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Deal on Prescription Drug Prices; Democrats Face Reckoning; Clashing Portrayals of Kyle Rittenhouse; QAnon Gathering for JFK Jr. Aired 8:30-9a ET

Aired November 03, 2021 - 08:30   ET



ROSA FLORES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Here. So for all of those parents who are watching and perhaps worried, some of the trials happened here at Texas Children's Hospital. These are some of the doctors that observed those children and they tell us this vaccine is safe.

A few things that parents should know, this dose for children between the ages of five and 11 is a third of the dose, that children still need two doses. They're still three weeks apart, just like the adults. Will they need a booster? The chief pathologist here told me, probably so.

About the symptoms. Now, in children, they have lesser symptoms, the chief pathologist tells me, but some children will have a sore arm, they will have mild fever. They might feel fatigue. But in 24 hours, they're going to be back in the playground. They're going to be OK.

About protection, it's 70.7 percent protection. That mean children will be able to go back to school. They will be able to stay in sports. They are not going to have to worry about long haul.

And, John, finally, what about the delta variant? I asked the chief pathologist. He says it does protect children against the delta variant. Why do they know that? Because the trials were going on right here at Texas Children during the delta surge. That's why they're confident that it protects children.


JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: Rosa Flores, please keep us posted. Great to have you there. Thank you very much.

BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN ANCHOR: So, among the finishing touches on Democrats' social safety net plan is reigning in sky high drug prices. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer announcing that Senate Democrats have reached a deal on this.

CNN chief business correspondent Christine Romans has more.



This deal empowers Medicare, for the first time ever, to negotiate prices for expensive medicines at your doctor's office, at your pharmacy.

So what does it look like? For Medicare Part D recipients, a $2,000 annual cap on out of pocket drug costs. For insulin, out of pocket costs capped at $35 a month. A game changer for many people with diabetes who, as you know, ration their insulin because they can't afford it.

And it's popular. Did you know six in ten Americans takes at least one prescription, a quarter of Americans take four or more prescription drugs.

Now, the deal begins with ten of the most expensive drugs in 2023, for cancer, arthritis and anti-coagulants, extending to 20 different drugs by the year 2028.

Now, the drug companies maintain exclusivity for their new drugs for nine years, for their biologics, 12 years.

Now, this is not as robust as earlier iterations and it fell short of what some Democrats in the House want. Still, the pharmaceutical lobby predictably unhappy here. Quote, under the guise of negotiation, it gives the government the power to dictate how much a medicine is worth and leaves many patients facing a future with less access to medicines and fewer new treatments. That is always the industry pushback against negotiating for drug prices for American consumers.

Now, the Senate deal would also impose a penalty if drug companies raise prices faster than inflation. The Kaiser Family Foundation found, you know, half of the drugs purchased at pharmacies exceed that limit, Brianna. Half of the drugs you buy in pharmacies.

KEILAR: Wow. Wow, that is something. I mean that is a problem that needs to be tackled right there, obviously.

Christine, thank you so much.

ROMANS: You're welcome.

KEILAR: Up next, the Las Vegas Raiders releasing wide receiver Henry Ruggs just hours after he was charged with driving under the influence following a crash that left one person dead.

BERMAN: And after 18 long days, four-year-old Cleo reunited with her family. Where was she and who police have in custody.



KEILAR: Time now for "5 Things to Know for Your New Day."

Just moments ago, Democrat Phil Murphy inching ahead of Republican Jack Ciattarelli in New Jersey's race for governor. The lead now just over 1,600 votes.

BERMAN: CNN projects Republican Glenn Youngkin has defeated Democratic one-time Governor Terry McAuliffe, who tried and seemingly failed to paint Youngkin as close to Donald Trump.

KEILAR: Boston and Cincinnati each electing their first Asian-American mayors. Pittsburgh has its first black mayor. And Durham, North Carolina, getting its first black female mayor.

BERMAN: The NFL's Las Vegas Raiders have released wide receiver Henry Ruggs after he was charged with felony DUI in a fatal car crash. Police say his car rear-ended another vehicle early Tuesday, killing the driver. Ruggs and a passenger in the other car suffered non-life threatening injuries.

KEILAR: And a four-year-old girl has been reunited with her parents after she went missing more than two weeks ago. Cleo Smith was allegedly abducted from her family's campsite in remote western Australia and then she was found after police broke their way into a locked home. A 36-year-old man is in custody and is being questioned by detectives.

BERMAN: That's "5 Things to Know for Your New Day." More on these stories all day on CNN and And don't forget to download the "5 Things" podcast every morning. Go to You can also find it wherever you get your podcasts.

KEILAR: And, as we were watching, Republicans having won big in Virginia, the Democrat in New Jersey now pulling ahead. But, man, his was a close race.

Let's bring in CNN's senior political commentator and the host of "The Axe Files" podcast, David Axelrod.


