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Dispatch Audio Released in Ferguson Shooting; Top General Makes Surprise Trip to Iraq; Cosby Accuser Goes Public on CNN; Dispatch Audio Released in Ferguson Shooting; Fights Ahead for Obama, GOP
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CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning to you all of you. I'm Christi Paul with --
JOE JOHNS, CNN ANCHOR: Joe Johns, in for Victor Blackwell. It's 7:00 o'clock, bright and early here in Atlanta. Very cold. And we're fine, because we're inside.
PAUL: A little bit of a jolt for him this morning. We have lots to talk about today.
JOHNS: Yes, we do.
We begin with breaking news overnight and the release of police dispatch tapes from that deadly police shooting that put Ferguson, Missouri, at the center of that national firestorm.
PAUL: Yes, our Stephanie Elam has the very latest for us.
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STEPHANIE ELAM, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The "St. Louis Post- Dispatch obtained the police audio and video through the state's so- called Sunshine Law. According to the paper's timeline of the August 9th encounter between Darren Wilson and Michael Brown, at 11:53 a.m., a dispatcher reports a stealing in process at the Ferguson market.
DISPATCHER: Sir, we're taking a stealing in process from 9101 West Florissant, 9-1-0-1 West Florissant. Subject may be leaving the business at this time. Standby for further.
ELAM: "The Post Dispatch" says about 19 seconds later, dispatch issues a description of a suspect.
DISPATCHER: Twenty-five, it's going to be a black male in a white t- shirt. He's running from QuikTrip. He took a whole box of Swisher cigars.
OFFICER 25: Black male, white t-shirt --
DISPATCHER: That's affirmative. She said he just walked out of the door.
ELAM: And there's more detail in the police cross-talk.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's with another male, he's got a red Cardinals hat, white t-shirt, yellow socks and khaki shorts. He's walking up --
ELAM: According to the paper, at noon, Officer Wilson reports he's back in service from another call. He then asks officers searching for the suspects if they need his help.
OFFICER WILSON: 21 to 25, or 22, do you guys need me?
ELAM: Seven seconds later, officers report the suspects have disappeared.
OFFICER: Couldn't hear him.
DISPATCHER: He thinks that they disappeared.
OFFICER: Dispatch, can you really? I couldn't hear him.
DISPATCHER: He thinks that they disappeared.
OFFICER: Clear.
ELAM: The paper says at 12:02, Officer Wilson responds.
OFFICER WILSON: 21, put me on Canfield with two, and send me another car.
ELAM: On August 9th, Michael Brown's friend Dorian Johnson said they were walking down the street when Officer Wilson told them to get out of the road. According to Johnson, he and Brown told the officer they were almost at their destination and would be out of the street shortly. But Johnson said grabbed Brown by the neck and drew his gun, eventually shooting Brown.
By contrast, a Wilson family friend identified as Josie told local radio station KTFK that according to Wilson, Brown started a physical altercation with him and grabbed the gun, which went off. Both sides agree that Brown ran and turned back. "The Post Dispatch" says 41 seconds after Wilson's call, another officer was about to arrive at the location.
OFFICER: 25 out, going out on Canfield.
ELAM: The radio calls also show other officers arriving at the scene. And they called for a supervisor, and then, according to the newspaper, just a call at 12:07 p.m. with the apparent sound of a woman wailing.
DISPATCHER: Frank 25?
OFFICER 25: Get us several more units over here. There's going to be a problem.
DISPATCHER: Are there any other available Ferguson units who can respond to Canfield and Copper Creek, advise?
ELAM: The video shows Wilson in the white t-shirt leaving the police station for the hospital two hours after the shooting, accompanied by other officers and his union lawyer.
The video then shows him returning to the police station.
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PAUL: Stephanie is joining us live from Ferguson right now.
So, I'm wondering, Stephanie, as everybody is waking up to this new information, how are people reacting there?
ELAM: Well, it is just new information here. What is noteworthy about this, Christi, you're not getting the perspective from the police recording of how August 9th unfurled for them. We've heard from witnesses on Canfield where Mike Brown died. But we have not heard more about what happened on that side of the fence here.
Obviously, this is also interesting leading up to this grand jury decision that we're awaiting to hear on whether or not Officer Darren Wilson will be indicted. So, it's just another clue on what may or may not happen when they come out with their decision.
