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Rudy Giuliani is Very Passionate about Making the Case for Donald Trump; CNN Heroes of the Year. Aired 8:30-9a ET

Aired October 26, 2016 - 08:30   ET


[08:30:00] ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: I think we all agree, the race is far from over.

ANGELA RYE, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: And she's not at a ribbon cutting this morning opening a hotel. (INAUDIBLE)

KAYLEIGH MCENANY, CNN COMMENTATOR: She's reducing her schedule. That's OK.

CAMEROTA: Angela, I want to talk about how Donald Trump is having a problem with African-American voters. And a couple of months ago we heard him making the case to them, what do you have to lose? Basically your situation in your life is so bad, why not try something different, vote for me. Yesterday, he had a little bit of a spin on that same message. Listen to this.


DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: African-Americans are living in hell in out - in our - in the inner cities. I mean they're living - they're living in hell. You walk to the store for a loaf of bread, you get shot. We're going to fix our inner cities.


CAMEROTA: OK, so he was talking about there African-American voters in inner cities. And does he have a point that their lives could be better and he's saying, take a chance with me?

RYE: All of our lives could be better. One of the most fascinating things about this election to me, Alisyn, is that Donald Trump, a real estate mogul, a developer, has talked about inner cities and never once has talked about gentrification. That would have been a good way to segue into a conversation with African-American voters that's actually productive.

I think the other thing that really is shameful, not only to his black outreach team, but to other folks on his team, he said this in Sanford, Florida. We lost a young man by the name of Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Florida.

CAMEROTA: But isn't that the point he's making, that there's too much violence in - RYE: So let's talk about that because normally when he's talking about inner city violence, Alisyn, he's talking about black-on-black crime. I'm talking about a rogue vigilante by the name of George Zimmerman who shot and killed that boy.

CAMEROTA: Angela, Kayleigh, I owe you one.


CAMEROTA: We are out of time, which won't surprise you since you just watched what went on here with Giuliani.

Thank you, ladies, very much.

RYE: Thank you.

CAMEROTA: Let's get over to Chris.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: We're Italians, so we just finished hugging. Rudy had to run. He's going to Dallas. He's got an incredible schedule over the next 13 days.

We've heard a lot. You've heard from former Mayor Giuliani. You've heard the take. Let's get "The Bottom Line" from David Gregory, next.


CUOMO: All right, Rudy Giuliani, no surprise, very passionate, making the case for Trump. And specifically going after what he believes was a mishandled investigation of Hillary Clinton's e-mails. Moments ago we talked. Here's what he said, a little bit.

[08:35:14] (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

RUDY GIULIANI (R), FORMER NEW YORK CITY MAYOR: The FBI made a colossal mistake that is an embarrassment to the FBI. She destroyed 33,000 e- mails. She had somebody with a hammer hammering 13 cell phones. Don't tell me that's not a criminal act, Chris.

CUOMO: It's not a criminal act.

GIULIANI: Or I have to give up my law license. She lied to the F -

CUOMO: It's - it's not - it's not necessarily a criminal act. You know that.

GIULIANI: That she - she didn't know that a "c" on a government document meant confidential, she shouldn't have been secretary of state. She knew what it meant.


CUOMO: And I said look, look, fair criticism. If you want to criticize her political acumen, her ability to understand, that's fine. But he keeps supposing that she was like about things that the FBI never proved that she did. And that makes a difference in the law. Let's get "The Bottom Line" from CNN political commentator David


How did you see it, brother?

DAVID GREGORY, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: First of all, I'm exhausted. Just exhausted. That was - that was like one of those old, you know, Mike Wallace interviews he did, you know, when he used to be smoking and they'd go at each other and, you know, for - that was very interesting to watch, Chris.

Look, I think a couple of points. One is a political matter. The case that Giuliani is making is about Clinton's judgment, about potential criminality, about, you know, destruction of the e-mails, some 30,000 e-mails, which is an accurate attack on her judgment. I don't think this ends after the election. I think a President Clinton faces this in certain quarters in Congress among conservatives and it becomes something that really dogs her for a while. And the American people continue to make a judgment about whether it matters. I don't know that it's going to be persuasive as a political matter among undecided voters who have not already moved over to Trump's side of the column here.

