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Michael Wise is Interviewed about Mark Cuban's Comments; Weekly Jobless Claims; woman Tries to Steal Newborn from Hospital; Organ Donation Prompts Bond. Aired 8:30-9a ET

Aired July 21, 2022 - 08:30   ET

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STEPHEN COLBERT, COMEDIAN: The president's non-emergency press conference was in Massachusetts in front of what appeared to be the bleakest, most desolate spot on planet earth, because nothing says everything's fine like a dehydrated septuagenarian broadcasting from the set of "Mad Max" Fury Road.

TREVOR NOAH, COMEDIAN: And speaking of Democrats having messed up priorities, you know how there are all these Republican candidates running for office right now who believe that the election was stolen from Trump by Italian space aliens hacking the voting machines. Well, some of those MAGA heads are starting to win their nominations.

Believe it or not, Democrats are actually helping these extreme candidates win the nomination because they're assuming that they're too crazy to win the general election. Yes, it's a plan that has never backfired in the history of America for the last five years. Yes. I can't see how that could go wrong.

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JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: Trevor Noah agreeing with what Van Jones was just saying.

KAITLAN COLLINS, CNN ANCHOR: I mean, and what - yes, it's exactly the - the premise that they've been worried about of what he was saying about, that's what people thought with Trump and Clinton, and here they were.

BERMAN: Other news this morning, Mark Cuban is speaking out on the LIV Golf league, saying he can understand why players are signing up.

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MARK CUBAN, OWNER, DALLAS MAVERICKS: There's a price for everything.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. CUBAN: Right? Here's the way I look at it from a golfer's perspective. You know, you bust your ass and you - there's complete uncertainty. You don't know how much you're going to make. Maybe you have some sponsors. Maybe you're doing some deals and that's great, you're making some money. But you have a limited life span in your golf career.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

CUBAN: And if you're apolitical, you're not really into politics one way or the other and someone offers you $30 million, $40 million, $50 million, your family is more important than what the media is going to say about you.

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BERMAN: All right, here with us now, sports journalist Michael Wise.

Michael, great to see you this morning.

There's really two fascinating aspects to this. Number one, what we just heard him say, and we'll focus on that first. And then also maybe this bleeding into other sports leagues.

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First, what you just heard from Mark Cuban, the disclaimer there, if you're apolitical, as a golfer, he can understand why you might do this. Fair?

MICHAEL WISE, SPORTS COLUMNIST: No. And this is why. You don't have to be a social justice minister, you don't have to be necessarily apolitical to just be a human being and realize that Saudi Arabia has an awful record, a murderous record for human rights. And the oppression of women, criminalizing homosexuality. These are things that - it's almost like, John, working for the mob overseas. And I don't know how you get away with just saying, well, if you're apolitical, this is about your kids. These are golfers. Most of them are older. They've made their money. This is about - this is about essentially finding a way to buy a new yacht.

COLLINS: Well, and they're very prominent figures. I mean a lot of these golfers that have come under scrutiny for signing on with the LIV Golf tour is because they are such prominent names. And one thing Mark Cuban was talking about that I thought was really interesting during this interview was the idea of this being kind of a slippery slope. This going to other leagues. And, Mike, this is what Mark Cuban said about that.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you think that scares any other leagues that this is happening like that?

CUBAN: I don't know that it scares other leagues. But it makes us pay attention - UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

CUBAN: That's for sure because, you know, who knows what -- for what other sport or what other, you know, country, whatever it may be, that is going to come in and try to buy recognition.

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COLLINS: Do you think that's true here, Mike, that maybe other leagues could follow suit here?

WISE: I could see them -- Kaitlan, I could see them actually -- other countries putting out money, other countries thinking about putting out their own organization. Those of us who are old enough to remember the ABA, the American Basketball Association, was a rival to the NBA years ago. We're talking '70s. And yet that money didn't come from a person, Mohammed bin Salman, who essentially ordered the murder of a "Washington Post" contributing columnist. Even if you didn't know the name Jamal Khashoggi, you understand what Saudi Arabia's regime is about.

And why I don't think this is going to happen elsewhere is because - and this is maybe unfair in some ways about -- to say about other golfers, but they don't -- many of them come from privileged backgrounds. They don't care what happens to other people, some of them. And I - you know, and I will say that this will never happen in the NBA because they have a lot more social conscience than professional golfers.

BERMAN: Mike Wise, thank you for your time this morning. Great to hear from you.

So this week's jobless claims report just coming in. The numbers and what it means for the country's economic recovery, next.

COLLINS: We also have the story of a father who is mourning in the streets of Ukraine after his teenage son was killed in Russian shelling.

