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America's Exercise Habits are Changing; Extreme Heat Impact By 2053; Jamie Dimon's Comments on U.S.; Catastrophize at Ukraine's Nuclear Plant. Aired 6:30-7a ET

Aired August 16, 2022 - 06:30   ET

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JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: No matter what. Like, peddling is not good in Canada. It was all red.

CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CHIEF BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Well, it was like a really elite thing and you could go - I mean a lot of people were working from home but still going to SoulCycle and now they're going back to work, they're finding other things to do, and they're apparently going to Planet Fitness for $10 a month.

BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN ANCHOR: I have a theory on this.

ROMANS: What?

KEILAR: I think that part of it is when you were stuck in your home, you maybe did some more weight training because that's easier, it's a little more stationary.

ROMANS: OK.

KEILAR: Maybe you saw some very positive results from that.

ROMANS: You're bullish on weight training, is (INAUDIBLE)?

KEILAR: I am. Well, it's a very -- I think a lot of people trend cardio, but actually weight training is very effective, and now they're learning that.

ROMANS: I just think we're -- people are finding out what they want to do and they're changing their behavior again as the - you know, as everything. They're going back to work. They're doing other things. Kids are back in school and now they're going back to the gym.

BERMAN: Padded shorts also.

ROMANS: OK.

BERMAN: In Canada they hate padded shorts.

ROMANS: Thank you.

BERMAN: I just think it's all coming together right now. KEILAR: Do you feel about Canada the way that you feel about the

royals?

BERMAN: No, I - I -- well, the royals, you know, play in Canada. They - they are the sovereigns in Canada.

KEILAR: (INAUDIBLE). They sure do.

ROMANS: Let me - let me tell you - let me tell you about this other trend, quiet quitting. Have you heard about this?

BERMAN: Yes, thank you (ph).

KEILAR: Yes.

ROMANS: Hash tag quiet quitting. So you look at these videos on TikTok and YouTube of people who are celebrating their lack of enthusiasm for their job. They're just going to mail it in. They're just going to do exactly what they're supposed to do and not go above and beyond the distribution of the job.

And there are a lot of people - thousands of people are celebrating this. "The Wall Street Journal" and others have written stories about how we have entered the new phase of the pandemic where people, OK, I'm back to work. I'm not going to celebrate it. I don't really enjoy it. I'm not going to do any more than I need to do. I'm not quitting my job, I'm just quietly mailing it in.

BERMAN: Are you supposed to celebrate when you get to work? Like, I'm sorry, are -- is there supposed to be like music or bell ringing? What's the - what's the - how do you -- how do you celebrate?

KEILAR: It is for you every morning.

BERMAN: It's 4:00 a.m.

ROMANS: It's the opposite - it's the opposite of the 1990s, early 2000s corporate animal, right, where you were just like constantly on - I mean some of these videos are people who are like literally turning off the phone at 5:00 p.m., the work phone at 5:00 p.m., not answering email after 5:00 p.m., not doing anything above and beyond the 9:00 to 5:00 of the job and saying that's good because work/life balance is what this pandemic has taught me, that I don't need to work for the man, you know, and not have any kind of a balance to my own life. So it's actually quietly quitting the rat race, still have the job and focusing on your actual life.

KEILAR: And maybe you can get away with it more in this economy for the people who are doing it, but a lot of people did take so much stock during the pandemic about what really mattered to them.

ROMANS: Right.

KEILAR: They were confronted with some existential questions and they had a chance to be in a different work environment and think about what they really like. But for some people it's also about, like, and you know because you have multiple children, when unsupervised, what do you do? It separates people into different categories. Maybe you sort of loaf off. Maybe you really - you work because you're intrinsically motivated.

ROMANS: So, you think people are -- people are finding their true self, you think?

KEILAR: I think so.

ROMANS: You think a health crisis, a two-year health crisis, an economic crisis, has people finding their true selves?

KEILAR: Yes.

BERMAN: I think it's weight training. I think - I think - I - I think it's weight training.

ROMANS: I would say weight training in padded shorts, but not in Canada.

BERMAN: The choice.

KEILAR: And they have the chance to learn if they're lazy or not. I didn't have that chance and I would relish that.