As a legal matter, I think it's striking that a former U.S. attorney is, you know, saying this was a colossal mistake by the FBI, which he may believe. But as a former U.S. attorney, would he be talking about all of this? If he made a decision not to prosecute, would he think it would be appropriate to leak all this information, as the FB has done, to release all the interviews with witnesses, to have an FBI director take the unprecedented step of talking about all the mistakes that he thinks Hillary Clinton made but it wasn't even a close call not to prosecute her? I mean it's outrageous that he says he doesn't want his law license taken away, but he'll defend what the FBI director has done here in terms of releasing all of this information. So I think that part's really striking.

Look, the other thing that they're talking about is the notion that the attorney general would make a decision to indict when the FBI didn't think there was a case and basically end this presidential contest. Does Rudy Giuliani think that would have been appropriate if his guy wouldn't have been the beneficiary of that? I think it's a question.

CAMEROTA: Hey, David, let's talk about the early voting. We have some new numbers to share with the viewers. It is now up to 7.3 million Americans have already voted. That's out of 35 states. And 4.6 million of those are in battleground states. The most of them cast in Florida, which, of course, is very interesting. That's where Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump have both spent a lot of time and that is the all- important state.

So if you dive in to this, here's just one more interesting thing to look at in terms of who is voting. Almost 2 million of them are registered Democrats, 1.5 registered Republicans. What do you see in these numbers? GREGORY: Well, I think there's a couple of things. First of all, I

think it's going to capture the enthusiastic support for both candidates. So I think, you know, you see the registration advantage to the Democrats. Yes, that helps Hillary Clinton, especially because it's capturing moments in the race that correspond to the real unraveling of Donald Trump that goes back to the release of the "Access Hollywood" tape and his poor performance in the debates. So if you look at where the race was at those moments, it was really trending in her direction. I think that helps. That's why you see Hillary Clinton arguing so much to get the vote out in North Carolina, to try to freeze the race where it is before it can move again, if it's going to move, and get voters to her side.

But I think it really captures enthusiastic supporters for both. We see a high percentage of enthusiasm on both sides for their people. And, you know, the issue for Donald Trump is, does he have an ability to finish strong. He's not going to spend more money to do that. He doesn't seem to have a disciplined message down the stretch. Hillary Clinton has a much more robust get out the vote effort. She's got better surrogates. She's got a lot of entertainers around the country. She has the ability, I think, to get out that vote very strongly.

CUOMO: Well, I mean, look, it's obvious that the rigged word and the conspiratorial nature is going to be a big part. That's why I was jumping on Rudy about where it just doesn't match the facts.


CUOMO: How do you see the current play to advantage in the battleground states. Who's up? Who's down?

GREGORY: Look, I mean, I think it's - it's - it's all in Hillary Clinton's favor. I mean I think, you know, she is in a commanding position in these battleground states.

CAMEROTA: But, hold on, David, just to interrupt you, because on the screen we're saying that there's a Republican advantage in Florida. In fact, there's this new poll out this morning that shows that Donald Trump is now ahead of her in Florida. And in terms of early voting, it shows the Republican advantage in Florida, Ohio, and Utah.

GREGORY: I should hope that they have an advantage in Utah, the Republican candidate.

CAMEROTA: OK, so how about Florida and Ohio?

[08:40:01] GREGORY: Yes, I mean, look, I mean, I think Ohio's particularly strong for him in terms of his enthusiastic voters, working class whites. Again, she's got an ability to really close strong especially among those groups that are most for her, that Obama coalition.

CUOMO: D. Gregory, thank you very much. Appreciate "The Bottom Line."

GREGORY: You bet. See ya. CAMEROTA: All right, there is a murder suspect on the run to tell you about. There's been this rampage in Oklahoma, some of it livestreamed. We have the latest on the manhunt.


CAMEROTA: Time now for the five things to know for your NEW DAY.

Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump barnstorming the must-win battleground state of Florida. The Clinton campaign's there today, while Trump spent the last three days crisscrossing the state.

Filipino President Rodrigo Duterte saying he wants U.S. troops out of his country within two years. At a speech in Japan, he said he's tired of being a, quote, "door mat" for the international community. He says he'll pursue an independent foreign policy.

