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HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: America will have a new president. It will either be me or my opponent.

[05:58:13] DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: We are the movement of the future.

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-VT), FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: This campaign is not a personality contest. We're not voting for high school president.

MELANIA TRUMP, WIFE OF DONALD D. TRUMP: We have to find a better way to talk to each other. To disagree with each other, to respect each other.

CLINTON: What kind of change are we going to have?

D. TRUMP: Just remember, the system is rigged.

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We've got work to do. To finish what we started eight years ago.

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ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo and Alisyn Camerota.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning. Welcome to your NEW DAY. It is Friday, November 4, 6 a.m. in the east. And up first, Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton battling for all-important North Carolina. Must-win swing state. Emerging as one of the most critical for both candidates and one that could ultimately decide this race.

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: So top surrogates for Trump and Clinton are fanning out across the country. There are just four days left until election day, and we have it all covered for you.

So let's begin with CNN's Sunlen Serfaty. She is live in Charlotte. Give us the latest there, Sunlen.

SUNLEN SERFATY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning to you, Alisyn.

Well, the battle is so intense here in North Carolina that the candidates are practically running into each other. Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton's campaign planes were parked at the same time, at the same airport last night in a rally in North Carolina.

Now today for Donald Trump, it is onward to New Hampshire, Ohio and Pennsylvania, three states so critical to his path to the White House.

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D. TRUMP: We know Hillary can't be trusted. We've learned that.

SERFATY (voice-over): Donald Trump hitting Hillary Clinton over the FBI's of a long-time aide' e-mails.

D. TRUMP: You look at her e-mail situation. Can we trust her with our security? She is disqualified.

SERFATY: While presenting a defense-focused speech in North Carolina, decorated military veterans joining Trump on stage. Trump pointing at them to illustrate why he thinks Clinton should not be president.

D. TRUMP: To think of her being their boss? I don't think so. And, you know, they're incredible patriots. They would never say a thing. But I know what they're thinking. It's not -- it's not for them, believe me.

SERFATY: And praising their courage while also applauding himself.

D. TRUMP: They're so much more brave than me. I wouldn't have done what they did. I'm brave in other ways. I'm brave -- I'm financially brave. Big deal, right?

SERFATY: And complimenting his wife, Melania.

D. TRUMP: She got up and gave an incredible speech.

SERFATY: In her first solo campaign event since plagiarizing parts of her speech at the Republican convention.

MICHELLE OBAMA, FIRST LADY OF THE UNITED STATES: You work hard for what you want in life.

M. TRUMP: That you work hard for what you want in life.

SERFATY: Melania Trump vowing to take on cyberbullying.

M. TRUMP: Our culture has gotten too mean and too rough, especially to children and teenagers. It is never OK when a 12-year-old girl or boy is marked, bullied or attacked.

It is absolutely unacceptable when it's done with someone with no name, hiding on the Internet.

SERFATY: Critics quick to pounce on the irony of Melania's focus on bullying, giving her husband's Twitter tirades and name-calling.

D. TRUMP: She's a slob. I call her goofy. She's a basket-case.

SERFATY: Despite the criticism, Melania helping to hope her husband win over female voters.

M. TRUMP: We have to find a better way to talk with each other, to disagree with each other, to respect each other.

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SERFATY: And going into the final weekend here on the campaign trail, I want to show you a snapshot of where Donald Trump will be campaigning. Just a flurry of last-minute campaign events, including notably, that he will be returning here to North Carolina twice over the next four days, and he'll have a big closing, last-minute rally Monday night with his running mate in Manchester, New Hampshire -- Chris.

CUOMO: All right, Sunlen. Thank you very much.

We're trying to get deeper inside what the play is in North Carolina for both sides. On Hillary Clinton's side, you're looking at African- Americans, obviously. That's what helped President Obama there with a senator in 2008 and also the youth vote. So she's trying to do this by getting some big-name supporters out there to drive the vote.

CNN senior Washington correspondent Jeff Zeleny is on that for us.

What do you see, Jeff?

JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, guys.

Hillary Clinton had hoped to spend the waning days of the campaign in states like North Carolina, which as you said, voted Democratic in 2008 and Republican four years later.

But this morning, she also finds herself defending Democratic territory, as she still works to regain the confidence and command of the race she had only one week ago.

