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Donald Trump's Performance in First Presidential Debate Examined; Effectiveness of Stop and Frisk Policing Debated; Pres. Obama Addresses Veterans at CNN Town Hall. Aired 8-8:30a ET

Aired September 29, 2016 - 08:00   ET

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[08:00:00] ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: His surrogates now being told to use former president Bill Clinton's infidelities against Hillary Clinton.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: So what is Clinton going to do? She did bring out some big name Democrats on the trail to try and get after millennial voters. And, you know what, they're just 40 days left to the election. How are they going to spend this time to get your vote? Just 10 days until the next presidential debate. We have it all covered for you. Let's begin with CNN's Phil Mattingly live for us in Iowa. Council Bluffs, great place.

PHIL MATTINGLY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's exactly right, Chris. Early voting starts here today. And that's a big deal, particularly for Donald Trump coming off what even advisers behind closed doors will acknowledge was a weak debate performance. But those same advisers say they have a clear winning message, the types of attacks that will certainly resonate with their voters. Now if they can just get their candidate to make them.

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DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I don't think she did well in the debate at all. I don't think she did well at all.

MATTINGLY: Despite pundit after pundit calling Donald Trump a debate loser, the candidate himself remains convinced otherwise.

TRUMP: We had the debate the other night. And every single online poll had me winning by sometimes a landslide.

MATTINGLY: Trump citing unscientific online surveys, surveys that allow anyone to vote multiple times. But as Trump remains defiant, his advisers are moving to sharpen his debate skills and attacks on Hillary Clinton before the next face-off, hitting Clinton in releases online and in back-to-back speeches on her connections to Wall Street and corporate interests.

TRUMP: Hillary Clinton is an insider fighting for her donors. I am an outsider fighting for you. We're fighting together.

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MATTINGLY: The Democratic nominee deploying her party's biggest guns to undercut Trump's efforts.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When making life or death, war or peace decisions, a president just can't just pop off or lash out irrationally. No. We need an adult in the White House.

MATTINGLY: All while Trump takes his most explicit shots at Clinton's health yet.

TRUMP: You see all the days off that Hillary takes? Day off. Day off. Day off. All those days off and then she can't even make it to her car. Isn't it tough?

MATTINGLY: Giving his biggest supporters in Iowa exactly what they want -- Trump unscripted and off the cuff. Touting his support among evangelical supporters, Trump jokingly singled out non-Christian conservative supporters in the crowd.

TRUMP: Raise your hand if you are not a Christian conservative. I want to see this, right? There's a couple of people. I think we'll keep them. Should we keep them in the room? Yes. I think so.

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MATTINGLY: Kind of an awkward and at least intended to be joking moment but one that can make people increasingly uneasy. But still guys, good to know, when Donald Trump goes off the cuff, that is exactly what his supporters want. And that's extremely important now and here in Iowa. Early voting starts today. And that's extremely important for the campaigns as they try and bank those votes.

Traditionally Democrats in Iowa have the upper hand. Republicans touting their ground operation, saying they think they can make gains this year. Why does that matter? Because 44 percent of Iowans cast their ballots nearly 2012. This is a key moment for those campaigns. Alisyn?

CAMEROTA: It sure is, phil. And thank you for that. That's why Hillary Clinton is also in Iowa where early voting begins today. This comes after a big push to court millennial voters with the help of the first lady, Bernie Sanders, and Chelsea Clinton. CNN's Chris Frates is in Washington with more. Hi, Chris.

CHRIS FRATES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Alisyn and Chris. Hillary Clinton trying to dip a little into the political fountain of youth, urging millennials to vote for her in November. Clinton has some problems closing the deal among young voters, many of whom passionately supported Bernie Sanders in the primary. At a campaign stop at the University of New Hampshire yesterday, Sanders tried to use his mojo to help his former rival, and Clinton worked to make the election less about her and more about issues that resonate with young voters, things like college affordability and climate change.

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SEN. BERNIE SANDERS, (I) VERMONT: This election is enormously important for the future of our country. It is imperative that we elect Hillary Clinton as our next president.

HILLARY CLINTON, (D) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It's not just my name on the ballot. Every issue you care about.

