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Donald Trump Wins Presidential Election. Aired 6-6:30a ET

Aired November 09, 2016 - 06:00   ET

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ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: We want to welcome our viewers in the United States and around the world. You are watching NEW DAY. And we have some stunning news for you if you are just waking up.

[05:58:31] Donald Trump will head from Fifth Avenue to Pennsylvania Avenue. He is now president-elect of the United States. President Obama called Donald Trump to congratulate him. The two plan to meet this Thursday. Trump defeating Hillary Clinton. Trump talked about unifying a divided nation last night.

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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT-ELECT OF THE UNITED STATES: I've just received a call from Secretary Clinton. She congratulated us -- it's about us -- on our victory. And I congratulated her and her family on a very, very hard-fought campaign. I mean, she -- she fought very hard.

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CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Hillary Clinton is expected to speak later this morning. As you heard, she did call Donald Trump to concede. Trump right now, 289 electoral votes. We still have three states just too close to call.

Republicans are going to keep control of the Senate and the House of Representatives.

The markets, very different reaction. Volatility is the enemy of the market. This was expected to happen if Trump won but not to this degree. However, we're following the futures, and they went very deep. They're turning around.

CAMEROTA: We have the best political team in the business covering it all for you, so let's begin with John Berman, who's going to break down all of the numbers -- John.

JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: All right, Alisyn. (AUDIO GAP)

CUOMO: All right.

CAMEROTA: Yes.

CUOMO: J.B. BERMAN: ... at least. He has won at least 289.

CAMEROTA: Hold on a second.

CUOMO: J.B., they're going to fix your -- fix your Mike, and we'll get him right back. You're looking at the map there. We're going to explain it.

Do we have John's Mike?

CAMEROTA: There's a lot of red on that map, as you can see. States that people were -- the blue wall that Hillary Clinton was expected to carry there up along the northern tier did not happen. You can see the yellow. Those are the states that are still too close for us to call.

CUOMO: Well, and that's the Rust Belt also. Minnesota, you know, we haven't seen since Mondale. You know, Mondale, all he won was Minnesota. Now, it's too close to call. Maybe Trump got it. Michigan -- let's get back to John Berman right now. Take us through those different colors and their significance.

BERMAN: All right, as you said, 289 electoral votes. That's for Donald Trump right now. The key -- I should say we still have three states yet to call. Let's take a look right now. Donald Trump ahead by 15,000 votes in Michigan. In Minnesota, I think Hillary Clinton is ever so slightly ahead, 41,000 votes there. And in New Hampshire, this one has been razor-thin. Donald Trump with a 307-vote lead. Wow.

All right. The headline, though, as you said, the so-called blue wall crumbling. Donald Trump winning states including Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. No Republican has won Pennsylvania since 1988. No Republican has won Wisconsin since 1984. Hillary Clinton didn't even go to Wisconsin after the convention. She thought she had it in the bag.

Now one other big surprise in this sort of sea of surprises overnight. Donald Trump had coattails in Congress. Republicans will keep control of the Senate. You can see here, they have at least 51 seats in the Senate. They don't need Mike Pence to break any tie. They have a clear majority.

And in the House of Representatives, once again, the Republicans do have the majority there, as well, at least 235 seats. Wow, this has changed. Democrats pick up at least six seats. That number has actually gone down. Now, you can look at this and say Democrats picked up six seats. That's good for them. They hoped as of a few weeks ago they would get much, much more. That did not happen. Donald Trump swept Republicans into office, including some, Alisyn, that didn't support him -- guys.

CAMEROTA: Thanks so much for all of that, John.

CUOMO: All right. So Trump as president-elect addressed the nation for the first time, and I'll tell you, he said things that we've never heard him say before. It was just after 3 in the morning, but the moment may have changed the man, at least for a moment. He congratulated Hillary Clinton. He was conciliatory. He said she fought hard. He said the time for disunity or division is over. It's time to come together.

Here's a sample.

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TRUMP: I've just received a call from Secretary Clinton. She congratulated us -- it's about us -- on our victory. And I congratulated her and her family on a very, very hard-fought campaign. I mean, she -- she fought very hard. Hillary has worked very long and very hard over a long period of time, and we owe her a major debt of gratitude for her service to our country. I mean that very sincerely. Now it's time for America to bind the wounds of division. Have to get together.

To all Republicans and Democrats and independents across this nation, I say it is time for us to come together as one united people. It's time. I pledge to every citizen of our land that I will be president for all Americans, and this is so important to me.

For those of who have chosen not to support me in the past, of which there were a few people, I'm reaching out to you for your guidance and your help so that we can work together and unify our great country.