ROMANS: But I think so many of these videos, these people don't think they're lazy. They're just saying, I am going to give what I need to give and focus on the rest of my life too.

KEILAR: That's a good point. And I take it back. I don't mean to malign people as lazy when really they may just be balancing their priorities, which is a goal. I think that's a great goal.

BERMAN: I celebrate you, both of you. Thank you for coming in. We ring the bells every time you walk in here. Great to see you, Christine.

KEILAR: Yes, we do. Christine, thank you.

Michael Smerconish calls the Senate race in his state a joke. He's going to join us ahead.

Plus, a piece of airplane debris just falls out of the sky, barely missing a man in Maine. We're going to speak with him.

BERMAN: Puts it in perspective, right?

KEILAR: Sure does.

BERMAN: And the new research that shows millions of Americans will see temperatures, I believe, soar above 125 degrees in the coming years.

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BERMAN: So, if you think it is hot now, in the next 30 years an extreme heat belt will affect more than 100 million Americans as a result of climate change. This is according to new data by climate research non-profit First Street Foundation. Researchers say by 2053 people living from Texas to the Great Lakes will experience a heat index above 125 degrees during the hottest days of the year. And the probability of local heat waves, that's temperatures well above normal for three consecutive days, will increase across the country. And that probability highest along the West Coast.

Let's bring in meteorologist Chad Myers.

Chad, this doesn't sound good.

CHAD MYERS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: It doesn't, John. And it's been a long, hot summer for so many people. Another hot one from Oklahoma to Texas, all the way to the Gulf Coast today.

This weather brought to you by Safelite, your vehicle glass and recalibration experts.

So, let's get to it.

What did the research say? There could be 30 additional days in the summer across the Gulf Coast over 100 degrees. Additional from where we are now. Now, this is 2053.

But now, remember, a few years ago there was a research project that said London could get to 104 by 2040. They were 2040 came in 2022 because it was 104 in this year.

Where we have the heat belt, heat index, 125 or greater right now, this is where they believe it will be, now at least one day, at least one day of 125 or greater across those red areas. Meaning, more air conditioning, meaning more CO2 into the atmosphere, if we're still using fossil fuels to make that electricity, John.

BERMAN: All right, Chad, thank you very much for that.

JP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon says there is truth to China's claim that America is incompetent and lazy.

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KEILAR: Plus, Ukrainian President Zelenskyy has accused Russia of using nuclear blackmail at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. We are live from Ukraine ahead.

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BERMAN: His morning, billionaire and JP Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon is facing criticism for saying there is truth to China's claim that the United States is incompetent and lazy. According to Yahoo! Finance, he told that to wealthy clients on a call last week, adding, quote, we have screwed up infrastructure, we have screwed inner city schools, but I think it's a mistake to say that America has the short end of the stick. We have the best military in the world but we have overused it. Let's bring CNN political commentator and host of CNN's "SMERCONISH,"

Michael Smerconish.

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Do you think JP Morgan clients like to hear this from the JP Morgan CEO, Michael?

MICHAEL SMERCONISH, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: You know, at the risk of sounding like Mr. Wilson saying, hey, Dennis, get off my lawn, all of a sudden I'm the old crank, I think he's on to something. I mean I just listened to Romans talking about quiet quitting and this phenomenon of millennials saying, I'm going to keep the job but I'm really not going to give it my all. Here on radio, I hear anecdotally from people who say, I can hire someone and they'll show up for the first day but I don't know if they're coming back for the second week. Apple is now announcing, this is today's news as well, coming back to the office in September for three days in a week. Comcast has done likewise. They're getting a lot of resistance because people don't physically want to go back to work.

And something else that's interesting. New research from a Stanford and Princeton political scientist says, the American dream is alive and well for the children of immigrants because they have a greater likelihood of getting rich than the children of those naturally born in this country. So, maybe Jamie Dimon is on to something.

KEILAR: Can I ask you, just to jump off of that, if you think someone doesn't want to come back to work physically, I mean is that necessarily an indication that they aren't committed to their job?

SMERCONISH: It might be. I mean, Brianna, it depends. If it's -- if it's someone who says, no, I'm enjoying the cushiness of being at home, even though I'm less productive, and therefore I don't want to go in and punch the clock and be there five days a week, then, yes, I'm worried about that work ethic.

