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Aired September 14, 2022 - 05:00 ET
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BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning to our viewers here in the U.S. and around the world. It is Wednesday, September 14th and I'm Brianna Keilar with John Berman.
This morning, the casket of Queen Elizabeth makes its final journey. You're looking at the pictures of the mile in central London where thousands of mourners already lined up to pay their respects. And here in a few hours, the queen's casket will be moved from Buckingham Palace to Westminster hall where the queen will lie in state until her funeral on Monday.
King Charles, Prince Harry and Prince William will walk behind the casket as it makes its way.
JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: First on CNN, we learned that the royals had dinner together at Buckingham Palace last night after receiving the Queen's casket. In attendance, the queen -- the king, I should say, the queen consort, the children and grandchildren including Prince William and Kate, and Prince Harry and Meghan Markle.
Standing by along this morning's procession route, Nada Bashir outside of parliament, and Nina Dos Santos at Buckingham Palace.
Nina, what can we expect today?
NINA DOS SANTOS, CNN EUROPE EDITOR: Well, it's going to be a big day and a very visible day for royals as well. Senior members of the royal family and also more duly members of the royal family as well, as you, said many of them, John, gathered here at Buckingham Palace yesterday evening. But that intimate family gathering was -- to essentially the matriarch of their monarchial family and dynasty.
Remember, the queen survived by four children, eight grandchildren and 12 great grandchildren. We are going to see prominent members of the family walked behind her coffin later on today. We are expecting the coffin, which is currently in the bubble room here in the west wing of Buckingham Palace to be moved on to a gun carriage at about 2:00 p.m. later on today.
And, then, it will proceed in the 38-minute long funeral cortege, along major London landmarks, moving past, for instance, Downing Street, before heading into the Palace of Westminster, where of course, it will be mounted onto a podium and there will be a service there and eventually the public will start to be able to pay their respects.
The crown, the imperial state crown will be placed upon the coffin, and that shows how significant this symbolism of this event is as well.
But, there is something I do want to point out. And that is the fact that King Charles the third will be leaning the mourners there, walking behind his mother's coffin. Alongside his two sons, the two princes, Prince William the new prince of Wales, and also his brother Prince Harry, the duke of Sussex, whose retired from royal duties and reconciliation, if you'd like, here among these two brothers.
It's inescapable to avoid -- to not think about the symbolism of 25 years ago. These two young princes, walking behind their mother, Princess Diana's coffin where they were just 15 and 12 years old respectively. And also, the focus will be firmly fixed on their perspective spouses by car, as you mentioned, before expecting Catherine, the new princess of Wales to be sitting alongside Camilla, the queen consort in one vehicle, and Meghan Markle, the duchess of Sussex, will share a car alongside Sophie, the countess of Wessex, back for the first time in recent months and years into the fold among the broader Windsor family -- John.
KEILAR: And, Nada, we see people getting ready there along the procession route. Kids were looking at a picture right now, actually, live there in London of a child in a seat getting ready, trying to spend some time as they await this moment -- Nada.
NADA BASHIR, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, absolutely, Brianna. Throughout the last few days really has been remarkable to see the sheer number of people who have gathered Westminster, around Buckingham palace, coming here from all across the country to pay their respects, to the queen. And today, it will be no different.
As I said, we are already seeing people lining up on the streets just across the river behind waiting for the chance to be able to enter the grounds of Westminster, where they will be able to pass by, fouled by the queen's coffin and pay their respects. But, of course, that's been a mention. There is a ceremony before that. We will see the position, and many people will be gathering across Westminster for that chance to clutch a glimpse of -- making that walk alongside his two sons through Westminster until reaching this historic Palace of Westminster behind me.
And this is really a moment of history, this is tradition which dates back to the 18 hundreds, we have seen seven line states take pass in Westminster hall at the palace of Westminster behind me. The last of which was in 2002 which is where the queen mother lying in state.