A massive manhunt for a killer intensifying in Oklahoma. Michael Vance taunting authorities in a video on FaceBook Live after allegedly killing his aunt and uncle and wounding four others, including two police officers.

Apple's annual sales falling for the first time since 2001. The slump linked to decreasing sales for the iPhone, tech company's largest source of money.

Cleveland Indians ace Corey Kluber shutting out the Chicago Cubs in his World Series debut. The Indians dominating game one 6-0. The threat of rain pushing up tonight's game to 7:08 p.m.

[08:45:02] For more on the five things to know, you can go to for all of the latest.


CUOMO: All right, so celebrity chef Andrew Zimmerman is known for eating bizarre foods on TV, but that was before he was famous. Did you know that before that he was battling addiction? Find out how he turned his life around in this week's "Tuning Points." Here's the story.


ANDREW ZIMMERMAN: My grandmother taught me how to cook when I was six, seven years old. I'm Andrew Zimmerman, chef, traveler, teacher.

When I came back from summer camp age 13, my mother was in a coma. It was a very painful time in my life. By the time I was in tenth grade, I was a daily drinker, a daily pot smoker, a daily pill taker. Eventually, I graduated college and started cooking at some great restaurants. I was very high functioning, and then it stopped working.

By this time I'm 30. I became homeless for eleven months. And I was a petty criminal. A couple friends put together an intervention and I got a one-way plane ticket to Minnesota, a couple packs of smokes, and 20 bucks. I was OK with coming to a treatment center, the place that friends of mine had gotten well.

Then I took a job as a dish washer. One day one of the line cooks called in sick. So I put up the grill station. The owner said, can you please explain to me why the dish washer just put out food that looks better than when my chef puts food out? Then I remade my career here in the twin cities. So I came up with an idea about a food and culture show and took it to Travel Channel and we're now into our 11th year. Everything I was as an addict and an alcoholic has formed who I am today. There's not a day that goes by that I'm not doing something for someone else. That's my medicine.



[08:50:55] CAMEROTA: This year marks the tenth anniversary of CNN Heroes. For a decade, CNN has brought you the incredible stories of everyday people changing the world. And today our own Anderson Cooper is here to reveal the top ten CNN Heroes of 2016, plus a very special surprise, which we will get to in one second.

ANDERSON COOPER, HOST, "AC 360": That's right. Yes.

CAMEROTA: Great to have you.

COOPER: Good to be here. Nice to see you as well.

CAMEROTA: What does it mean to be a top ten CNN Hero?

COOPER: Well, you know, these are people who have been nominated by our viewers all throughout the year. And we've been, you know, giving - showing profiles of them. But we basically selected the ten people who we think best represent the work they're doing or making an impact in their community. And what - the amazing thing about this is, these really are just everyday people who don't have access to power or money necessarily, but just saw a need in their community and just started to fill that need. (INAUDIBLE).

CAMEROTA: What do they get for being a CNN Hero?

COOPER: They get $10,000. The person who is named the CNN Hero of the Year, and that's all up to our viewers, gets an additional $100,000 to continue their work and also the Annenberg Center meets with all of them and sort of helps them grow their nonprofits.

CUOMO: The awareness alone of being one of the heroes can change the dynamic of -

COOPER: Yes. I mean these - all of these are small organizations which, you know, a few dollars here or there can really make a huge difference. I mean a lot of them are working, you know, in underserved communities in the United States or around the world and it can make a real difference in their lives.


CUOMO: Come on, man -

CAMEROTA: Time now for the big announcement.

CUOMO: Let's - you teased it.

COOPER: All right.

CUOMO: What do you have? You won't tell us. Now you get to -

COOPER: OK. So we have the top ten CNN Heroes. Here they are.


COOPER: In Colombia, Jeison Aristizabal hasn't let cerebral palsy stop him from giving thousands of people with disabilities a brighter future.

Brad Ludden is a former professional kayaker who brings life changing outdoor adventures to young adults with cancer.

Since 2007, San Francisco's Sherri Franklin has rescued nearly 4,000 senior dogs and found them forever homes.


COOPER: Umra Omar travels by boat, road and air bringing free medical care to thousands of people living near the Kenya/Somalia border.