BERMAN: Michael, you live in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, and there is a Senate race there between Lieutenant Governor John Fetterman and Mehmet Oz. And, I mean, first of all, it's getting a lot of attention nationwide because things keep happening that raise people's eyebrows. This highly publicized -- the video was made a while ago, but it got a lot of publicity over the last few days of Mehmet Oz going shopping. I want to show people that video.

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DR. MEHMET OZ (R), PENNSYLVANIA SENATE CANDIDATE: Thought I'd do some grocery shopping. I'm at Wegner's (ph) and I -- my wife wants some vegetables for crudites, right? So, here's a broccoli. That's two bucks. Not a ton of broccoli there. There's some Asparagus. That's $4. Yes, carrots, that's four more dollars. That's $10 of vegetables there. And then we need some guacamole. That's $4 more. And she loves salsa. Yes, there's salsa there. $6. Must be a shortage of salsa. Guys, that's $20 for crudites, and this doesn't include the tequila. I mean, that's outrageous. And we got Joe Biden to thank for this. (END VIDEO CLIP)

BERMAN: All right, beyond the fact there's no Wegner's (ph) store -

KEILAR: Ouch.

BERMAN: Michael, why - why you shaking your head like that?

SMERCONISH: He lost me at crudites. You know, though, John Kerry - when - when John Kerry was running for president a few cycles ago, he came to Philadelphia and ate a cheesesteak. One of those things you have to do. Only he ordered his with Swiss cheese. Nobody orders a cheesesteak with Swiss cheese. And it followed him around.

So, it was an unforced error by Dr. Oz. But I have to say this, as one who's paying close attention to the race, it's really sad. It is - it is such a dumbed down race, and yet it's a race that may determine control of the entire United States Senate. If you saw the commercials and the messages that they're putting out -- one guy is a caricature of a professional wrestler and the other guy is a charlatan. And you can figure out which I'm addressing with each of those labels. But there's no substance. Instead, it's like, hey, I'm in shorts and I have tattoos and the other guy is shopping at Wegner's, even though we all know it's Wegmans.

KEILAR: Or Redner's (ph), which is actually where he was. He combined the two. Redner's - I know - it gets even better, Michael.

Also, no one needs that many carrots. You can get lose carrots and get fewer. That's just a lot of - you'd turn orange eating that many carrots, I'd think.

BERMAN: It's crudites. Crudites.

KEILAR: Crudites, as I like to call it.

BERMAN: Yes, exactly. Well, let's even call it that.

KEILAR: Or veggie tray, which, I guess, is what most people would call it.

I also want to play a moment of Fetterman that his critics on the right are seizing on. Let's watch this.

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JOHN FETTERMAN (D), PENNSYLVANIA SENATE CANDIDATE: Tomorrow -- tomorrow is -- three months ago - three months ago my life could have ended. It's the truth. But I'm so grateful to be here tonight as well.

I was on my way to another event. And Gisele recognized that I'm having a stroke. And let me just tell you right now in front of everyone, Gisele saved my life.

(END VIDEO CLIP) KEILAR: He did have a stroke in May. Republicans have seized on -- his Republican critics have seized on whether he's sort of healthy enough, whether he's kind of with it. And I wonder what you think voters are going to see, from someone who did suffer a stroke, took a period for recovery, and no doubt will still be recovering.

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SMERCONISH: Wish him Godspeed, and I hope that he's 100 percent. But, at some point, he's going to have to do more than just speak in a controlled environment for ten minutes and not be interviewed by the media. I think he's done two interviews so far. Dr. Oz says he wants him on the debate stage five times and that Fetterman hasn't responded yet. We need to see them side by side in the end.

BERMAN: One of the thing I wonder about this race, Michael, is it's a Senate race, not a race for governor or executive. And I wonder if people look at that type of contest differently than they might than a executive race because what they are choosing for is a vote. Someone who will vote in the Senate one way or the other. They're choosing for a position that they follow and they just might not care about an issue like health, as much, for that race.

SMERCONISH: You know, I think what differentiates -- this is a slightly different answer than the question that you posed to me. But I think what differentiates the House from the Senate, and maybe gubernatorial races from the Senate as well, so much money, John, is being spent in Pennsylvania. You can't avoid these ads.