OK, you know, here we are watching these races. What's the takeaway for you?

DAVID AXELROD, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, I don't think you have to be a political genius to figure out the takeaway. This was a rough night for Democrats. You know, when the country is stressed and ornery and you're the party in power, you're going to bear the brunt of that. And Democrats did yesterday.

I mean there are factors in each race, in New Jersey and in Virginia, that were -- that were particularly those races that have nothing to do with the national picture. But, clearly, when you look across the country, there was a message, and that message is that people are concerned about the virus, about the economy, about those supply chain problems, about the basic stresses in their lives. And they -- they want -- they want responsiveness. And Democrats in Washington are very focused on passing this transformative legislation, but nobody knows what's in it. And they want responsiveness. They want competence. They want cooperation. They want to see basic blocking and tackling. And they didn't feel -- they don't feel they're seeing it right now. BERMAN: You say you don't have to be a political genius. Luckily you

are one. And you're with us here, David. And you're a veteran, right, of the shellacking's that happened to the Obama administration in 2009 in Virginia and then in 2010 in the midterms.


BERMAN: So I guess I have two questions for you. One, is this a message that maybe Democrats have gone too progressive, too liberal. And, two, how do you right the ship if you're the Biden White House?

AXELROD: Yes. Well, first of all, I think different Democrats will interpret it in different ways. And you can sort of see it erupting last night on social media.

I think there are a lot of moderates within the party who will interpret this as a sign that voters were trying to put the brakes on here. Progressives will argue that the ambitions were watered down, that there was a failure to communicate what actually was in the bill.

I was watching earlier on your air when you were talking about this tooth -- this drug discount and the negotiation with drug companies to bring down Medicare drug costs. That's a huge thing. And one of the problems with this omnibus reconciliation bill is it's so large that no one knows exactly what's in it. They just know that it's large. That's been a problem.

But, yes, I do think there's going to be a feeling on the part of moderates. And one of the challenges I said last night for the White House right now is to keep moderates on board for that reconciliation package as they try and pass it through Congress after the results on Tuesday.

What was your second question, John, I got off on a flight of fancy there.

BERMAN: My second question was, if you're the Biden White House, now how do you make it better?

AXELROD: Yes, yes. Well, I think you do have to pass these bills because I think you have to show that you are making progress, that things are happening. And then you have to go out and sell what's in them.

But I also think they need to be very responsive to the day to day concerns of people, to the cost of living, you know, to the supply chain issue that people are concerned about going into the holidays. It's like a mayor. You know, I always say to mayors, you know, you can be a visionary in your policy, but also make sure the garbage gets picked up, make sure that potholes are getting filled. There is an element of that in national politics too. And right now there are day to day concerns that people are feeling, and they want to know every day that those concerns are being met in a -- in a clear and competent way. So I would focus on that.

One thing I would say, though, you mentioned 2009. You know, we were facing an economic crisis that the economist told us in the beginning would not be resolved in a year or two years and maybe in many years because of the nature of how that recession came about. This is a different situation. If the administration and the country can get control of this virus and release the energy in the economy, you know, it could be a different picture next fall.

So I don't think that what happened on Tuesday is necessarily predictive of what's going to happen next year. But, certainly, you can't have a president going into the midterms with a 43 percent approval rating and expect a positive result.

BERMAN: David Axelrod, great to see you. Thank you so much for being with us this morning.

AXELROD: Good to see you guys. Thank you.

BERMAN: So the murder trial for Kenosha shooter Kyle Rittenhouse is underway. Dramatic opening statements ahead.

KEILAR: Plus, they see (ph) dead people. Hundreds of QAnon followers turning out in Dallas in search of the impossible.



KEILAR: Just a short time from now, the Kyle Rittenhouse trial will resume in Kenosha, Wisconsin. During opening statements, prosecutors portrayed Rittenhouse as the only person to take a life amid the city's unrest, while the defense argued that he was legally defending himself when he shot three men.

CNN's Shimon Prokupecz is live for us in Kenosha with more.

This was quite a dramatic day, quite a dramatic start, Shimon.

SHIMON PROKUPECZ, CNN CRIME AND JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT: It certainly was with the opening statements. But, Brianna, prosecutors really wasting no time calling a key witness to the stand as their first witness, a friend of Kyle Rittenhouse, and the man who purchased that weapon for him, and a man who spoke to Kyle Rittenhouse moments after the shooting.


PROKUPECZ (voice over): Opening statements in the homicide trial of Kyle Rittenhouse, laying out rival theories Tuesday.

THOMAS BINGER, KENOSHA COUNTY ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEY: We're not asking you to solve a mystery in this case.

MARK RICHARDS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: But, ultimately, what this case will come down to, it isn't a who done it, when did it happen or anything like that.