Those around 200,000 people gathering to pay their respects. And with that figure, it's set to be absolutely dwarfed by the sheer number of people will be gathering, lining up to pay the respects to the queen. We have already had guidance from the palace, from authorities in London, warning people that they may have to wait for hours without having a chance to sit, down and they're only allowed to bring full, bags and they can bring a lot of stuff with them. And of course they have been waiting overnight.
But this is a moment of history and it's one that many people up and down the country want to be a part of.
KEILAR: Yes, certainly, including some of the youngest there in London.
Nina and Nada, thank you so much for those reports.
BERMAN: All right. Back here in the United States, votes still being counting in New Hampshire and key primary races to some outcomes that are so uncertain though. It is possible it could end up being something of a clean sweep for some of the most Trump-like candidates who happened to be the candidates Democrats would be easiest to be in November.
The state Republican Senate primary is very tight. Retired Army general and election denier Don Bolduc leads Chuck Morse by less than 1,800 votes. The winner takes on incumbent, Maggie Hassan, the incumbent Democratic senator. Some Republican leaders are worried that the Bolduc victory could jeopardize their chance to win that seat.
The New Hampshire first congressional district, Karoline Leavitt, a former aide in Donald Trump's White House also an election denier, won her Republican primary at age 25. She would become one of the first Gen Z candidates in Congress. She would be one of the Gen Z members in Congress if she were to win.
And, incumbent Republican Governor Chris Sununu who is seeking a fourth do your term prevailed for his primer. He of, course not a Donald Trump acolyte, he would be separate from the other candidates who are leading at this point, Brianna.
KEILAR: And, Boston police and the FBI are investigating two packages sent to northeastern university. One of which exploded when it was open, injuring a staff member. Officials haven't said how the package arise but, the camp says virtual reality center they are investigating a possible motive.
According to sources, it contained a rambling know that criticize Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg and the relationship between academic institutions and the developers of virtual reality. Boston's mayor praised the quick law enforcement responds.
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MICHELLE WU, BOSTON MAYOR: Within minutes, our police department and EMS and Fire Department were here taking care of all aspects of the investigation and ensuring that everyone throughout this whole community was safe. We want to make sure to emphasize that this is of the utmost priority, the safety and well-being of all of our young people here.
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KEILAR: The police uncovered a second similar package that was rendered saved by the bomb squad. Officials say the campus has been secured. The staff member who opened the package sustained minor injuries.
BERMAN: So, the markets open in a few hours after the Dow suffered its worst day since 2020, down near 1,300 points, that stung.
Investors are anxious about inflation which remains stubbornly high. The drop came over the hills with a new inflation reward. Food costs jumped 11.4 percent over the past year. That's the largest annual increase since 1979.
And, aside from that, there is a looming railroad strike that could begin as soon as this Friday, and that could be a big strain on the economy.
With me now, CNN business reporter, Nathaniel Meyersohn and chief business correspondent Christine Romans.
Romans, talk to me first about the possibility of this labor action on the road.
CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CHIEF BUSINESS CORRESONDENT: So, this is a challenging developing, a very challenging time for the U.S. economy. I mean, 30 percent of the U.S. freight moving into the United States goes on rail lines, right? So this is a big problem.
The railroad companies have been making a ton of money during -- it's not a profit problem here, not a pay problem for a lot of these workers. So many of these conductors and engineers work on this rostering system where they basically on-call seven days a week.
And guess what? In 2022, American workers labor has the upper hand, we all know, and they are just not going to work like that anymore. So now they've got some serious, serious negotiating to do.
BERMAN: It is a lot of work to get done if they want to get a deal by Friday, if it doesn't, work and, by the way, the administration I think has evolved at this point because they don't want this to happen. But, if there were to be a labor action, if there were to be a strike or a lockup which is also possible here, how much with that disrupt supply chain?
ROMANS: It would -- it would really tangle up supply chains, again and you've already got companies positioning for this. Amtrak is suspending some long haul routes because while Amtrak owns its own lanes and its lines in the Northeast, it goes on these -- travels on these railroad rides for other big parts of the country, especially from Chicago.
[05:10:07] So they're already starting to position themselves for what happens if there was a strike. So, already, you're seeing tweaks in the economy because of the threat of this.