While I was waiting to talk to the two of you, one of the ads came on for one of the candidates, I forget for whom it was, but you get to know their personalities unlike a House race, which I think is an intuitive vote in terms of how you think the country is doing. That's why I presume Republicans will have a strong year, retake the House of Representatives. But you just don't know what's going to happen in the Senate, especially where some of the candidates who have been nominated, frankly, remind me of the Todd Akin, Christine O'Donnell era of the GP.

So, the Senate contests are vitally important and we really just don't know which way they're going to go.

BERMAN: Michael Smerconish, it's great to see you. You're not anti- crudites. I've seen your garden. Your vegetable garden looks beautiful, right?

SMERCONISH: I - I grow my own crudites, OK.

KEILAR: You grow your own veggie tray.

BERMAN: I'm just going to have - Michael Smerconish -

KEILAR: Do you call it crudites?

BERMAN: Michael Smerconish, I grow my own.

SMERCONISH: God, no.

BERMAN: We'll leave it there. Michael, thank you so much for being with us. Have a wonderful day.

KEILAR: I love that.

BERMAN: Senators on both sides of the aisle are now asking to see some of the evidence that led to the search at Mar-a-Lago. The Justice Department saying not so fast, citing national security and a criminal investigation.

KEILAR: Plus, Rudy Giuliani's reaction to learning that he is officially a target of the Georgia election interference investigation.

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TREVOR NOAH, HOST, "THE DAILY SHOW WITH TREVOR NOAH": I can see why Trump is pissed if they took his passports. I mean he's the guy who wanted to build the wall and now he's going to need to sneak into Mexico calm as a (EXPLETIVE DELETED). He's just -

And, by the way, you do realize there's a 15 percent chance Trump just misplaced his passport, right? It's possible. It happens all the time. You think the FBI took something and you find it in your sock drawer. Yes, like, for all you know, maybe Melania moved them, you know. She's like, oh, no, I guess now I have to go back to Slovenia by myself. Bye, Donald. Bye.

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KEILAR: It's an important part of the process, though, when you - something's gone missing, to find something totally out of sorts to describe as to why it's missing when really it's just, you misplaced it.

BERMAN: And they had them return it. It's worth noting at this point.

KEILAR: Yes, very important.

So, this morning, Ukraine's president, Zelenskyy, is asking the international community to impose tougher sanctions on Russia after he accused them of nuclear blackmail following repeated shelling near the Zaporizhzhia plant.

CNN's David McKenzie is live in Kyiv watching this very carefully.

David, what you can tell us?

DAVID MCKENZIE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's right.

Brianna, I wanted to show you this first. These are explosions that happened a short time ago, we believe, in Crimea, that Russian- occupied peninsula to the east of where I'm standing. Now, this is significant because they're unexplained. It could point towards more Ukrainian strikes far out of the area of control. So, it is significant.

In the meantime, as you say, there are growing fears about this nuclear site, this nuclear civilian site, to the south of where I'm standing. This is where there have been ongoing shelling and rocket strikes in and around that site that both sides blame each other on. But there are significant fears that there could be some kind of leak or some kind of accident that could threaten this region and beyond.

Here's what Zelenskyy had to say about that.

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PRESIDENT VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY, UKRAINE (through translator): If now the world lacks the strength and determination to protect one nuclear power plant, it means that the world will lose to terrorists. Yield to nuclear blackmail.

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MCKENZIE: The big question now, whether inspectors will be allowed on to that site. I think that's going to be difficult considering you'd have to move through the front lines of both sides.

Meantime, earlier today, President Vladimir Putin said this. He said he blames the United States for destabilizing global security, specifically talking about Asia. But I have to say, given the situation I've been describing in the south and the east of this country and this conflict in Ukraine, some level of irony there.

Brianna. John.

KEILAR: Certainly is.

David McKenzie, live for us in Kyiv, thank you.

And NEW DAY continues right now.

Welcome to our viewers in the U.S. and around the world. I'm Brianna Keilar, along with John Berman.

And the Justice Department is putting it out there, that its search of Mar-a-Lago last week involved highly classified materials and highly sensitive information. That is all the DOJ really wants anyone to know at this point in order to protect its investigation and the documents seized from Donald Trump's home in Florida.

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