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Hacked Clinton Emails: What Do They Reveal?; Clayton Kershaw Saves Dodgers' Season; Ivanka Trump Tries to Woo Women Voters in PA. Aired 6:30-7a ET
Aired October 14, 2016 - 06:30 ET
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[06:32:33]CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: All right. Here is the fact about where the WikiLeaks hacks come from. U.S. officials tell CNN there is growing evidence Russia is behind the hacking released by WikiLeaks. They belong to Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman, John Podesta, in the main, and her opponents, especially Trump, for using them against her.
But what they say and how they're used not always the same thing. Here to take us through, CNN political analyst, editor in chief of "The Daily Beast", John Avlon.
John, and you say that you believe we're glossing over the source of this information and it bothers you.
JOHN AVLON, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Well, it's fundamental that we need to confront the fact that Homeland Security and other agencies say that senior officials have hacked this information with an eye towards impacting the election. One of the questions and part of the Russian playbook is not only hacking information, but doctoring some of it.
We can't know, we don't know what, if anything, has been doctored. But this whole conversation and many of the e-mails seem authentic, but may not be entirely be needs to be understood against that backdrop, because that sinister stuff, huge political implications.
CUOMO: They're only doing it to one side. So, Latinos is one of the e-mail back-and-forths that they've seized on, the Trump campaign. Here's his son, Eric, talking about it.
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ERIC TRUMP, SON OF DONALD TRUMP: Now, it's needy Latinos. It is -- you know, they talk about us being the party of bigotry and the party of hate, and it's not until Julian Assange comes along and obviously releases these e-mails.
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CUOMO: So, he's saying look at what they say about Latinos in here. Here's the e-mail he's probably talking about.
AVLON: Yes. So, this is an e-mail from Podesta talking about reaching out to prominent Latino officials like Federico Pena and Bill Richardson, but it has the subject line "Needy Latinos", which, of course, is incredibly dismissive and insulting. The text of the e- mail itself is basically the typical horse trading you do around trying to get endorsements.
But the fact that Eric Trump in that email while citing this and praising Julian Assange and the fact that Trump adviser Roger Stone has been talking about back-channeling with WikiLeaks is one of the things that makes this whole series of e-mails really fascinating and troubling.
CUOMO: You see bigotry in this?
AVLON: I see at the very least callousness and cynicism.
CUOMO: All right. Catholics came up. Donald Trump jumped on this. Here's what he said.
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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The new e-mails also show members of the Clinton team viciously attacking Catholics and Evangelicals. They attack Catholics and Evangelicals viciously.
[06:35:04] Any body of religion, I really think you have to vote for Donald Trump, to be honest.
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CUOMO: Right. So, here's the e-mail.
AVLON: This is what Trump meant to say was, but, I mean -- but these e-mails, Chris, are really rough. You know, these e-mails. But then, again, John Podesta, it should be pointed out, is Catholic.
CUOMO: John Podesta is Catholic. Palmieri is Catholic, OK? You know, and she's on this also, and this wasn't during the campaign. This is when all of them were working in 2011, at the same group together, talking about this dynamic.
But what do you see in the e-mails justifies saying Clinton hates Catholics?
AVLON: Well, nothing justifies Clinton hates Catholics. But again, these emails, again, if authentic, really show a kind of -- a liberal elite dismissiveness towards faith. They're talking about in this case that Rupert Murdoch's kids were raised Catholics and that many of conservative public servants are Catholics and Catholic converts, talking about it's a bastardization of religion, the most socially acceptable political conservative religion. That language is almost stereotypically dismissive of people of faith.
CUOMO: But they are Catholics talking about their own faith. AVLON: Well, at least Podesta and Palmieri. And that's one reason
why it's worth seeing if this is suspect, if this is the kind of doctored language, because it really does confirm some of the most stereotypically attitudes about an elitist perspective on people of faith.
CUOMO: All right. And the third one that I think we should get to is this back and forth between Doug Band who is Bill Clinton's real main man who, you know, works with him on a day-to-day basis and Chelsea Clinton. She had said that I think Doug Band is abusing using my father to help his own corporate interests and then this e-mail pops up.
AVLON: That's right. I should say here that Chelsea Clinton is on board of IC, which is the parent company of "The Daily Beast" where I'm editor in chief. But this exchange is extraordinary. Chelsea Clinton is trying to raise a red flag early on saying, there are at the very least perception problems about collusion between the foundation, shaken up people at State, the presidential office --
CUOMO: Which is that's how the Trump campaign is using this. That it's proof of pay for play. Do you see that?
AVLON: I don't see pay for play. I do see an enormous amount of bad blood and I also see somebody warning. One of the mysteries of this campaign, Chris, has been how political professionals like the Clintons have been clueless about the perception of many of their decisions when they're preparing a run for president.