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ZELENY (voice-over): Four days before election day, Hillary Clinton is bringing the star power. Pharrell Williams and Bernie Sanders joining Clinton in North Carolina.

PHARRELL WILLIAMS, SINGER: I'm here because I believe she's going to fight for us.

ZELENY: Despite the optimistic tone of her rally, Clinton sending an urgent warning to Democrats that she could lose.

CLINTON: America will have a new president. It will either be me or my opponent. Are we going to build a stronger, fairer, better America; or are we going to fear each other? ZELENY: It's not how she hoped to spend the waning days of her

campaign. Her closing argument: now a stark message about the prospect of a Trump presidency.

CLINTON: It's hard for me to imagine that we would have a president who has demeaned women, mocked the disabled, insulted African- Americans and Latinos.

ZELENY: Democrats concede frustration they are still trying to disqualify Trump. His rebound has taken them back to the drawing board.

From Sanders...

SANDERS: We are not going back to a bigoted society.

ZELENY: ... to President Obama in Florida.

B. OBAMA: You don't see him hanging out with working people, unless they're cleaning his room.

ZELENY: A week after the FBI e-mail bombshell, Clinton's top aide, Huma Abedin, remains off the campaign trail. But she did appear at a Washington fundraiser with "Vogue" editor, Anna Wintour. The campaign raising money for a last-minute advertising blitz.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Any response to the FBI?

ZELENY: Clinton still maintaining a national lead. Yet her advisors say the race is too close for comfort in too many swing states.

Heading into the final stretch, Clinton is showing signs of confidence, drawing a parallel to the history-making World Series champion Chicago Cubs.

CLINTON: You know, the last time the Cubs won, women couldn't vote. I think women are making up for that in this election.

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ZELENY: So today Clinton is not focusing on expanding the map. She's actually hits -- hitting Pennsylvania and Michigan. Both states have gone Democratic in the last six presidential races.

This morning, we are getting a closer look at where she's also setting her sights for the final push. In addition to Pittsburgh and Detroit today, she's heading to Cleveland tonight, followed by Florida and Philadelphia tomorrow, New Hampshire and then back to Ohio.

[06:05:11] The final campaign event Monday night back in Philadelphia with President Obama and the entire Clinton family -- Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: OK, Jeff, thanks for all of that.

Let's talk about the big battleground blitz with Matt Viser. He's our national political reporter at "The Boston Globe." Errol Louis is CNN political commentator and political anchor for Time Warner Cable News. And Rebecca Berg is a CNN political analyst and a national political reporter at Real Clear Politics. Guys, great to have you back.

So Matt, let's start within North Carolina and why they're putting so much energy there. We know a few important demographics about North Carolina that we can go through. It has 15 electoral votes, so of course, they all want that. It was the second closest race in both 2008 and 2012. And I think that shows the precipice on which it teeters and why Trump and Clinton both think that they have a real shot there.

MATT VISER, NATIONAL POLITICAL REPORTER, "THE BOSTON GLOBE": It is the epitome of a swing state. You know, I mean, it's very purple. It's one that either candidate sees opportunity in.

But for Trump and his pathway, it's a must win, essentially. It's hard for him to get to 270 electoral votes without North Carolina. So that's why you see Hillary Clinton investing so much time and energy in a state that has some of the demographics of the type of coalition that she's trying to build. College-educated voters, suburban women in some of those key areas of Charlotte and Raleigh that you see her in; Greensboro, where she's spent a lot of her time. African-American vote is also key there, where President Obama is spending a lot of time trying to rev that up.

CUOMO: Although when you look at North Carolina, Errol, is it like a mini America? I mean, when you look at your demos, you've got about 70, 75 percent white; 20, 25 percent black. You've got, like 6 percent Latino. You know, there's spreads on these numbers. Your income rates are about what you see as the spreads and the major states in the country where your population centers are.

Is this a mini America, or is this just luck that this state wound up being so relevant?

ERROL LOUIS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I think it's somewhere between a mini America and what they used to call the new south, right? That you've got a south that, unlike sort of the old confederacy, is not quite as monochrome, not quite as bitterly conservative. Not quite as resentful of various different sort of cultural and economic developments, but is really more fully integrated. We've seen -- we're seeing this happen in Virginia, as well, where people have to, you know, sort of campaign in Asian communities now in Virginia, if they want a realistic chance of success statewide. Where in North Carolina, I mean, this is not the North Carolina of Jesse Helms.