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FRATES: But she has a lot of work to do. A recent Bloomberg poll shows Clinton leading Trump among young voters by just four points with third party candidate Gary Johnson grabbing 11 percent. Now four years ago, President Obama won young voters by 29 points according to exit polls. Yesterday first lady Michelle Obama told a crowd in Pennsylvania that a vote for a third party candidate was essentially a vote for Donald Trump. And the Clinton camp set to turn up the volume on that message in the coming weeks. Sanders is planning to ramp up his campaigning in this final month, hitting key campaign battlegrounds like Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin as they try to turn out young voters. Chris, Alisyn?

[08:05:13] CUOMO: Chris Frates, a lot of concern about whether Clinton can capture the Obama coalition.

Let's bring in some people for perspective, New York City's councilman and co-chair of Donald Trump's New York campaign, Joseph Borelli, and national spokesman for Moveon.org, Karine Jean-Pierre. She supports Hillary Clinton. Good to have you both.

State of play in the election. I want to play some sound. Lester Holt of NBC asks Hillary Clinton something about race and its play out in our society. Trump responds. Here's the sound back-to-back.

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LESTER HOLT, NBC CORRESPONDENT: Do you believe that police are implicitly biased against black people?

CLINTON: Lester, I think implicit bias is a problem for everyone, not just police. I think, unfortunately, too many of us in our great country jump to conclusions about each other. When it comes to policing since it can have literally fatal consequences, I have said in my first budget we would put money into that budget to help us deal with implicit bias by retraining a lot of our police officers.

TRUMP: Then, in our debate this week, she accuses the entire country, including all of law enforcement, of implicit bias, essentially suggesting that everyone, including our police, are basically racist and prejudiced. By smearing tens of millions of hardworking, decent Americans, she's rendered herself unfit to be president.

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CUOMO: My guess is you two have -- you heard different things there. What did you hear, Careen?

KARINE JEAN-PIERRE, HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTER: Well, look, this is coming from the same person who said I want to make stop and frisk into a national policy which, you know, even during that time during the debate he was told, hey, in 2013 that was deemed unconstitutional and didn't believe it. And so this is the thing about Trump. He doesn't understand at all the community. He really, really does live in the towers of Trump, and it's unbelievable because what stop and frisk did was it actually pulled over, stopped, 4 million New Yorkers. And it actually at its heyday in 2011, close to 700,000 people were stopped and frisked, and nine out of 10 of them were innocent. And he just doesn't understand that.

CUOMO: But this is a larger point that he's making. In New York, a federal judge found it to be unconstitutional as applied. There's the Terry case. Google Terry. Stop and frisk can be constitutional. It is all about how you do it. But she's speaking to something else. This is why I played the sound. White people do not like to hear that they are implicitly biased. They don't want to hear it. Hillary Clinton said that. Donald Trump seizes the initiative and says she's calling all of you biased. She's unfit.

JEAN-PIERRE: Right. But, look, she, I think, did the best -- she really answered the question the way it should have been, because there is an issue, right, what's going on out in this world. We see videos after videos that are showing black men, black women being, while unarmed, being shot and killed because of a traffic violation or whatever it is. So there is an issue there. And people complain about Collin, right, and him standing on his knees, getting on his knees and protesting, doing a silent, nonviolent protesting. Then there's a shooting last week in North Carolina, and no one gets all that crazed about that.

JOSEPH BORELLI, COUNCILMAN, 51ST DISTRICT OF NEW YORK CITY COUNCIL: This is not the first time that Hillary Clinton used this line of attack where she painted a broad stroke for basically all of law enforcement and all the people that might be sympathetic to law enforcement. She said it on the Steve Harvey Show a couple of days as well.

I think you're right. I think broader American society doesn't like to be painted with a broad stroke of being implicitly biased. I know the police officers I know don't want to be painted with implicit bias. As you pointed you, stop and frisk as it was practiced under Mayor Bloomberg was the subject of that lawsuit. Mayor Bloomberg is a Hillary Clinton surrogate, not a Donald Trump surrogate. Bill de Blasio today still uses stop and frisk almost at the same numbers that Rudy Giuliani did in the early 90s.

CUOMO: No, it's less.