PROKUPECZ: Rittenhouse facing six charges after opening fire during protests in Kenosha, Wisconsin, last year, the days of unrest ignited after a police officer shot Jacob Blake seven times leaving him paralyzed from the waist down.

BINGER: Life is more important than property. Up until Tuesday night, despite all of the things that the community had experienced, no one had been killed.


PROKUPECZ: But on August 25, 2020, Rittenhouse killing two men and wounding another while he says he was protecting a car dealership. The prosecution arguing that despite the chaos of the protests, one fact is clear.

BINGER: Out of these hundreds of people, only one person killed anyone that night.

PROKUPECZ: According to the defense.

RICHARDS: He acted in self-defense, ladies and gentlemen. The evidence will show that his actions on August 25th of 2020 were reasonable, under the circumstances as they existed that night.

PROKUPECZ: Prosecutors calling their first witness, a friend who says he purchased the AR-15-style rifle Rittenhouse used during the shooting.

DOMINICK BLACK, PROSECUTION WITNESS: I didn't believe the gunshots were actually his until I got a phone call. And I answered it and he just said, I shot somebody, I shot somebody.

PROKUPECZ: Dominick Black testifying he traveled to Kenosha with Rittenhouse, taking a similar weapon. The 20-year-old describing the moments after the shooting.

BLACK: He was freaking out. He was really scared. He was pale, sweating a lot. He wasn't really talking. He just said he had to do it. It was self-defense. He -- he was -- people were trying to hurt him.

BINGER: Did he ever say to you that someone was trying to attack him with a gun?


PROKUPECZ: Black is facing criminal charges for buying the weapon for Rittenhouse, who was too young. He told the court he hoped testifying would bring leniency in his case.

Prosecutors bringing in two more witnesses Tuesday, including an FBI agent and Cory Washington, who live streamed protests in the area.

Rittenhouse has pleaded not guilty to all charges. The judge says the trial could last about two weeks.

(END VIDEOTAPE) PROKUPECZ: And, Brianna, yesterday the defense attorney alluded to the fact that they may actually call Kyle Rittenhouse to the stand. Certainly that would be a big moment in this trial.


KEILAR: Certainly would be. We'll see if that happens.

Shimon, thanks.

BERMAN: All right, everything I'm about to tell you actually happened. Hundreds of QAnon followers from across the country gathered in Dallas to witness John F. Kennedy and John F. Kennedy Jr. reappear and announce that Donald Trump would be reinstated as president. They were disappointed when the assassinated president and his deceased son never showed.

CNN's Donie O'Sullivan joins us now.

And I know there's a tendency, Donie, to laugh at this, but it's terrifying.

DONIE O'SULLIVAN, CNN: Yes, John. I mean, look, if we didn't laugh at this thing, I guess we would cry. But it is important to remember the sort of wider context, right, that this is all playing out and is that there's this space online where there is no truth. People are not tethered to reality anymore. And while we have seen -- you know, this was a small segment of the QAnon population, I guess you could call them at this point, but, you know, other folks in QAnon have said, oh, those people yesterday were crazy who showed up in JFK -- to try to see JFK and JFK Jr. They were also the same people who for months are saying the election's been stolen, all the Democrats are going to be rounded up and sent to Guantanamo Bay. So it's difficult to see where, you know, where one conspiracy begins and the other ends.

Obviously, JFK and his son, JFK Jr., did not show up yesterday. So these people didn't get to meet their hero.

But I do want to show you one quote from -- that "The Daily Beast" picked up on, on a live stream. A lot of people were live streaming this event yesterday. A person, one of the attendees, said some of them are home, speaking about people at this event, who were -- feeling lonely. They had nobody there. We've heard these stories for months about people, people feeling alone, having nobody they can talk to and now you have, what, a thousand people in Dallas. I think that's just a really important point to hit on here, John. Amid all the political stuff, so many folks that we speak to who go down these rabbit holes of conspiracy theories, especially online, are looking for community. They are looking for people to interact with, and that is what a lot of these conspiracies give folks that sort of outlet.

That all being said, it's a shame you're in Washington, John. I am going for a late breakfast this morning with Elvis and Tupac. You could have came along. But, hopefully, see you next time.

BERMAN: Yes, look, one person there would have been too many, Donie. But the fact it was hundreds or hundreds really is scary.

Donie O'Sullivan, thank you very much.

O'SULLIVAN: Thanks, John.

BERMAN: Here's what else to watch today.


ON SCREEN TEXT: 10:00 a.m. ET, SCOTUS hears gun case.

1:45 p.m. ET, White House COVID briefing.

2:30 p.m. ET, House Democratic Caucus Meets.



BERMAN: For the new World Series champions, the Atlanta Braves, the win last night was years in the making.


KEILAR: Time now for "The Good Stuff."

And this good stuff is a long time coming for the now World Champion Atlanta Braves.





KEILAR: They shut out the Astros to take the World Series in six.