And at least this e-mail exchange indicates that one person was trying to wave their hands and say, hey, there's a perception problem here at the very least and a lot of bad blood between staff and family which can happen too often in politics.
CUOMO: John Avlon, appreciate it. Thank you very much.
Alisyn?
ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: OK, Chris. There was a frantic scene at the London Zoo after a gorilla breaks out of his enclosure. We'll tell you what happened and how it all turned out, next.
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[06:41:42] CUOMO: The New York City bombing suspect pleading not guilty to attempted murder of police officers. The 28-year-old appeared at his arraignment on video from his hospital bed. He was wounded in that shootout with police after allegedly setting off bombs in New York City and New Jersey just last month. The Manhattan explosion injured 29 people. He faces separate federal charges for the bombings, as well.
CAMEROTA: Potential legal trouble for Chris Christie. A municipal judge issuing a criminal summons against the New Jersey governor for misconduct over those lane closures now known as Bridgegate. This surprised ruling raises the chances that Christie could face a criminal indictment that is now up to a county prosecutor. Christie is appealing that summon.
CUOMO: All right. Here's t latest saga for Samsung's Galaxy Note 7, and that crisis. It could cost them a staggering $5.3 billion after ending sales and halting production. The company had to recall 2.5 million devices last month. Samsung gave up on the Note 7 altogether after replacement phones also started catching fire. It's offering $100 credit if users trade in their Note 7s for other phones.
CAMEROTA: Look at that video right there. That's not supposed to be happening.
All right. There is panic at a London Zoo after a gorilla broke out of his enclosure. When people at the zoo heard about it, they ran inside buildings for safety. Eighteen-year-old Kumbuka was subdued by a tranquillizer dart and returned to his den safely. It is unclear how he got out, Chris.
CUOMO: Do you know what you do when a gorilla is coming at you? What your defense is?
CAMEROTA: Run. Run.
CUOMO: He will catch you. You know what to do?
CAMEROTA: What?
CUOMO: Die. You die if the gorilla gets you.
CAMEROTA: Not play dead. Just die altogether.
CUOMO: There's nothing you can do. You win.
CAMEROTA: Thank you.
CUOMO: What I want to know is how long it took after that dart hit him did he go down, because that's the Harambe question.
All right, bring on the Cubs. Hey.
COY WIRE, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Good morning to you, Cuomo. You get an arm wrestling with that thing, and you dominate it.
CUOMO: That's you, Coy. You've got arms the size of pythons. Mine would rip out right at the sockets.
Tell us what's happening in the sports world, my friend.
WIRE: What a game, what a game last night. It was win go home in Washington. The Dodgers Clayton Kershaw showing why he is considered the best pitcher on the planet.
Let's skip ahead to the bottom of the ninth inning. That's where Dodgers are up 4-3 on the road. Dodgers closer though, Jansen in trouble. He walks Jayson Werth to put the tying run on second. Bring them out, they say. Clayton Kershaw comes in to pitch from the bull pen for the first time in seven years. He's supposed to be resting, guys. He just pitched on Tuesday before the game, there is no way Kershaw would be available to pitch, but he rallies, he digs deep. He gets the last two outs of the game and the first save of his career advancing his team.
The Dodgers win 4-3, and now they have a date with the Chicago Cubs at Wrigley Field on Saturday.
All right. Don't forget tonight over in the American League Championship Series as Toronto and Cleveland at 8:00 Eastern on our sister station TBS.
Thursday night football action. Told you it was going to be a good game, Broncos and Chargers going into this game. The Chargers had blown fourth quarter lead in four of the five times they played this season. So, it's looking like that was going to happen, again.
Broncos get the on-side kick late in the game and they get a shot with a Hail Mary and Chargers fans are like, no, not again. We're not going to lose. You're right.
[06:45:03] They hang on for the win, 21-13. Denver all kind of quarterback trouble, Alisyn.
Peyton Manning is off doing commercials and the Broncos, they don't look so good.
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CAMEROTA: I hear you.
CUOMO: That was a good play on the Nationwide commercials that Peyton does. Nicely done, Coy Wire.
CAMEROTA: Coy, fantastic, as always.
All right. Back to politics, Donald Trump is intensifying attacks against those e-mail accusers. Can he turn this around with female voters before election day? Our panel on that, ahead.
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CUOMO: Ivanka Trump on the stump in the suburbs of Pennsylvania trying to court women voters. But can she turn things around for her father given this flurry of sexual assault claims?
[06:50:00] CNN's chief political correspondent Dana Bash hit the trail to find out. Here's her story.