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BERMAN: Happening now, we just got our hands on the new weekly jobless numbers.

Let's get right to CNN business correspondent Rahel Solomon.

What do they say?

RAHEL SOLOMON, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: All right, John, so 251,000 Americans applied for unemployment benefits last week for the week ending July 16th. This was higher than economists and Wall Street was expecting. It's about 7,000 higher. Claims of 7,000 higher compared to the prior week. It's also an eight-month high. We haven't seen a number like this since mid-November. Anecdotally, we know we have been hearing from companies, certainly

tech companies, some companies that also work in housing and real estate, that they have been announcing layoffs. And so, John, folks have been watching initial claims very closely to see, are we starting to see a more significant pickup in unemployment claims, people filing for unemployment benefits.

It is clearly trending upwards. We should say that. So that is something that, you know, Citi just put out a note. They said that the claims rising is significant and sustained. It's something that folks are watching to see, are we starting to see some cracks in the labor market. As we know, unemployment is at 3.6 percent.

BERMAN: Look, no one wants to see more people losing their jobs or applying for jobs theoretically, except the Fed is looking for signs that the economy might be slowing down. This is the type of thing that perhaps, in their eyes, could help cool inflation.

SOLOMON: Right, because the Fed has talked about -- and Chairman Powell has talked about this imbalance in the labor market, right? I mean there are about 1.9 open jobs for every one person looking. And that has kept wages elevated. And so the chairman is trying to sort of cool that demand, bring a bit more equilibrium in labor market, but hard to say we're really seeing that yet. It still might be too early to see it in the labor market. But certainly, one that people are watching a lot more closely these days as we look for the first signs of a cracking in the economy.

BERMAN: All right, those new numbers in. Obviously, things will be coming in more and more earnings reports and then in August a lot of numbers people watching very closely.

SOLOMON: Yes.

BERMAN: All right, Rahel, thank you very much.

COLLINS: It has now been 148 days since Russia invaded Ukraine. And with each day that goes by, each missile that is fired, there are devastating new images of the true cost, the human cost of this war.

In Kharkiv, Ukraine's second largest city, the Russians continue to bomb the streets where people are told, don't go outside. In the attack yesterday, a chilling image emerged. And what you're about to see is difficult, and it's painful, but it's also important. It's a father, holding the hand of his 13-year-old son, killed in the Russian strikes. Standing in the middle of the street for two hours, he prayed over his son's body, according to Ukraine's ambassador to the United States. His expression, one of loss, helplessness, despair.

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His daughter was also hurt in the attack that killed his son. It's a sign of another parent who has had everything taken from them because of Russia's invasion.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) COLLINS: Family members of Amerie Jo Garza, one of the young victims of the Robb Elementary School shooting in Uvalde, Texas, confronted the mother of the gunman and demanded an explanation for her son's actions.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What was the reason why he did it?

Tell us why he did it.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE).

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Tell us.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You said he had a reason. What reason?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why?

Tell us the reason.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What reason?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Because he was pissed off at you because you destroyed him?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What reason did he have?

What reason did he have?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is that what he was saying?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What reason did he have to kill 21 lives? What? What reason?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm right - I'm right here by the (INAUDIBLE).

I'm sorry.

You have no right to judge my son.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, you don't. No, you don't. No, you don't. No. May God forgive you all.

I know my son was a coward. You don't think I don't know that. I know! You don't think I'm carrying all that with me? You don't think I don't know? I know. And I'm sorry.

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COLLINS: That's hard to watch.

BERMAN: We've had a chance to speak to Amerie Garza's family quite a bit here and there's just - there's so much pain.

COLLINS: Yes.

BERMAN: They are going through so much pain. And there's so much frustration overall with how this has been handled since that, even the incredible pain of losing their daughter. It's become even worse since then. I can see how their frustration boiled over in that right there.

COLLINS: Yes, that whole community.

BERMAN: New this morning, a chilling incident inside a hospital maternity ward. A woman is accused of posing as a nurse and kidnapping a newborn baby.

CNN's Camila Bernal has the story.

Camila, what's going on here?

CAMILA BERNAL, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Hey, John. This really is a nightmare for parents. But here is what we know.

A 23-year-old woman now identified as Jesenea Miron, she was able to gain access to Riverside University Health System Medical Center here in southern California by posing as a newly hired nurse. And not only was she able to gain access to the hospital, but she also was able to go into the medical unit where the newborn babies are held.