CUOMO: And I was looking online at the census data. They had a 30- percent increase in the Asian population in five years' span, in the beginning of the 2000s. So, you know, that's an emergent picture.

CAMEROTA: Yes, I mean, a lot of northerners, if that's the right word, have moved there. There's that tech triangle or whatever.

CUOMO: Yankees.

CAMEROTA: Yankees is the right word.

So its demographics have changed. But Rebecca, is it going too far to say that, as everybody watches election night, that when you see what the results are of who won North Carolina, that will tell you who won the presidency?

REBECCA BERG, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Well, I will argue it will if Hillary Clinton wins North Carolina, because then, as Matt was suggesting, Donald Trump's path to 270 just sort of disappears. Maybe not if he's able to pick up sort of an unexpected state like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Colorado, but right now, he's losing in those states by a pretty significant margin. And it's unlikely at this stage that he's going to be able to close the gap in those states.

So then, if Hillary Clinton picks up North Carolina, what is his path to 270? It doesn't really exist.

CUOMO: All right. So then we had the bizarro moment of yesterday, which was Melania Trump being on the trail. One, she hasn't been around for a while, especially what happened in Cleveland, where they threw her under the bus with that Michelle Obama speech, and then the campaign lied about it. But she comes out and gives a very good but ironic message, given which campaign she's speaking for. Here's a taste.

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M. TRUMP: Our culture has gotten too mean and too rough, especially to children and teenagers.

We have to find a better way to talk to each other, to disagree with each other, to respect each other. We must find better ways to honor and support the basic goodness of our children, especially in social media.

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CUOMO: Here's something we haven't been able to say much, Errol, in this campaign. What you just heard is absolutely true. There's no question. But except for the caveat in there about especially with young people and teens -- and that is a vicious slice of life online -- she should be talking about her husband. She should be saying this to him.

He has introduced unprecedented negativity in this election, and maybe it was a catalyst for him, but why is she giving this message for the Trump campaign?

LOUIS: I mean, standard campaign strategy would tell you that you bring out the spouse in order to maybe soften some of the edges, maybe do a little bit of outreach, take some of the edge off the candidate.

But the other standard political theory is that you have a surrogate saying some things that the candidate would like to say. And if you try to imagine Donald Trump giving that speech, it shows you that it's really very much at odds with what the rest of his campaign has been about.

[06:10:08] Because he's not just sort of carelessly vicious or, you know, using all of the childish and petty insults that he's used throughout the entire campaign. He's made it really part not only of his brand, but of his message. That we've got to get tough. We can't be so politically correct. You know, "in the old days they'd carry him out on a stretcher." You know, all of this kind of stuff that he's really sort of made part of his message.

And to sort of go off script in that way -- I mean, it's telling. Kellyanne Conway was there at that speech. She's a specialist when it comes to trying to appeal to women voters. I assume that they think that that's what this was going to sort of help them do.

CUOMO: She tried it yesterday in a campaign. Look, I'm not saying it's a bad message. It's a good message to try to get out. It's just it rings hollow. You know, she said, "Look, people are resonating with Trump because, you know, the Clintons aren't going high; they're going low. And Trump is for the little guy."

And I was like, "You were with Cruz, Kellyanne. And you said he said he built his business on the backs of the little guy." You know, what's going on?

LOUIS: Yes. It's an odd message to roll out for the first time in the last 100 hours.

CAMEROTA: But also, Matt, because it then makes journalists have to go back and say, oh, actually, Donald Trump is the definition of a cyberbully in that he lobs insults on Twitter. It's one of his favorite weapons. He's called -- he has called well-known women bimbos and talked about their looks. He's talked about people that he doesn't consider attractive. He's called fine journalists disasters. So this is his weapon of choice.

So, just explain the strategy inside the campaign that they think people wouldn't bring it up -- that up the next day?

VISER: So much of the Trump campaign is about the -- I mean, it's kind of like a wink, you know, from the campaign that they know that this is coming. I mean, they're not -- you know, totally disconnected. You know, so I think that they realize what they're doing.

And, really, you know, it sort of makes you feel a little bit for Melania. I mean, the times where they have brought her out, have been the convention was sort of the last major moment that we heard from her, and that sort of turned out to be a disaster.