JOHNS: The latest grand jury deliberations, how is the community bracing for a decision on that?
ELAM: I've been having a lot of conversations with people here in Ferguson about that, Joe. And it's wide ranging, some people are buying up a bunch of groceries and they're planning on staying in their houses for days if they have to. There's also very -- a lot of concern about school kids. We're understanding that a lot of schools in the area are saying that they're going to keep the children at the school if the ruling comes down while in session and parents will then able to go pick up their children. But there's concerns about streets are block off, but that's going to mean.
But I've also talked to other people who say that they're not worried but they're concerned about what's going to happen the residents I've spoken to from Ferguson, both black and white, do believe that the town is going to come through this. It's just they're just not sure how they're going to do it, Joe.
JOHNS: Stephanie Elam in Ferguson, thanks so much for that.
Later this hour, we'll talk with our panel of experts about what if any consequences could emerge from the release of these police videotapes and the surveillance of Officer Wilson.
PAUL: Also breaking overnight, we should point out, America's top U.S. general makes a surprise visit to Iraq. General Martin Dempsey now in Baghdad as the U.S. prepares to expand its assistance to Iraqi and Kurdish forces battling ISIS.
JOHNS: According to "Reuters", General Dempsey said, I quote here, "I want to get a sense about how our mission is going."
Let's bring in Christopher Harmer. He's a senior naval analyst at the Institute for the Study of War. Christopher, what message is this visit sending to perhaps U.S.
troops, also, the Pentagon, as well as the United States?
CHRISTOPHER HARMER, INSTITUTE FOR THE STUDY OF WAR: Good morning. Thanks for having me. It's a pleasure to be with you. It's very important for senior leadership to go, what we call, walk the battlefield. They've got to get out there and see what's going wouldn't their own eyes. They got to get a sense or a feel for how the troops are responding, how the situation is unfolding on the ground.
Listen, I've worked here in Washington, D.C., and the world looks very different inside the Beltway than it does in reality. So, I think what General Dempsey is doing here, is sending a message both to the U.S. troops that he understands what's happening, that he wants to get firsthand knowledge of what's happening, and sending a message to our allies, the Iraqi government, that he's taking this seriously, and that we're committed to an ultimate victory on their behalf.
PAUL: He actually sat down with our Kyra Philips about a month ago. We're going to play a little part of what he had to say about ground troops at that point. Let's listen.
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GENERAL MARTIN DEMPSEY, CHAIRMAN, JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF: We need to develop a ground campaign. We've got an air campaign that's ongoing. We need to integrate into that a ground campaign. We need to be able to put pressure on ISIL from multiple directions simultaneously.
We need to continue to restore the capability, training and equipping of the Iraqi security forces, and the Peshmerga. We need to keep pressure on ISIL in its safe haven inside of Syria. We need to build up a Syrian opposition to confront that. And we need a bit of patients.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PAUL: All right. So, Christopher, was sending more advisory troops to Iraq help the fight really against ISIS? Because I think a lot of people look at an advisory group and think at some point, that will equate to boots on the ground.
HARMER: Well, whether we want to call it boots on the ground or not, we've got, you know, north of 1,000 boots on the ground right now, going up to 2,000, probably closer to 2,500. I think what General Dempsey is pointing out is that if the United States is consequentially committed to this fights against the Islamic State, it's going to take more resources that we've thrown it. Some people use the word "mission creep" to describe this increase in U.S. troops. I really don't like that as much as it's resource creep to meet the mission that we've already established.
I think General Dempsey is just pointing out the observable reality that you can't defeat a terrorist organization like ISIS through one vector. You've got to have a multi-vector approach to it. Let me just give you just a quick comparison. We've been fighting the
Taliban and al Qaeda more or less continuously for the last 13 years. We haven't defeated them. We've suppressed them to a certain extent. We've contained them to a certain extent, and I think ultimately, that's where we're heading with ISIS.
Hopefully, the assistance we've provided to the Iraqi government and the Iraqi military will enable them to evict to ISIS from Iraqi territory. I don't think that's going to happen anymore soon but in the short term, that should be the goal that we're working towards.
PAUL: All righty. Christopher Harmer, we so appreciate your insight, sir. Thank you for being with us.
HARMER: Thank you, Christi.