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DANA BASH, CNN CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Donald Trump gets the raucous crowds, but his daughter's trip on the trail is speaking volumes. Ivanka Trump's whirlwind schedule is targeting the areas likely to determine whether her father becomes president, the suburbs of Philadelphia.
IVANKA TRUMP, DAUGHTER OF DONALD TRUMP: I wouldn't be able to go into the office every day if I didn't have a safe place to bring my child.
BASH: She played it very safe, fielding several of the same softballs that multiple events, like why she thinks her father would make a good president, then darting out, ignoring our attempts to ask questions.
First, in Chester County.
(on camera): Ivanka, what was your reaction when you heard your father's tape?
(voice-over): And again later in Delaware County.
(on camera): Ivanka, can you answer a question?
(voice-over): She preaches to the choir, Pennsylvania women already all in on Donald Trump, despite lewd language caught on tape and the new multiple allegations of groping.
JESSICA CURTIS, PENNSYLVANIA VOTER: I'm voting for Donald Trump.
BASH (on camera): You sound a little reluctant when you say that.
CURTIS: Well, I think it's just been a hard road.
MELISSA BRAITHWAITE, PENNSYLVANIA VOTER: He wasn't saying what he does to women per se. I think he was just bragging.
BASH (voice-over): Team Trump is hoping local media coverage will help with the political reality not reflected inside these suburban Philly events. GOP officials privately tell us that Donald Trump's 2005 comments hurt him big time here, especially among women. A new poll shows Trump trailing Hillary Clinton by a whopping 43 percent among female voters, right here in the Philly suburbs.
DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The suburbs of Philadelphia, because we got to get that vote. We want to get that vote.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Donald Trump is the changed candidate and the right person to get things done.
BASH: A group called "Women for Trump" is feverishly trying to do just that -- even those who are not thrilled with his behavior.
MARLENE FURGIUELE-MENTZER, MEMBER, WOMEN FOR TRUMP: I'm a feminist. And, of course, it bothered me. However the topics that are facing this country are far greater than the words on that tape.
BASH: On the suburban Philadelphia streets, some female Trump supporters say they are motivated by their opposition to Hillary Clinton.
COLLEN GREEN, PENNSYLVANIA VOTER: I think she's a liar. I think she's a fraud. I think she covers up a lot of things.
BASH: But the owner of this yoga studio in Westchester, PA, says her female clients are now more likely to vote Hillary.
SUSAN SLUK, OWNER OF EAT, PRAY, OM: I'm hearing a lot of women that are really starting to dig their heels in and feel empowered about themselves based upon what's happening in the campaign.
BASH: Even some who say she is hardly their first choice.
HANNAH COLLINS, PENNSYLVANIA VOTER: If it were any other Republican candidate, maybe I would, like try to write Bernie in, but it is just not the time for a protest vote.
BASH: Democrats at this Clinton phone bank say Trump is making their jobs easier.
DR. VAL ARKOOSH, COMMISSIONER OF MONTGOMERY COUNTY, PA: A number of people have said to me that what was sort of an I'm going to hold my nose and vote for Secretary Clinton has now turned into steadfast support.
BASH: The question is whether Ivanka or any Trump can turn that around in under four weeks.
Dana Bash, CNN, Malvern, Pennsylvania.
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CAMEROTA: So, the battle for female voters, is it too late for Donald Trump to turn it around with women in light of the allegations of sexual assault.
Let's discuss it with CNN political analyst and "USA Today" columnist Kirsten Powers and CNN political commentator Margaret Hoover, a Republican consultant who was a member of George W. Bush's White House staff and a veteran of two GOP presidential campaigns.
Ladies, it's great to have both of you here.
Donald Trump says that very soon, he will be presenting evidence that proves that these allegations, that these, at least five women, have come forward with are not true. But, thus far, Kirsten, what he has decided to do is go after the women who are coming forward with these allegations and let me play for you a snippet of what he said yesterday about one of them.
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TRUMP: Take a look. You take a look. Look at her. Look at her words. You tell me what you think. I don't think so. I don't think so.
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CAMEROTA: What did that mean to you, Kirsten? Take a look at her, take a look at her words. I don't think so.
KIRSTEN POWERS, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Well, I think I've heard some Trump supporters trying to defend him. But to me it was pretty clear that he was saying, look at her. You know, she is not attractive enough for me to sexually assault, which says a lot of understanding of sexual assault because sexual assault isn't about lust, it's about power, it's about abuse.
But I don't find it all that surprising considering the things that he has said in the past in terms of defending Roger Ailes, for example, for sexually harassing women and saying himself if his daughter was sexually harassed, he would expect her to -- he said this to me in an interview, he said, he would expect to just find another job. His son is now on tape. Donald Jr. in a 2013 interview that BuzzFeed just posted, you know, basically saying women who can't handle sexual harassment should become kindergarten teachers.
