a very big breach and it just shows you

your information is out there, it's available for pennies it can be bought by fraudsters and hackers who can use it for nefarious purposes.

CUOMO: Can you ever really be completely safe? A vexing question. Christine Romans, thank you very much.

So the White House is investigating the possible leak of First Lady Michelle Obama's passport. Speaking of hacking. A scan of it apparently posted online after a low-level contractor's email was, once again, hacked. Press Secretary Josh Earnest told reporters he could not confirm the scan's authenticity but said the White House is taking the apparent leak seriously.

The image posted by D.C. Leaks, the group also responsible for releasing Colin Powell's emails last week.

CAMEROTA: All right. Chris, we are about to show some shocking and heartbreaking video. Police in Massachusetts looking to file child endangerment charges, look at this, against a mother who apparently overdosed on heroin in a store with her toddler next to her. Investigators have been looking at this YouTube video. It has been viewed millions of times by people, and it seems to show the woman sprawled out in the aisle of a store as her 2-year-old daughter tugs her hand trying to revive her. You can hear the 2-year-old crying there for her mom.

Paramedics rushed the woman to the hospital, after reviving her with the antidote Narcan, the toddler is now in custody of Child Protective Services. Oh my gosh, what a heartbreaking...

CUOMO: It is. Look, and we know the scope of the problem. We know that nothing is stronger than the pull of a drug for an addict, not even having their child there. A little bit of a question about who was recording that...

CAMEROTA: Don't know.

CUOMO: ... and not going to get the kid right away and trying to comfort the kid.

CAMEROTA: Well, we can try to get that answer. But, you know, I mean, Dr. Drew has told us so many times, this is a problem of chemistry, not character. But, of course, when you see that, it's just so hard not to hate the people involved with hurting their kids like this. But, you know, it's important to remember how everybody is gripped in this problem across the country.

CUOMO: All right, so, we're going to take a break. When we come back, Charlotte Police, as you know, they have not wanted to release the video of the shooting death of Keith Lamont Scott. Now the family, they did show the video, or some of the videos to them, and they came out with a very different take, next.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) CAMEROTA: OK. We've seen three nights of protest in Charlotte, North Carolina. Last night's one was mostly peaceful because of a curfew and the National Guard presence. Among those peacefully marching are two people from the Charlotte Clergy Coalition for Justice, and they are joining us now. Lead minister of the Piedmont Unitarian Universalist Church, Reverend Robin Tanner, and pastor of the Mayfield Memorial Missionary Baptist Church, Reverend Peter Wherry.

Welcome to both of you. Thank you so much for being with us this morning. I see that you're both wearing yellow arm bands. What do those represent?

REV. ROBIN TANNER, PIEDMONT UNITARIAN UNIVERSALIST CHURCH: We are. Well, when we first gathered on Wednesday night, I actually was -- began out on the streets on Tuesday, several of our clergy were with us then. We realized that we needed a way to identify the faith leaders who were out there with us with the protesters. And so we began tying yellow arm bands around all of the faith leaders so we could be identified.

CAMEROTA: Reverend Tanner, I want to stick with you for one second, because I know that you were not in favor of having a curfew imposed on Charlotte, or having the National Guard out there but it seems to have worked last night.

TANNER: Well, I think it depends upon your perspective of that. The curfew was not signed until 9:00 p.m. And we have been out in the streets for quite a time and it was a non-violent movement well up until 9:00 p.m. So, it's not as if the setting of the curfew at 9:00 p.m., many of us didn't even hear about it until 10:00 p.m. or later, had any impact on the crowds gathered. They were already peaceful. They were peacefully assembled, exercising...

CAMEROTA: Yes, that's very good to hear that it was peaceful. But what about the National Guard, did that help?

TANNER: Again, we have organic leadership here in Charlotte. We have organizers in this movement. We have protesters, community leaders of all ages. And we had insisted and asked very strongly that the National Guard not be brought in because we knew those leaders could be trusted. They demonstrated their leadership last night. We stood together. Faith community, community leaders, protesters, organizers of all kinds, and they demonstrated that leadership.

REV. PETER WHERRY, MAYFIELD MEMORIAL BAPTIST CHURCH: In fact, the protests were peaceful each night until postures were taken by local law enforcement that caused intimidation and fear.

CAMEROTA: So, Reverend Wherry, you think that it was, what do you mean? You think that the police were the impetus for the violence that we saw there?

TANNER: What we would say is, I was out there on Wednesday night and when you have a line of police in riot gear approaching a group of citizens who are unarmed, who are peacefully assembled, yet who are lamenting and raging, who feel pain woven in the fabric of our city at that time, and feeling our community aching and expressing that, but expressing it in a non-violent way, when they see police coming towards them, much like bringing the National Guard in, it militarizes our city.