JOHNS: This November is one for the record books already. Our iReporters are sending in proof of that. Places that are usually warm this time of year are falling into a deep freeze. Meteorologist Jennifer Gray is out in it this morning.
Plus, the federal government may be spying on your cell phone calls. What are they doing? Coming up ahead.
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JOHNS: All right. Take a look at what a Boise, Idaho, iReporter sent us. The first snow of the season and it is no joke. Boise received 7.6 inches of snow, breaking the old record by a mere 0.2 of an inch. But, remember, it's mid-November, folks.
PAUL: Hey, that's Christmas card weather. Look at that, it's beautiful. That's gorgeous.
JOHNS: Wow.
PAUL: Jennifer Gray is out in the cold.
JOHNS: Not quite snowy wonderland, though.
PAUL: No, not quite. However, the Christmas tree subpoena, Centennial Park where she is. All the lights are up already.
JOHNS: And you're so lucky, you get to stand out in the cold.
JENNIFER GRAY, AMS METEOROLOGIST: I know, lucky me, right? At least I'm not standing out in the cold in Minneapolis. You know, it could be worse, single digits there. But, yes, it is gorgeous. We don't have the snow here but we do have the beautiful, beautiful trees, the leaves have changed. And so, it is gorgeous out here. But it is chilly.
Temperatures right now, last live shot, we were right around 31. We've dipped around 28 degrees. So, it has dipped just a little bit. It will warm up some throughout the day but nothing compared to our friends to the north. We do have freeze warnings, though, in effect, across through much of
the south. Let's get to you the map even places like New Orleans, the panhandle of Florida, seeing very cold temperatures. That freeze warning is in effect through this morning. Just south of Atlanta, around Macon, you're included in that as well.
Current temperatures outside, 30 in Atlanta, we're seeing temperatures around 32 in Charleston, 25 in Little Rock, 35 in Shreveport, 23 in Nashville, very cold. Even panhandle at freezing, Pensacola, 32.
Here's your forecast. We are going to see more snow throughout the Midwest as we go through the next 24 to 48 hours. That does include you, Minneapolis. Chicago could pick up a little bit of snow.
For the Southeast, though, it's mainly going to be rain. South Louisiana picking up a lot of rain this weekend. North of Atlanta, through Tennessee, also portions of Kentucky, the Ohio Valley seeing a little bit of rain.
So, as far as snowfall amounts go, we're going to see anywhere from two to five inches outside Des Moines, four to six outside of Sioux Falls, one to two in Madison possibly, Minneapolis picking up about one to two inches as well.
Grand Rapids, you've got lake-effect snow and that's going to continue as well throughout the weekend. High temperature, single digits in Rapid City, nine degrees today. We're going to see those temperatures stay below freezing in Minneapolis.
You started this trend of below freezing temperatures on Monday. It could be another week before your temperatures get above freezing. So just stay warm, Minneapolis. Hunker down. It will get better by the time we get into the week of Thanksgiving. Low temperatures also in the single digits and below zero for a lot of cities.
So, guys, Midwest, Northern Plains, they're getting a dose of winter early. Like I said, the week of Thanksgiving should look a little better across the entire country.
JOHNS: So, this is the polar vortex effect, right?
Yes?
GRAY: No.
JOHNS: No, it's not?
GRAY: Arctic air coming down -- look, if the polar vortex is over the U.S., we would have major problems.
JOHNS: Oh, really. OK, it's not --
GRAY: It's basically arctic air pulling down from Canada. Yes, but it's very, very cold.
JOHNS: Oh, well. You know, polar vortex has a Twitter account. PAUL: That's he's been following. Apparently, it's lying. It's not
the polar vortex.
GRAY: The polar vortex is --
PAUL: Yes.
GRAY: The polar vortex is very popular right now.
JOHNS: OK, we got it.
PAUL: Jennifer, thank you so much.
JOHNS: OK, it's a busy day of news. Here's your "Morning Read."
PAUL: Yes, there's a new report in "The Wall Street Journal" on how the government's keeping tabs on us, Americans. It says federal law enforcement agents are flying small planes loaded with gear to spy on cell phones calls. Now, an official at the Department of Justice wouldn't confirm or deny that report.
JOHNS: Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said the country's nuclear program has got systemic problem, and it could cost $7.5 billion to fix them. That's according to "The Washington Post." An internal review found inadequate and ageing equipment and insufficient staffing and resources.