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CAMEROTA: OK. CNN's Sara Murray is live at Trump Tower in New York with what's next for the president-elect. What's the scene there, Sara?

SARA MURRAY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, good morning.

Look, Donald Trump promised a political revolution, and in the wee hours of this morning, he certainly delivered on it. Now, it's early, so there's not a ton of activity. We saw Donald Trump's aides in a very celebratory mood last night.

And part of the reason we know so little of what's going to happen next, in addition to the fact that obviously, the public polls showed Donald Trump trailing, is that Trump, himself, did not want to plan beyond election day. He wanted to focus on the task at hand, focus on winning this election before he delved into the details of what it would be like to transition to power, what it would be like to plan his administration.

Now, we do know that the full transition plans were delivered to Trump Tower yesterday evening. So, we're expecting that they're going to begin looking at those, basically first thing today.

And we're also expecting later today that later this week, we're going to see some kind of meeting between Donald Trump and President Barack Obama. Obviously, they've exchanged a lot of harsh words on the campaign trail, but you know, there has always been a peaceful transition of power. We have a history of that. And, so, we are sort of expecting to see the two of them work together in these coming months as Donald Trump goes through his transition and prepares for his inauguration, Alisyn.

CUOMO: All right, Sara, appreciate it.

So in just a few hours, there's another big piece of moving forward that is required, and that is Hillary Clinton's concession speech. She did concede on the phone to Donald Trump in the early morning hours, but we are expected to actually hear from her in person later this morning.

CNN's Jeff Zeleny joins us with more -- Jeff.

JEFF ZELENY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Chris.

Hillary Clinton is scheduled, as you said, to give her formal concession speech later this morning after that brief overnight phone call to Donald Trump.

Now, thousands of her supporters were shell-shocked early this morning as they left the Javits Center here in Manhattan, what her campaign planned to be a victory party last night that turned into anything but.

Now, she decided against giving a concession speech last night as the votes came in, hoping her blue wall across Wisconsin and Michigan and Pennsylvania would save her candidacy. When that didn't happen, it was after 2 a.m. in the morning, and aides said she wanted to give a more thoughtful speech.

So her campaign chairman, John Podesta, came out to address supporters, saying she would wait until all the votes were counted. But it quickly became clear that wasn't enough. So she conceded in that brief phone call to Donald Trump.

Her campaign simply did not see this coming. This is a repudiation of her and her biggest partner on the campaign trail, President Obama. But I am told her speech later this morning will be focused on trying to heal this country. Her advisers said it was not a time for finger- pointing, but you can bet that's exactly what will happen inside the Democratic Party going forward.

CAMEROTA: Oh, my gosh. Just so much soul searching this morning by so many people. Let's break down this historic moment with our panel. We have David Gregory, Jackie Kucinich, John Avlon and John Berman.

David, for people who are just waking up this morning...

DAVID GREGORY, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Yes.

CAMEROTA: ... who may have gone to sleep last night before all of this broke, what happened? How did we get here?

GREGORY: Surprise, surprise, surprise. I mean, this was a political earthquake. And I think, as we've said before, Donald Trump did last night and on election night something he's done throughout this political process. He confounded and stunned everyone.

He had an understanding of the voters that the political class, Republican and Democrat, the media and the establishment did not have. And connected along class lines to really give voice to those who felt left out from the economy and from our political system. He said it in his acceptance speech. For those who have been forgotten, you will be forgotten no more. And now, he faces a big test. He's now got to deliver.

Talking about Hillary Clinton going to speak? He said his opponent should be put in jail, that he'd go after her, that he may not accept the election results. He didn't abide by the rule of law when Jim Comey said that there was nothing to investigate finally about the e- mail server. There's a lot of fear among the opposition to Trump that now he's going to have to deal with.

CUOMO: Well, look, last night, full disclosure. David and I spent a large part of the evening together, watching these returns. And we kept looking at the map and saying, doesn't she have to win something at some point? Doesn't something have to go her way?

And so many of the races were still so close that at this moment CNN still hasn't called three different races. We'll put them up on the screen. And we'll tell you why. You have Michigan, Minnesota and New Hampshire. In Michigan, it's a 0.3 differential right now. In Minnesota, it's a one-point differential. In New Hampshire, it's a point one differential. They are so close that, again, we're not going to call them until we get more certitude. John Berman, does it matter if all three of them were to break for Hillary Clinton? Does the race change?