Then she went into a patient's room and that's when she tried to take that baby. She said she was a nurse, and then hospital staff confronted her. They were able to call security. And yet she was able to get away. She did not take the baby. And then the sheriff's department in Riverside, they issued a search warrant. They arrested her, as you mentioned. She is being held on a $1 million bail.

She is facing two different charges, a kidnapping charge, and also a charge for stealing a child. Now, she's pleaded not guilty. We've reached out to her attorneys and have not heard from them. And we asked the sheriff's department why. Why would she do this? What was the motive behind all of this? They have not given us an answer. So, really, still some questions for the sheriff's department.

And also important here is the hospital. We also asked what was going on here. They say they are reviewing and reinforcing their security measures. But, of course, it is concerning for people here in California and really for every parent who hears this story.

John. Kaitlan.

BERMAN: Yes, I mean, I just can't imagine being in that situation with your newborn.

BERNAL: Yes.

BERMAN: Camila Bernal, thank you very much.

BERNAL: Thank you.

COLLINS: It's shark week, but not the fun kind that you want to watch on TV. It could be the summer of sharks on the East Coast. There has been yet another sighting reported near Long Island.

But first, we're going to talk about a story of survival, wrapped in friendship, when a New Hampshire man who needed a lifesaving transplant that he didn't expect to develop a close relationship with the friendship -- with the donor and the donor's mother.

CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta has today's story in "The Human Factor."

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HAMID MAHDAVI, HEART TRANSPLANT RECIPIENT: Heart failure is miserable. Imagine breathing, instead of being able to take a deep breath and exhale, it's just a very short breath.

DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice over): Hamid Mahdavi needed a heart transplant.

MAHDAVI: So when I was laying in the hospital, I said, if I ever get out of here alive, I'm going to make a commitment to give back.

GUPTA: Hamid was one of the lucky ones, receiving an organ after being on the waiting list only a few months.

CHARLENE SLAVER ROOSEVELT, MOTHER OF HEART DONOR: When I say the heart chooses the person, the comparison of Hamid and Joey is amazing.

GUPTA: The heart had belonged to Charlene Slaver Roosevelt's 23-year- old son, Joey, who had been struck and killed by a car.

ROOSEVELT: Hamid and I developed this relationship. It's not just the man that carries my son's heart, but I've learned to love the man.

GUPTA: Hamid has made good on his pledge to give back, regularly returning to the hospital to speak to others waiting for organs.

And on this day, Charlene is at his side.

ROOSEVELT: Hamid being part of my wedding was just always the given. I wanted him to be there, walk me down the aisle. He placed a rose on the seat for Joey. When we got to the top, and he hugged me, I could feel his heart beating right through his suit.

MAHDAVI: You cannot change destiny, but you can turn something very terrible to at least something positive for many families. Out of the fire, pull out life.

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[08:58:39] BERMAN: So, as soon as this morning, the U.S. Marine Corps may soon have the first black four star general in its 246 year history. Lieutenant General Michael Langley was nominated to lead all American military forces in Africa as general of U.S. Africa Command. The Louisiana native with 35 years of service in the Marines, he has a confirmation hearing before the Senate Armed Services committee that will begin in the next hour.

COLLINS: Also this morning, new video shows a shark chasing a school of fish in the waters off Jones Beach in Long Island, New York. It comes amid a rise in shark attacks and sightings in nearby waters.

Also in Long Island, a great white shark was spotted, not in the water, but on the beach. Look at this picture. Police say a local resident took these photos of the dead shark between seven and eight feet long before it washed back out to sea. The senior director of aquatics sustainability at the Georgia Aquarium told me earlier this week that shark encounters are rare and they could be a good sign, at least for the sharks.

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CHRIS COCO, VETERINARIAN, GEORGIA AQUARIUM: I think we'll see relatively low numbers overall. But I think, again, the good - the good news about sharks along our coasts of Long Island and the eastern coast of the United States in general is that there's a good food base this year, apparently, and the sharks are taking advantage of it.

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COLLINS: Authorities are warning swimmers to use caution as they attempt to locate the shark that is still missing.

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Great news for sharks. They've got an endless food supply, apparently. Bad news if you're in nylon or what are swimsuits made of?

BERMAN: When he said there's a good food source, I think he wasn't talking about humans as the food source. He was talking about a good food source beyond humans.

COLLINS: I think that's up to the sharks to decide. It's like a menu.

BERMAN: Yes. I know it's (INAUDIBLE).

And one thing I did learn is like they like the sound of cans. So you don't drink beer, you know, while you're riding the waves because the cans -

COLLINS: Don't tell my dad that.

BERMAN: The cans will attract sharks.

News you can use.

CNN's coverage continues right now.

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