JEAN-PIERRE: Not true, not true.

BORELLI: It's 50,000 now. In the height of Rudy Giuliani, about 100,000. But it's nowhere near the level tha tbloomberg used it at 500,000 people a year.

CUOMO: The problem you have with it is this. Trump said it's the reason crime came down in New York City. You will not find a police commissioner who will agree with that.

JEAN-PIERRE: It's not true.

BORELLI: I think you'll find Ray Kelly will agree with that.

CUOMO: Hold on a second. No, we won't. He won't say it was the main reason that it came down. And words matter. Trump said they should do it in Chicago. They do do it in Chicago. Does it concern you --

JEAN-PIERRE: Stop and frisk doesn't work. It doesn't work.

BORELLI: And in January of 2013 it was scaled back. So, listen, you have a combination --

CUOMO: He doesn't know the facts. It sounds like he doesn't know the facts.

[08:10:00] BORELLI: I don't think you're right, Chris. I think you have a combination of stop and frisk and broken windows policing having an effect during Mayor Giuliani's tenure here in New York City. There was something like 250,000 or 300,000 crime victims before Mayor Giuliani took office in 1990. Let's talk about the crime victim rate. That number dropped dramatically by the time his tenure was up and even Mayor Bloomberg's tenure was up. So if you want to talk about -- again, this is going back to --

JEAN-PIERRE: Stop and frisk was a racial profiling. That is what it was. It was deemed unconstitutional after --

CUOMO: Which Trump is in favor of. He said we need to profile more, right?

JEAN-PIERRE: And it didn't work.

BORELLI: The judge in that case was removed.

JEAN-PIERRE: Crime right now in New York City is at its lowest it's been in years.

BORELLI: And stop and frisk is still being used as a tool by the police department.

JEAN-PIERRE: That is not true.

BORELLI: Mayor de Blasio pulled the appeal for the stop and frisk lawsuit --

CUOMO: Hold on, hold on, because I don't want to confuse people at home. Is stop and frisk used in New York City? The answer is yes. Is it used the way it used to be? The answer is no. And de Blasio is a big part of his campaign that he wanted to change it. Bratton then came back with him of New York City fame as police commissioner. He just retired. And he said it depends on how you do it. It has to be more selective to target reasonable basis of having a criminal stop. So they changed it because it was not being done the best way.

BORELLI: It has to be used as the constitution allows it, via Terry v. Ohio. And that's how Mayor Giuliani used it. That's how Mayor de Blasio is essentially using it now. And that's why it's an effective tool for policing. So again, this is something that gets painted, as Hillary said, with a broad stroke where she has this --

JEAN-PIERRE: But can we --

CUOMO: Make your final point and I want to move on to something else.

JEAN-PIERRE: Can we talk about the larger aspect of this? Donald Trump and his outreach to African-Americans and the Latino --

BORELLI: Talking point.

JEAN-PIERRE: Hold on a second. You went off for a while here. Let me have my second here.

So he chooses to do that by wanting to put back stop and frisk on a national level or in Chicago, however he wants to frame it. And also his speeches to the community has been, hey, you know what, you live in a squalor. You guys are going to get shot in the middle of the street. He doesn't understand the facts. He doesn't understand black people. It's just wild what he does. And then his immigration plan is completely insulting. And then he tries -- and then in speeches when he's trying to outreach to the African-Americans, he tries to pin us, pit the Latino community and the African-Americans against each other --

BORELLI: -- taking every African-American vote for granted since the 1960s.

JEAN-PIERRE: African-Americans are sophisticated voters just like white people. Just like anybody else.

BORELLI: Correct.

JEAN-PIERRE: And there is a reason we have supported the Democratic Party.

BORELLI: And there are African-Americans who are small business owners.

JEAN-PIERRE: Don't insult us by saying we've been sticking with the Democratic Party that's done nothing for us. That is absolutely false. That is absolutely false. I take insult to that.

CUOMO: You have point, counterpoint on this.

Last question. I want to ask a proposition.

BORELLI: I'm married.

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CUOMO: I had a suspicion, although in this state it would be OK. I still have a shot.