It creates a bodily presence of fear within people who are not armored and who are not armed.

CAMEROTA: Well, understood. Except that it was a civilian, wasn't it, that shot Justin Carr, the 26-year-old there who we've learned has tragically died.

TANNER: So I was there at the Omni when that happened. And Justin was behind me. I had a colleague who was beside him. And I will tell you at that point, it was chaos. People were running. Some were tripping over others. There was smoke in the air. How anyone could conclude already without an investigation, without any kind of ballistics report, without any independent ballistics report that it was a civilian who shot Justin Carr.

Our position, and I was there, is that in the midst of that chaos, we need to be very careful in rushing to conclusions without thorough investigation. In a time like this where things...

CAMEROTA: Yes, but just to be clear, you're saying that you think it's possible that the police fired shots?

TANNER: I'm saying I do not know. I was there. And we had other clergy who were there who were eyewitnesses. And we have all concluded in the midst of that chaos that we would not be able to say definitively what happened. That there needs to be a broader investigation looking at the various angles of video footage. We know that there is some footage from media that were present there, and putting those video clips together, as well as a ballistic report.

WHERRY: To be clear...

CAMEROTA: Go ahead, Reverend. Quickly.

WHERRY: It is important for us to advocate for such an investigation. And to make conclusions before that is done, and in our view exacerbates the tension.

CAMEROTA: OK. Reverend Wherry, Reverend Tanner, thank you very much for your perspective. You are on the front lines there.

TANNER: Thank you.

CAMEROTA: We know that you are also calling for the video to be released. So thank you very much. Nice to talk to you.

TANNER: Thank you.

CUOMO: All right. Some lighter news. Sports dominates the weekends in this season and, guess what, you got another new quarterback and another win for the New England Patriots. Their rookie third string QB stands tall in his first NFL start. Is this team just better in terms of organizing and strategy against the rest of the league? The Bleacher Report will answer that, next.

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CUOMO: Jacoby Brissett, who? He's the guy who was better than the Texans, that's who. He's the third quarterback the New England Patriots have had this season and, guess what, they won, again, dominating the Texans. Coy Wire live in East Lansing, Michigan, home of the Michigan State Spartans -- Coy.

COY WIRE, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Chris, Jacoby Brissett, Jimmy Garappolo, you can knock the dust off your shoulder, Chris, and hop in there for the quarterback of the Patriots, apparently playing that position is a pretty good gig for the Pats. But I've got a pretty good gig too. Here at Michigan State's campus, East Lansing, Michigan, it's going to be the marquee match-up of college football. The eighth ranked Spartans taking on the 11th-ranked Wisconsin Badgers of the Big 10 match-up. These folks know and love their football here.

You know who else knows their football? That darn Bill Belichick, head coach for the Patriots. I've never seen a guy be able to plug in players like he does. He knows how to maximize their strengths. Knows how to use their abilities. You have a quarterback all of a sudden that can run the football, let him run the football and score a touchdown. The special teams stepped up for the Patriots. The defense stepped up for the Patriots. They go out here and pitch a shutout. Brock Osweiler for the Texans running for his life all night. They win 27-0 over Houston. Absolutely astounding.

Now, a big college football game in Atlanta last night. Fifth-ranked Clemson winning at Georgia Tech for the first time in 13 years. Deshaun Watson throws for two touchdowns showing why he's one of the favorites to win the Heisman this year. Clemson 4-0 now has a huge match-up against third-ranked Louisville next week, who have their own Heisman hopeful quarterback in Lamar Jackson. That kid can really play.

Now, some news out of Charlotte this morning, the Panthers announced that their game on Sunday against the Viking will go on as planned at 1:00 p.m. Eastern on Sunday. They have the unrest there, of course, in the city. But there was some talking about them moving that game. That is not the case -- Alisyn?

CAMEROTA: OK, Coy, thanks so much for all of that.

Meanwhile, it is three days from debate night. What will matter more, style or substance? Our panel shares their thoughts, next.

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CUOMO: Three days away from the biggest moment of this election. The first debate between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. The nominees are supposed to be spending the weekend preparing for their first big deal. What will matter more, style or substance? Camerota and Cuomo are split on this one. So let's bring in Errol Lewis, CNN political commentator... (CROSSTALK)

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CUOMO: And the political anchor of Time Warner Cable News. And Mark Preston is executive editor of CNN Politics. We were discussing the segment yesterday, Alisyn was saying, you know, for all this talk about policy and the preparation, often, and she's right, it comes down to the zinger. It comes down to who makes the moments in the debate.

CAMEROTA: I mean, it's a sad testament, but true. I mean, is that right, Errol? Are we right about that, that it's the zinger people remember?

CUOMO: The concept can be right and Alisyn can be wrong.