PAUL: In business, when is a billion dollars not enough? Well, how about when your ex-husband is worth $20 billion?
JOHNS: Wow.
PAUL: Sue Anne Hamm is not happy that a local court awarded her nearly $1 billion in the couple's divorce. Her lawyers say she dedicated 20 years in the oil tycoon's business. She should get more. So, she's appealing the ruling.
JOHNS: In medical news, next time you swipe one some sun block, you might want to think about this. A new study from the National Institute of Health finds chemicals from sunscreens and others that filter out UV rays may cause infertility issues in men and make it tougher for couples to conceive. Scientists say make sure you wash off the product thoroughly after you've been out in the sun.
PAUL: Still ahead, some more trouble for Bill Cosby. The cancellation of a major television appearance as decades-old rape allegations resurface against the iconic comedian.
Stay close.
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JOHNS: Those rape allegations against iconic comedian Bill Cosby just won't seem to go away. The latest evidence of trouble for Cosby, his appearance on the "David Letterman Show" next Wednesday has been cancelled. Despite Cosby's repeated denials over the past decade, alleged victims continue to come forward with stories of being drugged and sexually molested by him.
PAUL: Now, one of Cosby's accusers is Barbara Bowman who has gone public with her allegations now. She told our story to our Michaela Pereira and says he was a 17-year-old aspiring actress when Cosby took her under his wing.
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BARBARA BOWMAN, ALLEGED RAPE VICTIM: As a young actress, he was appointed to me to groom me and mentor me through my agent. So when I was 17 in Denver, up and coming and wanting to become an actress and movie star, my agent knew him and he came out to do just that.
When I came to New York, that was all part of it, was they were subsidizing my housing and my acting classes and I was doing acting work with him and I was often in private environments.
MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: You're 17 years old, you're wide-eyed, you're eager and you have somebody taking an interest in you.
BOWMAN: That's right. That's right. And because of the circumstances, like I said, it was very controlled, he zeroed right in on my vulnerabilities which was I had no father figure, so there was no man to come knocking on his door to find out what's going down. And when these things started happening, I wasn't silent. I told my agent what was going down.
PEREIRA: What was the reaction?
BOWMAN: She did nothing. I believe she's as culpable as he is because in my -- inside I believe she did know what was going on so her doing nothing was a protective measure on her part.
PEREIRA: Did you tell other people?
BOWMAN: I didn't tell her -- I told her but I didn't really talk about it much because nobody was believing it. And it was -- I was in a situation, I was in New York, my job was to work hard, go to classes, don't ask questions, just be grateful for amazing opportunity, don't mess its up.
So, when things would come up and he would start making me uncomfortable and I knew something was going on, I would start asking questions and he'd say, "You know what? You don't trust me. You've got to trust me. And, by the way, you were drunk."
And I didn't drink and I certainly wasn't doing anything but exactly what I was supposed to do.
In 1989, though, I did go to a lawyer. A friend talked me into doing that. Eventually, he laughed me right out of the office. It was terrible. It was a humiliating experience.
PEREIRA: Saying, what? That there was no way to prove it?
(CROSSTALK) BOWMAN: This is ridiculous. He's Dr. Huxtable. It wouldn't happen.
PEREIRA: So, we have a lot of things at play here. He's America's favorite dad and people would say this doesn't square up with Mr. Cosby that we know from TV.
BOWMAN: That's exactly right. So I gave up because it was very clear to me, he said it right to my face point blank I better never ever see your face or hear your name again.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
PAUL: Cosby may have addressed the allegations in an interview with NPR. It's airing this morning. We're going to bring that to you as soon as it becomes available.
JOHNS: A fresh time line emerges in the shooting of Michael Brown. We're now hearing the sequence of events that led to the death and police officers that responded in that day.
PAUL: But can any of it influence the grand jury hearing testimony in the case? Our legal panel is weighing in.
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DISPATCHER: Twenty-five?
OFFICER 25: Get us several more units over here. There's going to be a problem.
DISPATCHER: Are there any other available Ferguson units who can respond to Canfield and Copper Creek, advise?
(END AUDIO CLIP)
PAUL: We're following breaking news this morning.
JOHNS: Yes, what you're listening to, 911 calls received by "The St. Louis Post Dispatch" revealing the best time line of events so far in the shooting of Michael Brown by a police officer in Ferguson, Missouri.