So if we go forward with this election taking a turn towards Bill Clinton's past and Hillary's involvement in it, it is going to start a devolution in this campaign the likes of which we've never seen, because Donald Trump, as we both know, is no one to get on a high horse and talk about morality with Hillary Clinton. Do you stand against that as one of his surrogates? Will you go down that road?

BORELLI: No, because the issue is not Bill Clinton himself and what he did to these women or what he did not do. It's the treatment that Hillary Clinton gave to the women after they accused Bill Clinton of --

CUOMO: It will take us to the same place. It will be about his sex life, what she did, the women. It's going to be about Trump's women and his divorce and rape allegations.

BORELLI: If the media is OK take some unsubstantiated claim from Ms. Machado and bring her out and giving her carte blanch to talk to the media about something that happened 20 years ago --

CUOMO: It wasn't about Trump having an affair with her. It was about him denigrating to women.

BORELLI: And the media, and exactly what Hillary Clinton did to Gennifer Flowers, to Monica Lewinski, who started an anti-bullying foundation after the way Clinton and her surrogates treated her in the 90s. So if you want to give a platform for Ms. Machado, then, yes, you should give a platform to Gennifer Flowers and the Juanita Broaddricks of the world and the people who have things to say about how Hillary Clinton treated them in the 90s.

JEAN-PIERRE: Chris, let me just say something. Look, if Republicans decide going after Bill Clinton for something that happened --

BORELLI: Hillary.

JEAN-PIERRE: Hold on a second. Going after Bill Clinton after what -- 20 years ago, they're going to lose more women voters. It is -- there is only one candidate throughout who is calling women bimbos.

BORELLI: Hillary, in the '90ss.

JEAN-PIERRE: There's only one candidate out there who is calling women fat. There's only one candidate out there who has insulted and disrespected women over and over again over the last 14 months. Heck, over the last, you know, years of his life, and that is Donald Trump.

BORELLI: "Bimbo" was a word Hillary Clinton used in the 90s.

JEAN-PIERRE: He is explicitly insulting women, calling them pigs, calling them fat.

[08:15:05] CUOMO: Karine, Joe, thank you very much. Appreciate the spirited discussion as always.

Alisyn? CAMEROTA: OK. Chris, we've learned more about the deadly police involved shooting we first told you about yesterday. This one was near San Diego. Authorities say that an officer shot Alfred Alongo after he pulled a vape smoking device from his pocket and pointed it at officers while taking that's shooting stance you see on your screen.

Chris, you and I wondered what it was he had in his hand as everyone did. Now we know the answer. You can see that on your screen as well. Police arrived on the scene after getting calls of a man not acting like himself and walking into traffic.

Officers say the 38-year-old refused commands. Friends of Alongo say he suffered from mental issues.

CUOMO: My legal opinion will be this case is not going to last very long in terms of justifiable violence. You point something that looks like a gun at the officers, you'll get a result. But them knowing what this call was about, how much did they know about it being a mental illness issue? How should they respond to that? Should the protocol be the same?

Those are real issues. We see them repeated with tragic consequences as well.

CAMEROTA: Great point.

CUOMO: All right. President Obama coming face-to-face with veterans and military families at a CNN town hall. Did he convince them that the government is doing enough to help our nation's heroes when they return home? Next.

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CAMEROTA: Military families confronting President Obama at an emotional CNN town hall last night.

[08:20:02] CNN White House correspondent Michelle Kosinski was there.

Hi, Michelle.

MICHELLE KOSINSKI, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Alisyn.

You know, lately, I can't tell you how many times we're at an event with the president and whatever the conversation is supposed to be about, it veers right to politics or the first question out of the gate over and over again is about something Donald Trump said.

But this was completely different. This very specific group of people, they have lived the administration's policies on the military. They've lived through the changes to the military. Their questions were tough and at times extremely emotional.

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KOSINSKI (voice-over): In an intimate, solemn space, members of the military and their families addressed their commander in chief directly.

MAJ. JONATHAN YOST, WEST VIRGINIA AIR NATIONAL GUARD: Are we doing anything now greater to combat Islamic jihadists?

KOSINSKI: Discussing some of the thorniest challenges of our time: Iraq, Syria, terrorism. President Obama asked this by a Gold Star mother.

TINA HOUCHINS, GOLD STAR MOTHER: Why do you still refuse to use the term "Islamic terrorist"?

KOSINSKI: Eliciting one of the most thorough, blunt explanations we've heard.

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: But do I think that, if somebody uses the phrase "Islamic terrorism," that it's a huge deal? No. But I don't want to validate what they do.

I don't want to -- if you had an organization that was going around killing and blowing people up and said, "We're on the vanguard of Christianity," well, I'm not -- as a Christian, I'm not going to let them claim my religion and say you're killing for Christ. I would say that's ridiculous.

KOSINSKI: The president emphasized that worldwide terror attacks haven't increased substantially, though little comfort after the horror of Paris, Belgium, Orlando, Bangladesh, Turkey and the list goes on. But this group has witnessed its own suffering, too. And it quickly became personal, emotional.

DONNA COATES, WIDOW OF U.S. ARMY VETERAN: Mr. President, I stand before my husband's flag, because it was always his desire to meet you.

KOSINSKI: Donna Coates, wife of Army veteran Barry, who lost his battle with cancer after waiting more than a year for a colonoscopy at a V.A. hospital.

COATES: The only true change that's come is we began talking, was that I am now a widow; and my family, we will never be the same.

OBAMA: We now have a situation where about 80 percent of individuals who interact with the V.A. are satisfied that they're getting timely treatment. I want that to be 100 percent. And that requires more work.

KOSINSKI: And Amanda Souza, who lost her Marine veteran husband to post-traumatic stress and suicide.

AMANDA SOUZA, WIDOW OF MARINE VETERAN: This was his livelihood, and he was too scared to go get help, because he did not want to risk being labeled as unstable or weak.

KOSINSKI: There was this surprising question about women in combat from Marine Lauren Serrano, who earned a Bronze Star in Iraq. CAPT. LAUREN SERRANO, U.S. MARINE CORPS: A study by the Marine Corps

revealed that mixed-gender combat units performed notably worse and that women suffered staggeringly higher rates of injury. Just one of those statistics showed that mixed-gender units took up to 159 percent longer to evacuate a casualty than all-male units.

As the wife of a Marine who deploys to combat often, that added time can be the difference between my husband living or dying. Why were these tangible, negative consequences disregarded?

OBAMA: I don't think any of -- any studies are going to be disregarded. I don't want a military, an institution that starts with the premise that women can't do something. If it turns out they can't do something, then we'll deal with that specific situation. But I don't want to start off with that assumption.

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KOSINSKI: Some recent polling of members of the military, not all of these have been scientific but it shows the approval rating for the president is anywhere from 15 percent to 30 percent. The point is, it's very low.

They also support Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton, 2 to 1. And in one recent survey, a big chunk of U.S. troops, one-fifth of them who responded said they didn't even want to vote at all in this election given the choices. They don't feel like either major party represents them.

So, President Obama clearly wanted to change some minds last night. But the point, that venue, he didn't want to get too political -- Chris.

CUOMO: All right. Michelle, thank you very much.

Joining us now is Paul Rieckhoff. He's the founder and CEO of the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, the IAVA.

Brother, good to see you as always. Thank you for your service.

PAUL RIECKHOFF, IAVA FOUNDER AND CEO: Thanks.

CUOMO: I asked you, what do you want to talk about? What mattered about last night? And you said that it happened. Why?

RIECKHOFF: Yes. Well, we asked our members how they feel Washington is doing. And only 20 percent felt like President Obama was listening to Iraq and Afghanistan vets.

[08:25:03] So, this is a conversation long overdue. We should have it every year. We should have it seven years ago. We should have it during the V.A. scandal.

It's good we had it and it was a really smart conversation. The questions from the veterans and military folks were excellent. We got substantive issues. But we should have had this conversation before the V.A. scandal and

maybe the president could have been ahead of it and CNN wouldn't have had to do stories about people dying on the waiting list.

So, it's long overdue, and really now, it positions us to have a conversation with the candidates, like we had on the IAVA forum on NBC a few weeks. Now, this is becoming a regular political conversation and that's a good thing for veterans and a good thing for our political debate.

CUOMO: Now, you often say, listen, are we sick? Yes. Is PTSD a bigger problem? Is suicide a bigger problem? Yes, yes.

But don't treat us like we're all sick. We have real needs when we come back home and everyone says they support the troops but they don't support us when they come back here. How so?

RIECKHOFF: Look, we're not all damaged. We're not all broken. Combat is a typical thing to experience. PTSD and other things are a real problem.

But many of us are doing great things. We're in school. We're in community leaders. We're first responders.

I thought a good first moment for the president and for the country is when he really took on the stigma of mental health. He's really evolved in his language, talking about suicide, talking about how folks can come forward and get help. It's a sign of strength, not weakness. That's a real step forward for the conversation on mental health more broadly, not just veterans.

CUOMO: The brothers and sisters in the military often say, take the deal. Just say PTS. Don't call it a disorder.

RIECKHOFF: Yes, I mean, there's a debate in the medical community about that because technically it still is PTSD in the DSM, but regardless of what we call it, the point is folks need to come out and get help but the government needs that's help ready when they do. That's the real issue here, is that President Obama's record on V.A. issues and veterans unfortunately has been really disappointing. There's been some headway but his legacy in large part --

CUOMO: He said he expanded the budget 85 percent.

RIECKHOFF: Sure. And we had the largest V.A. scandal in American history that caused the secretary to resign in scandal. Budget increases alone are not the problem. There have been good budget increases. He has fought for that. We've made progress on homelessness and joining forces has been a good step forward.

We also had folks on waiting list, we had a disability backlog that he said he was going to get to zero that he didn't. They said they were going to end veterans homelessness, they didn't. There are many promises made that are like the promise to close Guantanamo, right? It sounded great o the campaign trail but just hasn't gotten done. So, the rhetoric is strong. The president does care, but at the end

of the day, we've had a lot of major mistakes and unforced errors that could have been avoided.

CUOMO: So, two other issues I want to touch on. One, the G.I. bill, very important to you. Congress was being sneaky on it. You contacted me and said put your eye on this because they're going to do a sneaky vote in here. They'll not have a roll call for the vote, and they're going to submarine the G.I. bill.

We jumped all over it, as did other people on the media, and they wound up doing the right thing on the G.I. bill. How fragile do you believe --

RIECKHOFF: It's not over yet.

CUOMO: That's why I'm asking you, how fragile is the situation?

RIECKHOFF: It's very fragile. We postponed cuts. Senate is trying to cut $3 billion from the post-9/11 G.I. bill. It sent over a million folks to college. It's a fantastic benefit. And they snuck in this cut.

We've been trying to oppose it. We've asked the candidates to appose it. You asked Donald Trump a tough question. Does he support these cuts or not? Hillary Clinton said she opposes the cuts.

The president hasn't said if he opposes them or not. That's a question we wanted to hear get to last night and he didn't.

It's a really important nuanced issue that folks maybe aren't tracking. It matters to us and our families. And it will impact whether or not they can go to school.

These are the issues we need to pull up and make a national conversation, especially when we're a country at war. You haven't heard a lot about the fact we've got folks in Iraq, in Afghanistan. Just sent a few hundred more yesterday, that's forgotten.

So, we want to make sure we're not forgotten. This conversation is a good step forward but it's only a step. It has to be part of a continuing effort to have a real national discussion on all these issues that have plagued our community for over a decade.

CUOMO: Well, look, as we've always said, you tell us how to help the IAVA, we will because it's in the interest of all Americans.

RIECKHOFF: Thanks, man. You guys have been great about it. We appreciate it very much.

CUOMO: And I need more of those. I keep directing people to the website. Everybody wants to support you guys. I can't keep it on the wrist.

RIECKHOFF: Oscar Mike, IAVA merchandise is there and it helps support the cause. CUOMO: Absolutely. Always a pleasure.

RIECKHOFF: Thanks, man.

CUOMO: Thanks again.

Alisyn?

CAMEROTA: Well, pundits in our CNN poll suggest that Hillary Clinton finished ahead of Trump at Monday night's debate. But there are still two more debates to go. Can Donald Trump bounce back? Is Hillary Clinton overly confident? We discuss.

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