BERMAN: All right, aside from this, you've done some excellent work. By the, way there's a lot of food ship on the railroads. So, that could increase costs for food supplies. Well you've been doing work, and we show the numbers before about food price increasing year over year. And you've been looking into how people are changing, the way that they behave.
NATHANIEL MEYERSOHN, CNN BUSINESS REPORTER: Right, so it is a difficult time for shoppers right now at the grocery store. And, we see customers adapting in several ways to these higher prices. More shoppers are going to Dollar Stores and discount stores like Walmart and Aldi. We see customers switching from pricier name brands like Coke and Pepsi to store's own brand. You think Costco's Kirkland signature. These are some of these cheaper brands.
And then, early in the pandemic, customers were stockpiling. There were loading up their pantries, planning weeks and months in advance. We are not seeing that anymore. Customers are just buying what they need, quicker trips to the grocery store just buying the essential.
BERMAN: I was laughing because my wife and I are trying to eat through our pantry, our pandemic pantry. So, all of the dishes are like these non perishable foods that I've been sitting there for nearly two years.
If people do change their behavior, that increases, I should say, put some downward pressure on prices, theoretically, right?
ROMANS: Well, absolutely. You see people downgrading, downshifting, and we have the CEOs on the conference call talking about how they're buying different prices and price cuts of meat, right? And also they're finding that there has been so much disruption in the price chain that sometimes will be a category food that they could markdown very quickly, because they've got too much of, it right? So you're seeing these little spots.
Also, outside in the food category, we've heard from retailers that they're trying to get rid of stuff, couches and big TVs and apparel. So, you're seeing markdowns on there. I think we will see markdowns throughout the holiday season. But I think people are going to be, very, very strategic for holiday shopping. By the way, the national retail federation says that the real strike could be a problem for consumer goods to start moving from the docks in the shipyards and have to go to stores and warehouses for the holiday.
BERMAN: Look, the difference between retail low in food is that inventory can sit around.
BERMAN: Where as the grocery store, let's hope it's not sitting around for months on end. Nathaniel, what else can we expect to see going forward in terms of
MEYERSOHN: So, I think the prices are going to stay elevated for a good while here. And we are going to see shoppers really searching for these discounts at stores. And it's going to be a downbeat holiday season compared to last year when shoppers were more flushed with cash and inflation was lower.
BERMAN: All right, Nathaniel Meyersohn, Christine Romans, thank you.
ROMANS: You're welcome.
BERMAN: So much, have a wonderful rest of your day.
CNN goes inside the buttered Ukrainian town, just days after Russian forces were driven out. New CNN reporting on the DOJ's investigation of Donald Trump. It is widening and it is vast.
KEILAR: And, the January 6 committee receiving significant new information about the deletion of Secret Service text messages involving the capitol attack.
KEILAR: This morning, Ukrainians in newly liberated towns speaking out after their military extraordinary counteroffensive reshaped the battlefield. As they celebrate freedom from months of Russian control, they are also mourning what was lost.
CNN's Melissa bell is live for us in Kharkiv with more on what they have endured -- Melissa.
MELISSA BELL, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Brianna, even as the counter offensive slows around the strategic town there is some 3000 square miles of territory that the Ukrainians are, and where the President Zelenskyy, trying to de-occupy. Now, that means going after potential Russian deserters who might still be on Ukrainian territory, but also trying to weed out those Ukrainians who may have collaborated.
And remember, and a part of the world where, for six months, basic survival began with just keeping your head down.
BELL (voice-over): Larissa Kharkivska (ph) is ashamed of what little she has, food, given by the Russians. Mainly, rice, flour and sugar.
For six months, she says she and her 35 daughter were virtually prisoners of their apartment, too scared to go out.
The medical help Svetlana needs after an accident 15 years ago, impossible to get. Most people, says Larissa, left Shevtronkeve (ph) through Russia, only
the poorest left behind living on what they can grow, apples and watermelon mostly.
Larissa's empty fridge now her primary concern.
She's embarrassed, she says, we'll show the world how empty it is.