[06:55:08] So, there is a really -- there's an underlying belief system here that I think a lot of women are sort of tapping into and I think that Dana Bash's piece was just fascinating. Hearing about women who are saying, I was going to hold my nose. I heard this from other people, too. I was going to hold my nose and now, this is becoming an opportunity for women to basically stand up for themselves and say, you know, I'm going to vote against misogyny.
CAMEROTA: If he does not, Margaret, come forward with some sort of proof these didn't happen. I don't know how you prove a negative. How do you prove you never tried to kiss someone, but then what happens if he doesn't?
MARGARET HOOVER, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, I don't think it matters one way or another if he does or doesn't. What he's trying to do is deflect. He's trying to change the story. This is what he did before the debate by bringing the accusers of Bill Clinton to the front of the debate. He's just trying to take a story that is going negatively against him and spin it around in his favor, which is an effective sort of distraction mechanism.
But the damage is done. I mea, here's what's really troublesome for me as a Republican woman. First of all, it's been wonderful having leading Republican men in the party talk to their families, talk to their wives and stand up against Donald Trump.
CAMEROTA: But too late? I mean, did you feel --
HOOVER: No, against these specific misogynistic and sexual assault charges, that was like the last shoe to drop and caused many, many men to stand up and that is critical because there has been this normalization. I mean, the reason Michelle Obama yesterday said this is not normal is because there has been a normalization of Trump's behavior, as though this is not criminal behavior.
CAMEROTA: As though it's locker room talk. HOOVER: It is not locker room talk. And that's what -- and so, it's disheartening to hear people call this, this is not locker room talk. But what's disheartening for Republicans is that the other shoe -- I mean, this is really having a significant impact on down ballot races.
For Republicans like me who do not think there is any hope for holding the presidency, but hope to goodness that we can hold the Senate and keep some of these really moderate seats in the House of Representatives so that Paul Ryan has a majority. This is having a really consequential effect on these down ballot races that is negative.
CAMEROTA: Kirsten, it's also having a big effect on his poll numbers. Let's look at the latest FOX News poll here. This is likely voters. These are women. Clinton is now 19 points ahead of Trump with women, with suburban women. She is now 24 points ahead of him.
Kirsten, why was this the inflection point? Why after all of this crazy race, over a year and a half of all the inflammatory things, which is it -- the audiotape frankly from "Access Hollywood" of what he said about he wanted to do with women, why was that the tipping point?
POWERS: There's something very powerful about hearing somebody in their own words, for one thing. I think hearing the tape of it and I think it involves sexual assault and it involves, you know, an existential threat against women, I think that you sort of live in fear of being attacked by men. And so, I think for women, I do think when I did hear that woman in the Dana Bash piece say there are so many other issues and I have heard this from the few women, the Trump supporters I have spoken to, saying there are so many other issues.
But this is existential for women. You know, it's a much bigger issue than trade, for example. You know --
CAMEROTA: I want to as you ask you very, very quickly. Hold on. I want to give you the last word, Margaret. We only have ten seconds. What if today he were to get back to the issues, what if he were to look presidential like the man we saw podium in Mexico after meeting with the president? Can he turn it around?
HOOVER: The polling bears out that the bottom is dropping out with women. And if he can't hold the 70 percent -- I mean, John McCain won 89 percent of Republican women, Mitt Romney, 93 percent of Republican women. He was polling at 70 percent of Republican women, the bottom has dropped out, it has only gotten worse since then.
So, I don't know if he can change this with women.
CAMEROTA: Margaret, Kirsten, thank you very much for the conversation.
We're following a lot of news this morning. So, let's get right to it.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: His hands were everywhere.
TRUMP: These events never, ever happened.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That's so abhorrent.
JOSEPH BIDEN, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Textbook definition of sexual assault.
MICHELLE OBAMA, U.S. FIRST LADY: It is cruel and the truth is, it hurts.
TRUMP: These vicious claims are totally and absolutely false. And the Clintons know it.
OBAMA: Be clear, this is not normal.
TRUMP: This is a conspiracy against you, the American people.
HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It is not who wins this election. It's actually bigger than that.
OBAMA: Remember this, when they go low, we go --
AUDIENCE: High!
ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo and Alisyn Camerota.
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CAMEROTA: If you thought this was going to be a quite Friday, this is not it. We have a lot to talk about in this show.
Good morning, everyone. Welcome to your NEW DAY.
Donald Trump angrily denying allegations of unwanted sexual advances calling these allegations pure fiction and outright lies.
CUOMO: Interestingly. The person calling Trump out the most is not Hillary Clinton. It's First Lady Michelle Obama. She delivered a blistering rebuke of Trump for bragging about sexually assaulting women on video.