Good morning, everyone. I'm Joe Johns.
PAUL: And I'm Christi Paul.
We want to get right to it for you here, as we have this breaking news from overnight. Newly released police dispatch tapes is what you're listening to. They shed new some light on this fatal police shooting of unarmed black teenager Michael Brown.
JOHNS: The radio calls obtained by "The St. Louis Post Dispatch" begin just before noon on August 9th when a dispatcher reports a stealing in progress. Listen.
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DISPATCHER: Twenty-five, it's going to be a black male in a white t- shirt. He's running from QuikTrip. He took a whole box of Swisher cigars.
OFFICER 25: Black male, white t-shirt --
DISPATCHER: That's affirmative. She said he just walked out of the door.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
JOHNS: Now, fast forward, seven minutes later, Officer Darren Wilson radios in with an offer to help hunt for the suspect.
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OFFICER WILSON: 21 to 25, or 22, do you guys need me?
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JOHNS: Just minutes later, a witness reportedly tweeted that he just saw somebody die.
PAUL: Also we should point out new this morning "The Post Dispatch" releasing this new video. That's Wilson just two hours after the shooting. He's in the white t-shirt there, leaving the police station with other officers as well as a union lawyer. A grand jury could decide any day now whether to indict Wilson in Brown's death.
JOHNS: Now, let's bring in our legal panel, HLN legal analyst Joey Jackson, CNN legal analyst Paul Callan. Both are criminal defense attorneys.
Paul, how do these developments, the release of the police audiotapes, the surveillance tapes of Wilson impact the grand jury deliberations that are going on?
PAUL CALLAN, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Well, I think these tapes are going to be a very important piece of evidence. The thing that I would focus on primarily, because I haven't had a chance to look at the video of Officer Wilson in the hospital which I assume is post- incident. But it's the radio calls that now tell us what was really going on in sort a time sequence.
And according to the tapes, it suggests that Officer Wilson had stopped the two young men, Johnson and Brown, because they were walking down the middle of the street. He tells them to get on the sidewalk. He doesn't realize that they have, or at least one of them have been identified as possibly involved in what's calling the stealing incident, because he had been out of a cruiser on another call when the dispatch first goes out.
But while he's in his SUV pulling away from the two, who he probably can see in the rear view mirror of his SUV, the police cruiser SUV, he hears the radio call, confirming that the big tall guy with the t- shirt and the swisher cigars is the suspect.
Now, that would be Michael Brown. So, he now -- we now know when he has his initial -- his second encounter, I should say, with Michael Brown, he knows brown is a suspect. And so, he backs the cruiser up. And then there's the encounter in the cruiser where the two shots are fired. And then, of course, there's the subsequent encounter in the street where Michael Brown is killed. And the officer has apparently told police authorities that he was trying to pursue Brown after the initial car struggle.
Now, that would seem to be substantiated by the radio calls. The other thing I find interesting about the radio calls is how fast it all went down. It sounds like from the time Officer Wilson first becomes aware that maybe Michael Brown is a suspect, until the end when Michael Brown has been shot and you can hear somebody screaming in the background, about 61 seconds have passed.
So, it's a very, very quick series of encounters that led to the tragic death of Michael Brown.
PAUL: Yes, 61 seconds. One minute is all that is.
CALLAN: Yes.
PAUL: Joey Jackson, when you heard all of this, I want to get your first thoughts on what stood out to you.
JOEY JACKSON, HLN LEGAL ANALYST: Sure, Christi, good morning. Good morning, Joe. And good morning, Paul.
Listen, the reality is that you can look at 61 seconds to look at that last point that Paul was making as a quick point or an eternity. If we stopped this program right now, and we waited a minute, would you see, depending upon which side you're sitting that it's time, it's time to reflect. It's time to think. It's time to make a judgment call. It's time to make a decision.
And so, that in the event that there's an indictment, Christi, you'll see in the courtroom. You'll see that blown up, the 61 seconds, exactly what transpired. But stepping back from there, the critical inquiry is what did Darren Wilson know and when did he know it?
Yes, there's information that there was the release of the radio call regarding the theft. Did he match that at the time, did he know, was he sure, that Michael Brown was indeed of the suspect?