BERMAN: No. I mean, Donald Trump still has 289 electoral votes. That's enough to win. If they all break Trump's way, it gives him more than 300 electoral votes, and then you star to say, well, this looks a little bit like a mandate. This looks a little bit like the size of victory that...

CUOMO: Even though the popular vote may be split?

BERMAN: Well, that's a very good point, because the popular vote may go toward Hillary Clinton right now. But in this country we go by the Electoral College, and the Electoral College, you know, similarities between his win and Barack Obama's win, especially in 2012 will be great.

CAMEROTA: John, last night Hillary Clinton did not come to the podium. John Podesta came. She is still processing, obviously, what happened, and who could blame her? So many people are still processing and trying to figure out. So many Democrats are despondent this morning. The pundits and the pollsters did not prepare them for this. What went so wrong?

[06:10:09] JOHN AVLON, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Well, I mean, that's the forensic that's going to need to be done. Because it wasn't just the Clinton campaign's modeling. The Republican Party wasn't so confident going into this. And, clearly, assumptions were made that fell away. We always say the only poll that counts is on election day and we always saying it is a cliche, it's a cliche because it's true.

Yesterday was the day that proved that point. The fact that right now it's a jump ball in Minnesota. Minnesota was never supposed to be in play, using any historical standards.

CUOMO: Even Mondale won it.

AVLON: Well, yes, because he's from Minnesota. You know, Wisconsin hadn't been won by a Republican since Reagan in '84. So, you have this fundamental shift in the map. And then there's a question about the modeling. You know, the fact the Hispanic vote seems to be around where around Mitt Romney was four years ago, despite Donald Trump's policies.

CAMEROTA: It did not go up. Just to be clear on that. The Hispanic vote that Hillary Clinton was hinging much of what would be her success, she thought, it did not rise from four years ago.

BERMAN: Nonwhite vote in the United States did go up. More nonwhites voted including Hispanics. The problem is, Hillary Clinton didn't win more.

CUOMO: Right, right.

CAMEROTA: Some of them voted for Donald Trump.

CUOMO: It's not the size of the pie. It's the size of the slices.

CAMEROTA: A larger chunk of that demo for Donald Trump than anybody expected.

CUOMO: You go ahead.

JACKIE KUCINICH, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I was just going to say one of the things that struck me about last night to John -- to your point that no one prepared people for this.

I was at the Hillary rally last night, and long -- long after you think people would have left. And Romney in 2012, everyone was kind of gone, and it was just sort of sad and imbibed.

Last night, it was just -- people were huddled around televisions, and still in that arena, until the very end, waiting for some sign that this not happening. It was that unexpected.

CUOMO: Part of his channel now. David used the word first, I believe, "fear." People are afraid on the Democratic side. I'm not making a joke. I referenced a Bronx tale, to say is it better to be loved or be feared in politics as on the streets of the Bronx? It's probably better to be feared. It's going to motivate action by the Democrats, but it also motivates a challenge for Donald Trump.

How does he go from where he was in this entire campaign to where he was at 3 a.m. this morning where he says, "No more division. I'm here for everybody." That message did not get him to the White House.

GREGORY: Right.

CUOMO: How does he deliver for the people who put him there, who want to drain the swamp and see angry action taken against Muslims and others...

GREGORY: Right.

CUOMO: ... with this idea of working with Democrats and being one people?

GREGORY: And by the way, you know, politics is nasty; it ain't beanbag. That's different than talking about building a wall, banning Muslims, talking the way he talked about women in this campaign. So there is real fear and loathing that cannot be bridged with him saying, "I really want to be the president of everybody."

CUOMO: His followers this morning are not saying, "Yay, we can't wait to work together." They're saying, "You're on the list."

GREGORY: And they have very high expectations for what he's supposed to be able to do. Now, one of the things that was interesting was the note he sounded when he accepted. What's one of the first things he talked about? A big surge in the infrastructure spending, which a lot of Democrats agree with. Is that a sign of how he'll prioritize? We don't yet know.

AVLON: And that's something, whether -- whoever was president, that was one area where there might be bipartisan cooperation. President Obama proposed it, a public, private and structure bank, and the Republicans opposed it. But maybe there is a chance.

He is going to need to show that the talk of national unity is more than just talk because of the way he campaigned. But there's also a responsibility on the Democratic side of the aisle. There's a lot of talk about how our country is strong, how we're resilient. We are. Our democracy is strong. Our country is resilient, and we're going to need to show that.

It's going to be difficult to heal the wounds of this campaign because of the rhetoric, because of the divisiveness of a lot of the policies that were put forward. He's going to need to lead, but other folks need to take responsibility for trying to help heal and reinforce our civic institutions.