And then the latest thing, you know, the bar, you know, of putting her out saying something that is dramatically disconnected from what her husband, the candidate, is saying is kind of -- it seems unfair almost to Melania.

CAMEROTA: Right. So why are they doing that, Rebecca? BERG: Well, it's because of the people they are targeting at this

stage. Donald Trump is losing suburban, college-educated women, many of whom have families, many of whom have children on the Internet, who are subjected to this sort of cyberbullying or at least open to it.

And Republicans have never in the past, you know, few decades lost college-educated white voters. It's just a fact. It's a fact that Donald Trump is.

CAMEROTA: So maybe those voters don't know that Donald Trump has lobbed lots of insults on Twitter.

BERG: Right. I mean, we pay attention to this every single day.

CUOMO: Hold on.

BERG: We follow the news.

CUOMO: You think that there is a slice of any part of the electorate that does not immediately equate Donald Trump and negativity?

BERG: But I do think, though...

CAMEROTA: I think it's possible that they don't know the Twitter war that he's waged. We were focused on it. I don't know.

CUOMO: It's not just Twitter. It comes out of his face like every other time he's on the podium except for the last five days.

CAMEROTA: If she's focusing in on cyberbullying, I'm not sure that every voterassociates him with cyberbullying.

BERG: And, you know, frankly, as many voters -- I've heard many voters express to me personally throughout the campaign. Many voters are making a lesser of two evils assessment right now. And so if these insults that Donald Trump have made are not fresh in their minds, and fresher in their minds are, you know, Clinton's private e- mail server, then that might actually outweigh what Donald Trump has said in the past; and these comments from Melania might actually reassure some people.

CUOMO: Well, look, they're unqualified positive statements that she's making. That's refreshing if nothing else.

But the poll data shows some pretty clear things. One: over 80 percent -- put them up for the audience. Over 80 percent of those asked say they are disgusted by this race. OK? And certainly, this negativity has to play into that, because it has been the full- throated call of this entire election.

Within the GOP, you have over 80 percent say that they are divided. You have an opposite response from Democrats, who say 70 something percent. We are united. So, obviously, people are aware -- final word here, Matt Viser -- that this has been a hate parade.

VISER: Yes, yes, yes. And, you know, it's not going to get better on Wednesday morning when we wake up. I mean, this election has -- you know, some people have said, it's exposed the riffs in dramatic fashion that have existed for a long time. And so healing those is not something that will come easy after the election.

CAMEROTA: But we remain optimistic here...

CUOMO: Always.

CAMEROTA: ... on NEW DAY that we will be able to bring the country together on Wednesday.

CUOMO: Every day is a new day.

CAMEROTA: Every day is a new day.

CUOMO: That's why we named the show that.

CAMEROTA: Thanks, panel.

CUOMO: All right. So, we do know that the U.S. government firmly believes that the Russians are behind the hacking that led to the WikiLeaks dumps on Hillary Clinton. But are they really trying to help Trump or just create chaos? There is a new "Newsweek" piece that takes a deep dive on this question. The author joins us, next.

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[06:19:11] MARK PRESTON, CNN POLITICS EXECUTIVE EDITOR: Two specific states that have been in the news. Florida and North Carolina. We saw candidates in both of those states today, and we're going to see candidates in those states, as well as President Barack Obama.

But let's look at Florida quickly right in here. If we look at Florida right now, a little more than 4.2 million people have actually cast their ballots so far. But who's leading when it comes to party breakdown? Well, Republicans are leading right now by about 16,000 ballots returned. So not a very big lead, but significant for this reason.

If you look at what happened in 2008, Democrats had the lead at that time by 73,000 ballots returned. So, not necessarily good news for Democrats.

Let's look at the demographics, though, of who is returning the ballots right now. And if we go deep into that and into these numbers, as you see right here, the African-American participation is about 12.3 percent. The Hispanic participation about 14.1 percent.

Let's compare that to 2008, the year with the most relevant numbers. First start with the African-American. Look at the drop off right there. A little more than three percent drop-off of participation by black voters right now. So again, not good news for Democrats.

But look at this Hispanic number. Look how much that has increased. It shows you the influence of the Latino vote right now. In just raw votes alone, that's an increase of 336 ballots returned this early. So that is Florida.