If so, that goes to his state of mind. In addition to that, Christi, the state of mind is very critical here. But in addition to that, that would explain, is he in a heightened sense of alertness? Is he frightened? And then, of course, you have that struggle and the struggle with the first instance, of course, has a lot to do, right, with exactly what occur here.
But, they're separate in time. The police call, that time there that in time has to be separated from what happened outside that car to justify the imminent threat and to justify the shooting and death of Michael Brown.
CALLAN: Christi, I wanted to jump in with one other thing that I think is going to be important with this tape.
PAUL: Go ahead, Paul.
CALLAN: And that is one of the big issues is why didn't this cop call for backup. You know if he called for backup and waited, maybe this tragic death would not have occurred. According to the tape, he did call for backup before even the second encounter with the struggle in the car had occurred. He had asked for backup. But backup didn't arrive there.
There's also a claim that after the car struggle, he tried to radio once again on backup but he was on the wrong radio channel, they think, and so, nobody got his second call, although backup arrived shortly thereafter. But, of course, it's all over by the time the backup cops arrive.
PAUL: Right, right.
JOHNS: And sometimes, it's very hard to sort out what's going on on the police radios.
CALLAN: Yes.
JOHNS: Again and again we hear that issue.
Joey Jackson, Paul Callan, thanks so much for that.
PAUL: Thank you, gentlemen.
CALLAN: Thank you.
JACKSON: Thank you.
PAUL: We're going to get you caught up with five things you need to know for your NEW DAY.
And number one, a Texas teacher has been fired after she sent rationally charged tweets about Ferguson, Missouri. She said she was responding to, quote, "threatening and racist attacks against her."
JOHNS: She submitted her resignation on Thursday but a school district board decided to fire her instead.
Number two, a doctor infected with Ebola is on his way from Sierra Leone and to Nebraska right now. He's expected to arrive at the medical center later this weekend. He's a legal permanent resident of the United States.
Doctors at a Nebraska hospital have successfully treated two Ebola patients. Freelance cameraman Ashoka Mukpo and Dr. Rick Sacra. PAUL: Number three, students at West Virginia University are really
struggling to deal with the death of their friend. Police found 18- year-old Nolan Burch unconscious at a frat house on Wednesday. He died yesterday at a local hospital. And now, the university suspended all activities on campus. Officials aren't giving out details about the incident as they continue to investigate, though, today.
JOHNS: Number four, the man accused of grabbing a Philadelphia woman off the street and holding her for three days could face life in prison. Delvin Barnes appeared in court yesterday. He pleaded not guilty to kidnapping charges. The woman's abduction was caught on video and sparked an intense manhunt by the police and the FBI. They tracked down the victim and Barnes using his car's GPS system.
PAUL: And number five, MTV's Diem Brown lost her battle with cancer. Twitter lit up with this news. The 32-year-old reality star really rose to fame on MTV's "Real World" and "Road Rules Challenge". She was first diagnosed with ovarian cancer eight years ago. She was just 24 years old then. The cancer went in remission in 2006 but returned two years later.
JOHNS: Coming up next, President Obama is throwing down the gauntlet.
PAUL: He's vowing to do it alone on immigration reform. But the GOP says it's ready for battle.
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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: And that's going to happen. That's going to happen before the end of the year.
REP. JOHN BOEHNER (R-OH), SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: We're going to fight the president tooth and nail if he continues down this path.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
JOHNS: General Martin Dempsey is on a surprise visit to Iraq. The head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff arrived unannounced in Baghdad today, as the U.S. prepares to expand its assistance to Iraqi and Kurdish forces battling ISIS.
PAUL: This is General Dempsey's first trip to Iraq since President Obama ordered advisory U.S. troops back to that country.
Now, between his upcoming executive order and the highly debated Keystone pipeline legislation, the president has a few battles on his hands waiting for him when he gets back to Washington.
JOHNS: And here's CNN's Erin McPike with that.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The bill has passed. Without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table.
ERIN MCPIKE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: So much for work together. Confrontation is ahead when President Obama returns from Australia.
On Friday, 31 House Democrats joined more than 200 Republicans in voting yes on a bill that would force the president to open up the Keystone XL Pipeline.
BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: With respect to Keystone, I've been clear in the past, my position hasn't changed. Understand what this product is, it is providing the ability of Canada to pump their oil, send it through our land, down to the Gulf, where it will be sold everywhere else. It doesn't happen in fact on U.S. gas prices.