BERMAN: That will be a challenge for Democrats...

AVLON: Absolutely.

BERMAN: ... because in the morning they may discuss infrastructure spending but in the afternoon it's going to be repealing Obama care. In the afternoon, it's going to be putting a Supreme Court justice in there that's not Merrick Garland, who's been sitting around, waiting to be confirmed or even have hearings for eight months.

AVLON: It's going to be a possibly, how do you deport 11 million undocumented immigrants? CAMEROTA: He backed off from that.

AVLON: Well, maybe yes, maybe no.

KUCINICH: But I still think he's going to be held to account for it.

GREGORY: He will. And look, we all have a job to do to hold every presidential account, including this new president-elect. What's the relationship going to be like with President Putin?

CUOMO: Putin congratulated him. He said he's excited about this.

GREGORY: I'm sure Putin is.

AVLON: Everything has been going Putin's way since Brexit. If you believe in a weaker NATO, if you believe in sort of a reaction against globalization, and these are the larger frame of our global debate isn't just domestic. Of course, there are challenges to democracy. Liberal capitalist democracy.

GREGORY: And globalization.

AVLON: And globalization.

[06:15:04] GREGORY: And we knew all along in a radical change year, he was radical change. She was the ultimate insider. Few believed that would actually prevail. Outcome is pretty much as simple as that.

CAMEROTA: It prevailed. Panel, thank you very much.

Coming up on NEW DAY, we want to let you know that Trump's campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, is going to join us live with her reaction and the campaign's reaction. She'll be in the 8 a.m. hour. Stay tuned for that.

CUOMO: So there's so much going on. There's so many numbers and different points of analysis. Can we simplify it a little bit and look at, "Well, here is where it was. Here's where we are as a people now, and here's how we got here"? I say, yes. We're going to break down how we got here, next.

CAMEROTA: We'll give it a shot.

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CUOMO: The American people have spoken. Donald Trump will be the 45th president of the United States. Let's take a look at exactly who made this happen last night.

Christine Romans, history in action. What did we see in the exits?

CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CHIEF BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: There were some assumptions that were just shattered last night. The assumption was Donald Trump's base was white men, and Hillary Clinton would do better with women and minorities. But there were some surprises when it comes to race and gender.

Perhaps the biggest: Trump did better with blacks and Latinos than Mitt Romney did four years ago. Clinton won both of those groups but not by an Obama margin, not by enough. Nationwide, 12 percent of the electorate is African-American. Clinton won 88 percent of that group. Trump with 8 percent. And while that's a huge margin for Clinton, it was five points less than President Obama's in 2012.

Now, Trump narrowed the Democrats' edge with Latinos, as well. Sixty- five percent breaking for Clinton, 29 percent for Trump. President Obama did eight percentage points better than that in 2012.

Trump also did well with these groups in battleground states. Let's look at Florida. Almost 20 percent of the electorate there tell us they are Latino. Trump garnering 34 percent of that vote. Thirty- four percent of that vote, part of the reason why he won Florida, 63 percent of that group breaking for Clinton. But that wasn't enough.

Moving to Michigan, again, Trump winning over groups that were thought to be solidly Clinton. Looking here at education and race, 33 percent say they are white college grads. That group broke for Trump. So did the 42 percent of whites who said they do not have a college degree.

The only group by education -- the only group by education that Clinton won overall in that state, people with an advance degree. Sixty-one percent for Clinton, 34 percent for Trump.

Finally, looking at the age break down in Ohio. This was very close to what the electorate looked like nationwide. But in Ohio, Trump took every age group except those 18 to 29. That was a major end road for Trump in Ohio, same as in Pennsylvania, Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: All right. Thanks so much for setting all that up. We want to bring back our panel. We have John Avlon, David Gregory, Jackie Kucinich and John Berman. So those were some shocking revelations that we just heard there.

Is it correct, just in case anybody missed it, Donald Trump did better with blacks and Latinos than anyone saw coming -- John.

AVLON: That seems to absolutely be the case. And it's fascinating, because it begs the question, given his policies and his rhetoric, particularly around immigration, illegal immigration, his comments in his opening-day speech, as it were, about, you know, many Mexicans being rapists and some of them being good people, I imagine. How did he perform better than Mitt Romney with the Hispanic community? That is a fascinating question, because it seems to defy logic on the surface.