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ERROL LOUIS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I don't know about the concept to tell you the truth. We all remember the zingers, the memorable moments from past debates. And in fact people go into debates with that on their back, you know, they don't want to get out- pointed or they want to have a zinger that they can throw in there. But the reality is that is just sort of a handy way for us to remember, you know, because the zingers don't matter unless there is some sort of fundamental weight behind them.

There are people who have great zingers and then gone on to lose the election, right? So, the fundamentals really do matter. In this case, I think we have got candidates who are going to really sort of play to very different styles. You can expect Hillary Clinton to just try and put points on the board, put policies out there that are going to appeal to specific constituencies she's trying to reach for. And Donald Trump, I think we know what we're going to get. He is going to create moments. He does that almost instinctively.

CAMEROTA: We have an illustration of those moments. Let's first take a look at some of Donald Trump's most memorable debate moments.

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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Most of the people of this stage I've given to, just so you understand, a lot of money.

First of all, Rand Paul shouldn't even be on this stage.

You get along with nobody.

Excuse me, one second...

JEB BUSH (R), FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: You cannot take...

TRUMP: More energy tonight, I like that.

He referred to my hands if they're small, something else must be small. I guarantee you there's no problem. I guarantee you. All right.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CUOMO: Gets you every time.

CAMEROTA: Wow.

MARK PRESTON, CNN POLITICS EXECUTIVE EDITOR: This is a family show, isn't it?

CUOMO: So, one of our discussions about -- with him, there's a lot of talk about the debate that Hillary Clinton, she has a higher standard. I don't get it and I don't accept it. I feel like if this is -- if there are expectations, it's on Trump. He's going to be standing next to just one other person and this is all about not, can he compete, it's, are you able to do the job as well as the person next to you? I feel like it's all on him to come to prove that night. Not on Clinton. What's your take?

PRESTON: I think I'm with Camerota on this one. The sense that -- well, A, I don't want to be with you, quite frankly, Cuomo. I don't want to be in your corner.

CUOMO: Let's save that for later.

PRESTON: But by and large, I think that he has proven time and time again that the voters don't necessarily care if he's going to be all in on substance. I do think we're going to see someone different though on that stage on Monday night than what we saw during the primary. I think it is going to be very difficult for Donald Trump to do this, but I do think that he is going to be more reserved on stage.

I do think that there is a level of focus that he has instituted over the past five or six weeks based upon the new campaign leadership. Although I would say this, when we are talking about zingers and what have you, and Errol is absolutely right, it's something that we'll remember, but in this day in age right now, and social media and the ability to take something off a television screen and to cut it up and have it go viral is going to be very important I think in the days following the debate.

CAMEROTA: Let's talk about her challenges. We also have a mash-up of her memorable debate moments. Watch this.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Would you release all of them?

HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'll look into it, I don't know the status, but I will certainly look into it.

I'm a little skeptical about your governor actually caring enough about higher education to make any kind of commitment like that.

What really is behind that question, Republicans and Democrats, is whether I can stand up to Wall Street. Well, let's have some facts instead of some rhetoric for a change.

I'm a progressive, but I'm a progressive who likes to get things done.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CAMEROTA: Errol, what do you think her biggest challenge will be?

LEWIS: I think her biggest challenge is going to be to avoid the temptation to answer every single question or opportunity that's put before her. A lot of times what will happen is something will come up, this happens with the emails all the time. Instead of simply dispensing with the question and pivoting and trying to make a point, she'll actually try and answer the question. And when she's explaining it gets longer and it gets longer and starts to sound evasive. And the next thing you know, she is sort of off in the weeds instead of doing what she should be doing, which is trying to make the case that she should be president and why.

So, instead of being non-responsive, which often happens with other candidates, she's a little too responsive at times.

CUOMO: How do you handicap it?

LEWIS: I think they're going to evenly matched. You know, people -- look, if 100 million people watch it, which is one of the estimates I've seen, you know, what, 60, 70 percent have already made up their minds and they're just going to be looking for confirmation. I'm really interested in the people who are looking at this for the first time, who are really tuning in for the first time and sort of wondering, who are these people?

CUOMO: How do you handicap it?

PRESTON: I think that her difficulty is that -- and a lot of people are going to say this is sexist, she comes off sometimes as not very likable and I think Errol is absolutely right. She cannot try to correct him on every falsehood that he may say on that stage because it's going to look like she's on the defensive. And, quite frankly, he has got to make sure...

CUOMO: Isn't that somebody else's job anyway.

PRESTON: Apparently not. Apparently the moderators are not going to do that, or at least that's the direction supposedly we're going in.

CUOMO: What are you going to do all night then if you're not going to check -- we'll have to wait and see.

CAMEROTA: We will. We're looking forward to it. Thanks for the analysis.

CUOMO: All right. There is a lot of news for you on this Friday. Let's get to it.