MCPIKE: There are Senate Democrats who support it, including Mary Landrieu of Louisiana who faces a tough runoff election.
SEN. MARY LANDRIEU (D), LOUISIANA: I call for a vote on keystone pipeline. I said it is time. Now, I've been calling for a vote for over three years as chair of the Energy Committee. I said, the election is over, no more excuses. Let's get our job done.
MCPIKE: They vote Tuesday and if it passes, President Obama may exercise his veto pen.
Next up, immigration reform. The resolute president insisting he'll move ahead with action to stop deportations.
OBAMA: I gave the house over a year to go ahead at least gave a vote to the Senate bill, they failed to do so. And I indicated to Speaker Boehner several months ago, that if in fact Congress failed to act, I would use all the lawful authority that I possess to try to make the system work better.
BOEHNER: We're going to fight the president tooth and nail if he continues down this path.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
MCPIKE: And what's worse is that this particular fight could lead to a government shutdown next month, Christi and Joe.
PAUL: All righty. Erin McPike reporting live from the White House this morning. Erin, good to see you. Thank you.
JOHNS: The city of New Orleans has uncovered reported sex crimes against children that detectives have never investigated.
PAUL: You are never going to be able to get over this. Sometimes even when the heartbreaking evidence was staring them right in the face. We're talking about a 2-year-old here, people. We've got some details about this alarming news report for you, next.
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PAUL: All right.
I just want to give you a full warning of what we have to talk about here in case there are little ones in the room because is this so disturbing. We're talking more than 1,000 horrific violent sex crimes involving men, women, children and even infants that may have been flat out ignored by the New Orleans Police Department.
JOHNS: According to an alarming new report released by the city's office of inspector general, of 1,290 sex crime-related calls assigned to the special victims unit, only 179 instances or about 14 percent show any evidence of being investigated. And of those, just 74 were prosecuted.
PAUL: So, we have got to talk with CNN legal analyst Paul Callan and HLN legal analyst Joey Jackson about this.
Joey, to you first.
So, the city of New Orleans, some people may say, not particularly a stranger to misconduct necessarily. But still, how can something like this be happening?
JACKSON: You know, Christi, it's very troubling and disturbing to say the least. And so, you have to analyze and examine exactly what it did happen. Is it incompetence? Is it negligence? Is it laziness?
Because then it goes to larger issues such as the discipline that the officers who were involved, the detectives involved might face? And then a step further, Christi, could it relate and otherwise relate to criminality? Is it official misconduct? Were they filing police report, and that type of thing?
And so, you have to wonder, where was the supervisor? Where was the oversight? Where was the supervision, and how exactly could this occur when you have people who are making these allegations.
And finally, Christi, we should know, this is a victims' bill of rights here. As a victim, victims' bill of rights where there are throughout states, and there is one in Louisiana, victims have a right to consult with the prosecutor to follow up on their case, to be notified as to proceedings in what's going on, and to the extent that didn't happen, there was certainly a lapse that needs to be looked into.
JOHNS: So, Paul, the New Orleans inspector general said the five officers are not rookies. So, this isn't necessarily a question of being incompetent. Is there more to this than just negligence or someone not knowing better or what?
CALLAN: Well, you know, the allegations are so shocking on the face of it that you would think there's bribery, there must be bribery or corruption or something going on here? Why would these detectives who are assigned to handle sex crimes, just willfully ignore the complaints, hundreds, maybe thousands of complaints by women who have been raped and sexually abused and just walk away from the cases.
I'm not finding an answer in the report except that they weren't doing their job, number one, and it just sounds like they have this sort of attitude that -- you know, if the woman was drinking and there was a sexual encounter then it doesn't go on their list of a crime.
We're going to have to look into it more deeply to see if it, as Joey said, amounts to criminal conduct by the detectives because it's very, very hard to prosecute a police detective for negligence in investigating a crime. Obviously, that's the difficulty they confront.
PAUL: Right. I again want to forewarn people, because this next piece of information is really --
JOHNS: Disturbing.
PAUL: Really tough. According to the documents, there was a 2-year- old, a 2-year-old brought to a hospital emergency room after an alleged sexual assault. Tests showed that toddler had a sexually transmitted disease, but the detective allegedly said it did not warrant a criminal investigation and closed the case.
Joey, will that cop be fired or prosecuted? It's a big question I think people want to know.