BERMAN: I think part of it is, at this point, you look back and realize what a compelling candidate Barack Obama was in 2008 and 2012 for the minority community. And while Hillary Clinton did well with them, she could not rebuild the Obama coalition. And when she fell short on the Obama coalition and barely competed for white working- class voters or white non-college voters there, that's where you run into big trouble. CUOMO: Two observations. One, with President-elect Trump and what

this will mean for the cultural norms. I do not know that the word "dulce" on a coffee cup is going to be OK any more. That's one thing for you to think about, Avlon, too.

We expected that the pie would be bigger or the pie would be smaller. What was not anticipated is that the pie would stay about the same size, but his slice of it would much bigger than expected. But that was the reality.

GREGORY: Well, and particularly among working-class white voters. Men and women. That class divide among non-college educated whites was bigger than the gender gap in her direction.

CUOMO: She underperformed, and he over-performed as a result.

GREGORY: It's extraordinary. And I don't understand the numbers among Hispanics in particular, because as I talk to some of the best, you know, Latino pollsters in the country. What they talked about is it being very important the sentiment towards immigrants. Not just your position on immigration reform, but your general mindset toward immigrant, which would include immigrants coming from Syria or elsewhere in the Middle East, as well.

CAMEROTA: Isn't there a conservative strain of the Hispanic vote that maybe we overlooked?

GREGORY: Yes, well, or, I mean...

KUCINICH: But the tone. I mean, going back to, you know, what Republicans were going to fix after 2012. They talked about talking to Hispanics and being a lot more, being a lot more inclusive with their language. This didn't happen here, and it didn't seem to matter.

CUOMO: Well, because they, not they succeeded -- and it's not "they." It's he.

CAMEROTA: He.

CUOMO: Donald Trump, president-elect, succeeded in over-performing with a reducing part of the electorate.

BERMAN: Also kids, by the way, younger voters, millennial voters, again, Hillary Clinton won them, but not by enough. Every part of the Obama coalition she did well, but not well enough. She couldn't build it big enough.

KUCINICH: Answers the question, can Obama transfer the Obama coalition.

BERMAN: He has elected no one but himself in 2008 and 2012. Failed at the midterms and now failed at this.

AVLON: And look, we have been in a cycle where Democrats begin with an advantage in general elections, and Republicans have been doing very well in mid-term elections. This seems to have been a wave election. Maybe not by total electoral numbers but in terms of the House and the Senate that is in place right now.

[06:25:11] Younger voters that Hillary Clinton won, not by the numbers, but also the third-party candidates did fairly well, particularly with younger voters.

Now, it's far from clear that that was dispositive. As in Florida in 2000 when Ralph Nader won 98,000 votes and Bush won by 537. But that's an impact, as well.

But however it was, the modeling, the assumptions about Latino registration and turnout did not work; and he outperformed in other areas. She was not long enough to win in Arizona, but she lost the Rust Belt.

CAMEROTA: Here's another interesting point that Chris and I find very interesting. I don't have it to pull up, but it's when did people decide.

The exit polls showed that people decided, the people who voted for Trump and for Hillary, decided much earlier than we thought. Sixty percent decided before September, before the "Access Hollywood" tape...

CUOMO: Yes. Comey.

CAMEROTA: ... before the Comey letters, that ping-ponging back and forth, the Comey letters. They made their decisions a long time ago and stuck with them.

GREGORY: Look, we do talk about this in terms of -- by the time you get to the debates, which we think are big movers, that the electorate has settled in.

And, again, I think in -- you know, Hillary Clinton is such a known commodity in politics. So, people were able to render a judgment about her and her being the ultimate insider.

BERMAN: But I want to take the under on this one, because -- because, you know, if 8 percent decided in the last week, which I think is what that number...

CAMEROTA: Yes, in the last two days.

BERMAN: That's enough to sway it. Right? I mean, let's not mistake it. I mean, these margins in some of these states are very, very close. And if these people just decided last week, that could put it over the top. This 60 percent doesn't really surprise me, because you're dealing within the margins of party politics.

AVLON: The other factor is in a large part of the Obama coalition was the animating factor of being the first African-American president, and there was the assumption that that would translate to the possible first female president, and it does not seem to have done so. Especially after the "Access Hollywood" tapes, that seemed pretty rational, as well. Republican women, independent women, their support would erode for Donald Trump. That doesn't seem to happen.

GREGORY: And the historic nature of her candidacy. I think we have to have a conversation about gender in this country and that overcoming racism seems to be more important than overcoming sexism in this country.

CAMEROTA: We do need to talk more about that. Panel, thank you very much.

Global markets down sharply after Donald Trump's win. So, how will the U.S. markets be impacted today? How is the rest of the world reacting? We discuss all of that, next.

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