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Hurricane Matthew Hammered Haiti, Eastern Cuba; Pence & Kaine Spar Over Abortion Rights; Philippines President Tells Obama To "Go To Hell." Aired 5:30-6a ET

Aired October 05, 2016 - 05:30   ET

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[05:30:00] ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: Hurricane Matthew is packing winds of more than 125 miles per hour and expected to intensify. The deadly storm slammed Haiti and Cuba leaving parts of those countries, as you can see on your screens, underwater. The hurricane is now bearing down on the Bahamas. It is setting its sights on Florida and the Southeast.

CNN meteorologist Chad Myers join us with the latest forecast track. What are you seeing, Chad?

CHAD MYERS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Well, the latest now is that South Florida under a hurricane warning from Sebastian Inlet all the way down to about just south of Fort Lauderdale. Not quite including Miami but it's really, really close. It does include Lake Okeechobee. Hurricane warning means that hurricane conditions will be felt within 48 hours.

Now, Cuba really took the stuffing out of the storm. I know Cuba just got bashed but the mountains around Cuba or at least the land around Cuba really bashed the storm as well so it's not 145 miles per hour like it was yesterday.

But here's what has changed. The models overnight have tended to get very close to Florida and then turn hard out to the right, not ending up across the Northeast, maybe even making a little loop out here in the Atlantic. But look at this. Look at this closest approach by Friday morning -- this is like Thursday midnight -- tomorrow night. This is a category four, 130 mile per hour storm, very close to the coast of Florida.

What could be worst-case scenario is if this just follows the coast as a category four, half on, half off the coast. So not just one 90-mile or 30-mile wide hurricane damage path. This could be a 200-mile hurricane damage path as it runs up the East Coast and scours the entire southeastern coast. Also, the Carolina coast and North Carolina, as well.

It's a storm to watch, it is a big storm. I know it doesn't look impressive on radar this morning or satellite this morning, but it will gain intensity because it's in very warm water in the Bahamas. If you've ever gone a cruise in the Bahamas, the water's almost always warm.

CAMEROTA: It sounds impressive. I mean, 130 miles per hour to hit South Carolina. That sounds scary. And so your models right now don't show it hitting the Northeast? It's going to spin off to sea after South Carolina.

MYERS: There's only one model that takes it back up toward New York and Newfoundland and that is the Canadian model. So, Newfoundland, you still have to watch out for that -- maybe Bay of Fundy. But for now, the models ram it into -- slam it into the coast of Florida, turn it away, and then actually turn it hard to the right back into the Atlantic, so that's some good news there. Maybe some good news for the Northeast -- New England, New York, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, into New Jersey, but for now Florida is really under the gun.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Right, it's already bad news for people in Haiti, now maybe in Cuba. And as you've been saying, Florida is not exactly looking to be a sponge right now either.

MYERS: Right.

CUOMO: They've had plenty of precipitation. Chad, we'll stay with you. Thank you very much.

MYERS: All right, see you.

CAMEROTA: You know, there was thought, at one point, that if was really bad on Sunday night that the presidential debate might have to be canceled if people were battling 125 mile per hour winds. But it looks like they might have skirted that.

CUOMO: You know, but with all these things you've got to see what happens when it actually makes land.

CAMEROTA: Yes.

CUOMO: You've got see what happens with the course. That's why it's good to have Chad. He'll stay on it for us, that's for sure.

All right, so it may have been the most personal policy argument during last night's V.P. debate. In fact, it was. In fact, it was the most thoughtful discussion we have seen in this election to date. You have to hear the discussion these two men had about their positions on abortion. What it meant to their faith, what it means to policy, and why they believe what they do. You'll hear it and debate it, next.

[05:33:25] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

[05:37:55] Now, if you are thoughtful about your politics there was a real treat for you in last night's debate. These two gentlemen were talking not just about their faith in nominal fashion, but how it specifically applies to their positions on reproductive rights. Senator Tim Kaine and Governor Mike Pence went deeper on why they feel what they do about the law with abortion than we have certainly heard in this election, and maybe for many years.