Luma Mufleh is a Jordanian immigrant helping young survivors of war adapt to their new home in the United States through education and soccer.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What are you going to do to better your child's life?

COOPER: In Chicago, Sheldon Smith is breaking the cycle of absentee fathers by helping young dads become positive role models.

Becca Stevens, she's dedicated her life to helping women escape addiction, trafficking and prostitution.

In Los Angeles, Georgie Smith turns makeshift spaces into dream homes for young people who have aged out of the foster care system.

At 86 years old, Harry Swimmer his using his horse farm to give special needs kids a leg up.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Swing wide. Swing wide.

COOPER: And in Richmond, Virginia, cycling coach Craig Dodson mentors the most at-risk youth living in Richmond's public housing.


CUOMO: Wow, so much need, and so many people taking it on. COOPER: It's incredible. And just the variety of stuff that people are

doing and the variety of locations. And you can start voting right away for your favorite. You can vote up to ten times a day per method. You can go to You can go to cnnheroes on Twitter or on FaceBook as well and vote via FaceBook Messenger. The award ceremony is on December 11th. It's live this year. Normally we taped it. It will be live.

CUOMO: What?

COOPER: And my buddy Kelly Ripa is co-hosting it.




CAMEROTA: You're going to be co-hosting with Kelly Ripa.

COOPER: Yes, I'm very excited. Yes.

CAMEROTA: Does it get more fun than that?

COOPER: It does not, actually, no.

CAMEROTA: I don't think it does.

COOPER: The funnest person. Besides you two, she's the funnest (INAUDIBLE).

CAMEROTA: Well, I'm glad you said that.

CUOMO: You don't mean that.

COOPER: I do mean that.

CUOMO: You don't mean what you just said.

CAMEROTA: He does.

CUOMO: You're fun.

CAMEROTA: We're a ton more fun than they are. Come on.

COOPER: You are fun.

CAMEROTA: Come on.

CUOMO: Oh, there's no question that we are, but this will be a great night.

COOPER: Kelly's been great. She's been helping us out -

CUOMO: She has. She's been a friend of it for a while.

COOPER: Yes, she's been helping us out every year and so she just - she agreed to co-host it for our 10th anniversary.

CAMEROTA: That's fantastic. Are we going to like see some sort of dirty repartee like you engage in with Kathy Griffin or different - different (INAUDIBLE)?

[08:55:04] COOPER: No. Kelly and I have a -

CUOMO: Have you seen him on the Kelly show in the morning?


CUOMO: Very risque. A very -

COOPER: Very risque? It's not risque.

CUOMO: A very different Cooper. When he gets behind the wheel of that fake car and they're like pretending to drive down the road -

COOPER: No. No. I - I just - I follow Kelly wherever she goes.

CUOMO: Very racy. Very racy.

CAMEROTA: That's good.

That's great. Well, we can't wait.


CAMEROTA: It's going to be a great night.

COOPER: Yes, it's always an amazing night.

CAMEROTA: I don't know how anybody can choose between these, but -

COOPER: December 11th.


CUOMO: You're a great journalist and you're doing great things.

COOPER: Well, thanks.

CUOMO: Thank you for being with us, my brother.

We want you to vote for your favorite hero. To make your pick, here's what you do. You go to You choose your hero of the year and you don't forget, please, to join us for "CNN Heroes: An All-Star Tribute" live on Sunday, December 11th.

COOPER: With Kelly Ripa.

CUOMO: With Kelly Ripa and Anderson Cooper at 8:00 p.m. Eastern, only on CNN. 8:00 p.m. Anderson, Kelly.

COOPER: Yes, that's right.

CAMEROTA: Kelly, that's it. Thanks so much.

COOPER: Great.

CAMEROTA: All right, "NEWSROOM" with Carol Costello begins after this very short break. We'll see you tomorrow.


CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: And good morning. I'm Carol Costello. Thank you so much for joining me.

[09:00:00] Less than two weeks before Election Day and the two presidential candidates are focused on key battleground states. Hillary Clinton begins her day of campaigning in all-important Florida. It comes as a new poll shows Donald Trump holding a razor- thin lead in a state that he must win.