But tries nonetheless to offer of some of the watermelon preserve she just made, before showing us around the time liberated on Friday after several days of fighting. The shops now closed where for six months, only affordable for Russian soldiers, she says.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): They marked people. Sometimes they killed. There were so many of them. And they were so young.
BELL: The arrival of Ukrainian soldiers, a relief for Larissa and her friend, Maria, but almost too much to digest.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): There's psychological abuse and there is violence. For me, psychological abuse is worse.
We were sitting in a basement for two days, and then our husbands came and said our soldiers are here. It was just tears of happiness.
BELL: Happiness at the change of hands, but uncertainty, still, about how to survive and what the immediate future holds.
BELL: Some basic supplies arriving, some of that much needed humanitarian aid, Brianna. Bear in mind, this is the part of the world where people haven't had access to their pensions, to their savings, for a long time, and where they're fast running out of feeding water, Breonna.
KEILAR: And, she still offers her canned goods, even though she has a little. It is just amazing to see, Melissa. Thank you for sharing that with us. Melissa Bell, live for us from Kharkiv.
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BERMAN: And, thousands of people lining the street to pay their respects as Britain mourns its queen.
BERMAN: In London, this morning, thousands of people lining the street to catch a glimpse of Queen Elizabeth casket as it is brought to Westminster Hall from Buckingham Palace. It will lie in state at Westminster until the funeral on Monday.
CNN's Scott McLean is nearby on the ground in London.
Scott, what are you seeing?
SCOTT MCLEAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: John, let me show you quickly. So, this is the land bridge here. This is where the lineup to see the queen's body lying in state starts. It's next all the way along this pathway until almost the Westminster Bridge. You see it down there in green. Of course, you could see the houses of parliament across the way. That's where Westminster Hall is. That's where the body will lie at state for four and a half days.
By my estimation, the lineup right now is about a quarter mile long. Officials the, have knocked out a route that is about four miles long. The reason that they're expecting so many people to be here potentially is because some 33,000 people filed past the queens coffin when it was in Scotland. There were 200,000 people who filed past the queen's mother's coffin back in 2002. It was lying in state for three days, and so, they expect that even more people, hundreds of thousands of people will view the queen's coffin over the next four and a half days.
Now, some people here say that, look, they just wanted to be part of history. Others are devoted monarchist. But most people that we have met say that they simply have a deep admiration for the queen. And they wanted to be here to pay their respects like the two gentlemen that I met more than three hours here last night, stood in the rain overnight to stick out the place. Listen.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: First of all, she said, what she's done for the last 70 years, for us to stand for ten hours is nothing compared to the 70 years that she's given us.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's just an amazing woman. An amazing woman.
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MCLEAN: So, one thing that you'll notice, John, is that people, a few of them have lounge chairs. But you don't see a lot of tense. You don't see a lot of equipment. You don't even see a lot of blankets. And that is because officials have said that there is only going to be room for people to bring one small backpack in. And so, people are not able to have a lot in the way of food, supplies and blankets. So instead, they are exposed to the elements. But virtually, everyone says it is well worth it.
BERMAN: So, Scott, to be clear, this is not people lining up to see the casket as it is brought from Buckingham to Westminster. This is the line for people who want to walk through Westminster once the queen's casket is there to view it?
MCLEAN: Correct. And we are still more than six hours away. Keep in mind that a few hundred people slept here overnight. The two women, at the very front of the line, they actually spent the last two nights, they, say camped out here hoping to be the first ones to lay their eyes on that casket to really pay their respects to a woman that they deeply, deeply admire.
BERMAN: All right, Scott McLean for us out there amongst the people we appreciate you being there.
So, Donald Trump ally and my pillow guy, Mike Mandel, says the FBI seized his phone overnight, as the Justice Department intensifies its probe of efforts to overturn the 2020 election, first on CNN, Bill Richardson and Moscow working for the release of Americans being held in Moscow. We have new reporting this morning on who he met with.
KEILAR: And Senator Lindsey Graham's proposal for abortion ban getting a thumbs down from Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell.