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Trump Defends Enemy Comments; Flight Data Record Recovered in Indonesia; Khashoggi Strangled and Dismembered; Look at Early Voting Information. Aired 6:30-7a ET

Aired November 01, 2018 - 06:30   ET

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[06:30:00] JIM VANDEHEI, AXIOS: You are like the most powerful man in the world, and if you say that word, enemy, enemy, literally tens of thousands of people go into a stadium to listen to you and then people go on social media and they get themselves so jazzed up. There's got to be a party that's like, damn it, I'm scared that someone is going to take it to heart.

DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: It was my only form of fighting back.

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ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: So, John, I mean, once again, the victimhood --

JOHN AVLON, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: Yes.

CAMEROTA: He's entitled to say whatever he wants, even if it's dangerous, as we've seen in the past (INAUDIBLE).

AVLON: This is the most powerful man in the world and he still feels like a victim. He's said directly to those reports that the only recourse he has is to call the press the enemy of the people. And it's interesting based on the past conversation that the sin is false reports. That's what makes you an enemy of the people.

JOE LOCKHART, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: But he also -- but he also --

AVLON: The president is a purveyor of false reports. (INAUDIBLE).

LOCKHART: He also said very quietly in there, they like me more because I do it.

CAMEROTA: I know that. I heard that.

LOCKHART: They like me more because I lie.

CAMEROTA: That's why he does it.

LOCKHART: He knows that. And that -- that is part of his strategy.

CAMEROTA: Well, not because he lies, but he goes after the free press.

LOCKHART: But there's a lie -- there's a lie embedded in that.

CAMEROTA: Of course. Of course.

LOCKHART: And they like it when he goes after Hispanics and Latinos --

AVLON: It sells.

LOCKHART: As he -- because it plays on their own ignorance and reinforces this vulnerability and anxiety that a large swath of Americans have.

CAMEROTA: Yes.

JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: Look, I mean the troubling part of that was the president's smirk, you know, when Jim VandeHei was saying someone's going to get hurt. Someone's going to get hurt. And the president had sort of an -- almost a smile on his face.

CAMEROTA: I don't know. I had a hard time actually reading that facial expression because it, for a minute, it looked pained. For a minute it looked pleased. It was hard to tell what he was thinking, of course, and we can't analyze that, but it does sound like he is not going to back away from that language.

Thank you all very much, Joe, John and Abby.

BERMAN: All right, coming up in the 8:00 hour, we're going to speak to Florida's Democratic Gubernatorial candidate, Andrew Gillum. The president had a lot to say about him last night. This will be Mayor Gillum's first chance to respond to some of those comments.

CAMEROTA: And an airline worker wakes up in a different city than where he fell asleep. I hate when that happens. We'll explain what happened, next.

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[06:36:09] BERMAN: Divers have recovered the flight data recorder from the passenger plane that crashed minutes after takeoff from Indonesia's capital on Monday killing all 189 people on board.

Our Ivan Watson live in Jakarta with the very latest.

This is a big development, Ivan.

IVAN WATSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: It is. It could be a potential breakthrough because the flight data recorder records all sorts of different data streams. Everything from the altitude, velocity, the performance of the engines, to, I've read, it could even show whether or not a smoke signal went off. It was hard to find. It took days to hone in on the pinging of the underwater beacon that goes off every second. And the divers had to battle fast underwater currents. They had to dive to depth of 35 meters, more than 100 feet, to the seabed with the help of a remote operated submersible. And it was able to hone in. And then they had to dig through the seabed, through mud, to bring this up. It's been handed over to the Indonesian National Transportation Safety

Council and they say that it could take weeks to months to first download all the data and then analyze it and hopefully come to some kind of an answer of why this brand-new Boeing 737 Max 8 crashed just 13 minutes after takeoff.

And, meanwhile, we've just had a fresh delivery of debris, and, I'm sorry to say, human remains, some of the 189 passengers and crews, brought in. They're being identified as we speak here, going through that very difficult and delicate process of trying to recover and bring closer to some of the grieving loved ones and reunite them with their missing loved ones.

Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: Oh, my gosh, Ivan, I mean, the world appreciates the perseverance of those divers so that we can get some answers. Thank you very much for reporting from the scene there.

Meanwhile, Turkey's chief prosecutor says "Washington Post" journalist Jamal Khashoggi was strangled and dismembered quickly after entering the Saudi consulate in Istanbul last month, but where are Khashoggi's remains.

CNN's Jomana Karadsheh live in Istanbul for us.

What's the latest, Jomana?

JOMANA KARADSHEH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Alisyn, after weeks of this drip feed of leaks we've been getting here from Turkish officials, this is the first official statement we've had from the chief prosecutor here in Istanbul, who's overseeing the criminal investigation into the murder of Jamal Khashoggi. And according to their investigation, they say that this was a premeditated act. Something that we've heard from Turkish officials over the past few weeks. They say that shortly after -- almost immediately after Jamal Khashoggi entered the consulate, that he was strangled to death, that his body was dismembered and then destroyed.

Now, it's not clear to us what they mean by destroyed, but according to "The Washington Post," a senior Turkish official is telling them that one theory that they are pursuing is that acid may have been used to dispose of Khashoggi's body.

Now, they say that, according to evidence that was collected from the consulate's garden, they say that this biological evidence supports this theory. And we know, Alisyn, that forensic experts spent hours inside the consulate at the consulate general's residence. And in the past few days, a company was used to use their robotic cameras to inspect the sewers around the consulate also.

Now, despite these latest revelations, we're hearing from Turkish officials saying that they still have many questions unanswered and they are hoping that the Saudis would answers them. They were hoping to get those answers from the chief prosecutor of Saudi Arabia, who is here for three days. They want to know, where are the remains and who ordered the killing of Jamal Khashoggi, who dispatched that team of -- that hit team to Istanbul. And they still do not have those answers.

[06:40:13] Alisyn.

BERMAN: All right, I'll take it Jomana.

Jomana Karadsheh for us in Istanbul.

Jomana, thank you very, very much.

So you might have heard this about elections.

CAMEROTA: What?

BERMAN: It all comes down to turnout.

CAMEROTA: I have heard that. I have heard that.

BERMAN: It all comes down to turnout and wakasha (ph) for those who are on the inside there.

But, what exactly does it mean about how you turn out your voters and where does early voting figure into this whole thing. There's something about Harry, next.

CAMEROTA: OK, I see your early voting. I raise you an early voting with a voting panel, OK. How are suburban woman, that all-important voting bloc, feeling days away from the midterms? What issues are on their minds?

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Come in the legal way and you are more than welcome.

CAMEROTA: I mean it is legal to seek asylum.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I well, hope Trump changes that.

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CAMEROTA: We get the pulse of the people, next.

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[06:45:02] CAMEROTA: All right, we're five days away from Election Day, so let's talk voter turnout.

BERMAN: It all comes down to turnout.

CAMEROTA: It does. And it all comes down to, there's something about Harry with CNN senior politics writer and analyst Harry Enten.

Hi, Harry.

HARRY ENTEN, CNN SENIOR POLITICS WRITER AND ANALYST: Hi.

If I ever hear that phrase anymore, it all comes down to turnout, one of the biggest cliches ever and we're --

CAMEROTA: Is it true?

ENTEN: I mean, of course. I mean if no one turned out then it would be bad.

BERMAN: You know who's going to win the football game? Whoever scores more points.

ENTEN: Very, very good.

BERMAN: That's right.

ENTEN: So let's talk about turnout. So you might remember back in 2014 and 2010 Barack Obama was very upset because Democrats weren't turning out in the midterm elections. And indeed if you go back and you look at the voter files, what you see is that the Republicans gained massively because of turnouts in those midterms. So in 2014, they did five points better than you would have thought had everybody turned out. In 2010, they did six points better.

So I think the big question heading into this year is whether or not the polls are accurately reflecting turnout. And, more than that, will Democrats actually turn out? And so we can look at the generic ballot, for example, and see the difference between the registered voters, that is all voters, and the likely voters, and see, is there a massive difference between the two.

As it turns out, there really isn't. Some polls are finding some difference. Others really aren't. But here's the interesting thing, Democrats are actually doing better among likely voters in the generic ballot than they are among registered voters. So we see a --

CAMEROTA: How is that possible? How can there be more likely voters than there are registered?

ENTEN: There are doing better -- there are going to be fewer voters, but they are doing better among them relative to the Republicans.

CAMEROTA: Oh, I see, the Democratic candidates are doing better among likely voters.

ENTEN: Right. Better.

CAMEROTA: Gotcha.

ENTEN: Right. And this is a very, very interesting phenomenon.

Now, I just want to give you an alternative look at that and look at the swing districts. This probably puts it a little bit clearer for you.

So these are "The New York Times" upshot polls and what you see in all the polls, if you average them all together in these swing districts, the Democrats are up by a single point. Among likely voters it's tied.

CAMEROTA: Wow.

ENTEN: So it's very, very close in the swing districts. But, of course, the swing districts are taking place in Republican territory. So that's generally what you'd expect.

But I think that this is very key. This is a huge difference from 2010 and 2014 where Republicans were really gaining versus in the swing district this year we're not seeing Republicans gaining.

BERMAN: No. For a midterm election, Republicans typically turn out more this time. Democrats are at a minimum fighting (ph) them to a standstill. Perhaps with an advantage?

ENTEN: Exactly. And indeed what I would -- what I would point out is that this makes sense in -- when you have a Republican president. I look back at the turnout going, you know, '82, '86, '90, 2002, 2006, and what you see is that normally speaking Republicans do gain but just by a point, which looks exactly like what we see in the swing districts. Republicans did get a gain, but just a single percentage point.

BERMAN: Can you put that last chart up again?

ENTEN: Yes.

BERMAN: I don't want to touch too much. But 2006, and I'm going to underline it right now, 2006 was, of course, the last Democratic midterm wave year. And even then, though, they didn't have an advantage. It was no difference in terms of turnout.

ENTEN: Exactly. And so when we're looking at our House forecast, I have some pretty decent faith in this. In fact, Democrats gained a point since yesterday -- gained a seat since yesterday, 226 to 209, which, of course, gives them the majority. And these polls are taking into account the turnout. And so Democrats, right now, as we've been saying all along, look favored to take back the House.

CAMEROTA: Do you know anything about early voting?

ENTEN: Yes, I would just say this about early voting, it is indicative of a higher turnout. But we don't know how these people are voting, right? We have -- in some states we have party registration. But that doesn't tell us who's going factually, who they're going to vote for. Remember, back in Arizona, the Arizona 8, there was a special earlier this year and people are saying, oh, my God, Republican turnout was so high. And, in fact, what we saw was that the Democrats did much better than we expected.

BERMAN: There's also a great word about early voting. Explain cannibalism when it comes to early voting?

ENTEN: Yes, I would just basically say this, as people are turning out early, it could just be the case that these are people who were going to vote on Election Day anyway.

BERMAN: And you're like, why is that cannibalism? CAMEROTA: Right. And I don't want to ask, but they --

ENTEN: No eating of humans. No eating of humans. Just eating of math and of knowledge.

CAMEROTA: Understood.

BERMAN: Harry, that's awesome. Thank you very much. Appreciate it.

CAMEROTA: Thank you.

ENTEN: Thank you.

BERMAN: We have some breaking news here in New York. Police are looking for a man who shot two people overnight. Authorities say the gunman was wearing a Halloween mask. We have details, next.

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[06:53:01] BERMAN: We have breaking news. A manhunt is underway here in New York City. Police are looking for a gunman wearing a Halloween mask who overnight shot two people multiple times. The New York Police Department says the suspect was wearing a white Halloween mask and a green jacket. The 24-year-old man and 17-year-old woman who were shot are in stable condition at the hospital.

CAMEROTA: An American Airlines baggage handler in Kansas City fell asleep on the job and woke up in Chicago. Police say the worker was apparently intoxicated --

BERMAN: Wow.

CAMEROTA: When he took a nap inside the forward cargo hold in the belly of a Boeing 737 and was trapped there until the plane landed in Chicago. He was not charged with a crime, but American says he's been suspended pending an investigation.

You know what, free trip, OK, free airline, that's how I see this.

BERMAN: Free trip to Chicago.

The comics taking on President Trump and the midterm elections. Here are your late night laughs.

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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: If the midterms, for some reason, don't do so well for Republicans, I think you're all going to lose a lot of money. I hate to say that. I think you're going to lose a lot of money.

STEPHEN COLBERT, HOST, "THE LATE SHOW WITH STEPHEN COLBERT": I believe that's call extortion. Look, I'm just going to say, really nice economy you got here. I'd hate to see something happen to it. I'm just saying. I've stuffed the Dow with oily rags and my son Eric loves to play with matches. JIMMY FALLON, HOST, "THE TONIGHT SHOW STARRING JIMMY FALLON": The

midterms are coming up and Trump's been traveling to as many states as possible to campaign. He even recorded a personal message for every state in the country. We got our hands on some of the outtakes. Here, take a look at this.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK, Mr. President, up first is Alabama.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It sounds too much like Obama. Next.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How about --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Next.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK, how about Hawaii?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hawaii is a beautiful, beautiful country.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: New Mexico?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There's a new Mexico. Isn't the old one bad enough?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, sorry, (INAUDIBLE).

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Make New Mexico old again. Put that on a hat.

SETH MEYERS, HOST, "LATE NIGHT WITH SETH MEYERS": According to reports, former President Obama and First Lady Michelle have acquired rights to a book they may develop into a TV series for Netflix that would help people understand the inner workings of the government. But so far Netflix doesn't have the heart to tell them, should we just -- should we just make it again?

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[06:55:14] CAMEROTA: That's funny.

BERMAN: You know who's in "House of Cards" this season?

CAMEROTA: I've heard that two people make a cameo. I keep hearing that two future TV stars, John Berman, and one Alisyn Camerota are in "House of Cards." Have you seen it?

BERMAN: Emmy. All I can say is Emmy.

CAMEROTA: I smell Emmy.

BERMAN: Emmy.

CAMEROTA: All right, meanwhile, President Trump tweets out this racist video that is designed to inflame voters and induce fear of immigrants ahead of the midterm elections. What is next with five days remaining?

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(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It is a disgrace. He is engaging in immigrant bashing and hysteria.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It does work with his base, and that is why he is doing it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The president has an obligation to make sure that the border is secure.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We're sending 15,000 troops for what purpose? To keep breastfeeding mothers and shoeless children from being able to seek asylum?

[07:00:07] DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We will always