JACKSON: I think it's a huge question. What you look at in these instances is certainly police have an obligation to pursue justice wherever that might lead, and to work with the district attorney to find out exactly what did occur.
And so, again, these parallel universes that I think investigators track, Christi, one relates to departmentally. Their rules, their policies, their procedures that govern how you handle cases, who you speak to with cases, how you examine and document those cases. Were they followed, were they not?
And, of course, in the event they look at the departmentally, certainly, Christi, the officer could and should be fired. Then you look at the other track and I'm speaking to, and that's the criminality track. What was the motivating force behind this? Why would a detective, when you have something as compelling and powerful as what you just mentioned with a child, why would you walk away from that? What could it be?
I mean, is it negligence? Is it incompetence? Is it laziness? Or is it more sinister, is there something else to say, hey, look, you know what, I'm going to give you, X, walk away from this. I don't know.
JOHNS: It seems like we keep talking about the New Orleans Police Department.
Anyway, Paul Callan and Joey Jackson, thanks so much.
PAUL: Thank you, gentlemen.
CALLAN: Thank you.
JACKSON: Thank you, Joe. Thanks, Christi.
PAUL: So, what was it like to break into Osama bin Laden's secret compound and kill the most wanted man in the world?
JOHNS: You're going to hear the harrowing details from the ex-Navy SEAL Robert O'Neill who sat with CNN for his most extensive live television interview today.
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JOHNS: In his most extensive live television interview to date, former Navy SEAL Robert O'Neill sat down with CNN's Jake Tapper to discuss the raid that killed the most wanted man in the world.
PAUL: Yes. O'Neill even described the bizarre moment standing next to the al Qaeda leader's body while watching President Obama break news to the world about his SEAL team had done.
Here is part of that interview.
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JAKE TAPPER, CNN ANCHOR: Before you walked into that room on the third floor where you thought Bin Laden was, what went through your head?
ROBERT O'NEILL, FORMER NAVY SEAL: Well, there were two of us left on the stairs going up. We knew we had to go up there because they were doing something, we assumed rigging explosives, vests to blow themselves up. So, when we went up, my thought wasn't of, we're about to shoot this guy and be heroes.
My thought was, we're going to blow up, let's get it over with. And we went up there to do that, but with the thought that, you know, we will die if he blows up, but he will die, too, and that is worth it.
He was not surrendering. He was sort of moving, and just based on the level of threat of him not surrendering and the likelihood of him having a vest, I engaged him, I shot him twice in the head. He fell on the floor. I shot him one more time and I killed him.
The sense was recognition of, first of all, an ID of him and he is a threat. And then I had to shoot him. And it wasn't the first time I had done that on a target before.
I recognized the individual we were after, which was Osama Bin Laden, and I engaged.
At that minute it was just -- it felt like that was the first -- the initial threat that I had to take care of and then there were more threats. Threats are just potential unknowns, it wasn't until the room was fully cleared and there were more SEALs that it hit me and felt like I had a moment of pause.
I talked to a friend of mine who was in the room and he came up to me, and he put his hand on my shoulder, and I said, hey, what do we do now? He kind of smiled and he goes, now we go find the computers. I said, OK, I'm back. I'm back. That was quite a thing that just happened. TAPPER: Once you got the computers and Bin Laden's body on to the helicopter and you took off, what happened then?
O'NEILL: Then we took him up to Bagram, and they were just going to do more tests on him to confirm.
The president wanted to know, you know, everything that had gone on, the numbers -- they wanted to have the numbers right before it was reported and be 100 percent certain. And then once it was, we were standing there watching a flat-screen TV, watching the president address the nation and the world.
TAPPER: So, you were next to Bin Laden's body watching Obama talk about it?
O'NEILL: A number of feet away from him, yes. Well, I heard him say -- I had a breakfast sandwich in my hand and I heard him say, tonight, I can report to the country -- to the United States and to the world that the United States conducted a mission that killed Osama Bin Laden. I heard him say "Osama Bin Laden," and I looked at Osama Bin Laden and I thought, how in the world did I get here from Butte, Montana?
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PAUL: You can see that full interview, by the way, with Robert O'Neill and Jake Tapper on CNN.com/TheLead.
And we have a whole lot more coming up for you this morning.
JOHNS: Absolutely.
The next hour of your NEW DAY starts right now.
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