CNN actually had a group of undecided Virginia voters watching the debate and doing kind of a dial test, so you'll see on your screen a line that goes up when people feel that something's resonating--

CAMEROTA: Yes.

CUOMO: -- with them, men and women separated. Here's a little listen and you'll see what happens with the ratings.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEN. TIM KAINE (D), VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I think it is really, really important that those of us who have deep faith lives don't feel like we could just substitute our own views for everybody else in society, regardless of their views.

GOV. MIKE PENCE (R), VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: My faith informs my life. I try and spend a little time on my knees every day. But it all, for me, begins with cherishing the dignity, the worth, the value of every human life.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CUOMO: You really saw, well-explained, the fundamental difference between two schools of political thought on this issue.

Let's discuss. We have CNN political commentator and talk radio host, John Phillips. He's a Donald Trump supporter. And CNN political commentator and Hillary Clinton supporter, Hilary Rosen.

This is not an issue that is playing at the top of the list as it has, as we were talking before this segment, in cycles past. But what did you think came out of it last night?

JOHN PHILLIPS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR, TALK RADIO HOST, TRUMP SUPPORTER: Well, it's such a departure from what we've seen at the top of the ticket where we have Donald Trump who comes from Manhattan and the world of real estate, the world of casinos in Atlantic City, and we have the Clintons who have more baggage than Southwest Airlines who, essentially -- I mean, the two of them live at the intersection of Sodom and Gomorrah.

And we see these two who are devoutly religious figures talk about abortion, talk about the death penalty in terms of morality, in terms of religion. I think it was certainly a left turn from what we've seen so far in this campaign.

[05:40:05] CAMEROTA: Hilary, what did you think?

HILARY ROSEN, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR, CLINTON SUPPORTER: Well, I thought it was really well done. I agree with Chris about the intensity of it. But what was (audio gap). Tim Kaine does have personal views on this but made it very clear that he and Hillary Clinton are leaving the issue of reproductive choice up to a woman, her family or her doctor.

CAMEROTA: Yes.

ROSEN: That I where a majority of Americans are on this issue. And it is important that people hear that. I think it is something that matters, particularly to Independent voters.

And the other interesting thing was that, you know, you have Mike Pence who has one of the most conservative records in the country on this issue, where he banned Planned Parenthood from Indiana which, of course, hurts poor women. And then seemed to absolutely deny that Donald Trump ever talks about punishment for women who seek abortions.

And so it was sort of wishful thinking, I think, on Mike Pence's part, whereas I thought Tim Kaine did a good job describing how important public policy comes into this issue.

CAMEROTA: We have that moment that we want to play for you where Tim Kaine asks Mike Pence why don't you trust women to make their own decisions on this, so let's listen.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

KAINE: Why don't you trust women, why doesn't Donald Trump trust women to make this choice for themselves? That's what we ought to be doing in public life -- living our lives of faith or motivation with enthusiasm and excitement, convincing each other, dialoguing with each other about important mortal issues of the day.

PENCE: Because there --

KAINE: But on fundamental issues of morality --

PENCE: Because --

KAINE: -- we should let women make their own decision.

PENCE: Because there is -- a society can be judged by how it deals with its most vulnerable -- the aged, the infirmed, this disabled, and the unborn. I believe it with all my heart and I couldn't be more proud to be standing with a pro-life candidate in Donald Trump.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CAMEROTA: There you have it. I mean, to Chris' point, you heard two different philosophies laid out there.

PHILLIPS: Yes. While he maintained his pro-life credentials there it was still not the fire and brimstone that we've seen in the past. Not the fire and brimstone that we certainly saw from some of the candidates in the primary field -- the Mike Huckabee's, the Rick Santorum's of the world.

And something very fundamental happened in this campaign that we haven't seen happen in a very long time on the Republican side of the aisle. Essentially, a secular candidate won the nomination, whereas you saw candidates in the past that would have to run to the right on the social issues and then be stuck with those positions in the general election.

That really didn't happen this time around. They were candidates that were far more socially conservative than Donald Trump. They lost the primary. So while he maintained those credentials it was muted, it wasn't fire and brimstone.

CUOMO: Well, it was interesting, Hilary, because you saw maybe the biggest distinction of the night between the tickets. Kaine and Clinton are pretty much, without exception, lockstep when it comes to social issues.

On the other side, you saw Pence, one, exhibiting a trait that Donald Trump is not known for which is deep thought. This is something that he has lived, he has thought, he has felt, and he has manifested in all of his life. Donald Trump's abortion position, just to point at that right now, is newfound at best, has moved back and forth. He is not where Pence is with Planned Parenthood. So there is an incongruity there --

ROSEN: Well, we don't know that.

CUOMO: -- that I thought was pretty stark. Well, Donald Trump has said that he doesn't think Planned Parenthood is such a big deal, you know. And obviously Mike Pence does think it is a very big deal because he tried to outlaw it in his own state.

ROSEN: Well, first of all, Trump has been all over the map on Planned Parenthood. He's actually said that he doesn't think Planned Parenthood should be able to offer reproductive services to women. But, you know, I think you're right, Chris, on this point which is that Mike Pence has a strong policy record but it is a very conservative record on social issues.

And I think that the more that the Republicans promote their conservative policy record, in essence, it hurts the Pence-Trump ticket, particularly in suburban areas and where there are a lot of swing voters.

And I think -- you know, this has been a debate that has been missing from this presidential contest so far. I do believe that actually if we got to substance on things like climate, on things like reproductive choice and women's health care we would -- we would find a stronger Hillary Clinton campaign ticket, not -- because that's where I think a majority of the country is.

CAMEROTA: Hilary, I want to stick with you for one second because I want to know from your side if you think that Tim Kaine missed an opportunity last night to go after Mike Pence about the LGBT laws that he tried to pass in Indiana that many Democrats feel were discriminatory.

ROSEN: I thought he did a good job going after Donald Trump. And, you know, as we saw last night, Mike Pence is a skilled debater and aggressive in his own defense. I don't think that Donald Trump and Mike Pence are going to get much of the LGBT vote. I think that there are -- so I don't think he was losing much.

[05:45:15] But I do think, again, emphasizing their really kind of traditional hardcore, very conservative credentials does matter. And I think going forward, as Mike Pence now has a higher profile, he's going to have to answer for that. CUOMO: And that's why people knew who Gov. Mike Pence was. He tried to pass laws, unsuccessfully, that were discriminatory. Not that just Democrats thought they were. But it did not come up last night, very interesting.

John Phillips, appreciate it. Hilary Rosen, as well.

PHILLIPS: Thank you.

CUOMO: What do you think about this issue? Tweet us @NewDay or post your comment on facebook.com/NewDay.

CAMEROTA: All right, the Orioles and the Blue Jays putting the wild in the wild card game -- I read this phonetically --with a walk-off win for the ages in Toronto. I'll have all the details for you in the bleacher report, next.

CUOMO: That was tricky. It said a --

[05:46:05] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

[05:50:15] CAMEROTA: Filipino President Rodrigo Duterte threatening to "break up" with the United States, saying President Obama can "go to hell". Duterte is upset over American criticism of his deadly anti-drug campaign. The latest remarks come as the U.S. and the Philippines begin joint military exercises. White House leaders say the administration will not hesitate to raise concerns about the extrajudicial killings, saying it goes against the universal values of human rights.

CUOMO: According to new reports, Yahoo secretly built a software program to scan all of its customer's incoming emails to provide specific information to U.S. intelligence officials. The reports, citing three former employees as sources, say Yahoo scanned hundreds of millions of client mail accounts at the request of the NSA or the FBI. It's not clear what type of information intelligence officials were looking for. Now, in a statement, Yahoo officials said the company has complied with the laws of the U.S.

CAMEROTA: Ben Stiller going public with his prostate cancer diagnosis. The actor says he was diagnosed in 2014 while in his 40s and he credits a blood test, known as the PSA, for saving his life. The American Cancer Society recommends prostate cancer screenings to start age 50 for men, like Stiller, at average risk. Stiller says his tumor was removed and he's been cancer-free since.

CUOMO: Thank God for him and his family.

CAMEROTA: Yes.

CUOMO: Oh, Canada. It's not just for hockey anymore. The Toronto Blue Jays winning a wild one against the Orioles. They will advance in the playoffs. Hines Ward making his bleacher report. NEW DAY, big moment right now with us. Here he is. I'm a big fan, Hines. What have you got for us? HINES WARD, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Well, at this time of the year in Canada fans are usually gearing up for the hockey season but they also love their Blue Jays and they came to play.

Now, a crazy moment in the seventh inning. Orioles outfielder Hyun- soo-Jim was going for a routine catch in left field when a fan throws a beer can close to him. Now, the fan was not ejected from the game because he took off before the security came. They could not find him.

But the play of the game came in the bottom of the 11th inning. Game tied and Edwin Encarnacion jacks a three-run home run, walk-off to win the game. Blue Jays win 5-2. They advance to play the Texas Rangers.

And tonight, the Giants and Mets will face-off in the National League wild card game and winner advances to play the Chicago Cubs.

Now, after one of his worst performances of his career on Monday night, Odell Beckham says he's not having fun playing football anymore, which is crazy. And then, get this, the refs are out to get him. Check it out.

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ODELL BECKHAM, JR., GIANTS WIDE RECEIVER: I've just got to know that, you know, it's all against me. It's going to be that way. I have to assume that I'm always in the wrong, no matter what. And that's just -- that's something that's -- you know, it's a tough pill to swallow but you have to understand it, you have to be able to cope with it, and just keep it moving.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

WARD: Now, I can understand his frustration when things aren't going well but he needs to be held accountable. You can't blame others, you can't make excuses. So my advice to Odell Beckham, just play ball. You're too talented to go out there and give excuses. Back to you guys.

CUOMO: What do you think, Hines -- such a great receiver with the Pittsburgh Steelers, although everybody knows you always wanted to play for the Jets.

WARD: (LAUGHING)

CUOMO: Do you think what you're hearing there is a young man talking? You know, he's still relatively new to the pro game.

HINES: Yes, he's just young and he has to understand that football is not all about Odell Beckham. It's about the New York Giants.

CAMEROTA: Hines, great job. Welcome to NEW DAY. Great to have you here.

WARD: Thank you, any time. CAMEROTA: OK, right on. Well, let's get back to our top story. The V.P. candidates clashed on the economy, national security, taxes, immigration -- basically everything. So which number two finished number one? We'll analyze that next on NEW DAY.

[05:54:10] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

[05:58:25] (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

PENCE: The campaign of Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine has been an avalanche of insults.

KAINE: Donald Trump says women should be punished, Mexicans are rapists.

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: You better hope Trump wins.

KAINE: Governor Pence said, inarguably, Vladimir Putin is a better leader than President Obama.

PENCE: You're -- that is absolutely inaccurate.

HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: He doesn't even know how wrong he is.

PENCE: Because Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama failed, we are back at war.

KAINE: I'd love to hear Gov. Pence tell me what's so enjoyable or comical about nuclear war.

PENCE: Did you work on that one a long time?

KAINE: He is asking everybody to vote for somebody that he cannot defend.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo and Alisyn Camerota.

CAMEROTA: Good morning, everyone, welcome to your new day. It is Wednesday, October 5th, 6:00 in the East.

Did you watch the debate last night? Tim Kaine and Mike Pence on the attack sparring over issues, interruptions, and insults. Kaine repeatedly raising some of Trump's most inflammatory statements with Pence trying, sometimes failing, to defend his running mate.

CUOMO: Pence was very strong in trying to turn attacks on Trump back on to Hillary Clinton, questioning her record -- the missing emails, trustworthiness. So much at stake just four days until the next presidential debate. Thirty-four days until Election Day. We have all the news covered.

Let's begin with CNNs Phil Mattingly, live in Virginia -- Phil. PHIL MATTINGLY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Chris. There was some sense coming into this debate that it would be kind of a calm, state (ph) affair between two veteran politicians. Dull versus duller, some called it. Well, it took less than two minutes to dissuade any voter who tuned in of that notion as both candidates desperately tried to land blows in favor of their running mate.

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KAINE: And you are Donald Trump's -- Trump's apprentice.

PENCE: I must have hit a nerve here.