Let us jump up now to North Carolina. Here in North Carolina, little more than 2 million people have returned their ballots. But who's leading when it comes down to the returns? Well, Democrats have a fairly big advantage right now. It's a little more than 200,000, 240,000. But if you go back to 2008, it was over 300,000. So, again, not great news for the early vote right now for Democrats in that state.

When we look at the demographics, specifically on race, the African- American vote right there is about 22.7 percent. Alisyn, right now the Hispanic vote about 1.8 percent of participation, though when we go back to 2012, look at that drop off.

You know, a lot of people wonder why Barack Obama is going back to North Carolina today. There's your answer right there. You have about a 5.3 percent less participation in this one. The Hispanic vote has increased slightly -- Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: Mark, you do the math so we don't have to. Thank you very much.

CUOMO: Also, got to remember, Obama lost North Carolina in 2012. So will he be able to do better for Clinton? Big "if."

All right. A new "Newsweek" article says Trump's comments and this exchange from the third presidential debate left some British intelligence officials horrified.

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CLINTON: We have 17, 17 intelligence agencies, civilian and military, who have all concluded that these espionage attacks, these cyberattacks come from the highest levels of the Kremlin, and they are designed to influence our election. I find that deeply disturbing.

CHRIS WALLACE, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: Secretary Clinton...

TRUMP: She has no idea whether it's Russia, China or anybody else. She has no idea.

CLINTON: You take a stand, because I am not quoting myself.

TRUMP: Hillary, you have no idea.

CLINTON: I have 17, 17 intelligence -- do you doubt 17 military and civilian agencies? Well, he'd rather believe...

TRUMP: Our country has no idea. Yes, I doubt it. I doubt it.

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CUOMO: Why was Donald Trump so determined on keeping Russia off the schneid when it came to the hacking?

CAMEROTA: Wow. CUOMO: Let's discuss. The new article from Kurt Eichenwald. We have, "Why the Russians are Backing Trump." Senior "Newsweek" writer, contributing editor of "Vanity Fair," "New York Times" best-selling Kurt Eichenwald. Good to have you with us, Kurt Eichenwald.

So, what do you find in your reporting on this question?

KURT EICHENWALD, SENIOR WRITER, "NEWSWEEK": That our allies in Europe are absolutely horrified. I mean, this -- you know, the intelligence world is not a very emotional group of people. But I've been getting the same story over and over again. That, you know, they know Russia is behind a huge hack, that the hacking is part of a massive campaign designed to cause splits in the alliance between the United States and western Europe.

And, ultimately, that information has been fed from foreign intelligence agencies to the United States. The United States has it. Donald Trump has been briefed on it. Every one of these people is aware of that. And then he gets up, and he says, it's not true. And this is causing immense consternation, immense concern. We no have a situation where our allies, the intelligence services overseas, are investigating a presidential candidate, trying to figure out why he's denying what the intelligence shows.

CAMEROTA: Yes. OK. So what has your reporting shown in terms of we do know that Donald Trump gets those intelligence briefings, as you say, just like Hillary Clinton does. And we know in the media that the intelligence -- the 17 intelligence agencies have said that there is a connection between the hacking and Russia. So, why won't Donald Trump say that publicly?

EICHENWALD: As one British official told me, well, there's lots of conspiracy theories. I mean, there is -- it is known right now -- this is absolutely true -- that the Russians have gathered both video and audiotape of Trump when he was in Russia. They have done the same thing Hillary Clinton when she was there. But...

CAMEROTA: But what does that mean? In other words, there might be something incriminating on that.

EICHENWALD: ... you know, people -- these are the kinds of things -- these are the kinds of things that -- that the intelligence community is looking at. It's like, well, what do they have? Is there something? Why is Donald Trump doing this?

CUOMO: Well, he FBI is looking at it. Right? We've been told that they have multiple pros -- probes, not investigations, and it means something different to the FBI, but they're trying to find connections between Trump and Russia or his people in Russia. And they say they haven't found anything.

CAMEROTA: Right, but this is different. He's saying that there is something incriminating.

EICHENWALD: A completely different thing. That is a criminal investigation into activities that are done by people in the United States.

This is national security. This is not "Can we bring an indictment?" This is, can our country -- you know, can our country, Britain, Germany, whichever, can -- do we have a circumstance where the United States is going to be allied with us. And if we have somebody running for president of the United States who publicly denies the universally agreed intelligence that he has been told and says, "No, Russia are not the bad guys here; it could be some 400-pound man sitting on a bed somewhere." They are truly horrified. And they are launching into a situation where they're viewing the United States as a threat, potential threat to their own national security.

CAMEROTA: Now, Kurt, in general the feeling has been that the reason that Donald Trump doesn't want to do it is because -- well, look, Hillary Clinton has said he's Putin's puppet. But does your reporting suggest that, no, actually, Russia's motivation is more about hurting Clinton, who they have antipathy for, for whatever reason, rather than boosting Trump?

EICHENWALD: Well, it's interesting, because it did start a -- Putin despises Clinton. And it did start out as an attempt to weaken Clinton. And, also, to disrupt. I mean, they disrupted in the Brexit vote in England. They disrupted the German elections. You know, they're just going

country to country.

CAMEROTA: But why do they despise Clinton? What's that about?

EICHENWALD: They despise Clinton, because Putin believes that she interfered in Russian elections when she condemned -- I mean, there was a lot of fraud in the Russian elections in 2011; and she condemned it. And Putin found that very offensive and got very angry.

CUOMO: And she had a very hostile relationship during the failed reset. You've got WikiLeaks. Julian Assange is motivated to go after Clinton. He doesn't like what she's done.

Trump's guy says to me that the reason they're shy on making the Russia connection isn't just because there's not 100 percent proof but because that the optics are that, if Russia is doing it, it's to help Trump. And they don't like that being -- being suggested. That it's an ugly suggestion, so they're trying to avoid it. Do you accept that?

EICHENWALD: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. They don't avoid it, though, by getting up and saying all of the intelligence agencies in the western world are wrong. You know, they're not -- all they're doing is feeding into the narrative that they are, in fact -- I mean, they are encouraging Putin.

And one of the things that's amazing to me, probably the most single amazing fact I came across, was that in August, when Trump was going on his tear, attacking the Khan family, the Gold-Star family where the father had spoken at the Democratic National Convention. Their son had died...

CAMEROTA: Yes.

EICHENWALD: ... you know, fighting in Iraq.

And when Trump started off on that tear, the folks in the Kremlin came to believe that he was going to have to withdraw from the race, because he was showing himself to be psychologically unfit. And at that point, they decided to stop distributing hacking information that they had until they could get a sense of who the next candidate was going to be. Now they were naive. It's still Trump. But...

CAMEROTA: Wow, OK. Kurt Eichenwald, thanks so much for sharing all of your reporting with us.

EICHENWALD: Thanks for having me.

CAMEROTA: All right. It's time for "Your Money, Your Vote." Jobs and the economy consistently polling as the top issue across the country.

Chief business correspondent Christine Romans is in our money center with details on the last jobs report before the election. What are you seeing?

CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CHIEF BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: This is important data for both candidates. It's due at 8:30 a.m. Eastern Time, Alisyn. Here's what we're expecting: 177,000 new positions in October. That is higher than 156,000 in September.

The jobless rate is forecast to tick down to 4.9 percent. You'll recall it was 5 percent in September. Because more people started looking for work. That can actually make it tick up a little bit.

Wages expected to hold steady, up 2.6 percent over the past year.

Now, Democrats, obviously, hoping for a strong reading heading into the final weekend. Hillary Clinton has tied herself to President Obama's economic legacy during his two terms. Eleven million jobs have been created. The unemployment rate cut in half from its high of 10 percent.

But some Americans just aren't feeling those gains, and Donald Trump has capitalized on that frustration. He called the September report anemic. He has called these numbers phony. He says the unemployment rate is actually much, much higher.

And then there is this, you guys. The S&P 500 quietly stringing together eight days of losses in a row. It's now down almost 3 percent over that span. Investors are not worried about jobs, though, you guys. They're worried about the election. They are worried about the election, and that has sort of unraveled a little bit in the market this week -- guys.

CUOMO: All right, Christine. Thank you very much.

Donald Trump. OK, so he loves to warn Crooked Hillary, if she's elected, legal troubles will be coming. But can the same be said about Donald Trump? The answer is yes. We'll tell you why, next.

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